Three Moments Crystallizing Disconcerting Questions For Rest Of The Season
Once again let's remind everyone here what were the pre-season expectations around the UCLA football program before coming into this season. Basically a consensus had emerged during off season pegging this year's football team somewhere around a 5-7 win squad:
- Adam Maya from the OC Register predicted UCLA's "best/worst-case scenario" ranged from"5-7 to 7-5." He concluded UCLA will finish "finish .500 (6-6) and earn a bowl bid."
- Ted Miller of WWL thought UCLA could be the "surprise" team of the Pac. However, he was also being realistic listing UCLA as the 7th best team in the conference. Miller also went on to project a 6-6 regular season.
- Lindy's had UCLA ranked No. 48 nationally and No. 6 in the Pac-10. Athlon has the Bruins No. 51 overall and No. 6 in the Pac-10.
The pre-season projections pointed towards a consensus expectation of a 6-7 win regular season. Of course there were few over here and around the internets who were drinking their typical off season kool-aid hoping for an 8 win season, but we called that out as basically delusional.
So going into this season it's clear at least among the frontpagers here on BN, we didn't have unreasonable expectations around this year's football team. Time and time I compared this season to what we were going to experience in Coach Howland's second year at UCLA. A team with an extremely young nuclear which would experience a roller coaster year, but get better through the season, and sneak into a bowl game (equivalent of getting into the first round of NCAA basketball tournament). What I was expecting from the coaches was to feature a team that would play its heart out, give its young players opportunity to grow through game experiences, and get better from the game to game.
Obviously, I am going to wait till the end of the season to to take into account all the stats. I still think if the coaches can get this team into a bowl game and finish with 6-7 win season, they will able to have this team positioned to move towards the right direction. However, that said from what I saw yesterday, I am still left with a very bad taste in my mouth in terms of how the coaches are managing the team. We can go over statistical analysis of cost and benefits of going with the safe/high percentage play calls all we want, we can go over how Prince makes a the right reads more often than Brehaut in Chow's scheme. That still doesn't erase certain moments from yesterday's game that has left me concerned for rest of ther season. There were three specific moments from yesterday afternoon that have been replaying in mind in a painful loop all day long today.
Here are the three moments that really crystallized to me what has gone wrong since the Tennessee game:
- Moment Number 1: Inability to punch in from the goal line after we had a first and goal at the 1. I am not going to discuss this one because it has been hashed out to death over last 24 hours. If we had scored a TD in that series it would have been a different ball game. Period. I am still disgusted over it and can't get it out of my head.
- Moment Number 2: Total lack of killer instinct. Everyone remembers the impotent sequence at the goal line from first half. However, there was another opportunity for UCLA to go for the throat and really get a hammer lock on the momentum during first half. It came towards the end of the Q2. Bruin defense had just throttled the Oregon offense and forced a punt. And after a 13 yard shank we got the ball on our 41. So Damien Thigpen blurted outside for a 9 yard gain setting up and 2nd and 1 at the 50 with about 2:00 mins to go in the same. That would have been the perfect opportunity to call for something creative. Perhaps a misdirection. Perhaps a Prince Roll out looking for the TE (Presley?) or looking for Rosario 15-20 yards deep? Nope. We just handed it over to Thigpen in what looked like a vanilla running play for a 4 yard loss. The next play Prince couldn't connect on 3rd and 5 and momentum was stalled. It was emblemtic of an offense that had zero killer instinct and certainly not reflective of the reputation of aggressive/dynamic offense that I thought we were going to get from Neuehisel and Chow. Moreover, there was absolutely no sense of urgency from an offense that seemed content go into the locker room with an anemic 3-0 lead. Just thinking back to that series has been bugging me the whole day.
- Moment Number 3: Lack of leadership from upperclassmen on offense. During Howland's second year at UCLA, one player who provided with clear leadership was DT (non band wagoners should know who he is). DT really took freshmen core of AA/JF/JS under his wing during the second half of that season during which the Ben Ball warriors were able to make a charge for the NCAA tourney. Arguably on the defensive side of the ball in this year's football team we are getting it from ATV, Carter and Brian Prince (even though he is a not a senior). Right now there is NO ONE on our offensive side of the ball who can provide that leadership. Terrence Austin has been disappointing (he is a great kid off the field I am sure but he is not getting it done on the field). We have also not gotten the requisite leadership from Logan Paulsen. The moment that really crystallized it for me was when he made a dumb freshman mistake on 2nd and 3 at the UCLA 29 in the middle of third quarter, when the UCLA offense desperately needed a drive after falling behind 3-21. The mistake Paulsen was dumb and inexcusable for a senior. That's the kind of situation when a player like Paulsen should be taking charge, making it easier for his freshman QB, rather than mucking it up.
I can't get those three moments out of my head right now because I think putting them together they point to some bigger issues with this football team. Right now I am not sensing we have a team that is getting better game by game and it is bothering me ... a lot. I have seen enough football over the years to know inside that something is not clicking.
I am also wondering this Sunday what would have happened if coaches actually game Richard Brehaut actual game reps during Kansas State and Stanford. I understand and respect the arguments others are making about Brehaut having ways to go in terms of reading defenses and picking up blitzes. However, at the same time I strongly believe the best way for a kid to learn is actually playing the freaking game. What Brehaut showed me yesterday wasn't any different than what we saw from Cade McNown when he got going as a true freshman. Cade made his share of stupid mistakes (often game costing one), but it was clear his team was growing with him.
It's not just Richard Brehaut either. Rick Neuheisel is at a point of rebuilding process at UCLA when he needs to keep his young talent motivated with a sense of urgency. They are not going to get that sense of urgency when they see upperclassmen coming up short time after time. If Paulsen is going to make stupid freshman mistakes is a senior, if Austin and Embree are going to run vanilla routes and not get separation from defenders (second and third string defenders at that), and if the starting QB is not getting it done or ready to execute the game plan, then Neuheisel needs to play the young talents at UCLA. That is what Coach Howland did with his basketball program duing his second year at UCLA which helped him to establish the foundation of future success in the following years in Westwood.
Again I write all this with the context that I never had unreasonable expectations heading into this football season. I have been burned enough and have gotten my heart ripped out enough to know disappointment is just part of UCLA football. I still think Neuheisel with his recruiting prowess with get UCLA at a place which I will be very happy with. At the same time given what I have seen last two weeks, I have real questions about whether this team - this year is on its way to a 6-7 win season. Questions that I have right now:
- Have the mindset and character of our team changed from the boring/vanilla - playing not to lose/Dorrellian mindset from previous seasons?
- Are the coaches putting the best talent on the field with scheme putting them in best position to succeed?
- Is our team getting better week by week?
Right now I am not sure of the answers and that feeling is bothering me ... A LOT.
There will be no shortage for support for CRN here on BN. We believe in the big picture vision he has for UCLA football. It's pretty clear to us we are on the same frequency when it comes to what his ultimate goals are for UCLA football. However, that doesn't mean I am not going to think out loud about these questions. Obviously I will be rooting for Rick Neuheisel, his coaches and our players to provide us definitive positive answers by the end of the season.
GO BRUINS.
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my thoughts EXACTLY!
great job distilling what many of us here are also wrestling with after seeing this last loss…CRN seems to have the edge needed to bring UCLA back…i question the OLD PRO CHOW…maybe his time has come and gone and CRN just can’t see it…maybe he is way too impressed with CNC to see how bad our offense really is under this past genius…it is so frustrating to watch other college teams move the ball so easily down the field, when we can’t even get one yard at the end zone…i am still shaking my head over the sequence in the second quarter…
by bruincheerleader on Oct 11, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I have faith in Chow
I am not reaching any conclusions on him at all. I am going to wait to see the offensive numbers at the end of this season and half way point next year to see where are on offense. Someone like Chow deserves that benefit of the doubt.
However, that said the play calling has been bugging me. And just thinking out loud at this point because that’s about all I can do.
by Nestor on Oct 11, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't throw Chow under the bus, nor Prince
Playcalling will never look perfect until the qb knows what’s going on with the defense, and until receivers are able to run routes. I don’t know who is to blame for the latter — lousy senior talent, freshman youth, or coaching — but the former is understandable with freshmen QBs.
I absolutely don’t agree with the consecutive QB sneaks and would’ve preferred a handoff or a rollout to at least one of them, but on the other hand, any failed play there would’ve been severely questioned. I’ve seen a TON of goalline stands the last two weeks all over football, from all kinds of teams. It’s not enough evidence to go nuts over, IMO. Coleman should’ve scored on second down, and didn’t finish. Franklin if healthy and in there would’ve scored on that play. Knox would’ve as well, IMO.
Also, I don’t agree with a quick-hook policy with a freshman QB. If Prince is the guy for now, he shouldn’t be threatened with the bench every time he screws up. He is, after all, a freshman. I have to agree with Chow on that one. I advocated vehemently for Brehaut to play over Craft the last two weeks — because Craft is a hopeless senior — but it’s a different story when playing over a fellow freshman whom the coaches have deemed the better player for now. For all the zip, Brehaut didn’t score any points, and I think we would’ve had a better chance to score on that red-zone possession with Prince. You can’t preach patience with one freshman but not another, especially when we don’t know yet who has the best potential.
I’m more concerned with the personnel at the other, more easily substituted positions, where experience is winning out over talent.
by bluebland on Oct 11, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I was hoping for:
“I absolutely don’t agree with the consecutive QB sneaks and would’ve preferred a handoff or a rollout to at least one of them…”
5-wide, wildcat motion-option with Thigpen and/or Franklin. Spread the defense . . . how could we NOT get one lousy yard?
Next time, Norm, next time!
Seriously, though, I totally agree with Nestor’s point. And regarding the QB situation, remember Prince’s history and Craft’s limitations when considering a floundering offense. Really, I think things have gone no worse than “as expected,” as frustrating as it is.
by palafox on Oct 11, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wildcat
Last year we tried the Wildcat a few times with Coleman on the backfield. Didn’t remember us getting a lot of yardage.
Vs Stanford they tried a Wildcat with Ramirez, and we got flagged for a penalty.
I don’t think installing “exotic” offenses and formations is the right way to go given how the offense struggles executing basic plays.
by drebruin on Oct 11, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember watching a goal line play last year
I think it was against the poor WSU. We lined up Brian Price at fullback, and he just bulldozed a hole for Coleman. I wonder if we ever ran that again.
by drebruin on Oct 11, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chow is known for...
… developing O-Lines and QB’s and basing offenses around them. Given how lacking we were at those spots when Neuheisel came in, I think it’s too soon to expect them to play at a high level. The OL is young but already improved, and between Prince and Brehaut it’s not hard to see one becoming at least a good QB. Chow really hasn’t succeeded in the past without those two pieces.
The main reason he was able to turn things around quite so quickly at USC was Carson Palmer. Kevin Craft =/= Carson Palmer
by SuperBruinMan on Oct 11, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have waited til I calmed down
and read all the posts. (some of them truly outstanding) before attempting any rational comment on what I saw. I, too, was greatly upset by the very things Nestor has commented upon, but I have a slightly different read. I don’t question Chow at all. It is impossible to believe that he has somehow forgotten how to be an offensive coordinator, so that can’t be it. I do believe that KP was not ready to play, just not sharp. Forgive me, but we would have been better off with Craft. Brehaut is a natural thrower. That much is clear. As for those who have concluded that Chow is holding back some brilliant plays or that Neuheisel has some hidden gems on the bench who might come forth to save us, let me say that I doubt it. Nevertheless, we should probably be trying something new — on punt and kickoff returns, without a doubt. In the running game, Ramirez should get more carries. But here’s the thing: what play is there in anyone’s playbook that doesn’t require EXECUTION? Forgive the shouting, but really. Why can’t Division I scholarship athletes run a pass route or get their pads low enough to create a push, a seam, something positive, on a consistent basis? Why can’t a QB who has thrown countless passes throw a catchable ball that gets to the right place at the right time more than half the time? Why can’t we handle a blitz better when the situation is an obvious one and we’re mid-season? Well, I’ve vented, but I really think maybe we need fewer plays rather than more. We just need to execute them correctly. I believe this is a six-win team, always have, but it’s the lack of development that bothers me. We did do well in some departments some of the time, and I do support the coaches and the team. I just know we can do better and it’s time to do it. You know, a couple of weeks ago I was looking forward to Cal, thinking that we could control their running game because their passing was so inefficient. Little did I think that those words would describe us so perfectly. Maybe I expect too much, but I do think we need a sense, not of panic, which destroys, but of urgency. Time for re-organization and rededication, and we have to do it on the fly. See you at the Rose Bowl.
by ReineSeite on Oct 11, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Coaching Execution
It’s the lack of good coaching.
by Keptycho on Oct 11, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Sigh*...I feel your pain
Very, very keen observations N.
I can live with newbies making mistakes but for a SR such as Paulsen to make his when he is a Captain, NO excuse at all for that. Didn’t call him out in my post but I remember……
This is what I don’t get. CRN is one of the sharper tools in the box, he knows that he has time. Any knowledgeable person following the program knows that this is a work in progress and that it will take time. Time to clean up the prior regime’s mishaps and time to rebuild a once proud program. I get the fact that we are in the “No Mans Land” with our younger players having the talent to make plays yet lack the experience to do so while we have experienced D-1 players that are quite not the playmakers we need to get to where we want to be.
BUT….if CRN is as smart as I think he is AND if he believes our fanbase is as smart/logical as I believe we are, then he must understand that he has our support but DO NOT give us the same crap that KD gave us during his tenure. That series right before halftime is a PERFECT example. You get 9 yds on 1st down, go for the JUGGULAR. If we fail, we have 3rd and short. If we can’t pick up a yard (yes, I know we couldn’t punch it in at the GL), we don’t deserve to win.
I’m still pissed and my thoughts probably aren’t coherent so I may be ranting a bit.
If CRN is going to return UCLA into a program of national significance, then he needs to get with it. IF our future lies with the younger players, then go with them. Let them make their errors this year so that they have experience under their belt and are ready to make the jump next season. I don’t know a single person that has not become a better person without making their fair share of mistakes.
Without risk, there is no reward. All I see at this point is a gun-shy team playing not to lose as opposed to stepping on the field to take what they believe is theirs. CRN talks about getting to the level of suc, it’s going to be a loooong time before we get there. SHOW US how bad you want to win. We’ll take our lumps but don’t leave bullets in the chamber. Fire those suckers!
GO BRUINS!
by BlueReign on Oct 11, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unreal Expectations Season 2
How quickly people forget that we were estactic to end up with CRN as our head coach. And Chow as OC. Yet thers’s so much vile hatred after this game it sound like were ready for a new head coach. You gotta give CRN’s program 3-4 years before passing harsh judgement. If Dorrell was still in charge what would our record be and what would our future look like? Coaches don’t win games consistenly, talent does. And we need more talent. We’re in a REBUILDING phase (hello) and need another year or two of CRN recruting before we will have the necessary horses to play big time college ball. Take a chill pill and enjoy the process.
by 77bruin on Oct 11, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of the consternation here
stems from what you said: talent wins games. In our case, it’s pretty clear that the talent on this team is in the underclassmen. So there’s a line of thought that says throw the young kids in there and let them learn and gain experience. However, there are others that believe that that’s not necessarily the best way to win games this season and so there seems to be a conflict of interest not only among the fanbase but also internally as individuals who both want to see the young guys develop and win games at the same time have to deal with the possibility that these goals may be mutually exclusive.
by Tydides on Oct 11, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big time college ball?
No one expects that out of this team this year. What is expected is for our offense not be as bad as it has been. To score more than 3 points on offense. To get in the endzone with four tries inside the 2. What high expectations we all have! Why do I have to wait 3-4 years to expect those things? Are we really that bad?
by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 9:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes
We are that bad. Average out all of our ESPN Scouting measures and we’re somewhere around a C. Oregon’s defense was somewhere around a A-. IRT Goal line, come on, what would you have wanted, a jump pass? A sneak is basically about the most complex that we can physically get within the 1 yard line right now.
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by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is getting frustrating...
I did not expect a jump pass. I even liked the quarterback sneak. I just expect a college football team to be able to successfully get in the endzone by doing it. Especially with 4 downs inside the 2. You really think that this team can’t do that? I’m sure they can, they just didn’t. Which is why I’m upset.
by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 9:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Actually you probably do have to wait 3-4 years for that
At least if you want to see it with any consistency. That’s why many of us wanted KD gone when we saw the combination of bad recruiting/not addressing our needs and not developing what we did have. That’s a recipe for disaster, and the overall level of the program was probably about as bad as its ever been last year. The logical side of me says that there’s just not a lot there coming off of the worst season we’ve had in recent memory coupled with the fact that a lot of the future of this team is still on the scout team or are playing their first few collegiate games against bigger, stronger, more experienced opponents.
by Tydides on Oct 11, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
the talent is absolutely way down, no one seems to understand that though
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's funny
That everyone has been just smashing the heck out of the offense when we all
knew the offense was WAY below average in terms of developed talent. And then everyone goes and asks for QBs with little to no experience go out and beat the best defense in the PAC 10. And then you ask for them to be the aggressor in a game where they were mentally dominated in a matter of 2 minutes… I’m sorry but I don’t understand the logic
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
You don't understand that logic
Because it is another strawman argument you seem so fond of using.
The offense deserves criticism for failing at the goal line and failing to score a touchdown. That’s why people are upset. Not because we lost to a team we expected to lose to.
by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 9:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
ooh
another strawman insult. I don’t believe you get what I’m saying.
We just got beat, plain and simple. Is it possible.. wait no, i’m being ridiculous right? It’s something straight out of wizard of oz to say that we got out muscled right?
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not an insult
It’s a matter of fact. You claim that most expected to win. That’s not true. So why bother bringing it up and basing an argument off of it? It’s just a poor way to make your case and encourages people to not take you seriously.
by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 10:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Alright
I apologize if I seem to aim for the biggest target. But the GENERAL feel around BN right now is what I have stated in the past…we just got beat. And the fact that we didn’t score inside of the 1 is something alarming, and I agree with you. But in a situation where we just got flat out beat, there seems to be a misleading moniker that it was up to play calling to halt that. I understand that you’re upset, and so is everyone, but there has to be a “half full” take on it
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by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we've reached common ground
I definitely don’t think play calling could have taken us to victory and I definitely see reasons to be optimistic about the future. It’s just there are points in a game where you should expect to score and a first down at the 2 is one of them.
And since this team is unable to compete offensively given the current talent, it would be nice to see Brehaut get some meaningful snaps as it would not be tantamount to giving up on the season. If our offense struggles, it can only struggle at a small degree less than it is now. But it will help prepare the team to be as good as it can be in the 3-4 year period it takes to establish a competitive (possibly elite?) program.
by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey why don't you guys
and take this fight – to the PODCAST! Not that you guys haven’t already been doing a FANTASTIC job, but I think some controversy and views from both sides of this argument would make for a very lively broadcast. I also believe that I noticed some differences in opinion between Josh and Ryan. Lets have a heated yet cordial debate concerning the issues concerning this team.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
by bruin8uclap on Oct 11, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're meeting today
Our usual walkthrough is today, we’ll see if there was something to debate about because we’ve been looking for it to avoid too much of a commonality. I know we’ve been agreeing on the Brehaut issue, but then again, some things have changed.
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 12, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to hear it!
Should be a lot of fun!
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
by bruin8uclap on Oct 12, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Hope to see your name on the audience “list”, see ya then
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by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 12, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will try my best
Its kind of hard for me to make it at that time but I shall do my darndest.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
by bruin8uclap on Oct 13, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Sinking Feeling
I agree with most of what you say Nestor. I am right with you on questioning the coaching. There has to be some kind of disconnect in the coaching that we are not privy to. Either CRN AND CNC are not on the same page or neither one of them have a clue on how to bring the Offense to life. I do not buy the argument that they are all so young and that’s why they make so many mistakes. The coaches knew that going in. It is their responsibility to prepare them to perform up to their capability taking into account their experience and everything else about their capabilities. Now, for the third week in a row, it’s pressure cooker time. All the coaches and players are going to feel the heat to work a miracle. Yeah, they will be pumped in practice and CRN will come up with the usual B.S. but come game time they will be under the gun to execute their plays; something they haven’t done consistently. CAL is still one of the best teams in the PAC 10 and they are well coached. My suggestion to the Offense is to learn to execute a few plays very, very well and just run them over and over during the game. Maybe we can keep it respectable.
by Keptycho on Oct 11, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing the new guys
I don’t think CRN is afraid of starting young guys. Just look at our OL. The question is why he isn’t playing more of them. I appreciate your comparisons, Nestor, to those first Howland seasons where JF, AA and JS logged in huge minutes as freshmen and sophomores. If this year was supposed to be a rebuilding year anyway, then why not show us a glimpse of the future. Especially if the upperclassmen haven’t stepped up. I would like to see Thigpen return kicks. He may muff a few, but his speed is undeniable and his presence on the field is electric. He’s just exciting to watch. Brehaut would have benefited from a year with the scout team, but since his redshirt has been burned already, just put him on the field. Much has already been said about the QB sneak calls at the 1. Forget the QB rollouts or the runs to the outside. Go smash mouth, hand it off to our 247lb FB and punch it in. Goodness, just hand it off to our FB in any short yardage situation.
Nestor, I do share your frustrations. I wasn’t expecting much wins this year, but I was expecting to FEEL different about this team. Your 3 crystallizing moments are what I would have expected from this team during the KD era, not the CRN era with Chow and and a host of NFL-caliber coaches running our offense. I will be patient and expect to see progress. It’s just hard to stay positive when I watch teams like Georgia Tech break into a major bowl game and beat their rival during Paul Johnson’s 1st year at the helm. This year, they got off to a rocky start but should be looking good to close off the season strong. Their fans know their team is heading in the right direction and feel it at each game.
I thought that moment for me came against Tennessee. But now, I wait patiently again to find that moment when we have in fact “turned the corner”.
by Kerckhoff405 on Oct 11, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd say we didn't exactly look like world beaters against Tennessee
Or in any other game for that matter really. We only got extra credit for it because Neyland is an awfully tough place to play, but objectively, the Oregon game is about par for the course if you looked at how we’ve played to date.
by Tydides on Oct 11, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fact ...
Our offense is 114 out of 120 and yet we got as many offensive points against Oregon as Cal did.
Erase 26 seconds of the second half and it was a tied game. Maybe the Ducks should be more
nervous and the Bruins more happy?
I have gone back and forth on the quality of the coaching – some signs look bad others look very good.
The coaches have made some mistakes with play calling and game management, but they’ve also
kept our team competing till the end in these last two games.
by JonnyG on Oct 12, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Observations, Nestor
Kind of along the same lines I was thinking. I have to admit that I, too, was really disappointed with Paulsen’s seemingly inability to be a real leader on the offensive side of the ball and I hope he can make up for it in upcoming games.
I also wonder sometimes, too, IF Prince had not been injured on that broken play at Tennessee maybe, MAYBE he would have led us to a very convincing win over K-State which would have given us a huge shot of confidence going into the bye week and subsequently going up to Stanford as well. I don’t know. This team (to me anyway) does not seem to exude a lot of confidence right now and when the dam broke after the 2nd half kickoff against Oregon I think some even more bad stuff got into their heads. Just my 2 cents worth.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Oct 12, 2009 4:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kick the ball out of bounds
The kick-off team has some issues and should consider kicking the ball out of bounds. Putting the ball at the 35 is better than giving up 6 pts.
elsobrantebruin
by elsobrantebruin on Oct 12, 2009 5:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kick off team does have issues
But it has been hidden because we have been kicking the ball out of the end zone or really deep in the end zone.
Need to fix the kick off team, not start kicking out of bounds.
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Oct 12, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong to say we have bad talent
To explain our poor play. That let’s the coaches off the hook too easily.
These are experienced, outstanding coaches, so they should not only be able to take the criticism, they should welcome it and not hide behind a claim of bad talent. I don’t see them doing that, but the fans that are saying our talent is so bad are doing it IMO.
When I criticize the coaches, I am not being unrealistic. I am not saying we should be unbeaten or even have beaten Oregon, though I think we could have WITH BETTER COACHING. For sure, we should have scored from the one yard line with better play calling. For sure we score another touchdown if we have a better red zone offense in the second half.
As for the red zone, all I’m asking is that we run the ball more in four down territory. On the other hand, I agree with those who say between the 20s our offense has been too vanilla. Again, this doesn’t mean we will win every game, but I think our offense would be better.
Another point. When we get behind, teams like Oregon and Stanford have been loading up on blitzes. But I have not seen our play calling adjusting to that by taking advantage of the rush with sweeps or screens. Maybe I’ve missed something. Maybe my recollection is wrong, but all I see when we’re behind is zero backfield lineups and simple drop backs by our QBs. If I’m right, isn’t that coaching?
With Oregon every play started with a handoff or fake to the running back. You never knew whether they were going to run or pass. Seems to me we pretty much know what our offense is going to do on almost every play. Is that talent or coaching? Mmmmm.
The main reason we lost to Oregon were the two turnovers by the QB in quick succession. Not the only reason, but huge factors. Who called that low reward, high risk flat pass that makes me cringe every time we throw it? Who trained Prince to carry the ball outside his body and whirl and stumble around when he is fighting for yardage? We can say Prince has no talent, which is a lie, or say the coaches need to do a better job of play calling and teaching the fundamentals. I say it’s on the coaches, period.
Our players are still making tiny, drive killing penalties at the worst time. Again, do we blame them or the coaches? Game 5 into the season, they should not be making these penalties. If they are, is it them or is it the coaches?
IT’S THE COACHES PEOPLE, WHO I SUPPORT COMPLETELY. BUT THEY ARE THE ONES TO HOLD RESPONSIBLE.
STOP THROWING OUR PLAYERS UNDER THE BUS, PLEASE, BY SAYING THEY HAVE NO TALENT.
And let’s not give up on the season. Really. I hope and expect to win the majority of our remaining games. If we don’t, I will blame the coaches.
by uclahy on Oct 12, 2009 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Aberration
Everything has been said ad nauseam in detail that I don’t care to get into. But here are my simpler observations and like I mention they have already been said.
The 3rd quarter was an aberration. We will not probably see this happen again in our live times. I don’t think any other coaching staff would have adjusted any better than CRN and Co. That fact that it has generated so much buzz is a testament to its extraordinary occurrence.
Somebody said this week, and my apologies to the author for my atrocious memory:“play calling is overrated.” I agree. I think the success of plays balance out and I say this without any data. I just believe things tend to regress to the mean and the more important aspect of play calling is the execution of the play.
The QB “sneek”, the one play call I will question, and not because it was a bad play per se but because we did not have proper personnel to execute it. To expect a kid recovering from a broken face smash-mouth his way to the endzone is just plain stupid.
Prince was not ready and it was obvious from the start. KC should have “managed” the game. How it was not obvious to the coaching staff is beyond me.
I am not going to get into the Breahut-Prince debate, but I’m not going to deny what I say on the field. Holy fucking cow, that dude is awesome. Why he’s not playing I will leave to the coaches. Something there that we are not privy to is holding up Breahut. I don’t think it is the misreads, for you need game time experience to really resolve those issues-nothing like getting pancaked to reinforce your learning, and alternatively, nothing like a completion or correct read to reinforce it also.
Now if you noticed all the things I said, or repeated for that matter, the responsibility falls squarely on the coaches feet. It is too soon to abandon any player or even adjust our season expectation. Let’s move on from this aberration and provide our unyielding support to our team-and I mean every player-who are probably just as bomb shelled as we are, if not worse
(Not implying that anybody here is not supporting our players, just calling a round up and as N. mentioned before, let’s “cowboy up”)
P.S. Norrie sucks and the Angels kicked ass!
by brewnz on Oct 12, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks that way to me, too...
Maybe it’s the injuries, etc., but this team does not look like it is improving over the course of the season. Tackling is still terrible, and the offense is still completely ineffective – especially the passing game. Sigh.
by Fludrick on Oct 12, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about preseason predictions
I don’t care about matchups and all that nonsense. What it boils down to is that in both the Stanford and Oregon games victory was WELL within grasp and we just didn’t do it. I am not going to delve into why and all that. What it boils down to is that we were perfectly capable of the proper level of execution. See the whole first half at Oregon, and the second half at Stanford. I do not view these as aberrations. The third quarter of the Oregon game was not an indicator of how good we are, it is an example of how young and unfocused we are. We just need to keep out heads on for a whole game. Its just painful to see so much potential and then have a few huge mistakes cost us the game.
I do not think it is unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination to have watched the Stanford or Oregon games and thought we should have won those games and be 5-0 right now (less so the Stanford game, but I still think if we had just one more thing go our way, like Aaron Hester be in there instead of Sheldon Price, we win that game and the Oregon game). I am tired of that view being called delusional. To go into a game and demand it from the start is delusional. To have witnessed the level of play the team is capable of on the field in that particular game and think we can win it is not delusional.
I look back and see a team that should be 5-0 right now, or at least 4-1. Do I expect us to go undefeated all season? No. Did I expect us to start 3-0? No. If I see us fight and be in position to win a game and blow it will I be pissed? Yes, no matter who it was we were facing.
by sponkey21 on Oct 12, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
funny
Its funny how quickly you abandon players such as Austin and Paulsen. First of all an offence depends on all 11 players and with one such as the quarter back or any member of the line not preforming up to par every snap it wont work. you could have the best receiving core in the countries and u wont get anything done without all 11 players doing their job. Also logan paulsen has great leadership qualities and one of the best work ethics i have ever seen, if everyone on that team was as dedicated and focused as he was maybe this game and Standford would have been different. Are you so blind that you dont see Paulsen yelling at the offence, talking to the coaches, and encouraging his freshman quarterback after he fumbled and threw an interception? probably not seeing as how you abandon him after making a whooping 5 yard penalty on a 3rd down… UCLA had over 60 offensive plays and Paulsen was in there for everyone running his routs hard and blocking even harder…. how bout u watch whats goin on off the field as well as whats going on on the filed
by hunter818 on Oct 14, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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