The Wheels Are Not Falling Off the Bus
Bumped. Despite the reflections from this past weekend I agree with everything 66 laid out below. GO BRUINS. -N
In fact, when this crew took over the bus it was abandoned, at the side of the road, and had no wheels on it.
I think it is healthy to question authority. I grew up wearing a button that said so.
So, I appreciate the constructive dialogue about the coaching staff though I disagree with much that has been said. In the context of what we have and where we are, I think the coaches are doing a good job of using the talent on this team.
What I don't think is fair are the unsubstantiated attacks, particularly on CNC, that he is "too old" (Uh, maybe that one hits a bit close to home for me) or that his prime has past.
Now, two days after a disappointing loss, I think it is time, once more, to reinforce many of the posts of the weekend by reminding all of us, including me, where we were just a few years ago.
Our program was a complete disaster -- abandoned by the side of the road, no wheels on the bus, no replacement parts in the garage, and no mechanics qualified to fix it.
CTS and his crew destroyed this program. We had no offensive scheme for our players to learn. We recruited poorly and foolishly did not make sure we were bringing in players to fill all of our needs. The so called "skill players" found themselves without those who make them look skilled.
In came the new crew, CRN and CNC -- both of whom had very successful records and, as coaches, solid reputations. (As one who explored the "charges" against CRN, I will not concede that he had stains on his record.)
At the time, they were jumping in to rescue a program that was in disaster. It takes courage and commitment to do so.
They could have gone to fully functioning programs that gave them the resources to succeed from the get go -- sort of like buying a fully functioning well maintained bus. Doing so would have obviated the need to do all the hard work that makes rescue projects so much more than maintenance or improvement projects.
Rescue projects are tough. Rescue projects take time. But, rescue projects are rewarding. It takes special people to take on the challenge and CRN and CNC are special people.
I think we all agree that they want to win. And, are passionate about both UCLA and bringing us back to our rightful place in the universe.
Where we disagree is that I am a lot more hesitant to question their qualifications to do so or some of the decisions they have been making.
No one predicted a winning season. Most of us thought we would be 5/7 or maybe 6/6. We will be.
We thought we might lose a game we should win, and if we played better than expected, win a game we should have lost.
We are right on that projection.
Our first two games were games we projected we'd win. And, we did. Tenn was a game which, in all fairness, we projected we'd lose. We won it. We are one up.
Then, on the road, and without our starting QB, we played a Stanford team that was probably a pre-season push, but until last weekend looked good -- and lost.
I don't think anyone projected an Oregon win. It is simply too good a team. I have no idea why they stunk up Boise, and I watched the whole game, but they rebounded strong and are a genuine top 10 team.
That, after these games, we think we could have/should have won each should inspire us to support our coaches. They got us where we had to be -- playing with mostly untested parts that have not really worked together enough to create a strong working whole.
There are all these rumblings that we should give up some chance of winning to develop our younger talent.
We are playing our younger talent -- not in an effort to create a development year -- but because we have no choice.
On O, with very few exceptions, we are playing first year people. The only area where we are not is at receiver and I think the concerns expressed by many here are valid. But, because we may not be pleased with the play of a couple of seniors does not render the coaches subject to criticism for not giving young guys, across the board, a chance to play.
We are shaky at QB because had everything worked out for us, we would have had a senior QB.
KC was never projected as a starter. The fact that he is our most experienced QB does not mean he has the skill level to succeed in this league. But, he has the heart and plays to his full potential. I think he is a warrior and will always be on his side. In fact, in some ways, I think we have the best chance of winning when he plays. I choose experience over RAW talent. But, the coaches disagree and I respect them.
So, what are they doing? They are going young at QB. Just what people are demanding. And, when you go young at QB, you run the risk that an offense won't work -- not because the OC can't make it work, but because a young QB can't make it work. Holding the ball too long. Throwing to the wrong guy -- into coverage -- inexperience.
You cannot blame the coaches -- especially those of you who want us to play young -- for trying to put those young players into positions where they can succeed by dumbing down the playbook.
And, as much as I appreciate the rousing debate on which young QB should play, frankly we've not seen enough of either to second guess the coaches. (Those on BN who have attended practices seem to be supporting the coaches' choices.)
The D, has more experience, but still has some young guys starting or playing a lot of minutes. Losing Hester was huge for a young, inexperienced team. I am not a big fan of this D -- it was DW's D, but I must concede it played better against Oregon and I was really pleased to see it do so. Yes, we still have tackling issues. But, we did cut down on destructive penalties.
We are a little less than half way into our season. We are in a competitive conference. We have not rolled over in any of our games and that is a sign of growth. Even in losing, we are getting better. I still believe we will win 6 games (including a win over sc) and a bowl game.
The coaches are stocking the garage with parts and rebuilding the Bus as best they can. Unfortunately, they can't keep it in the garage until it is perfect. They have to take it on the road, every week. They have to make it run as best they can until they have everything they need to make it run well.
When it is restored, when it looks like the classic Bus that was once UCLA football, if we maintain it, it will run forever.
And, we will be singing the praises of CRN and CNC in the same voice we do with CBH. We gave CBH time to get his wreck back on the road. And, we must do the same for CRN and CNC.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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I am concerned also about the back seat driving
We have a very talented bus driver. His first assistant bus driver routinely develops Heisman Trophy winners. These guys know what it’s like to drive a bus. They are experienced bus drivers. They have been given the extra task of putting the wheels back on the bus, getting some passengers into the bus, and getting all those passengers in their seats and facing forward.
It seems that lots of others have willingly jumped aboard the bus, incluidng most everyone here in the BN. The last thing the bus driver needs to hear from those who are sitting way, way out on the periphery of the seating area is how he needs to be steering. Right now, the bus is just starting. One or two wheels are out of alignment. The driver is busy, and he doesn’t need a bunch of people (who truly know nothing about the intricacies of bus driving) yelling “Watch out for that car” and “You should have turned back there.”
OK, that’s about as far as I think I can take the bus analogy. Let’s just enjoy the fact that we have a bus that is going forward, not one that is making a movement or turning the corner.
by Fox 71 on Oct 12, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The people on the bus go up and down...
Troy will fall...AGAIN!
by Bruins102NCAA on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Side comment on losses
Since I was a student at UCLA in the 1960’s, and as a supporting fan, both financially (that stopped some time ago), and an emotionally vested person, I have noted that when school starts, UCLA loses one or more games. Sure enough, this year, UCLA lost when school started. Not sure even this respected coaching staff (and I do respect them, and love their stability so far), has an answer for that one. There are the other issues too. Remember that Neuheisel stated more than once that last year UCLA would recruit well, and that happened, and then this year we would recruit well again (seems headed in that direction), and then the team would be better. His challenge is to get from back there (last year) to there (next year). Class of 66 is spot on with his analysis.
Bill
BillSouthBay
by Mensgym on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perspective
I agree with 66 that we should ask questions about everything, including the playcalling, the choice of QB, etc. I also believe we should keep things in perspective.
I will never be satisfied with losses or mediocrity and I do not believe in moral victories. Never, ever. That’s not my point.
But just to keep things in perspective, whenever we lose, I look at the scores around the country and at some of the surprising losses out there.
Our friends at Tennessee just demolished a Georgia team that has been fairly highly ranked this year. Yes, I know Georgia is not the same as in year’s past, but I seem to recall us beating the Vols on the road this year and Georgia got smashed by the same team in the same stadium.
Stanford also got walloped this weekend. That loss was probably not good for us, but here’s my point: Teams lose. S* happens. We are not a great team—yet. But even in the face of these losses, we are recruiting some pretty great players.
Keep it in perspective, folks. The season may take some interesting twists yet. If the wheels fall completely off, then it’s panic time.
by Barnes2JJ on Oct 12, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw your Barnes2JJ, Class of 66!!!
Bunch of website dwelling bandwagoning fans.
by Nestor on Oct 12, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic
I don’t read other blogs and completely trust your characterization of their tone.
So, the slimes creates a a straw base story (attacking a fan base for abandoning a team it has not abandoned) as a means of attacking Bloggers.
The real story is the way the slimes, long ago, abandoned our program and looks for every chance, including made up chances, to denigrate it.
I’m sure the important people in life — the coaches, players, and real Bruins — know that the slimes in a dying in house organ for sc. And, all of the important people I know don’t read it (including the wealthy and influential alums who have those power lunches I only get to read about.)
sjh
by Class of 66 on Oct 12, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it speaks volumes
They have abandoned our program and now they are seeking to denigrate those who have not nor ever will abandon it. Effectiveness aside, I have to call their motives into question here.
Troy will fall...AGAIN!
by Bruins102NCAA on Oct 12, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
I read something in the LAT every day that makes me literally shake my head. They have no sense whatsoever of the pulse of Bruins fans. In fact, once again, this past Saturday they published yet another letter which was sort of meant to be constructively critical of UCLA but was clearly written by an $C fan. They do that all the time.
by Barnes2JJ on Oct 13, 2009 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Our Bruins played a hell of a game and controlled the outcome. Yes, I too walked away disappointed that we, again, shot ourselves in the foot; but I did it with a sense of pride, because we manhandled the No. 13 team for most of the game. Our guys can win. They have shown that they have the ability. Unlike the last two seasons, where we weren’t going to win games because we just weren’t good enough to compete, we have shown that we can compete with anyone, anywhere, at any time. The next step is not just to hang in there, but to win consistently against good competition. Remember, few teams ever make that jump, and ours looks to be heading in the right direction to do just that. Patience is a virtue. Mark my words: the UCLA dynasty is beginning. 2010 Rose Bowl here we come. U-C-L-A-Fight-Fight-Fight!
by hwn44 on Oct 12, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets not forget about strength...
Our youth movement not only contributes to the mistakes and lack of execution, but lets not forget that the younger you are, the less physically mature you will be. Reggie Carter didn’t come into UCLA weighing 250lbs of pure muscle. Hell, he wasn’t even that size last year! With young guys on the O-line & sprinkled around our starting line up, there are times that we will get bullied around, especially on the goal line. It happens. I hated it as much as the next Bruin, but playing power football on the goal line is tough when your guys in the trenches barely have hair on their n@ts! We are gaining experience and strength at the same time, and we will be better for it next year.
I commend our coaching staff for winning our games so far with basically smoke and mirrors so far. It will take time to get our program to respectability. Sure we all had high hopes coming into the season, but I think that we are still on schedule for what we all hoped for; we have 7 more games to get 3 victories. It can and will happen. Do we hope for more, sure, but 6 wins is a victory. If you remember my post from pre-season, do understand that it was an optimistic post that could have only happened if all of the stars alligned- and they definitely did not. It didn’t factor in broken jaws, suspensions, broken legs, etc. Optimism was the name of the game. But I think we are fine and are headed in the right direction. And for those claiming that Chow has lost his stuff, kick yourself in your own ass now!
by westwood78 on Oct 12, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really
UCLA fans need to understand that you are a fan until AFTER the final seconds tick down. My friends and I were front row, painted, screaming until the very last seconds ticked off the clock and even then, you don’t leave. We played a long, hard game and even though the score didn’t reflect it, our team played very well against the #13 Oregon Ducks. If people are jumping off the bandwagon after only two losses they should be ashamed of themselves, or at least understand that they are acting like students from a lesser institution across town. Go bruins. Stay BLUE AND GOLD FOREVER!!!
"If you don't have time to do right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden
by robdog502 on Oct 12, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think people on BN
Need to be reminded of what entails being real UCLA fans.
by Nestor on Oct 12, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
about BN, but I feel like everyone who isn’t on BN needs to start acting like the enjoy being at UCLA, and that they appreciate being accepted into the most amazing school ever.
"If you don't have time to do right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden
by robdog502 on Oct 12, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRAVO, 66.
I was at the Rose Bowl, fighting off a 101-degree fever and numbness in my fingers and toes, so I probably was physically incapable of getting too upset during the game, or crafting a well-thought-out call for calm thereafter.
THANK YOU for stepping up with this.
We are ALL Bruin fans, and while many of us may not like some of the different stops along the way, we are ALL still riding this out to the end of the line.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Oct 12, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
UCLA = HEART
Can’t be a Bruin fan without feeling like Rocky, but 106th in total offense is UNACCEPTABLE.
WE ARE UCLA BROTHER BRUINS, WE SHOULD NOT BE 106 IN ANYTHING, PERIOD.
BTW: UCLA = HEART. You can hear from far and near the Mighty Bruin roar!
by Bruin4ver on Oct 12, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree whole heartedly
I was hoping you’d post something like this 66, and you delivered.
I think it’s clear that this team is on the right path, and the fact that so many fans were upset after these two losses proves it. Despite there being grievances about personnel use, play calling, special teams play, etc. I believe that when it’s all said and done most fans were upset we lost because these games were winnable. However, like 66 said, consider what the state of our program was just two years ago. Would these games have been winnable under CTS? I highly doubt it. And that right there is an indication that we are on the right path.
Even with all the youngsters I see a team that is making improvements. We are now able to run the ball (albeit nothing too spectacular), but it is something we were NOT AT ALL able to do last year. The QB also has time to throw the ball and is not being ground into the turf every other play (ala Kevin Craft last year). Our D, despite missing tackles is not giving up as many points as in years past. They make their stances when they need to, create turnovers, and even put some points up on the board.
Though I firmly believe overall inexperience plays a part in our offensive woes, when it’s all said and done I believe most of the team’s inability to score originates from two areas: QB play and receiver play. However, before I am accused of bashing our QBs and receivers, let me say that I have the greatest confidence in all our QBs and receivers. They are very talented players, each with their own set of skills. However, simply put, they are not executing the way they CAN and SHOULD. On the part of the QB’s you have some VERY inexperienced players. Making the jump from HS to D-1 college ball is extremely difficult, even with a year of the playbook under your belt. Conversely, I have also seen some poor throws on their behalf. They have not only missed wide open men, but have thrown balls into double coverage and/or lobbed the ball in an attempt to make a play. As for the receiving corps, we have SOME inexperience with Carrol and Presley, but Austin is a senior and Embree is a second year starter. Both have played well in years past. I have seen way too many lazy routes run, a lack of separation from the defender, and dropped passes. This includes tight ends as well. About the only receiver I would say is making the most of his appearances is Rosario.
All in all, I would say that we’re making some progress. Our bus is missing only a few parts, which would otherwise make it road ready. Last year we had neither a running game or a passing game. This year we have somewhat of a running game and half of a passing game. If the QB’s and receiving corp can get on the same page in the next couple weeks, I will say that our bus is not only road ready, but will be ready to begin its ascent.
by OutOThsWrld on Oct 12, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only one area where criticism of coaching might be fair
Kickoff coverage….admit it. When Oregon took the return all the way, you werent surprised. We have been pushing our luck for awhile. (Though the length of the kickoffs has hidden this in the Stanford game). This has been true now for 2 years.
That said, it seemed to me being at the game, that we were quite close to shutting down the play, so how serious can the criticism be? And, we got blocked punts, blocked field goals and a nice punt return this year — so our special teams are doing quite well in other areas, so again, how serious can the criticism be.
Lets just fix kickoff returns.
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Oct 12, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree about the kick and punt returns.
The stubborn reliance on our older, slower kick returner over a much quicker younger guy is a travesty. Yes, the younger guy can make mistakes, but that’s a risk you have to take when you have an offense that can’t score touchdowns.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Oct 12, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have the essence of the issue
All the talk about coaching comes down to one of 2 views about what you do when you have an offense like we have:
Your view: “a risk you have to take when you have an offense that can’t score touchdowns”. That is why I have advocated elsewhere more use of reverses and some gimmick plays.
I think CRN and CNC have an opposite view: “we cant afford turnovers when you have an offense that cant score.”
However you look at it though, we need to win the special teams battle. Kickers are great. Otherwise we are mediocre. Maybe more starters need to join the special teams
I think the punt and kick off returns is not quite as clear cut as you make it. Austin had some great returns last year and had a nice one this year. So to me it is more of a toss up than you make it.
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Oct 12, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unite the Clans, Wallace!
Great write up ’66! I feel like putting on some pale blue face paint and charging the English at Stirling!
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Oct 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its important
to review every game, but have perspective on where we came from and where we are going. There are going to be disappointments along the way, but as coach says, we can disagree with some of the coaching decisions without being disagreeable.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Oct 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 99%
Especially that we should not attack coaches (e.g. CNC) just because we have concerns about the coaching of the O-squad. OTOH: it is fair to ask “Does he still have it?” (as a silver-hair, this hits me hard, too) – asking questions is part of the culture of UCLA. Sure, the evidence (five inconsistent games with a very young offense) is inconclusive: Even geniuses need time to work their magic. Still, after Saturday’s game (with Nestor’s “3 crystallizing moments”), it is understandable for fans to lose patience and start asking these questions prematurely.
Oh and that B.S. about us jumping off the bandwagon reveals how few really people “get” the culture at UCLA. Perhaps the #1 reason I am a loyal Bruin is that at no time during UG or Grad studies was I ever expected to uncritically adopt a POV – even school loyalty. Then and now, UCLA really exemplifies the culture of questioning all things [That said, after questions have been answered, we expect people to RTFM before asking old questions!] If being on “the bandwagon” requires blind acceptance, then I am proud to say “We don’t do that at UCLA!”
by JonnyG on Oct 12, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Write-Up, 66!
While we all question bits and pieces of the program’s management – We couldn’t give the ball to Ramirez on 3rd and 5 at the 10 in a four-down situation? Arrrgggh!!! – one would have to be nuts not to believe in CRN and CNC. Frankly, my biggest concern is whether there’s any friction between the two of them over the QB issues.
I don’t know why you don’t like the defense. All in all, I think Walker’s D has done a lot of excellent things over the last few years.
By the way, 66, I sign everything with my initials, except here. I can’t figure out why.
Go Bruins!
—SJH
by ucla84 on Oct 12, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So I'll take the lower case and you get the cap's?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Oct 12, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
what are the odds?
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 12, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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