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Prelude To Stanford Has The Tennessee Feeling

On The Road Again. Photo Credit: Jim Boofer

As UCLA gets ready to play its second road game of the season it the dynamics feels pretty much the same (at least to me) heading into the first road game in Tennessee. The Friday before the Tennessee game I wrote how the pressure was really on Tennessee (and specifically on Lane Kiffin) to win that game. Well in many ways Jim Harbaugh and his Stanford Cardinal are going to face similar pressure heading into this game. This is a huge game for Stanford. Following this game 3 of their next 5 matchups are on the road including dates with U$C* on the road and Oregon at home. If they want to put themselves in a position for a good bowl game in Harbaugh's third year in Palo Alto this is a game in which (from their POV) they must hold serve.

Also, just like the Tennessee game they are going to have the revenge factor on their side. So it's not a surprise that heading into tomorrow's matchup majority of the pundits are expecting Cardinal to beat Bruins. That means our guys should go into this matchup with the mindset of having nothing to lose and taking advantage of an opportunity in which they would be able to move our program another step by giving the same kind of effort, intensity and heart they showed in the Volunteer state.

Let's go through the predictions from pundits around the country and you will get the sense what I am talking about.  Ted Miller from ESPN writes:

Stanford 21, UCLA 17: UCLA has a strong defense and a middling offense. The guess here is Stanford's balanced offense and middling defense will have enough -- playing at home -- to nip the Bruins.

The CollegeFootballNews guys over at Scout.com are on the same page with Ted picking Stanford to win:

What will happen: It may be the Pac-10, but defenses and special teams will rule the day in a low-scoring, hard-hitting chess match. The Bruin defense and PK Kai Forbath will the team close for 60 minutes, but an inability to get in the end zone will be its downfall. Gerhart will manufacture 85 yards and the go-ahead touchdown on the ground.
CFN Prediction: Stanford 24 … UCLA 20 ... Line: Stanford -6

Also, (serving this up purely for informational purposes) from Sports Book Betting Promotions:

UCLA vs Stanford College Football Predictions & Sports Odds - UCLA's defense is definitely good, but Toby Gerhart is quality enough to break them down. Should be a tight game, but I see Stanford pulling it out.

We already noted how SportsNetwork (on SBN) is predicting a 10 point victory for the Cardinal. So you get the picture. Bruins are shaping up to be almost consensus underdogs heading into what could be our biggest Pac-10 game since 2001. And as mentioned above that's not the only similarity with the Tennessee game.

Star-divide

No doubt Stanford will be thinking about what went down at the Rose Bowl last year:

Nearly a year later, the Cardinal will want their revenge.

"Time is on our side," Bruins redshirt senior tight end Logan Paulsen said. "That was a whole year away. A lot of things have happened from that time until now. Obviously, they're going to use that play as motivation for their guys, and they should. It was a tough loss. I know we would be upset about it."

If Paulsen sounds like a coach-in-training, it's because his own coaches have not let the Bruins dwell on the past.

Chow was his classic self when asked about last year:

"Obviously it was a nice win, and I don't want to demean that," UCLA offensive coordinator Norm Chow said. "But this is another year, another time. We never look beyond the next game, we never look back to far. This is coach-speak, I know. But it's the truth. We don't talk about anything else."

I think the dynamic around this game would have been a little different if we had a healthy Kevin Prince. Then we would be looking at a situation in which coaches might have opened up the offense a little more against Kansas State, and we would be heading into this game with a more balanced team. However, as we said couple of weeks ago this is not the year for Bruin fans to get paranoid and get into the woe is us routine. Moreover, we have a number of factors working in our favor. Our OL is showing signs of continuity. Our running game has shown sings of life. We have a great kicking game and bunch of warriors on defense.

As badly as I want UCLA to win tomorrow afternoon, more importantly I want our guys to come out focused, poised and ready to battle for the entire 40 60 mins, giving us the best chance to win. Given what they have gone though in last four years, I like the chances of cowboying up and bring home a huge win. Chows words certainly give me a sense of calm assurance.  It certainly feels like the pressure is going to be on them to win and hold serve. We need to go out there and play with the same determination our guys showed in Tennessee. I like where our team is heading into tomorrow's game.

GO BRUINS.

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Well Put Nes

UCLA has basically no reason to be arrogant or full of themselves Saturday, I like having to go uphill, because now that Stanford is getting some attention, more-so than usual… wait… more than basically ever right? Stanford is the one who is in that “trap game” mentality, but also they want revenge, and revenge is the most overrated motivator in the game of football. I just want to be relentlessly positive.

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 2, 2009 5:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree about revenge

It strikes me as headline-filler more than anything. If a team has to rely on “revenge” to be motivated, that doesn’t say much about their mental strength.

by bluebland on Oct 2, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Miller's emphasis on Stanford playing at home . . .

. . . is misplaced. This is the Farm, not Autzen. Furd might have the smallest home field advantage of any Pac 10 team. If UCLA gets any momentum, I expect the 15k plus Bruin fans expected to attend to drown out the home crowd.

by orlandobruin on Oct 2, 2009 5:50 AM PDT reply actions  

And

If we can play well before 100,000 Tennessee Vols fans, I’m confident that our boys can play well in any stadium.

I know that we had Prince in Tennessee and now we don’t, but the last time I checked, Prince only plays one position. None of the rest of the offensive or defensive players seemed intimidated by the atmosphere in Tennessee. They just went out and played a great game.

I just think way too much emphasis is placed on the home crowd, wherever it might be.

Go Bruins!

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 2, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Stanford is 6-1 at home since beginning of 2008

While true that the crowd may not be raucous, playing at one’s home field is still worth something. Not having to travel, sleeping at home, eating what you normally do, familiarity with the locker room, these all have some positive effect, perhaps even more of a positive effect than the screaming fans.

by BruinsRule on Oct 2, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a short flight

and it’s in the same time zone. And the weather is the same. Our boys should be fine in that respect.

Here’s to no penalties and no turnovers for the Bruins, and no injuries to anyone.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about those last 20 minutes, N?

As badly as I want UCLA to win tomorrow afternoon, more importantly I want our guys to come out focused, poised and ready to battle for the entire 40 mins,

Banking on a late 3d quarter collapse are we?

Hell no! Only one Southern California team is coming home happy from the Bay area and it ain’t the ones with the horsey.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Oct 2, 2009 6:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Doh

My bad. :-) Too early in the am.

by Nestor on Oct 2, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

that was my guess lol

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Oct 2, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Yeah … I was reading the blue ribbon previews last night.

by Nestor on Oct 2, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking Ahead to Hoops Season

I was going to write a fan post about the incredible culture change at UCLA over that of the past years — we are no longer dwelling on hoops season and talking about football as a secondary sport.

Funny, as much as I love Ben Ball and our returning and new kids, my mind is totally on football.

Finally, there is a season, turn, turn, turn, and a time for every sport on our campus.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 2, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I see it, the best reason we pull out a win:

to quote Ted Miller himself:

UCLA has a strong defense and a middling offense. The guess here is Stanford’s balanced offense and middling defense will have enough — playing at home — to nip the Bruins.

All things being equal a team with a strong defense will always beat a team with a middling defense. Ask Michael Jordan. He didn’t win any championships until he dedicated himself to defense.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Oct 2, 2009 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Unfortunately

I think in football offense wins championships in the same way that defense wins championships in basketball. Football defenses (especially in college) are at a natural disadvantage, since the offense knows what it’s doing and forces the action. If you look around at the extremes, great offense/bad defense teams end up doing much better than great defense/bad offense teams. (See UCLA, 1998)

by bluebland on Oct 2, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure I agree

Name the last great offensive team to win a championship without a good defense.

The beauty of a good defense is that it travels well. And a good defense can force the action too.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 2, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you look at BCS teams over the last decade

You’ll see far more lopsidedly offensive teams than the other way around: Oklahoma last year could’ve easily won the championship, and their defense was ranked in the lower half of the nation.

Meanwhile Tennessee, at 5-7, had the second-best defense in the SEC (just behind Alabama). And for years under Croom MSU had the best defense in the SEC, while never going above .500. Yet you can find a whole host of great offense-only teams in the BCS.

Obviously a good defense is almost always necessary to win a championship or make a BCS, but the lack of it is overcome more often than a bad offense. I think it’s just because a defense, no matter how good, can only do so much — whereas a truly great offense can never be stopped.

by bluebland on Oct 2, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I hope won't be like the UT game

The piss-poor officiating.

Unfortunately, these are SPTRs.

by UCLA4Life on Oct 2, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

This game is really big

but I’d still argue that Tennessee was bigger. It set the tone for the season.

by captainqtp on Oct 2, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Every game is the biggest game

Every game needs all the intensity and focus that we can muster.

No looking backward, just look at the task at hand.

by layout on Oct 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 2, 2009 6:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

nice write up, i really think this will be a close one

if KC makes smart decisions,i think we can do it Go Bruins!

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Oct 2, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Faith in our Coordinators

This is a very even match up, us having the better D and the tree having the better O.
I might also give them a slight edge in the ST department.
I thing I will be most interested in, is seeing if having that extra week to prepare, enable our coordinators to find some things that we can exploit on both sides of the ball.
Stanford is a very well coached team, they don’t overwhelm you with talent though.
Here’s hoping we win the chess match aspect, especially early in the game.
Stanford does not appear to be a team that would play well from behind.

by Rico Bruin on Oct 2, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

In Close, Tight Games The Will To Win Is Huge

And I think our guys have that confidence in the back of their minds that they can do this.

Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Oct 2, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

They could win;

we could win. Nestor has nailed it. It is very much like the Tennessee game without a vast, angry throng in orange chanting ESS – EEE – CEE and various other nonsensical spells, invocations and the like. I am a little worried about the rust from the bye week, but I am hoping that Stanford cleverly tries to counter its own tendencies by going away from Gerhart for a while and shoots itself in the foot in the process. But, in the end it comes down to being a close one on the road. If we have decent field position, avoid crucial penalties and dumb mistakes, I think we are just a little better overall.

by ReineSeite on Oct 2, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Difference from Tennessee...

…. is that Stanford really will play to their strength offensively by pounding the ball relentlessly, and don’t have a mistake-prone quarterback like Crompton (who has had a major role in our victories over Tennessee the last two seasons). Gerhardt has more rushes this season by himself than Luck has passing attempts. Crompton averages 2 INTs per game, Luck less than 1…

by britishbruin on Oct 2, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Stanfords opponents sucked

Their offense has never seen a d like ours. Check out UW’s run stopping ability; awful. They will try to run, when they are forced to throw because they can’t run, the turnovers will come. Hopefully Craft and the boys will score off of any good field position. I can’t wait to see them going deep on our secondary. 24-17 UCLA. Dang, that game was good!

Go Bruins

by BruinAl on Oct 2, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

We will win

If the game is a close, that means anyone could win. With one or two more turn-overs in our favor, we could win. I honestly think that our freshmen’s potential and our coaching are the two keys to win this ballgame. I might be crazy, but I like our chances. 21-7 UCLA. Go Bruins!

by NNL on Oct 2, 2009 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

third and long

I think the key will be stopping Gerhardt on first down. Make him struggle to get some yards on second and then leave it up to Crompton and Stanfurd Offensive line to mess up. I read an interesting stat that if you can make an offense take ten or more snaps the odds of them turning the ball over or incuring a penalty that ruins a drive will occur over 30% of the time.
Gerhardt barely fumbles , but they have a young offensive line that might get a little jittery if Price and Co. batter them early.

Go Bruins
TRM

by G0Bruins on Oct 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Crompton?

I think he’d be violating some kind of trading rule. But I get your point

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 2, 2009 6:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

meant Luck

oops, I meant to say leave up to Luck and the Stanfurd O line to make mistakes

Go Bruins
TRM

by G0Bruins on Oct 2, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

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