Steve Lavin Lies So Effortlessly About His UCLA "Experience" As A "Coach"
by Nestor on Oct 20, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
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I don't think we need to expand and lay out why Steve Lavin is a joke (or why we have dubbed him the Blagojevich Of College Hoops) as a "coach" and insult to the legacy of UCLA basketball. However, what amazes me still is he how can continue to BS and more disturbingly just lie so effortlessly about his time at UCLA.
Case in point check out this cringing interview that just went up on Washington Huskies's Dawg Blog in which Husky senior Quincy Pondexter interviewed the ESPN's in house gasbag clown (guess they are grooming him to be Duke Vitale's heir apparent).
Per the Dawg Blog the inteview "turned into a great 3 1/2 minute segment that had Pondexter and Lavin joking with each other and then coach Lorenzo Romar." The result is something pretty cringe worthy as you might expect:
The Flip Side: Quincy Pondexter Interviews Steve Lavin (via UWAthletics)
Hmm I tried to watch it and then almost threw up at the point when Lavin started BSing how "if he had recruited Pondexter out of Fresno, he still might be working at Westwood."Guess what he actually said with a straight face about why he missed out on recruiting talents such as Poindexter to UCLA :
I always missed out on players ... Too much talent. Not enough scholarships to go around.
Yeah, this is from the same guy who lived Coach Ben Howland with a roster with which he ended up having to give substantial minutes to Janou Roubin, Kon Crispin, Josiah Johnson and Ryan Walcott. Should I even bring up how he was playing "talents" such as Sean Farnham and Rico Hines while wasting NBA talents such as Matt Barnes on the bench?
Yet he is out there BSing about missing out on players because he didn't have enough scholarships to recruit talent into Westwood. Just how pathologically shameless an individual can get? I don't get why a scumbag like this fraud is sometimes allowed near functions associated with UCLA or even back inside Pauley.
GO BRUINS.
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TGFBH.
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"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Oct 20, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's the hair i tell you...THE HAIR!!!!
LAVIN IS A SNAKE OIL SALESMAN…is and always will be…
by bruincheerleader on Oct 20, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You missed out on players
BECAUSE NO ONE WANTED TO PLAY FOR YOU! HELLO? HELLO? ANYBODY HOME? THINK McFLY, THINK!
No seriously, why does he think that the JF, AA, JS, LMR freshman class played so many minutes in their first year? It sure as hell wasn’t CBH playing favorites.
by Tydides on Oct 20, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not enough scholarships
Every coach has the same limitations and scholarship numbers. He was in the same boat as everyone else and at that time Stanford and Arizona managed to get enough talent with the scholarships available to them. I wonder if he lost some players to CSUN in the year they beat us at Pauley?
by EdtheBruin on Oct 20, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lying?
I think he believes what he says.
I really don’t know what to think about him – and I’d rather not think about him at all. TGFBH indeed!!!!
by haywood nighttrain on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
Why dwell on Lavin when we have CBH? What would Coach do with Lavin? He’d probably forgive and move on to better times with the Caretaker in charge.
I’m looking forward to a great ‘09-’10 campaign!
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
by Yoyo on Oct 20, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might not care
But I do especially when he keeps lying about our basketball program after flushing it down the toilet. Don’t really care about lectures on forgiving and forget when we still have those 7 years of nightmare fresh in our minds (and he keeps to flaunting at us thinking he won’t get called out for it). If you don’t care about holding him accountable that’s your deal but don’t tell us on what we should be writing or not writing here on BN. Thanks.
by Nestor on Oct 20, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I will stop calling “bullshit” on him when he stops speaking bullshit.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Oct 20, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he had no talent
That was his problem. Baron Davis, Matt Barnes, Dan Gadzuric, Jerome Moiso, Earl Watson, Jason Kapono, Toby Bailey. Just awful talent. Oh and BTW, every single one of the players mentioned got time in the NBA at worst and was an NBA All-Star at best.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 20, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He will never go back to coaching
He needs this sad tired narrative to give himself credibility and if he goes back to the bench and is exposed as the fraud he is, he will have nothing.
by Tydides on Oct 20, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
similar to Vitale
It is much easier to “report” on coaching than to actually coach. Hard numbers can be so troublesome!
by EdtheBruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Harrick was canned who were the choices?
Pitino was rumored, Larry Brown ditto. If one of those guys had come in and stayed……we would not have CBH. Lavin bought the program time to let CBH develope and become available to us. That is the one and only thing Lavin did right, and it was unintentional. I am sure that his big wins ie..Maryland in the NCAA’s, upset of Stanford and Arizona, were pure mistakes where he did zero coaching. I am still amazed that the program had some level of success in the NCAA’s during his tenure.
by 84 on Oct 20, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at the talent on those teams
That’s where that tiny bit of success came from and all you need to do is walk the campus and look at the Pauley rafters to see how that talent ended up in Westwood.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 20, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words..
John Wooden and his teams did the recruiting by making those four letters on the chest stand for something to be proud of. Good point. There was quite a bit of talent on those teams that really did underachieve. I can assure all you guys who were in school during those times, that it was no better and in fact arguably worse when Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard were in charge. I had to endure those days after Larry Brown left.
by 84 on Oct 20, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. Fox 71 was a choice, as was Mrs. Class of 66, and Mrs Nestor, and ....
CHP was and is and always will be a fraud, a dilletante. He had no understanding of the concept of coaching at any level. He had no idea about recruiting. He was not an x’s and o’s guy, as we know from his having to ask if the opposition was playing zone or man to man.
You ask who else was avaliable. ANYBODY was available. Got a highschool coach in California, or Borneo? You think there is a coach anywhere who wouldn’t jump at the chance to come to UCLA. Pick a student at random. Find an usher who worked Laker games. If we couldn’t get Coach to come out of retirement, get someone with one enzymular part of one chromosome of Coach’s DNA. Just as ANYBODY was available, that same anybody would have been better than CHP.
We settled for what we could get, and we got what we paid for, just like what we got in football the last time around. Now the anecdote, which I believe is mandatory for a geezer. I just finished re-reading “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” by LeCarre. It’s about a Russian mole in the British secret service (sort of a fictional story of the real mole, Kim Philby.) Anyway, the Russians plant their man high up in the British secret service, and he totally screws it over. Strings of agents are caught and killed, all the British secrets are compromised, the Russians are planting chickenfeed, which the mole explains to be pure gold. (Good book, read it.) Anyway, my point is that I think the guy who hired CHP — another whose name I cannot bring myself to type — was a trOJie mole. We had a nice athletic program until he started saying things like “Gee, our new baskeball coach is just swell – he told me how good he was during our interview, and I really grilled him.” This is the same guy who set the stage (or so I am told) for Mr. Guerrero to hire CTS.
No one but a plant from just$c* would have hired CHP.
End of rant and end of anecdote.
by Fox 71 on Oct 20, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree!
I often thought the same thing during the end of his tenure. I am so glad Dan Guerrero is our current AD. Somebody who CARES about UCLA athletics.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Oct 20, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax Fox 71
Fox 71.. keep up with the meds and slow down. The unfortunate historical episode that took me off the basketball season ticket list long ago shows how resilient UCLA really is. The school survived this mess and has moved on. The fact that the “mess” keeps sh!!!! in public for all to see is a travesty, we all know. BTW, whatever happened to the wedding gifts from his marriage that didn’t occur?
Bill
BillSouthBay
by Mensgym on Oct 20, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lavin himself said it best
When he said, “If I can’t win a championship with the talent we have here, I can’t coach.” Well, he did not win a championship with Baron Davis, Matt Barnes, Jaron Rush, et al. Ergo, he cannot coach.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Oct 20, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's funny
Only a loser like Lavin could be correctly called out as a fool over the only intelligent comment he’s ever made.
by bornagainbruin on Oct 21, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it makes you feel any better:
I saw the Lavinoma at the Fashion Island mall here in the OC.
Diagnosis: FAT
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Oct 20, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But on the other hand
Quincy Pondexter speaks very well and shows a lot of poise in front of the camera. He just needs to be interviewing better mentors if he really wants to get into broadcasting. Where’s Gus Johnson?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on Oct 21, 2009 6:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's true.
Nobody has commented on this but, Lavin’s worst comment (or lack thereof) is his non response to Quincy’s question about getting into broadcasting. There is absolutely nothing in Lavin’s response that would help anyone get into broadcasting. IMO he looks befuddled by the question. Like even he doesn’t know how he got into it.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Oct 21, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, good luck to QP
But I don’t know what was making me more nauseated, the subject matter or the camera work. Who did they get to shoot this, Blair Witch 3? Take a step back, for God’s sake.
by Give me a B... on Oct 22, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lavin's wifey is hot though. I'll give him that.
“This is my purple pimpin’ tie.” – It never fails. Some ‘folks’ always feel the need to bust out the hip lingo when in the presence of other types of people.
I will always root for Lorenzo, behind UCLA of course.
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Oct 23, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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