Breaking down "the details" of the UCLA defense
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Like everyone else I was surprised by this quote by Coach Rick Neuheisel.
"I understand their dissatisfaction, especially given the 3-0 start and that things were turning [around], and so on and so forth," Neuheisel said. "All I can tell them is that we're going to keep working at it. "It's too long and too hard a story to give all the details, and frankly I don't think they'd understand all the details. We have to keep working at it, no excuses."
I am kind of curious as to what he means by "understanding all the details" so I took a look at the tape from last Saturday's game against Cal. Keep in mind that I'm not an expert and that I do not know what's really going on in the meetings, pressbox, or the sideline - just taking a look and speculating on what's going on based on what I see from our defense.
Basics
Defense is more than just running to the ball, you need to have structure. Lou Tepper wrote the bible on linebacking awhile back that had a nice metaphor of a defense "closing the door".
Here is a diagram of how it looks - you have an outside door post (labeled "Force"), an inside door post (labeled "Spill"), and a "Fill" player that closes the swinging door. Anything up the middle gets tackled or "spilled" laterally, anything outside gets "forced" back inside. On the backside you have "Contain" guys responsible for cutbacks and reverses. Some coaches use different terms but this is how I learned it. UCLA's defense has often lined up like this, usually with Akeem Ayers as the 5th man on the line, Reggie Carter as the "M", and Kyle Bosworth as the "W". Notice that with "W" flowing over top of the center it opens up a bubble on the backside - the safety usually drops down on run away from his side to contain in an under front.
Being Aggressive
The way I learned defense, linebackers need to figure out which way the run is going, and aggressively "press" the line and fill a gap in order to make the tackle or "spill" the run laterally towards the force player, who will force him to cut back or dance, giving the fill player time to clean up. If the run goes right it should look like above, if it goes left, maybe the defensive end becomes force, the safety becomes fill, and the two LBs press gaps to the other side. Here are some clips of solid reads by the linebackers (in my opinion), with that backside safety dropping down as the 8th man in the box.
The first two are from a great defensive afternoon during which we won 13-9. On the first play, the two LBs (freshman Reggie Carter and Christian Taylor) press and Dennis Keyes drops down to play the backside, on the second one it is Horton. I'd like to point out Carter in the last two, as he is aggressive and presses the hole.
By comparison here is a reel of plays were our linebackers are not nearly as aggressive. The first one is from the 2005 Cal game (you will need to rewind a few times to catch this, but watch #41 and #9). Havner #41 and London #9 are the LBs. I think that LBs should shuffle in tandem, to maintain original spacing - you see 9 and 41 shuffle to their left, but then 41 stops, chops his feet, appears to be waiting. I think that if he had continued left he would have made the tackle, but instead he is blocked - one Cal lineman blocks two of our guys - and the result is a big hole and a big run. I am not a fan of defenders being hesitant and waiting to "catch" ballcarriers, I think that there should be fast flow to their responsibility, fill the gap and trust in the other 10 guys to do their job as well.
In the 2nd clip you see 51 chopping his feet as well, waiting for Verheen to break through the line - he makes the tackle but it is about 4 yards downfield. He had help to his right, so I am not sure why he hesitated. Again, I don't know the scheme, but my guess is that it has something to do with that. there was a blitz on and maybe he was responsible for two gaps. In the 2nd and 3rd clip, you see the same thing, a lot of lateral movement by the LB but nothing upfield. In the last, he kind of shuffles around a little like he is just trying to mirror the back rather than attacking any specific gap.
I am not sure why this is going on. One possibility is that players are simply just trying to do too much. You can't tell a player he has to be aggressive but also hold down backside contain. Maybe the scheme is too complicated...I'm a believer in simplicity, being able to rep a handful of plays or defenses and being able to execute them. Players need to be confident in order to be aggressive, they need to be sure of where they need to step and how to react against different looks. A great defense is one where you see all defenders react in unison because they were all keying the same thing, took the same steps, and did what they were supposed to do. In the second video it seems like our backers are just taking short, choppy steps but not really gaining any ground in any direction - they are not really moving at all, just bouncing around until they get blocked - I don't think that this is something that is supposed to be happening.
Staying at Home
This has been documented already by the 93-yarder by Jahvid Best, so I'll just roll the tape.
In the first clip, I see the DE and the LB take the same angle inside, and both aren't able to react in time when the pitch goes outside. Not sure who has contain, but neither of them get there, and the corner is unable to get off his block. I'm thinking that the LB should have been on top of that but it is hard to say. On the 2nd clip it is just a handoff on a zone read look, and the DE looks to play it well - can't ask him to defend the QB and the RB, and he takes the QB, respecting that threat. The LB, however, looks like he was caught inside as well and tries to spin out of it and doesn't make the play. I don't think that he had to slide inside like that, as if the back had chosen to cut inside there would have been another LB there to make the tackle.
Coverage
I was mainly looking at the run defense but this play caught my eye - its the long TD pass to Jahvid Best. I just remembered looking at the photo of Best running down the sideline with only Bosworth chasing him and was wondering how and why a player wearing #54 ended up trying to cover Best down the sideline.
Here is the play in question. Cal lines with 2 backs, 1 TE, 2 WRs, and runs playaction to the FB with Best sneaking down the sideline. On this play we do have both LBs press aggressively, although the line shows pass and the guard pulls to the right. The safety also reads run and flies down. From what I could tell, it looked like quarters coverage, which is a hybrid coverage - man with some zone principles.
Quarters is strong against the run as the safeties are looking to fly up in run support. The corners are locked up on #1, the outermost WR to each side. The safeties are reading #2 - in this case, the TE to the right and the first back out of the backfield to the left. If #2 goes vertical then the safeties have them man up, otherwise they are looking to double cover #1. If #2 gives them a run read (ie, TE blocking, back playaction) then the safeties will fly up. The OLBs are looking to carry #2 or #3 into the flat.
Back to the play, you see #54 play the run, back off, turn around, and chase Best down the sideline. I'm not so sure that our coaches would ask Bosworth to carry #2, Best, through the flat and vertically downfield - it's a lot to ask. The safety to that side never seems to even look at #2, he just turns around to chase #1 once he realizes that it is a PA pass. Seems to me that Best should have been his man, but again, I don't even know for a fact that it was quarters coverage and what the individual responsibilities were.
Final Thoughts
- Tackling, playing smart and disciplined football, avoiding penalties, and staying at home are the obvious problems that need fixing, you don't need to break anything down to see what.
- I noticed the lack of aggression by the LBs, the tendency to shuffle around and "catch" ballcarriers, which reminded me of our 2005 defense and really confused me.
- You need to know your assignments to be confident and you need to be confident in order to be aggressive.
- I think that Reggie Carter seems to have been absent from our defense the past few games, as he does not seem to be in on many tackles anymore.
- I think that he is being asked to read something, or play more patiently for some reason.
- I didn't mention Sheldon Price but when it looks like he is asked to be that "outer door post" in run support he seems to have trouble maintaining the "doorway".
- Brian Price is a beast, there was one play in there where he basically had 3 guys trying to block him and still managed to influence the play.
- Playing an offense that lines up spread out like Arizona might actually help us. Maybe if there isn't as much traffic in the box our guys will be able to make the correct reads and react accordingly.
- I don't think stopping the run is as simple as "playing 8-man fronts" and "loading the box" - that's basically what we are already doing with our front, and you saw what happened when we were in quarters, a virtual 9-man front.
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Very good read.
I’ve enjoyed a lot of your posts lately. You clearly do your homework, and you know what you are talking about even if you consistently downplay it.
Keep ’em coming JT!
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
Fairly New to BN and...
…didn’t realize that I was to receive the equivalent of a Master’s in Football Scouting and Tactics.
Very informative and insightful, much appreciated not only for Bruins viewing for all football!
great read!
to follow up on your points.
-That play with Kyle Bosworth, the safety should have seen that and given him help over the top. Both safeties bit extremely hard on the run. You can barely see it, but hes just jogging back into coverage and doesnt even look to the sideline for support until after the catch.
-I completely agree with the comparison to our 05 defense. What Kerr let Havner and London do their senior year was play linebacker more like a safety. Rather than playing downhill, they just roamed the defensive backfield, shuffled, and tried to make a play. If you feeling like throwing up, go back and check out the 05 Arizona game, youll see how that worked out for us. That will sure make you feel better about our d today. Anyways, what made Reggie great in previous years and it made an average linebacker great (C. Taylor) was playing downhill, filling the gaps, going through blocks, not around them.
-Lastly, what I think is encouraging is this stuff is easy to fix. It isnt rocket science. Even though it may confuse a lot of people. Our defense has shown it can play assignment football for 3 quarters of a game. Its about getting it right the other 15 minutes. That comes from trusting the guy next to you.
I'm a rocket scientist...
But football confuses me. (>_<)
by solidgoldsound on Oct 21, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Big Ups
Appreciate the time you put into this and I love your breakdowns.
I’m guilty of the “stack the box” to fix all that ails our defense. :D I posted the what Feldman wrote in his article about how speed affects scoring. In that article, Eric Weddle (former Utah Ute and current Charger) said that in the NFL, 9 out of 10 times, everyone on the defense does everything right. While in college, it’s a 50-50 proposition. Even when done right, NFL teams are making plays after plays since there are lots of very good players.
Your 2nd bullet point is something that has bugged the hell out of me. For years, I’ve parked my butt on the couch and watched college football all day. When I watch these games, I see defenses across the country play aggressive, run downhill, fill gaps, blow people up, etc. I see defenders attack the ballcarrier as opposed to shuffle and “catch” them as you noted. I then turn on our game and I see a total different brand of defense that is being played. Too many times have I seen one of our guys meet a ballcarrier and either a) get run over/around or b) give up extra YAC yards.
To me, the most recent UCLA defender to play an aggressive style was Robert Thomas. I remember the one year when (I think?) he led the country in tackles for loss. Thomas didn’t sit there allowing a big ugly to get their hands on him. He either met them or knifed through/around them to make the tackle.
I just wish we’d be more creative and we were the one’s punching the opponent in the mouth as opposed to sitting back and getting our butts kicked.
This all goes on the HC's shoulders
The style of play is conservative on a whole. CRN will not let the defense be aggressive because the risk is that it may allow for big plays. As we all know, the offense is not designed to play catch up. The defense is designed for containment and disruption, not for aggression, because the offense can’t bail it out…
Of course, it looks like this defense allows for big plays anyway. I’m always for the aggressive defense, as long as the secondary is solid.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Up until Cal
I’d say we had done a decent job of preventing the big play, we were just getting methodically worn down. Now that we are giving up the big play and putting the pressure on our DBs anyway, I think it is now fair to wonder whether just getting aggressive with our front 7 is the way to go.
I agree
The style of play is just not inspiring. I feel like he’s just telling the kids to not f%ck up, and that’s not a motivating style at all. Yes, it is rather important to make a bowl game, but I’d rather have him tell the players to go all out, do what they can, be aggressive, and it’s ok if you screw up because we’re trying to win. The team needs a change of mentality and it starts at the top.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
+1
“The team needs a change of mentality and it starts at the top.” EXACTLY! THANK YOU TASSER10.
To the point intelligent analysis, THANK YOU jtthirtyfour. You are THE MAN.
…“frankly I don’t think they’d understand all the details. We have to keep working at it, no excuses.”
No Excuses—- YOU"RE DAMNED RIGHT.
Coach, football is not rocket science, so on the former, you’re either upset (understandable) or oblivious to the LOVE, DEVOTION, & KNOWLEDGE of your fan base.
Everyone posting here wants you to succeed, so I sincerely hope the former. We don’t want to hear Rose Bowl after game apologizes anymore than you want to give them.
BTW: UCLA = HEART. You can hear from far and near the Mighty Bruin roar!
Agree with you BlueReign
I don’t understand why we don’t just a guy with the intent of putting him down for the count. I think under Dorrell they were teaching the guys to go for the strip as opposed to going for the tackle. Maybe they’re still doing this? I don’t know. Sounds simple enough to me. You meet the ball carrier, hit him so hard he wishes he was back inside his momma.
After our 3 losses, I don’t know anything anymore.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
Great job jtthirtyfour
I’d much rather read posts like this ALL DAY . . . but I guess I should actually get back to work. Thanks and keep ‘em comin’!
Thanks a lot jthirtyfour,
especially for the chance to look again carefully at the play where Bosworth ended up chasing Best, something that boggled my mind at the time. I still don’t understand it fully, but it is clear that we were sure in our own minds that they would run on 1st down. I also agree with the general proposition that we should be playing downhill, as beeru expressed it. Working your feet while waiting to be blocked is not playing defense at all.
Nice post
On the Best pass play it seems clear by Bosworths immediate reaction that he was responsible for the coverage on the back coming out to the weak side. I give credit to Cal for recognizing that Bosworth was perhaps being aggressive on first down “spilling” as you said. With the play flowing right it put Bosworth essentially in 1 on 1 coverage where he is overmatched in speed. Even if Rahim helps on this it should still go for 20-30 yards. Only way to stop it , in that coverage, is if Bosworth was more conservative, but even then it would be a tough assignment as you pointed out.
The other thing I noticed on that play was that the WR at the bottom of the screen (L) is wide open on the post route. Looks like Riley had choices but the play was clearly designed to have Best exploit the LB. Again, great post. Fun stuff.
Agree with Tasser
This D is designed to keep us close for 3 quarters, and hopefully give us a chance to make a game of it in the 4th. That IMO is a defeatist attitude!!
“WE ARE THE MIGHTY BRUINS” and there is nothing " MIGHTY’ in that brand of football.
I am for changing our Mantra from " relentlessly positive" to “ATTACKING RELENTLESSLY”
Coach believe in your kid’s, they might just surprise you!!

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