Prince to start at OSU, Brehaut to play
by bruinponcho on Oct 26, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
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Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
Just saw this in the LA Times blog. Just as CRN handled the Carroll-twitter incident, it appears that he is handling this situation well. Here is the statement from CRN:
"We studied the tape, and I talked with Norm, and we decided that Kevin would be the starter this week," Neuheisel said. "But I asked that Richard get some playing time the final five weeks. He has merited getting playing time."
Adding some fuel to those who see CNC (not me) as one of the problems our uninspired offense, it appears that the decision to stick with Prince has been from CNC.
As for the decision to start Prince, Neuheisel said, "Norm has been in the meetings with those kids, and he believes Kevin is the best bet for us as it stands currently. I don’t disagree."
I remember in the summer there was a quote from CNC alluding to his belief that Prince could challenge for a Heisman by the time he is done at UCLA. I know CNC prides himself and his built his reputation on grooming high quality quarterbacks, but I hope his commitment to Prince is truly because Prince is, in Chow's eyes, significantly better than Brehaut and not because Chow doesn't want to look wrong on his prediction. Meanwhile, it looks like CRN is going to look for using Brehaut during the game next week. More after the jump.
I couldn't agree more with CRN's view of the situation.
Yet Neuheisel said he is locked into using Brehaut during the game. Chow’s philosophy has been against multiple-quarterback situations.
"We have two young quarterbacks, and we’d like to see them both develop," Neuheisel said. "It’s time Richard gets some chances."
I understand the whole arguments against using multiple quarterbacks, but if one of your boats is sinking, it is foolish to just ride it down to the bottom because you think that jumping into another boat might be marginally worse.
Here's hoping that both Prince and Brehaut play well in practice this week and perform against OSU this Saturday. I think we would all love to have a quarterback controversy as the result of their mutual success than their mutual failure.
Go Bruins!
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CNC & KP
I feel like CNC is just waiting for that one game for KP to break out and see the lightbulb turn on. Personally, I thought that was going to happen this past week. I will be very interested to see how they work RB into the game and if they will wait for KP to screw up, or if RB will have certain packages designed for him.
by hicalliber on Oct 26, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully RB has a package
The way CRN seems to be approaching this would suggest to me that it will be predetermined when RB will get in. Maybe KP plays the first 2 drives and then RB comes in for the third. If RB plays well, maybe he stays in for another drive. It is a very delicate issue because you don’t want to ruin KP’s confidence. However, if KP starts out slow and RB plays well, I think you just ride him as long as you can. Either way, as long as CRN is showing a commitment to the future and towards playing to win the game by playing either RB or KP instead of Craft, I think most of us will be happy.
by bruinponcho on Oct 26, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting for that very same "Lightbulb"...
to shine brother!
I’m just hoping KP’s bulb isn’t Low Wattage! Some QB’s just aren’t D-1 material.(Just ask ex UCLA helmsmen Jimmy Bonds, Bethyl MacCloud and or Osaar Raashan!)
Corvallis will be a tough place for that light to shine. Who knows, maybe with lowered expectations will come less pressure and KP will just go out and play FB!
Here’s hoping.
Either way, I’m behind them 100%.
by GogetemBruins on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brehaut
I don’t know how many plays he’s had this year, but it hasn’t been all that many. I think it might make a difference if he knows in advance that he’s going to have at least X number of plays. Maybe he won’t press. Maybe he’ll be relaxed and get some rhythm.
I also remember seeing his rating coming in by the scouting services, and he was compared to other high school QB’s who I’ve seen and who were impressive. Obviously the college game is a teensy bit different from the high school game, but he obviously has some skills. I would like to see what he can do in a game. Maybe give him a whole quarter, which is at least one or two series.
by Fox 71 on Oct 26, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PRINCE? BREHAUT? BREHAUT? PRINCE?
in the end we need what we really need is a team that can catch passes and tackle…that goes a long way to win…
by bruincheerleader on Oct 26, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Catching passes
will make our quarterbacks look significantly better. There are more problems than the receivers, but they just aren’t helping the qb situation at all right now.
by captainqtp on Oct 26, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowered expectations? Prince? Brehaut?
Expectations are huge for the QB whether your 11-1 or 1-11. If your putting all your offensive problems on a freshmans shoulders I can’t see why our QB’s won’t be crushed by the pressure. Neither of these guys are good enough (right now) to carry a bad team and they shouldn’t be exptected to. But…that’s football! It’’s all about the QB.
by BruinAl on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the coaches and we BRUIN fans had ...
“Unrealistic” expectations for this year considering a RS freshman QB and newbies on O-line. I don’t think anyone fore saw the terrible job of our receivers! Our defense isn’t too bad, It’s just not good enough to trade our FG’s for opposing teams TD’s. I agree the team as a whole is out of sync!
All I know is that based on the last 4 games and the strength of the Pac 10 this year, reality has dictated that indeed this team has obviously “Lowered” its expectations!
With that out of the way, MAYBE KP and Co. will feel less pressure and perform better. Maybe they will self destruct under the dissapointment. Who knows!!!
I’m still hoping to see the light go on this weekend. It could happen.
by GogetemBruins on Oct 26, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone...
…anyone just needs to step up and execute. If the QB is making the right read and throwing the ball well but the pass is dropped because Stonehands, errr Rosario, drops it then that is on the WR, not the QB. If the QB is making the wrong reads and bad decisions then that is on the QB.
Craft is to be commended for the beating he took last year and picking himself up off the ground as much as he had to. However, Craft is not the future of the program, KP or RB are. I trust that the coaches will stick with whomever executes within the confines of the offense.
I also expect the one that does not win the starting job next year to transfer out.
UCLA - Champions Made Here
by seernst on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know some people on BN
are really zeroed in on the QB thing and are eager for Brehaut to get some meaningful playing time. That’s fine with me. It certainly can’t do much harm. I hope any QB that gets in the game has a good day. But I have seen many drives killed by dropped passes, failure to pick up blitzes, poor route-running, and stupid penalties. Many of those things have happened time and again. My point is not that we don’t need better play by the quarterback; we do, but our problems on offense go a lot further than who is under the center. A lot of people need to get better at their jobs.
by ReineSeite on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What struck me as particularly maddening
was during the broadcast on Saturday after yet another false start, Washington’s talking about “And that’s what a a young offensive line will lead to.”
The ref them comes on the mike:
“False Start, 86 Offense, 5 Yards.”
There is no excuse for Logan Paulsen committing bonehead, drive-killing penalties. He’s a senior. He had at least two line penalties on Saturday. Just inexcusable.
by CAJason80 on Oct 26, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much has XSF been flagged this year?
I can’t imagine it’s been any more frequent than our veterans, which, as you say, is inexcusable.
by Tydides on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously this is coming from me watching at a distance
but I would say that XSF has maybe been our best offensive player this year. He’s really impressed me. Franklin is probably the offensive MVP right now, but XSF may be 2nd.
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prince Has Not Been the Same Since the Injury
AND not one of our QB’s has gotten decent support from his O ’mates.
Reine is right. Surely, you can’t fault a QB when a receiver runs the wrong route, gives up on a route or drops a touchdown pass.
We could bring back Aikman or Cade and it would not make a difference if these things keep happening.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Oct 26, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Take it for what it's worth
"That is the worst thing that could happen is to have a deal like that," Chow told the Los Angeles Times, referring to a change at quarterback. "Prince didn’t play well. I have never played with a freshman quarterback before. That’s the situation we’re in. Most kids get two years before they have to do this job."
I found this on Bruingold.com, so I’m not sure which LA times article these quotes came from, or if they’re even accurate. However, if they are in fact accurate, they could go a LONG way in explaining our quarterback (or even offensive) woes. These quotes, coupled with the ones above, paint a picture of an offensive coordinator that is choosing experience over young talent, despite having chosen it for 6 games straight without much results. It seems clear to me to RN wants Brehaut to play while NC wants Prince to play.
Maybe there’s something to Carroll’s twitter comment after all (not that it excuses it in anyway).
It also makes it clear that NC has complete control of the offense (for the most part) just as RN had stated when he hired him.
To a lesser extent, it suggests that Chow’s scheme is more complex than was previously thought, as I recall seeing a couple posts here (after NC’s hire) on BN that outlined his offensive philosophy and commended it for its simplicity. However, this contrasts with the quotes I posted wherein he is essentially saying that it takes 2 years for a player to understand his offense.
by OutOThsWrld on Oct 26, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait two years???
If Chow really believes that most kids have to wait two years, then Craft would still be starting, no? It seems to me that CRN and CNC believe Brehaut is the future but CNC believes firmly that Prince is the best option right now. However, he just hasn’t been the same since the injury. Maybe he should see a sports pysch, if it’s a mental barrier he needs to overcome
by EdO'B3017 on Oct 26, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think chow is speaking specifically in regard to his system
but rather generally in regard to being a ready, productive, successful college quarterback in any system and at any school. That is, generally, it takes a true phenom* and/or great talent surrounding him for a freshman QB to succeed (and luck and schedule, etc.). The Bruins offense is young and inexperienced all around. They’re not physically, emotionally or mentally as mature as their competition right now.
*For example, even Jimmy Clausen had a rough start to his college years. He was surrounded by a young offense and an ineffectual line, and even the defense was weak. And that was with Notre Dame’s recruiting power. And the schematic advantage of Charlie Weis :D
by aenzo on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter anymore
who starts at QB. Prince? Craft? Brehaut? Crissman? Can Nottingham enroll NOW? maybe he can get some reps in (j/k, of course)….hmmm….well…..maybe not…
The question is “Who’s going the catch the ball?” Somebody needs to read Keyshawn’s book and demand CRN/CNC to ’Give Me The Damn Ball!!!!!!!!! Well, maybe just read the cover and not the whole book.
We haven’t had any decent WR since Danny Farmer. I’m willing to settle for half-a JJ Stokes or half-a Kevin Jordan at this point.
by EdO'B3017 on Oct 26, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
in addition...
Class of 66 already mentioned that Cade or Troy Aikman would have crappy numbers throwing to receivers who can’t receive. They’d also have a tough time with only having half a second before a defensive player is in their face or on their back.
by AZBruin on Oct 26, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Translation:
The season is lost, and we’re now in an extended try-out to see who will start next year and who will transfer to Idaho St. Any snaps for Craft are lost experience for the freshman and RS freshman.
by BoltDaddy on Oct 26, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes but ...
If we throw out all of our expectations and watch the team dynamics evolve it will give us a lot of insight into the talents of CRN and CNC. This could be an interesting season for studying these coaches.
by JonnyG on Oct 26, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I read the quote
when CRN said Kevin is going to start, I honestly thought it meant Craft, thinking KP had been benched last week. They say they don’t want to kill his confidence, but he’s been benched both the games he’s played in post-injury. How do they expect him NOT to fear being benched again this week?? In my mind…
Play it safe = KC, Play for the future = KP and RB
It seems like they cannot decide what direction to take the season in. sigh
by kidro2001 on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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