Where do we go from here?
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
This is a relentlessly positive look at this past game, so please bear with me here.
Am I upset? Of course.
Am I confused? Yep.
Am I going to kill myself? Nope.
Is this the end of the season? If you're asking that question, get out of here.
Should we hang Craft and eat his remains for lunch? Wow, that's messed up, go get counseling.
In this game, UCLA was outplayed for roughly 34 minutes, give or take a few situations. But those other minutes were hard fought, grind it out, leave it all on the field minutes. I hate the idea of thinking that UCLA threw this game, or didn't show up to play, because they didn't. What we saw was UCLA going up against a team that was stronger, faster, and better. 9/10 times, you'll lose that game. On the other hand, UCLA got what was expected, a heavy dose of Gerhart, and a Phenom QB, who well, is a Freshman. Then on offense, did more than what was asked of them, moving the ball in very crucial situations. However, I might be too positive.
UCLA was outworked for 34 minutes. Which, unless we're an offensive Juggernaut, is never a good way to win games. UCLA isn't an offensive juggernaut.
Let's take a rundown of stats:
1st Downs: UCLA 20, Stanford 20
Total Yards: UCLA 301, Stanford 373
Passing: UCLA 204, Stanford 198
Rushing: UCLA 97, Stanford 175
Turnovers: UCLA 0, Stanford 1
Penalties: UCLA 6-59, Stanford 7-48
Possession: UCLA 25:48, Stanford 34:12
Why did I highlight those two? Here's why.
The difference between UCLA's offense and Stanford's offense was 72 yards. There were 81 yards between UCLA and a win granted a few awesome plays from the Offense. The difference in penalties was 11 yards....
Let's let that soak in for a while...
Welcome back. Wow... I'm just going to keep the sunny side up here.
UCLA got outworked, but didn't quit. UCLA got outplayed, but didn't quit. UCLA got out-disciplined, but didn't quit. UCLA got out-coached (I guess), but didn't quit. UCLA was down by three possessions, but didn't quit. UCLA saw their defense get owned, but didn't break down on offense. UCLA's offense didn't turn the ball over, performed well in some clutch situations.
Now, I'll try to put it all into perspective. (Clears throat)
UCLA went on the road to face a focused, tested, and much improved Stanford team. Stanford came right up, and punched the Bruins in the mouth, but the Bruins didn't back off right away, forcing a turnover right off the bat. The offense came up with a mediocre, but productive drive to start. I hope I'm not the only one that felt like the rest of the game just kind of blurred away... which is a bad thing, because I remember good games vividly. I'll go to my main points.
Penalties kill
Maybe not in yardage so much, but in major situations. I can recall several times in which Stanford was in some sort of hole, or was about to go 3 and out, and then UCLA decides to mess themselves up. It's so frustrating to watch, I don't even want to know what it's like to be playing in a game where someone makes a mental mistake bad enough to completely change the result of a drive, or quarter, or half, or game.
The Defense isn't bad, Gerhart is just really good
I don't want to hear it, but I guess you could argue that. The D-Line wasn't dominated entirely, but it was more or less like a stalemate. Watch some of the replays, there wasn't so much of a surge on the O-Line as it was a stop, Gerhart is just really crazy good. At the end of the day, the stats reflect just a beast-mode performance from an elite Running-Back. No wonder they owned Washington, and no wonder they beat UCLA, Gerhart is just that good.
Brehaut isn't the answer to UCLA's prayers.
Going to reference what some people were asking for, thanks Old time RTT for this:
- The Rule Against 2QB Systems. With only two exceptions, 2QB systems should be avoided like the bird flu.
- The Evaluation Period Exception. A 2QB system may be temporarily necessary to evaluate the available talent in game situations to determine which QB should be the long term starter. The evaluation period should be as short as possible and should under no circumstances last longer than four or five games.
- The Waffle Exception to the Epinephrine Exception. You only get one shot of epi, and it should only be used with well-established starters whose confidence will not be shattered by the substitution. Beware of the temptation to use it with recent winners of a quarterback duel. If you absolutely must change your mind once a "final" decision has been made on a duel, YOU CANNOT DO IT AGAIN. If you yank your first "final answer" QB because he’s melted down, he’ll no longer be a viable option, so stick with his replacement as long as he’s anywhere in the vicinity of competent.
Credit for this game even being close goes to Mr. Craft. He was animated, if you didn't see it. He did all that he possibly could.
I'm going to call out all the Craft Haters here, bold move I know, but let me ask you this, does it makes sense to put in a true freshman QB who has taken 2 snaps all year in a two possession game with a swarming Stanford Defense opposing him, in probably the most crucial game in recent UCLA-PAC 10 history?
The ignorance to facts on their behalf also got me steamed; at the point where the barking came he was something ridiculous like 11-15.
That added to the point about why I hate open threads.
Sure, you could say it was inevitable that UCLA would have to go deep eventually, and Brehaut has the better YPT, but come on, think about what you're asking for.
Mentally, the Halftime turnaround was an absolute miracle
UCLA was going for late fouls, missed routes, botched trick plays, just to name a few. Not only did it cost a starter, but basically the game. Generally, the culture behind the second half was, let's just play football, and UCLA did just that. They went back to basics, and responded well with a few defensive stands and a few good drives. If you really want to be an optimistic Bruin, you should be proud at this turn of events. On the other hand, you should be pissed at the fact that UCLA can't do it for 2 halves. For one, Stanford is just good. Secondly, UCLA's defense had a half on half off day from the get go. I figured it was inevitable that UCLA would lose this game at half time, but UCLA played so well to battle back that I can't help but feel proud.
Call me crazy, but Locke is bionic.
Short and sweet, the best way to keep someone from making an impact on the game is to not let that person touch the ball. Locke heard all week that Owusu was essentially the greatest player in the history of the world, and he just chuckled, and said, bye-bye ball.
Yep, it was optimistic, but hey, UCLA was overmatched, and played a bad game for 34 minutes. And again, unless you can score at will, which UCLA can't do just yet, you are going to lose those games 9/10 times.
So buckle down Bruin fans, we're going to have a battle in this conference, and it's up to the players on whether they want to roll over and get spit on, or fight back, bRUIN some dreams for PAC 10 titles, and get to that bowl game.
Go Bruins
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Great post
Now my question for you is how can we fix the penalty issues? Seems like we have been talking about for the entire first quarter of the season. Now despite two weeks we still have the same problem. Can we blame this on youth? Lack of experience? Lack of focus or preparation? That’s what is so frustrating to me.
Like you said
Focus. Focus. Have staring contests in practice, do the Bruin Shuffle video bit before and after practice, make them do up downs every time they do something dumb, anything!
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
LOL
Your point about half time turnaround was a good one. However, its bugging me inside how lukewarm our offense looked in our first two drives during Q3.
Look at what the offense is composed of
I think everyone has kind of forgot that this offense isn’t all inclusive, super crazy. Again, just because we were 3 and 0 doesn’t mean everything solved itself in those weeks where we lost a starting QB.
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Could not agree with this more
We didn’t have a barn burning offense even when Prince is in there. Now remove portions of the playbook because of Craft’s limitations and you’ve got an offense that has some problems. Now remember what this offense looked like last year. The conclusion: We are still limited offensively, and after last year this isn’t particularly surprising.
At this point a little of everything, Nestor
but if these silly penalties keep occurring towards the end of the year, then I would lean less on the lack of experience and youth factors and more towards the lack of focus and preparation factors. The latter factors you’ve gotta pin on coaching.
Another small point: SUC year in and year out is one of the most penalized teams in the Pac 10. Obviously our margin for error is much slimmer than theirs, right now.
by godblesstyus95 on Oct 4, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Penalties
Defensive 3rd down penalties are adding up. Anyone have a tally on how many drives we would have ended w/o shooting ourselves in the foot. Seems like every game, there have been a few.
Gerhert is good, maybe even great. But on more than a few plays our tackling made him look like a super star.
Defensive personal fouls are inexcusable, but on offense
Penalties are inevitable. The trick is having an offense that isn’t entirely crippled by a single penalty on a drive.
SC is heavily penalized. So is Texas Tech. Doesn’t really matter for them. If we have to rely on perfection, we will not win too many games against decent opponents.
I love craft
He’s tough, he’s smart, and he’s got guts, but when you’re behind by 3 scores you need to be able to throw beyond 20 yards. It isn’t anti-Craft, it’s just that he can’t throw long, and we needed to throw long.
Yep
I think you and I feel the same way here. I have nothing but admiration for what Craft has given us in these tough rebuilding years. However, I want to see what Brehaut can do.
Hear! Hear!
Listen, no one respects Craft more than me. I couldn’t take the pounding he has. However, that respect does not preclude me wanting to see what else we have in the toy store. Nor does it prevent me from being honest in my assessment (however naive). I’m not calling for his benching so much as I’m asking to see what Brehaut has. Craft has shown us what he is able to do. I think Brehaut should have the same opportunity and not waste an entire season on one measly, meaningless series.
Redshirt Brehaut
At this point in time, I’d rather have the coaching staff RS Brehaut. Craft can be a serviceable #2 once Prince returns, and we really shouldn’t have this 2 QB debate the rest of the year.
I feel that if we don’t RS Brehaut, might cause QB controversy come next yr, plus we lack QB depth after Prince leaves and worse case is having Brehaut in the same number of years!
This is a rebuilding year, and Brehaut is the heir apparent to Prince. Leave it at that so Brehaut can be a redshirt freshman next yr instead of a 2nd yr QB ala Prince.
It's too late
to redshirt Brehaut this year. Of course he could redshirt next year, if Crissman turns out to be good enough to be the back up, though that’s a big if.
by SuperBruinMan on Oct 4, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
ya
Prince’s redshirt has already been burned, you could petition it, but since he already has 40 yards, I doubt they’ll let that happen
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I see this title
and I think of the song from the movie version of Evita.
“Where do we go from here…
Losing to Stanford isn’t where we intended to be
We were 3-0, we believed it could be…
The Bruin Faithful believed in you…
Dumb penalties must disappear
In order for our improvement to survive
And to keep our drives alive
Just like we used to…
Deep in my heart I was believing
An undefeated season was on the way
Scared of that losing feeling
Now frightened the good will slips away…
Still love… the Bruins.
Still love… the Bruins.
Always there, in the stands
Watching every single play
Give us some hope and we’ll let you see how
Faithful we will be.
Love… U…C…L…A…
Of course, I did spend a few hours in the sun with other fellow Bruins, screaming, stomping, clapping, so my mind may be a bit warped.
Although not a 'Craft-Hater' [ad hominem'ish?],
More important than 11 of 15? 6 points. That’s great that his personal stats were impressive up to that point. Unfortunately, they, along with the running game, had resulted in two field goals. Two. Through 45 minutes.
And your two QB commandments? When your starting QB is down for an estimated two games, you don’t have the luxury of ‘four or five’ to figure out who the better backup is. That’s why, when you’re down by three scores heading into the final quarter, I say you get a little buck wild and put the new kid in…..see what he can do. He may have stunk the place up, but (i) we’d go ‘Oh, that’s why he wasn’t playing’ and, (ii) we lost anyway.
The potential payoff, however, is that maybe he creates that spark. Heck, maybe him and Thigpen start a friggin’ forest fire. But I don’t think you come across many better situations to play the guy whose redshirt is already burned with little pressure (if we lose, we were losing by three scores anyway).
The mentality of ’he’s not losing the game for us, so lets just ride this pony to a second place finish in a two-horse race’ is baffling. Brehaut was one of the top 10 QB’s in the nation. Enrolled early. Looked good in spring/fall practice. Is perfect in the only chance he’s received. And he doesn’t even warrant a single snap in a game we’re already headed towards losing?
Headed to lose?
You seriously think that it’s smart to pull your starter when you have a shot to win the game on the final drive to put in a freshman? UCLA was 81 yards away! It’s not like it wasn’t close or anything.
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by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 4, 2009 8:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh
Well still, who are you going against? Only Guru Norm. I’ll trust this guy’s decision any day. Plus, what if Prince isn’t back next week, and Brehaut stinks it up? Craft gets a big ol’ loser sticker, and Brehaut is sucking his thumb
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Well, if you're just going to default to 'I Trust Norm'
then the debate is over.
But with regard to your second question: These are big boys. Craft has already been supplanted by a RS Freshman QB. I think his psyche would be ok.
But seriously
Look at the past situations, Matt Moore just to name one from UCLA, and then Jonathan Crompton last year, he came back to lose to Wyoming! Just honoring the past, although I do agree that these guys are very tough mentally to say the least.
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Well, we ARE playing Oregon....
so chances are with you that your prediction would come true….whether or not playing Brehaut was the root cause [see my comments below].
3-1
with KAl looking terrible makes this saturday at home against Oregon another huge opportunity. We have the ability to be smarter on defense and more aggressive on offense. Let’s see if Chow/Bullough/RN figure it out. If we go with the base defense/field position/field goals will win the game for us mentality we are doomed.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
I dunno
Oregon is much better in all phases of the game especially defense, and the spread offense had already gotten to our d
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Maybe the Utah game has scarred me for life
but I don’t believe we are able to win any game against an average or better spread offense. Hell, K-State ran a spread-like-ish offense and we struggled against them and their shuffle passes. I chalk Oregon up as a loss.
I'll go over
I’m making a podcast specifically devoted to how to stop Oregon. Doing some research, and past experience. It doesn’t look too good.
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
Rock on brother. Debate all in good spirit!
Appreciate your taking the time to create the posts / podcasts in the first place and creating the environment to have these discussions.
Thanks
Ya, just all good sport when it comes to argument right?
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Agreed on your point re: Brehaut
As intriguing as it is to a lot of us here to see what he can do, I don’t think at any point of the Stanford game is the appropriate time for Brehaut to audition. Brehaut had his audition in preseason workouts, and presumably again in the few days after the Tenn. game. I am going on the premise that his audition didn’t impress CRN/Chow enough to play him over the more experienced, but less talented, Craft.
I believe we win that game had we been more fundamentally sound in the other facets of the game, even with Craft in there.
A few things you overlooked
Our wide receivers were putrid. I can’t pile on Craft because guys broke off routes , ran the wrong route and just weren’t where they were supposed to be. It seemed to me that our only talent advantage was on the outside and that was negated by the penalties and the score. Secondly, what was Craft doing sitting in the pocket in the 4th quarter? His footwork in the pocket is statue like. All his good throws came on the move, so I had trouble with that play calling. All that said, I liked the fact the team fought to the very end. You have to credit Stanford. We did not lose to a dog food team. They are very good and will finish in the upper echelon in the conference. Where will we be going? We better figure it out quick because here come the Ducks…
Something me and Rye talked about
Craft is a Shotgun QB, with the mind of a dry-erase board. When he starts noticing he can throw on the move to a one-routed WR, he goes, “Ooh, that was fun!” and he forgets all about his great Shotgun poise. Looking back, the best games that he had were when he was in the Shotgun for extended periods of time (more than 8 plays). He has trouble making reads while moving, plain and simple. The only time that he has good throws on the run is when the guy is basically the only option to throw to.
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
Penalties are about reputation and gamesmanship
Referees are human (read, not that smart).
1. They’re not in a vacuum. They read newspapers. They know reputations. If they think a team is “supposed” to win, they buy into that narrative. Think about all the phantom touchdowns SUC “scored” over the years against us. Part of it is the narrative, and part is the gamesmanship. Read below.
2. Penalties are about gamemanship. Didn’t Jordan get every call, no matter what happened. Remember how Magic used to hook the guy who was guarding him, then spin around him, throw up a wild shot and get a call every time. In baseball, if Wade Boggs didn’t swing at the pitch, they’d call it a ball. It’s gamesmanship and reputation.
3. There are penalties committed on every play. I guarantee you if you broke down film, you’d see holding on EVERY play. Yet they only call certain ones. I believe you can coach a hold on every play as long as you do a good job disguising it.
4. Don’t lose your cool. We get called for a lot of personal fouls that are shots to the head. This is unnecessary. I don’t remember who it was, but a Bruin absorbed a helmet to helmet shot that knocked his helmet off, but the Stanford player didn’t make a big show of the hit and there was no call.
5. One reason I dislike football is that unless you are vastly superior to the other team, I personally believe that refs decide a majority of the games with their arbitrary calls. CRN needs to coach the team on how to get away with committing them in a way that works to our advantage and how to sucker refs into calling penalties that haven’t been committed. Gamesmanship wins games. If you’re not cheating, you not trying, and it’s only cheating if you get caught. Unfortunately, that’s the reality that the Bruins haven’t learned yet.
Right now, CRN has so many things to teach the team. Just the basics of running, passing and blocking. We’ve got a young, inexperienced team. We don’t have a culture of winning there yet. It takes time to build up a dynasty, to build up a system. I don’t think we’ll ever get to the point where we can just impose our will on the other team and the refs, but we can definitely more competitive, and when we do, we will get some more calls. Until then, close your eyes and take your punishment
craft???
in my eyes craft is giving everything he has … a true bruin warrior.
my question is … does craft have the physical tools needed to play qb in the pac-10? regardless of what writers west of the rockies think the pac-10 plays outstanding football … check nfl rosters. to be competitive in the pac-10 you need a qb that can keep defenses honest with a consistent passing game that can hit the medium and occasional deep pass. i think one of the best attributes of kevin prince is his ability to throw these passes … with accuracy and zip. since last season craft has demonstrated his inability to complete these types of passes. the result is a game plan that is ultra-conservative that plays not to lose games.
i have no idea if brehaut is the answer but our leader has mentioned more than once the kid should get a little pt. since they burned brehaut’s redshirt season i would have liked to see him get a few series.

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