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Shame On UCLA Students/Alums/Fans Who Didn't Show Up Yesterday

Shame on current UCLA students who consider themselves Bruin sports fan. Saturday's announced attendance was at 46,151. The Rose Bowl looked sad on television and our student section looked like a total joke. Embarrassing really. Any one who considers himself or herself a UCLA sports fan (especially the clowns who live on or around campus) ought to feel humiliated today. This also goes for the alums and so called fans in Southern California who can be found after moments like Gonzaga tournament game jumping around and claiming to bleed blue and gold. Way to show up and support the team on Senior Day on what was one of the biggest win for the program in recent years. Just pathetic. GO BRUINS.

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You are 100% correct.

Tom Skalman '84
Las Vegas

by tskal on Nov 22, 2009 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

it was embarrassing

yes, but at the same time you have to think about how hard it is for students to get out to the game seeing that most of them don’t have cars on campus. Plus, it is getting really close to finals and everything is due right about now, so some students have different priorities than the sporting fanatics who actually understand the importance of this game. Weirdly, after the game I was stuck in traffic for the longest time I’ve ever been in after a game…Hopefully our presence will be felt a little bit more at the Coliseum next week.

"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden

by robdog502 on Nov 22, 2009 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

Those are joke excuses

Finals are not after thanksgiving and we never let Finals get in the way to attend $C games (scheduled right around that week).

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

It was terrible – just terrible. And it was not only this game, but homecoming as well. The overall attendance for that game was much better, but the student section looked about the same as it did yesterday. Pathetic.

by Westwooden1 on Nov 22, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

it wasn't homecoming

Homecoming was vs Washington. Remember the throwback unis??

by insomniacslounge on Nov 22, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Not homecoming

But “Senior Day” which IMHO is just as big deal.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I know it wasn't....

I am just saying that the student section at the homecoming game was just as empty at that game as it was in the game yesterday. I should have written……..The student section looked about the same yesterday as it did a couple of weeks ago for the homecoming game.

by Westwooden1 on Nov 22, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

My mistake

Reading comprehension error on my part. This is what happens when I get all high and mighty before noon.

by insomniacslounge on Nov 22, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounding like a rather pathetic showing by the students, et al.

Hell, I didn’t have a car while I was at UCLA, and never seemed to have a problem making it to the Rose Bowl. And if I recall, finals are at least a couple of weeks away, so the end of quarter rush should not be much of a factor in attendance.

by bruinhoo on Nov 22, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh ... and we have freaking buses

taking students to games … if someone goes to UCLA … I’d think he or she is smart enough to be resourceful and figure out a way to get to the game. Not having cars wasn’t an excuse I heard back in the day for not going to games. Again just joke excuses and anyone making them today should be embarrassed.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

dude

I’m not making excuses for people, I’m just being objective and saying why some people would not be there. I was definitely there, so I was not contributing to the lack of attendance. Personally, I would rather not have bandwagon fans at games, and if they can’t make being a Bruin their number one priority I don’t want them there, but frankly that is the truth. Kids around campus seriously study all day, every day. If I didn’t have sporting events I would go crazy, and I try to go to all of them that I possibly can.

"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden

by robdog502 on Nov 22, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Not directed at you Rob

We just don’t want to hear excuses about students not making to the game. There is none (and the ones offered are lame and predictable).

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

ah

yeah I agree, I get where you are coming from.

"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden

by robdog502 on Nov 22, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

of course

THANK YOU for going to the game.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

One day those kids who study all day will realize that the student experience is mor than just books.

Not saying that studying is not important, but it is also important to be well-rounded, and be able to talk about other topics in the workplace when the boss asks about the “big game.”

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It has ALWAYS been that way.

That didn’t stop students from going to the games when I was there (87-91 CFB seasons). No excuses. Students will be kicking themselves 10 or 20 years from now if, like many alums, they live on the East Coast or in the Midwest and would cut off a finger to be able to go to every game.

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

the reason you

were stuck in traffic for so long is probably because of all the people who show up and tailgate but don’t actually enter the rose bowl for the game. On TV the parking lots and golf courses looked completely filled. By the way it also made me sick when i saw the rose bowl that empty. Unfortunately I had to leave town last weekend to visit the in-laws in Colorado. I was lucky enough to find a channel the would show the game. The in-laws were kind enough to let me watch the game…they saw how important it was when my wife and I wore our true blue jerseys all around town. It kind of hurt deep in my stomach when I saw the empty seats…If I were in town there is nothing that would have kept me away…Specially on senior day.

by King J77 on Nov 22, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why I went to UCLA.....

…so I could BOAST that I attend UCLA-USC games as a student at UCLA… A UCLA student would actually contemplate MISSING this game???? C’mon Bruins, kick yourselves in the ASS and get with it…Yesterday was a critical day and this Saturday is
just HUGE …

Tom Skalman '84
Las Vegas

by tskal on Nov 22, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

It would have been just as bad against U-Dub a couple weeks ago

But UCLA shipped in thousands of school kids which were awesome because they actually started the wave a couple times. Pretty sad in there yesterday. The fans that did shoe up didn’t make it in there until mid-way through the first quarter. I was pretty bummed out for the seniors. It also effects recruiting.

Bruin-4-Life!!!

by dwdbruin on Nov 22, 2009 9:47 AM PST reply actions  

I have no idea

how many alums and their families live within a 30 mile radius of the Rose Bowl, but I’m guessing it’s enough to fill that stadium 5-fold. I’m taking a leap here in asserting that transportation and studying isn’t an issue for the vast majority of this group.

And let’s not forget the pathetic turnouts at Pauley the last couple of weeks.

Garbage.

formerly godblesstyus95

by Blue Me on Nov 22, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

Just a guess

But as UCLA becomes more difficult to get into, the students take their academics that much more seriously. When I went to UCLA we rarely went to the Rose Bowl because it was such a hassle. And it always felt like something the Greeks were into more than the regular students.

My current excuse: I’m 6’5" and those little tiny aluminum benches they call seats are torturous. But I usually go to at least one game a year to show my solidarity. And it is fun, despite the lack of adult libations.

by Charlie Potts on Nov 22, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Uh not really

UCLA was ranked number 19 in US News and World Report when we entered as freshman (91). Last I checked we are at 25 this year. The freshmen classes at that time were just as academically oriented as it has ever been. So that excuse doesn’t fly.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

From what I hear

And I don’t know, but apperantly a lot more students go home on weekends nowadays. I have no idea why you would go to ucla to go home every weekend but apparently a lot of kids do

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 22, 2009 10:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Which is just bizzarre

Considering UCLA has more dorms to house students in Westwood. Guess when they are subjected to an idiotic sports section in the Daily Bruin, their sports awareness is taking a hit. But these guys have access to the internets and the Google on campus. No?

The showing at student section yesterday was more pathetic than a high school game. These guys really ought to be ashamed of themselves.

What’s the next excuse? (silverlake this is not directed at you at all just commentary in general). Was it too cold for these students? 60 degrees too chilly for them?

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I know that I did when I was there

That’s just how it is with the students living in the dorms, especially during the first year. Students get homesick, and since more than half of the students at UCLA live within an hour or two of the campus, it’s an easy commute for them to go home. This isn’t like a college town, where most of the students come from great distances away.

During my first year, I remember going through a lot of struggles and adjustments to college life. Home for me was an hour down the 405, and I probably went home more than half of those weekends my first quarter. At that time, I needed the family connection. In later years, as I got more acclimated, I went home less frequently.

As someone else pointed out, a lot more students now live on campus, with much fewer of them living at home. 90% of the freshmen now live on campus. It was only about 60% when I was there. And in decades before that, UCLA was definitely more of a commuter campus.

by Woochifer on Nov 23, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Cue the violine

These are just sad pathetic excuse making posts.

by Nestor on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Academic standards right now are MUCH higher than before

PLEASE stop citing the much-discredited US News rankings!

Those rankings are ridiculously biased towards private schools and are based on numerous non-academic factors such as alumni giving. And the weightings and criteria used in those rankings change every year, which makes for spirited debates but certainly not a credible and comparable ranking. A lot of private schools (including $C) have been gaming the US News rankings for years, while most public schools don’t. The other rankings that use more academic criteria place UCLA higher than #25, and the rankings are higher than at the time I was there.

From the sound of things, you were at UCLA sometime during the 80s and 90s. As an alumni volunteer with 16 years of experience serving on scholarship committees and recruiting at local high schools, I can tell you that many (if not most) of us alums who frequent this board would probably not get into UCLA today.

Like it or not, the freshman classes entering UCLA nowadays are MUCH more academically prepared and oriented than those from decades past.

This year, the university expects more than 55k applications (for more than a decade running, UCLA has received the most apps of any university campus). Less than 1 in 4 will be accepted, and the average GPA for those who do get in will be 4.2+ with an average of 19 semesters worth of honors/AP classes completed, and an average SAT score of over 2,000 (out of 2,400). Over 90% of those accepted graduate in the top 10% of their high school class.

Yet, as someone else pointed out, the attendance on Saturday wasn’t all that different than it has been historically. Even during the best years of the Donahue era, the attendance for conference matchups only occasionally exceeded 60,000 and sometimes hovered down into the low 40k range. It was only when Toledo put UCLA into the national championship hunt that average attendance spiked into the 70k to 80k range.

The best way to get fans out to the Rose Bowl is to put a consistent winner on the field. That’s just how it is in L.A. When $C was in the doldrums of the Hackett regime, their attendance wasn’t all that great either. Once CRN puts together a string of winning seasons and puts the Bruins back into Rose Bowl and NC contention year after year, we won’t have to worry about attendance.

by Woochifer on Nov 23, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That's just a whole lot of BS

I went to school in the early 90s and our freshman class GPA and SAT scores were pretty much in the exact same range as you cited above. The acceptance rate was not any higher either.

Your argument that UCLA needs to put together a consistent winner to bring in students is total BS excuse for the pathetic attendance numbers that UCLA registered yesterday. Try that boilerplate BS somewhere else dude not here. Just another pathetic lame excuse filled post.

by Nestor on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Disagree x 10.

I went to just as many games before I pledged than I did as a Greek. If one doesn’t want to support his or her athletic program, he or she can go to one of many other outstanding UC schools like UCSD , UCI, etc.

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't get it

I walked in and and really I was SHOCKED. I was disappointed with the student attendance at the Washington game but I thought for sure, after winning 2 games in a row and with one of the biggest games in recent memory taking place, that more people would come out for this. At least the same, but LESS? I am totally perplexed. Last year when we were really struggling it was never this bad. I just don’t understand.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 22, 2009 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

Notre Dame at home

Season ticket numbers just for that year, then went back down after the year. Fans and brokers bought tickets just for the ND game.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I didn't go

But my tickets were used so I guess it’s a wash.

No making excuses, but it does show the need to improve the game day experience. I think a decade of mediocrity and a 5 game losing streak mid season had something to do with it as well.

The whole game day experience needs to be reevaluated and updated IMHO. Business as usual won’t get it done. Ricks doing his part, we have to do our part, but the entire culture needs to change….

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 22, 2009 10:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

That is a different discussion and important one

But still no excuses for UCLA students not showing up yesterday.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

What Is Wrong...

with the “game day experience”? Culturally speaking, one attends the game, one wears Bruin stuff, and one cares a great deal that the team on the field plays hard, very hard—and we cheer, yell and make noise at the right time. You can take away every other other aspect of “the game day experience”.

Tom Skalman '84
Las Vegas

by tskal on Nov 22, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know what's wrong with people this year!

I had to work yesterday and I spent the entire week trying to get friends to take my tickets, which are in the second row on the 40 yard line. I was offering them for free. I heard lame excuses from everyone I asked. I finally got someone to take them on Friday night, but I thought I might have to post an offer to give them to someone here on BN. I am still pissed about it. If any of my friends (all former classmates) ask me for tickets when CRN and the team are kicking ass next year they can bite me.

by bruin_2K on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

The best of the excuses

Is that we’ve had too many 12:30 and/or 1 o’clock starts this season. It just makes the day start too early. If you’re taking the buses into the game, they leave around 10 am. Same thing if you’re planning on driving to the Rose Bowl and tailgate. I got there a little bit after 10 and was dragging all day. I was talking to some of the folks in Lot H and most of them got there around 7 am! I can certainly appreciate why after a Friday night, some students would rather sleep in than go to the game.

And let’s be honest- while this was symbolically a big game for UCLA, an ASU-UCLA matchup in and of itself isn’t the most compelling in the world.

All of that being said, I was also disappointed in the attendance. But I wasn’t all that surprised.

by insomniacslounge on Nov 22, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

holy crap

the stadium did look fairly empty but not that much more than previous game. it’s sad cause my parents drove down from the Bay Area at 6am for that game.

by maccabita4life on Nov 22, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Disappointing attendance

I drove to the game with some friends and we were all hoping for a big crowd. When my brother and I went into the bowl and saw all the empty seats we were stunned. Great game though.

by bruinfan94 on Nov 22, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Stupid students

Lazy students. Apathetic students. I don’t know which it is.

Let me make this point very clear. I live in Northern California. I go to every Bruin football game and basketball game when they’re playing at Stanford or Cal. When I am in L.A., during the season, I hit up at least one game at the Rose Bowl or Pauley.

Why? Because I’m a Bruin. You UCLA students have no idea how freakin’ lucky you are. When I was at UCLA, I went to every home game and every basketball game I could get a ticket to. You have no idea how much I miss that stuff. Tailgating at the Rose Bowl with my roommates and my buddies. Tossing the ball around with a beer in hand, waiting to go watch our Bruins. Camping out in front of Pauley to see JF and AA tear some team down. That shit was fun. A ton of fun. It was some of the best memories I had from UCLA.

I’m a real grown-up now, with a grown-up job and all that crap. I’d trade places with any of you punks who go to UCLA and bailed on the game. There’s no excuses.

Seriously, I didn’t start at UCLA. I started at another UC school, one without Division I football or basketball. The atmosphere sucked. No one had school pride, no one went to games, no one cared (because everyone wanted to be at Cal or UCLA instead).

When I transferred to UCLA, it was a complete 180. Everyone was hardcore about UCLA. People loved their campus, loved the fact they were getting a UCLA degree, and people f**king loved UCLA. And they hated U$C.

You folks really have no idea how lucky you are to go to a UC school with a top notch athletics program, an elite basketball team, and a proud football program. That shit rounds out the perfect college experience (which, with UCLA’s elite academics, is pretty damn impressive).

I can’t tell you what Professor Symcox (history) or Professor Thompson (adjunct in polictical science) said on a particular day in either of their courses. But I can tell you exactly where I was in the Rose Bowl when the Bruins upset pre-season All-Americans Cody Pickett and Reggie Williams and the ranked Huskies. I can tell you where I was in Pauley when JF and AA, freshmen guards, nearly led the Bruins to a huge upset of highly-ranked Arizona, led by Salim Stoudemire and Hassan Adams. School is important, don’t get me wrong, but you’re going to do fine. I’m a huge sports guy and I did pretty good for myself at UCLA, so if I can do it, you can too.

NO EXCUSES. GET YOUR LAZY/APATHETIC/STUPID ASS TO EVERY GAME YOU CAN.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Good post

I think you should also mention the tens of thousands of alums still living in the area that owe their LIVELIHOOD to that diploma hanging on their wall that don’t bother showing up.

formerly godblesstyus95

by Blue Me on Nov 22, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree

Alumni who are in the greater L.A. area should be there in droves. I know if I lived in Southern California, I’d have season tickets. No excuses for nearby alum (unless they’re hospitalized, getting married that weekend, something legitimate, etc.).

Although alums need to start showing up, students really need to get out. Alumni tickets are significantly more expensive, and no one is offering a free shuttle for us to the game. Students have good ticket rates and a free damn ride to the Rose Bowl. For there to be a single available seat in the student section is absolutely inexcusable.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting married is no excuse, real fans don’t plan weddings during the fall. In fact, I’m skipping a wedding (not my own) this coming Saturday to attend the SC game.
BTW, I haven’t missed a home game since game 1 of the 1995 season – this includes a year living in the SF bay area.

by LotH sucks now on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Very nice

You’re hardcore. I’m impressed. Keep it up.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

I remember those two exact games. Usually people around here use historical sports references from before I ever hit campus. The first one was especially sweet cause for some reason my UW friends thought they were going to walk all over us at the RB. The second one wasn’t as great because I really wanted them to pull off the win to avenge the ass whipping we took the previous year. JS also started that game.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I know

We younger alum have to start throwing out our markers.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

VERY WELL SAID.

You cannot trade the well rounded UCLA student experience for anything in the world.

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The "I'm going to college" program inflated our previous attendance numbers

At all the home games except the last game against ASU, we bused in thousands of Jr. High and High School kids from the inner city. This inflated the actual attendance numbers for our other games. The number of seats occupied by these kids is roughly 2-3 times the number of seats in the student section. The combination of the above with the rather empty student section and general admission seats contributed with the season low in attendance.

by solidgoldsound on Nov 22, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

That's right

This would’ve been our average if not for all the freebies given away all year. Beyond a very core group, our fans are apathetic bandwagoners just like SC’s. And when they do go to games, they care more about the egregious Bruin Shuffle than the actual game. They add to the misery real UCLA fans have had to endure in recent years.

I’ve seen people wearing SC shirts at our gym, for F’s sake. It’s really sad.

by bluebland on Nov 22, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

If someone wore an U$C shirt into a UCLA gym

Someone needs to toss that poser out. And the entire gym should be hassling that a**hole until the shirt is gone. Period.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

For all I've heard about the feared "take off that red shirt" chant

I’ve never seen it work. People don’t care enough in the Den anymore. It’s sad.

by Centric on Nov 22, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was a student...

…the Den was relentless. Although I don’t condone it, I remember fistfights breaking out when some U$C wanker would sneak into the student section (because usually he had some stupid buddy at UCLA who gave him a ticket).

Step it up students.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing

that bothers me is people wearing any football jersey they have to a game that doesn’t involve any of those teams remotely. I saw an Alex Smith 49’s jersey, and a Joseph Addai jersey. SC trolls that show up at games really bothers me. I remember watching the homecoming game on tv and seeing this kid with an SC jersey and just thinking of beatin the crap out of him, you bring up great points and i’ve always seen this as concern but never owned up to actually posting my thoughts
Thank you

by AMM19 on Nov 22, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Now hold on a second...

…I’m not suggesting that anyone go out and commit any kind of violence. But you need to needle and hassle any jackass wearing red at the Rose Bowl. You chant, you scream, you holler, etc., and pressure them into taking it off.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of makes me wish...

…that we just had our own on-campus stadium. I know it’s never, ever going to happen, but I’d rather have our team play in a packed 40-50K capacity stadium than a half-empty Rose Bowl (even though I do really love playing there).

by JoeBruin9900 on Nov 22, 2009 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

I've noticed that in general

the amount of people who care about UCLA sports is dropping. I’m always really excited when I meet someone who actually knows what’s up with the team, whether it be basketball or football, but it seems like those people have become increasingly rarer to find. Maybe it was the Dorrell years that did this to us, but almost nobody really cares about UCLA football. Maybe it’s just my circle of friends.

I was really disappointed in seeing the student section yesterday as well. It’s been like that pretty much every game I’ve been to. I’ll admit I haven’t been number one about going to games (I’ll be missing the $C game which I wish with all my heart I could go to, but my family really wants me to come home for Thanksgiving). But as many here have said, there really aren’t very many legitimate excuses for missing games. Especially this last game.

by Centric on Nov 22, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

A lot of Bruins are clueless

I work with some and while they’re fans and go to games (which is great), a lot of Bruins have no idea what is going on with either program. There’s a lot of danger there, because UCLA fans expect championships (which we should), but without knowing the context of what’s been happening with the programs, expecting a championship from CRN or CBH these seasons would be totally unreasonable.

It makes me believe a lot of the unreasonable bullshit we hear from fellow Bruins isn’t born of arrogance or entitlement, but of outright ignorance. CRN and CBH are doing bang-up jobs, especially in light of where they had to start (both with bare programs stripped of any talent).

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah a lot of my friends

just think our football team sucks and that our basketball team is underachieving. Ignorant. So ignorant.

by Centric on Nov 22, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They'll eat their words and you can tell them I told you so...

…in the coming seasons when CRN and this young football team are competing for the conference title and a Rose Bowl berth, and CBH has this young crop of new Ben Ball Warriors going deep into March, looking for Banner # 12.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what?

Even if those two things were true, it’s still not a good enough excuse. I went to plenty of games in Pauley in 03-04. We were beaten pretty routinely and often pretty badly. What people don’t seem to get is that when you experience the lows, there’s nothing else like the highs. Fast forward to finals week of winter quarter in 06 and Gonzaga in the Sweet 16. I think you get the picture. I’d hate to think the current generation of Bruins are missing out on an opportunity to “buy low” on both of our revenue programs. There’s nothing that gives you credibility as a fan like sitting through rebuilding years and being able to talk story about the lean times with your fellow die-hards…as your team is kicking ass on a regular basis. The time to hop on the train is now, because nobody respects the last guy on the bandwagon.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said

Hel, I suffered as a student through the Walt Hazzard years.

Even the Lizard of Westwood won a few games. Pauley was a ghost town during Hazzard’s era. And yet, I still attended all the games I could, both football and basketball. It’s the complete college experience that people who don’t go to games are missing.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 22, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Man, as an econ guy...

I totally get this post, and have been urging my friends to “buy low”. good stuff.

by bruinbunz on Nov 22, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sticking through the tough times is what . . .

. . . makes the great ones that much sweeter. True fans will appreciate what is to come in the new few seasons 100 times more than the bandwagoners who don’t even know the name of the players.

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this has more to do with things six years ago than the last two or three

The fallout from people losing interest watching the teams under Lavin and Dorrell probably affected the culture surrounding our sports teams among people who are in their twenties now. If you’re a student you have no excuse, but there’s a lot of bandwagon teens and twentysomethings walking around in $C gear that could have been becoming UCLA fans earlier in the decade.

We need to represent! This can be a low point that’s in our past!

by bruin_2K on Nov 22, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I've felt that it has always been that way, Centric

Whenever I meet Bruins, I’ll make some comment about the recent game or the big game coming up and 75% of the time I’ll get a foggy expression. That’s one reason I enjoy BN so much. Here, all the Bruins feel as I do.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If I could afford to

When I was a student I went to the games. It was only $10 for student tickets, and I took my wife with. After parking it was $30 plus maybe some money for food. Now, I am in grad school and it would cost my wife and me $80 for tickets, parking, and gas. Just too much for two collegiate 22 year olds. Mark my words, I will get season tickets the day I graduate from my last degree. I just with others had the same mindset. This is gonna be a great program in the coming years.

by sponkey21 on Nov 22, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

My last home game at the rose bowl as a student.

And I have a midterm next week, but I had my priorities straight and went to this game. Also going to the USC game on Saturday to represent the blue and gold. I actually heard from some students that they are “afraid” to goto U$C’s home turf just because their “fans” are obnoxious, give me a break. Students especially, if you call yourself a UCLA fan, make it to represent and support your team.

by BruinsFTW on Nov 22, 2009 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

There's almost nothing sweeter

than beating $C in the Mausoleum. I will be the first one to admit that I do not like going to South Central’s campus. The parking and traffic situation is about 15 times worse than at the Rose Bowl and obviously you are outnumbered. It’s an ugly area and has no natural scenic beauty whatsoever.

But for everyone who was witnessed UCLA’s wins at the Mausoleum—and there have been many wins in our history, by the way—-it is a pretty incredible feeling to watch the TrOJies sneaking off to their Jaguars and such long before the game is over and to celebrate there long after the game is over.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 22, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

+100!

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I graduated this year from UCLA

And I now live in the Bay Area. I will go to every game they play up here. I went to the Stanford game this year and made it down to the Rose Bowl for the Cal game.

And this week, I’m driving down for the U$C game. I can’t wait.

Some of my best memories of college are from the Rose Bowl and there’s no excuse for not making the trip out to the Arroyo Seco. I’ll always remember exactly where I was standing when McNeal caught that ball (and where I was when I got hit with pepper spray). Most of these kids don’t truly understand the significance of gettig to play home games in the frigging Rose Bowl.

BEAT ’SC.

by inhowlandwetrust on Nov 22, 2009 2:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I don't think it has to do with apathy at all...

Rather, I think the fact that so many students missed the game is a result of a traumatic week and a focus on other aspects of our lives.
Our tuition was increased by 32%. Many of our friends will no longer be with us next year because they cannot afford it. Approximately 20 people were arrested, and about just as many were tased this week. I am still recovering from watching my friend get tased and dragged on the ground because she was peacefully protesting a decision which will likely force her to attend a cc next year.
I love UCLA football, but I love many other things much more. I love my friends, and they are depressed right now. I love my family, and they are working their asses off to pay for my education. I love my art (which is my life). And I loved the education I was receiving before my professors began cancelling class about once every other week to protest.

Simply put, I had other things on my mind yesterday…
But I do understand that the game yesterday was HUGE, and under other circumstances I would have gone… and I would have LOVED it…
And I am looking forward to plenty of amazing games in the future :)

by jatteratious on Nov 22, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Then where were all the students in previous weeks?

Student attendance at football and basketball games has been deplorable for a couple years now. If yesterday were the exception to the rule, you might have an argument, but it’s not. Awful support from the students has become the norm and excuses like this don’t hold as a result. Obviously, what happened this week has consequences and things did get ugly, but support like yesterday’s is all too familiar for all UCLA sports so I’m going to take excuse #19384 and throw it out the window.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You should read the post on this site about a true Bruin who lost a beloved family member . . .

. . . and how going to the game with his family a week later helped the healing process. There all always going to be hurdles and setbacks in life, many more devastating that the fee increase. The scenario you describe is unfortunate, but I cannot imagine a better way to make lemons out of lemonade than going to the Rose Bowl to cheer on your fellow Bruins.

by orlandobruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That's such a sorry-ass excuse

Waaaah, our tuition went up, woe are we, we are too sad to come support UCLA football.

Tuition increases aren’t traumatic, so spare me the melodrama. Tuition gets jacked up every so often. It did when I was at UCLA. It sucks, I know. I went to a UC law school, and tuition got hiked a good $10K per year. My three years of UC law school cost me about 600% (no joke either, which is the sad part) more than my four years of UC undergrad. So, really, spare me the melodrama. You’re going to take out more student loans and that will suck, but it’s not the end of the world.

And, BTW, don’t sit there and cry about “being tased” and “dragged to the ground.” If you were wronged by UCPD, then sue. If not, then shut the f**k up and hope you don’t get hooked up for resisting arrest. Trespassing is a crime, in case you forgot. Sitting in and making life difficult for people at UCLA isn’t going to make your tuition go back down. Crying about it isn’t going to help. If you want to do something, you little apathetic student goobers need to get off your a** and make some noise in Sacramento, where the purse strings are. But I doubt the student body will do that, because your the same student body too apathetic and lazy to get on to a free shuttle to the Rose Bowl for an inexpensive day of fun and entertainment.

Things are shitty for everyone in this state right now, so your little fee hike is not going to get a whole lot of sympathy. You know, it’s us taxpayers that are putting out the money to support the UC system, to support the infrastructure that allows UC to exist. We’re hit hard too, so don’t sit there are cry about how you’re getting hit up for more money, when everyone else is too.

orlandobruin brought up a great point: how UCLA sports helped some fellow Bruins get through very hard times.

Rye is right. Thanks for excuse # 19384, but try again. You go to UCLA. I know you can come up with something more original than that garbage.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

In our days

We also protested against student fees increases. It didn’t keep us from going to the games. Excuses keep getting lamer. Sad.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

First of all

I don’t believe my post warranted the intensity of your response. You should learn to be a little bit more respectful when disagreeing with someone.

First, the protest was but a small part of the overall movement. And keep in mind, this isn’t limited to the students; the professors are in on this one, too. My professor is actually the reason why I attended the protest. So, while I understand that you probably expect us to be the average ignorant group of rioters, you should know that this is actually a statewide movement. And you’re right, making noise in Sacramento would be smart, which is why thousands of UC students are already there.

Second, I am not sitting here crying about being tased. I had a friend who got tased, so a group of friends and I spent time making her feel better. Simple as that.

Third, football games are fun. But there are a million other things to do in LA. Sometimes I just don’t really care about the UCLA Bruins. I’m sorry if you’ve wasted who knows how many hours of your life cheering on a football team full of people who don’t even know who you are. That doesn’t mean it’s a requirement on my part. I know about half the team, and I wish them all good luck during the week. But in the same way that they’re busy people, and thus don’t show up to every single one of my games (that would be just a bit ridiculous), I’m a busy person, too. I usually have practices on Saturdays. So I actually don’t go to many games at all. Big deal.

This can all be summarized very nicely by Scanlan’s (UCLA Professor, Sport Psychologist) model of commitment. One of the major constituents is the appeal of alternative activities. The more pressing an athlete’s other activities may be, the less committed he or she will be to his or her sport.
SImply put: perhaps the students of this generation find other activities in the LA area more appealing than a football game. You may disagree with this sentiment. Nevertheless, my point is that our student body is neither lazy nor apathetic. We simply have different interests.

by jatteratious on Nov 22, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Lost track of my counting

Let’s change the title of that post to, “Chill out a bit, please?”

by jatteratious on Nov 22, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You are hanging out at the wrong place

If you really feel this way:

Sometimes I just don’t really care about the UCLA Bruins. I’m sorry if you’ve wasted who knows how many hours of your life cheering on a football team full of people who don’t even know who you are. That doesn’t mean it’s a requirement on my part. I

If you thinking “cheering” our football team is “waste” – BN is not the place for you dude.

Try some other site.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You're a sorry ass Bruin

First, this is simply stupid:

I don’t believe my post warranted the intensity of your response. You should learn to be a little bit more respectful when disagreeing with someone.

I respect dissenting views when they’re rational and not written by a spoiled crybaby douche posing as a UCLA student. Moreover, that’s not even an “intense” response.

Second, this is also lame:

First, the protest was but a small part of the overall movement. And keep in mind, this isn’t limited to the students; the professors are in on this one, too. My professor is actually the reason why I attended the protest. So, while I understand that you probably expect us to be the average ignorant group of rioters, you should know that this is actually a statewide movement. And you’re right, making noise in Sacramento would be smart, which is why thousands of UC students are already there.

One would have to be blind not to see the news coverage of a handful of UC students doing stupid things that they think will change the ultimate outcome of the fee increase. Believe me, I know. I live within 15 miles of a UC campus. And from your post, it appears there are whiny, ineffectual students at every UC campus. It’s great that the professors are in on your protest too. What you fail to realize is that, if you wake up and get out of your academic bubble (because to be real with you, most of your professors are very smart, but out of touch with the real world), the state government is cutting you off. And if taxes keep going up, in this state, with our voter initative process, soon, the taxpayers are going to cut you off too. You still pay less than students at Stanford, U$C, Pepperdine, Santa Clara, St. Mary’s, UOP, etc. for an equal (in the case of Stanford) or superior (in the case of the other schools) education. I’m sorry, but I’m not that sympathetic. It’s also why millions of Californians aren’t very sympathetic to you either.

And if you want to make change, you’re going to need more than a few thousands students in Sacramento (the ineffective “lobbying” of UC Students Association) to do anything of any substance.

Third, you’re clueless:

Second, I am not sitting here crying about being tased. I had a friend who got tased, so a group of friends and I spent time making her feel better. Simple as that.

Umm, yes you are. You bitched and whined about your friends and how they were wronged. She got tased by the cops. She probably had it coming, and if she wasn’t arrested, she should be happy for it. Refusing to leave when told to by the police is a receipt for a tasing, so again, spare me your melodrama. You are not the students of the 1960s and 1970s. You are not standing up for some noble cause. This is not the civil rights movement. You’re protesting out of your own self-interest, out of your own financial motivation, so again, spare me the f**king melodrama.

Next, you’re a sorry-ass Bruin and you have no real business being here on BN:

Third, football games are fun. But there are a million other things to do in LA. Sometimes I just don’t really care about the UCLA Bruins. I’m sorry if you’ve wasted who knows how many hours of your life cheering on a football team full of people who don’t even know who you are. That doesn’t mean it’s a requirement on my part. I know about half the team, and I wish them all good luck during the week. But in the same way that they’re busy people, and thus don’t show up to every single one of my games (that would be just a bit ridiculous), I’m a busy person, too. I usually have practices on Saturdays. So I actually don’t go to many games at all. Big deal.

It’s not about the football team chief. It’s about supporting your fellow Bruins, your university, and taking pride in a tradition that, if done properly (like at many of our nation’s universities), would bring our community (students, alum, fans, etc.) together behind something. That’s why so many of us watch: it’s a chance to watch the game with fellow Bruins, to watch with your buddies and cheer on your alma mater. I don’t cheer on the guys on the team because they know me or don’t know me. I cheer them on because they’re Bruins, because unlike many other universities, they are student-athletes with class and with academic integrity. That’s something worth cheering and supporting. I cheer on our teams because I’ve seen the alternative: I’ve been to a UC school with no sports, with no morale, with no pride. It f**king sucked. Our teams helps bring a lot of pride to Bruins Nation and I think that’s pretty awesome. But since you’re part of the generation of young Californians who think they are entitled to an education and a handout, you don’t get it. One day, kid, maybe you will.

Moreover your comment is the lamest backhanded swipe at someone ever. Knowing guys on the football team doesn’t make you cool. Commenting on how you do, in fact, makes you a huge douche bag. There are a million things to do in L.A. and you should take advantage of those opportunities. But come on, don’t act like the “big distraction” that is L.A. prevents students from making it to Pasadena (or for that matter, Pauley).

Also, you keep talking as if you’re a student-athlete yourself, albeit one in a non-revenue program (and since I know your IP, email, etc., believe me, I know), which supposedly makes you cool. In case you forgot cool guy, it’s alumni like me, who donate to the school, that allows the university to even have programs that don’t put up a single cent. Facilities, fields, staff. None of that crap is free. Without alumni donations, you’d be dicked royal, so maybe you should shut the f**k up and be happy the alumni still give to a school that unfortunately has pretentious, self-important “students” with an entitlement complex.

But, hey maybe you’re right about something:

[P]erhaps the students of this generation find other activities in the LA area more appealing than a football game. You may disagree with this sentiment. Nevertheless, my point is that our student body is neither lazy nor apathetic. We simply have different interests.

You’re right: you guys are into “cool” stuff like Facebook/MySpace, playing video games, watching garbage like Twilight and Harry Potter, tracking everything lameass celebrities are up to, and taking up “social causes” without knowing what the f**k you’re actually supporting.

Your generation does have different priorities. Congratulations on being a part of the most vapid, shallow, self-important generation in a long time. You better enjoy your time on campus bud, because reality is going to be a bitch. You better hope older alum who actually give a crap about the university and its programs are willing to bail you out cool guy.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Okay, well the general decline is a different story

I’m a 5th year, and to be honest, I’ve noticed the change as well. I think the younger students just don’t care about UCLA sports that much. They seem just as happy with going to other events in LA, or having random get-togethers… To each his own, I guess…

by jatteratious on Nov 22, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Let's light a candle...

…instead of cursing the darkness. Can we add links to BN that connect us where to buy tickets, find buses, locate parking, etc.? Maybe even info on which television and radio stations carry the games, so we don’t have to resort to the L.A. Times? I know this is true fan site, but that information may do what people are wishing here — help the more casual fan participate.

by Joe Bruin on Nov 22, 2009 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone is more than welcome to write up

a well informed post providing all the information in the fanpost section. If it’s well written enough we might put it in our left hand column.

If someone wants to take initiative and do a series of posts to build it out, even better. I personally just don’t have the time to write them up.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

+1. Very good idea.

The athletic department has not done a good job giving easy to access and clear information to people who want to get to the game and tailgate. I had to sell tickets to another game earlier in the season, and the person who bought them from me had a high school kid who was about to become a Bruin. I had to explain how to get to the Rose Bowl, when to get there, what the tailgating was like, where the best place to enter the golf course is, etc. etc… Tailgating on the grass at the Rose Bowl is one of the best sports experiences you can have in California, but it’s very hard for a newcomer to get organized and know what to expect when they come. I know there’s some directions on the rose bowl site, but for the most part everything you find on the internet fails to do justice to the experience at our venue.

by bruin_2K on Nov 22, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Despit the turnout

i was pleasantly surprised at the amount of people that were tailgating at 8 am. I believe ESPN named us as one of the top 10 tailgating schools

by AMM19 on Nov 22, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I will continue to be amazed at the lack of fan participation

at the Rose Bowl, given that the tailgating experience is probably one of the best in the country from a venue perspective. For God’s sake, you are tailgating on a giant grass field. It doesn’t get any better than that.

I too was also quite surprised when we walked in and noticed how empty it was. Was really hoping for a better turnout – we’re in Section 6, right next to the students, and I was quite amazed at how tame the student section was – even those who did show up.

by CAJason80 on Nov 22, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

A theory

It could have something to do with 4 wins last year and 6 or 7 this year. Along with five years of bad Dorrell football. Just a thought. And the 46,000 number is about what our fan base looks like. Stands were not filled out with the typical 20,000 free tickets we give to local high schools. Blame Guerrero, if you’re looking to toss around blame.

by DavidWoods on Nov 22, 2009 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

Then what's the excuse for basketball or any other sport?

Anybody can fill the stadium when a team is good (and actually UCLA has struggled to fill the Rose Bowl even during good times), Big friggin’ deal. The test of a fan base is what they do during lean years. Guess what? UCLA football fans failed. UCLA basketball fans? Failing. UCLA fans for all other sports. Have been failing for years.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

Not sure what you’re referencing as far as good times at the Rose Bowl. Last good times at the Rose Bowl were 11 years ago, and attendance was pretty damn good then. Regardless, most fan bases fail your test. Actually, pretty much everything outside of the SEC/Big 10 fails your test. Our fans suck, fine, but tough to say it’s unique to UCLA, and probably unrealistic to expect a whole lot more until we start winning a whole lot more

And basketball attendance has much more of a money issue at its heart than anything else. Tough to donate enough for a lot of people to get seats, tough to transfer tickets. But actually, student attendance, especially for these early season games, has been better than I’ve seen it at the same stage of the season in the last 7 years or so.

by DavidWoods on Nov 22, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's take a look back

to the mid-90’s when the UCLA-USC game wasn’t at the Rose Bowl. This the season’s average attendance :

1999- 49,825
1997- 54,589
1995- 49,107

Take a look at 1998, the most successful year in UCLA football since…well that’s up for debate, but that was a team on the cusp of a national title game appearance AND the SC game was at the Rose Bowl. Average attendance for that year? 73,709. Solid, but with the USC game accounting for a sell out and a team that was as good as that one, it should have been much higher. Even in UCLA’s great years, attendance wasn’t anything to brag about.

You say that outside of the SEC/Big12, everyone fails my test, but how many schools around the country have as much athletic success as UCLA? Basketball success? Unmatched, yet attendance doesn’t show it. Football? Decent in good years, awful is lean years. Non-Revenue sports? Unmatched success and god-awful attendance. Across the board, the attendance for UCLA athletics is at-best average for the Pac-10 despite the unmatched success.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok

Not sure what exactly we’re disagreeing on. My main point is that yesterday wasn’t out of the norm. 46k is about the usual number, if you don’t fluff it with 20,000 freebies. Number of factors play into it, besides shitty fans. Distance to the Rose Bowl, consistent early afternoon game times, pretty bad football, etc. Weird thing you’ll notice when you look at the season records for that stretch during the 90’s: we didn’t put together a whole lot of consistent success. Two of those three years you reference here were not good. 97 built up enough good will that attendance jumped nearly 20,000. Fans will show up for a consistent winner. Expecting them to show up for consistent putridity is silly.

For fun, go look at that other progam in LA that has a stadium in its backyard and has that unparalleled football success. How did their attendance look during, say, 1998?

For basketball, there are significant money issues at work. Consistently attending is simply not in the cards for a lot of the younger alumni. As I said, though, student attendance looks better than usual thus far.

by DavidWoods on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell, UVa Football draws better than that (the 90's figures, that is)

And, to be honest, UVa is not a very good program, nor does it have a recent history of success.The student body is about half the size of UCLA’s, while alumni ticketholders face an even longer trek to attend home games (Richmond-Charlottesville = 1 hour on a normal day; while coming from DC/NoVa can be 2-3 hours each way) than most Bruin alums have to the Rose Bowl.

by bruinhoo on Nov 22, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It's sad that even during our FF years

Pauley would routinely be 75% full. I get that the seats always “sell out” but empty seats are still empty whether they’ve been sold or not. I can’t speak for what happened after KLove left because I lost my rights to student tickets but the reports I’ve heard from last year were discouraging.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

even for the ND game

i think only about 10k showed up for that game, and considering that was the marquee hone game of the year is not a good sign

by AMM19 on Nov 22, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

it's been 50+ years since

I was a student, so I can’t speak for today’s young people. But I can say that my friends and I loved sports and never missed a game. I also liked most of my classes and didn’t mind studying hard and doing papers, etc. So the poor attendance is as mysterious to me as wanting to follow some celebrity’s thoughts and activities on Twitter or fiddle-faddle or whatever it is called — completely incomprehensible. Nevertheless, I noticed that many of the people who have sat in our immediate area all year were absent yesterday — season-ticket holders, no less. Why? I don’t have a clue. Maybe they were already on the way to Grandma’s house. I can only say that I was puzzled and disappointed by the attendance, whatever the reason, and I think Nestor’s comments were completely justified.

by ReineSeite on Nov 22, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

i can say that

most of my friends don’t like sports or don’t care enough to watch. My basketball player friends watch basketball and my football friends watch football. Most of the others spend their time skating, playing video games, on facebook/myspace, or smoking weed

by AMM19 on Nov 22, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You may be looking at things through Rose-colored glasses

When at UCLA I went to just one football game, along with at least 100 games of other sports on campus. Too many comments are understating the effort to get out there. Seriously – it’s really friggin hard to get there, and doubles the time commitment of an on-campus stadium. I didn’t have the time to spend 6-7 hours on a football game very often between homework and the obligatory late-90’s Internet start-ups. I didn’t see the difference until I went to my brother-in-law’s BC games – that’s a setup that would allow me to have gone to many more games. So give the students a break. It’s just really hard to get out there.

Personally, after graduating, the situation’s not much better. In half a dozen games, I’d say I’ve had one “positive” experience (not counting what happens on the field). Between getting lost finding my car after a night game, baking in the heat during a day game, sitting in the car for an hour waiting in line to park then another hour waiting to get out after the game, it’s still tough, so I support the other teams on campus more.

by VinceB on Nov 22, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

I'm still disappointed by student turnout despite what you just said

But kudos to you for getting out and supporting some of the non-revenue sports.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry for those who missed out

I have missed fewer than ten home football games since 1976. Although disappointed by the acres of empty seats yesterday, I have neither the hubris nor the desire to shame others into going. I go because win or lose, I enjoy supporting the Bruins in person. For those to whom winning is everything, going even to the “hopeless” games brings rewards. I treasure attending the improbable John Barnes Miracle and the impossible 13-9 win. For the rest of us, cheering for UCLA in person is reward enough. Those who skipped yesterday missed enjoying perfect football weather, saluting our graduating seniors, watching the best half-time show in memory, celebrating a big win and exhorting the team to beat SC next week. I hope your are fortunate enough to join us next year at the Rose Bowl.

by lm on Nov 22, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

Offended Student here

This is the first time I have ever seen a Bruin community hellaciously attack its own student body, and I find it insulting and unfortunate. I was indeed one of the students there at the Rose Bowl yesterday, along with all of my friends. Looking at the pictures of the stadium, it is true that the student section, especially the upper part is at about 50% capacity. That is unfortunate and it admittedly should have been higher.

However, I think there is more than enough blame to go around. The section next to ours that looks like it should be for students (the empty eyesore) is completely off limits for students and reserved for alumni/other paying fans. The ENTIRE North and South were empty (and not just the ASU small-ish fan sections). This is a reflection of the Bruin Nation as a whole, and NOT the student section (a section that keeps decreasing in seats every year to make room for alumni that never bother to show up). Despite the university raising student fees and doing everything they can to discourage their own students from attending games, the student section is ALWAYS the loudest and most invested into the game. Everywhere else around the stadium, most alumni (not including the few die-hards that are on these websites), are sitting in their seats 90% of the time and grumbling. I’m sure most of us in this forum wish we could be in the student section every game, forever, because most UCLA ‘fans’ hardly care about the game.

I think the biggest problem and task for UCLA is to get its alumni and general fans to devote themselves to the game in the same way 100,000 person stadiums around the country continuously fill their seats and make it too loud to hear. I think everyone in here, while justified in claiming that the student section should have been more filled, needs to accept responsibility as well and not look for a scapegoat (especially not in the one section that contributes the most noise and passion.)

From the experience of having to take buses by first 2 years here, I need to make a clarification that most alumni probably don’t know. The student buses increase in price every year. They are now at $6 and MUST be purchased 3 whole days before the game. They leave over 3 hours before the game, unlike a fan with a car who can leave with an hour or two before kickoff. This won’t matter to the 30% of UCLA students that are die-hard fans. But it does matter to the rest who would normally go if it weren’t so much of a hassle. I’ve grown up a Bruin my entire life, attending games and knowing students older than myself. The obstacles thrown at the students w/out cars today are significantly worse than they were 10 years ago. Couple that with term papers and midterms taking up a student’s life, and it’s understandable why so many on the fence decide that it’s just not worth it.

I don’t mean to attack anyone else, but I find it upsetting that this community would turn so quickly on the students that keep the tradition going. I think everyone needs to relax and take another look at the Rose Bowl from yesterday, recognizing who was standing, who was sitting, and which sections were entirely empty.

(Just to clarify, I am proud to be a Bruin senior. This was my last home game in the student section, and the outcome couldn’t have been better. I will definitely be at the usc game next saturday. I am proud that I can continue the legacy of everyone in this forum, and I know that the people reading my response are NOT those sitting in their seats, but the few that get up and try their hardest to get the lazy ones around them to do the same.)

by longbordr52 on Nov 22, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Pauley Pavilion is a far worse and disturbing story.
UCLA absolutely needs to revamp their policy on season-ticket holders at Pauley that never bother to show up and leave 80% of the place empty for most of our games. Meanwhile, there are 10,000+ students each and every game that feel cheated that they can’t attend because the student section is virtually non-existent and the lottery system prevents most from seeing their favorite team.
I won’t even get into this since my last post was so long.

by longbordr52 on Nov 22, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

They need to change the policy regarding students ticket allotments in Pauley. How one of the premier college basketball programs in the country in the 2nd most populous city in the nation can’t fill a 11,000 + seat gym is mind boggling.

Allow more students in and that place becomes louder and more intimidating as well.

formerly godblesstyus95

by Blue Me on Nov 22, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The student ticket allotment system is pretty bad

I imagine that students have complained about the Pauley ticket allotments ever since the building opened, but the stories that I have heard over the past couple of years seem to have gotten worse. Whether or not the administration of the lottery has differed in recent years, I believe that the recent change to electronic tickets, without any mechanism for allowing students to transfer unused tickets to fellow students has made the overall problem worse than past years.

I was working on a fanpost on exactly this subject late last basketball season. Whether or not the draft has remained saved, I’ll probably go back to that issue in the next few weeks. The move to electronic tickets does open some creative options for managing ticket allotment that might be of interest.

by bruinhoo on Nov 22, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Then again

Why should students get more seats when they fail to routinely fill up what they are allowed. They haven’t showed anything in recent years that allows them to make a justifiable claim to have more and better seats.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

In this case, it's a sliding scale

I’d say that on balance in recent years, the students have done a better job of support in Pauley than the high level donors who often don’t show up at all. The students rarely fill their upper level allotment, but neither does anyone else, and even then the students often fill that section up more than any other. They also are the only ones generating any kind of noise and excitement. That’s why Morgan Center needs to start tracking attendance. If attendance factored into who gets to the lower level, maybe you start filling the upper levels too as a result with people who want to make sure that their head is counted for later. That should go for everyone. If you want to sit closer to the action, start showing up to the games.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

A couple points

Your first paragraph indicates that you were there yesterday along with your friends. That’s fantastic. I am certain the original post as well as those deriding the student body are not aimed at you and your friends, so hopefully that removes some of the insult you feel. The other point I’ll make is that the original post does also go after the alums that didn’t show up:

This also goes for the alums and so called fans in Southern California who can be found after moments like Gonzaga tournament game jumping around and claiming to bleed blue and gold.

You won’t personally see many of the people on here at the games because we have readers from all over the country. That said, it hasn’t been very long since I was a student, and I was embarrassed at our support back then and I’m embarrassed about it now.

I also agree with your other post about Pauley. A revamp desperately needs to happen. I started UCLA in CBH’s first year. Suffice it to say, there was a lottery for tickets but it was a mere formality. If you wanted tickets, you got them. It’s sad that we can’t fill the sections now even when people can’t get tickets. It’s not just the season-ticket policy that needs changing: I think the AD needs to start tracking these tickets to see who is showing up. Those that have better attendance get more “points” when it comes to renewing them next year, and that goes for both students and alumni season tickets.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The most frustrating thing about Pauley

Is that after donating thousands to the Wooden Fund the best you can do is nosebleed seats. Then when you come to the early season games and get to your lousy seats you have to look down at all the empty seats on the lower level that you would kill for. Lets save that for another discussion.

by bruin_2K on Nov 22, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The most frustrating thing

is the people that aren’t showing up to the games in the lower level are the same ones complaining that to retain those seats in the renovated Pauley, they have to pay market value.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing there hasn't been a lot of movement

On the issue of seating for the renovation? All I want is an intense and intimidating atmosphere for CBH and his warriors. I know our Den has it in them because I’ve seen it. I think it can only get better the more students we bring down to the bottom. It’s something that feeds on itself. But because it’s a good and beneficial idea for our program, I doubt it’ll happen.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting to hear re. the Rose Bowl buses

Sounds like things have changed since I graduated, and not for the better (but would anyone expect anything else from Morgan Center?). When I was attending UCLA (graduated in ’04, so Fall 2003 was my last football season), the student buses were free, and were more flexible in regards to departure time. Students did have to pick up bus tickets in advance.

I was not aware until your post that things had changed regarding the buses until your post, so thanks for letting us know.

by bruinhoo on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they started charging the year after you left

I remember that change in policy. I also remember the tickets needing to be picked up in advance but I’m not sure it was 3 days.

by Tydides on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure why are you offended

You went to the game. So the post is not directed at you. Rest of the UCLA students however who didn’t fill out the student section … well they FAILED … in a big way,

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

N,

How feasible is it to have a Bruins Nation tailgate/football event? It will great to have you, 66, and others come to LA and enjoy a game with the rest of BN. I’m just curious about the turnout.

I’m looking at the September 17, 2011 game against the Texas Longhorns. I hope by then, we will be the experienced team with a veteran QB in Kevin Prince, ranked in the top 15, and will compete for a berth for the Rose Bowl or a BCS bowl.

I just hosted a tailgate party for 35 and it was a lot of work, but I would love to help organize this. Perhaps we can have a committee of Bruin alums set this all up. It will take some time to promote, organize, and follow through to make it a great event.

Let me know your thoughts. I know 2011 is a long time from now.

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 22, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

If you guys want to do a BN gathering … you guys should feel free to self organize. I am sure other moderators, regular bloggers who are in Southern California/California area will be more than happy to show up. :-)

And if I am around in California by then … I will be there!

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

By 2011

I hope both the Basketball and Football teams will be in the top 10 and BN will have thousands of bloggers. We can definitely fly you out to LA and enjoy a game with us. :-)

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 22, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

Thanks for the offer but I am sure it’s a matter of time we all tailgate before a big game. As mentioned above though people should always feel free to self organize.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I do appreciate that the story was written as a general criticism of all sections of UCLA fans who didn’t bother to show up. So perhaps I was unfair in disregarding that.

I also understand that some previous generations have had more success convincing their peer students to attend games, and I really wish we were a stronger student-body this year.

I felt offended based on the responses that were mounting up in this forum, almost all of which seemed aimed directly at the student body and I felt it was appropriate to step in and mention the equal shortcomings of alumni and other ucla fans. It isn’t as much personal offense, since I can see that no one is targeting any individuals, but the near-unanimous assault on the student section (that really wasn’t completely empty – it’s gotten much smaller in recent years than people might realize) was uncalled for. I am a proud, current student, a life-long fan and a Bruin forever. My long response came from the feeling that I’m one of the only current students on this site and I felt it necessary to respond for the student body.

by longbordr52 on Nov 22, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

What "story"?

Where do you see a freaking “story”? This is a freaking blog and I put up a post. I spoke my mind about how pathetic the UCLA student section looked during UCLA’s biggest football game in years. The post (a very short one) wasn’t directed at the folks who showed up. I directed at the “UCLA fans” (and yes especially the students) who failed to show up on Senior Day.

Again this is a freaking blog not a newspaper site. We are not filing or writing “stories.”

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh one more thing

Did you see the word “Alumni” and “fans” in the header of this fanshot? Did you see how I also called out the alumni as well or you can’t read?

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

my bad

Not a ‘story’
Rather, a posting. And yes, I do see the heading and I do recognize that this isn’t a newspaper.
I think I said what I needed to say. You’ve actually created the best blog on UCLA sports, so thank you.
I’m going to drop this issue since it’s not constructive to fight another Bruin about arbitrary fans who don’t show up. Thanks for letting us all post our opinions, though. It’s a far cry from those newspaper sites like the Trojan Times that won’t tolerate Bruin fans.

by longbordr52 on Nov 22, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is what we can do & turn this into positive

You should feel free to use BN as an organizing tool to get your fellow students more passionate about UCLA sports. You are on campus now. You know what is going on. So use the tools in this community (fanposts, fanshots) to get the word out. Get other kids fired up and use it as a place to brainstorm ideas and then turn them into action.

Again, to emphasize my post wasn’t directed at the students/alums/fans – the real ones – who showed up and rocked it yesterday. You did your part.

by Nestor on Nov 22, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't get us wrong

We all appreciate those of you who went out to the Rose Bowl yesterday and cheered your hearts out. For me, I’ve been going to almost every football/basketball game for the last 15+ years, only missing a few when my friends ignore my rule about only getting married between mid April and August. I just have never seen the student section or end zones so empty. I walked in there expecting a BIG crowd for such an important game, plus it was senior day, so I like the other here were disappointed. UCLA Football is on the brink of becoming what we have all waited for, so get out there people! Be there to witness it!

GO BRUINS!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 22, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

oops

Should have said "like the others here, I was disappointed. Hate those kinds of errors! :)

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 22, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

i remember

the senior salute in ’05 that sold out and since that team was pretty successful, i think when our fball team turns the corner, so will the attendance

by AMM19 on Nov 22, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Let them stay home

On the one hand, I agree that the turnout yesterday, especially in the student section, was really embarassing. Yesterday was my last game at the Rose Bowl as a student. I’ve been in law school at UCLA for the past three years after graduating from UCLA in 07. Those of you that are in the practice of law know that the economy definitely had an effect on the industry and on job prospects for law students. So, starting law school in the fall of 2007 was not the best situation. My classmates and I busted our asses our first year of law school. Forget undergrad term papers and midterms. I studied and worked harder my first year of law school than I ever had in the past. Want to know how many home football games I missed that year? None. Want to know how many I have missed in the past three years? One, and only because my grandma passed away and I had to go to Atlanta for the funeral the weekend of the OSU game last year.

I don’t go to games because I think we are the best team ever and my decision to go is not affected by whether we are good or bad. I go because I love my school, I love football and I just dont think there is anything better to do on a Saturday afternoon than to go to the Rose Bowl and watch a Bruins game.

On the other hand, I am glad that some students decided to skip the game yesterday. I hate sitting in the student section, surrounded by 18 and 19 year old hipsters who have no idea what is going on in the game. They come into the game 5 mins after kickoff. They scream a little, do an 8 clap or two and then after the alcohol wears off, they sit there like zombies, complaining about the heat and talking about everything except for the game. I wish there were more students that care, but since there arent, I am glad the ones that dont choose not to come to the game.

by UCLA07Law10 on Nov 22, 2009 5:45 PM PST reply actions  

I was out there with 35 of my friends

We try to have an annual football/tailgating reunion every year, and I was there at about 8am setting up our area. I had 5 extra tickets that I was trying to give away, but couldn’t find any alumni friends who would take them. I was surprised at the low turnout, especially for Senior Day and the importance of the game.

I know it is a commitment of 5 to 6 hours, but I make sure to aside 6 Saturdays every fall to go to the Rose Bowl and cheer on the football team.

Some other thoughts I have:

1) Winning: there will always be bandwagon fans who will show up when the team is winning consistently.

2) Transportation: More shuttles for the public from the Westside, Valley, OC, etc. to the Rose Bowl (the Hollywood Bowl does this and it is effective).

3) Ticket prices: The regular price for the ASU game was $36. I was able to get the group rate of $26 and some thought this was pricey. The Cal game was an additional $10. I’m wondering if lowering the ticket prices will draw more fans. It will even out because more tickets will be sold and concession sales will also increase.

4) Word of mouth: We need to be like CRN and promote this program and tell the fans to come out and keep on coming.

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

I was about to write something here

but Khalil Bell just ran for 72 yards on his first ever carry!

by LoveMyBruins on Nov 22, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

If the tickets were free, would more students go?

As I recall (and it’s been a long time) all the football games were free and the bball games were a quarter each. We had to go to the Crapaseum for football and the Sports Arenema for b-ball my freshman year. I don’t remember what the attendance was, but I knew that it was a regular part of my week to go to every game, and that meant figuring out how to get from Westwood to south central.

There has to be a way to move students from point A to point B. The administration doing all it can to to limit attendance with those idiotic rules about spending a good portion of one’s disposable income on a ticket for a bus that leaves at an inconvenient time and which must be purchased an inconvenient number of days in advance. How’s this, administration – a free bus ride for every student and a free ticket for every student, and with busses shuttling back and forth all day long. Sure, it’s a big expense, but we have a big-time football program. What would the incremental cost be, anyway? And wouldn’t a few fund-raisers by the Bruin Bench raise enough money?

I think the school is absolutely wrong for making it impracticable if not impossible for every student to enjoy what should be a major portion of the student experience.

Current students – now is the time to present a rational, fact-based presentation to the administration to show how overall revenue will increase if students are given free tickets (you only get in by showing a reg card with a picture (and I assume there is some way to make reg cards foolproof) and free transportation (again, only kids with reg cards get on the bus.) More kids equals more concession sales, blah, blah, blah. More students getting the Bruin football bug means more alums actually buying tickets, etc. Be creative. But fiigure out a way to cause the school not to impede each student’s ability to participate in one of the greatest aspects of the university growing experience.

by Fox 71 on Nov 22, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

A number of schools do it that way

with one caveat; student tickets are not ‘free’, but included as a part of student athletic and activity fees. Would probably cost ~$10/quarter to implement at UCLA, not counting the Rose Bowl shuttles.

by bruinhoo on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

My seats were on the West side...

… and boy, does it ever suck over there. You practically have to apologize for standing and making noise on 3rd downs. There were about 15 empty seats in front of me, and I was in row #13. On the 35-yard line. I mean, geez.

But on a slightly-related topic… if any BNers are headed to the Mausoleum and have an extra seat, please let me know what it would cost to join you. Would love to go, but dear husband has to work and since I’m not a ninja, I’m not going on my own.

GO BRUINS!!!

by bruinchick on Nov 22, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

By the way....

Nestor, is this the kind of thing that might be worth starting a thread for?

GO BRUINS!!!

by bruinchick on Nov 22, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Not speaking for Nestor

but I think you should. Post something seeing if anyone wants the ticket. The more people we can get there, the better!

GO BRUINS!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 22, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll take care of it

I’m going to put up a SC game ticket thread. Everyone rec is so it stay up all week and any ticket talk to get more Bruins in the Coliseum can be in one spot.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Just to clarify

I don’t have seats at this point… I’m reluctant to buy tickets, seeing as I’m going stag.

GO BRUINS!!!

by bruinchick on Nov 22, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

The thread is up. It’s anything game attendance related. Stick a comment on there letting people know you’re looking for a ticket and some Bruins to go with. Hopefully a BNer has an extra ticket and you can go with them.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Rye

You continue to be the man. Good work dude.

by Bellerophon on Nov 22, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Idea Ryan!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 22, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Just make sure to rec it so it can be up all week

I’ll be at the game and I’m hoping thousands of other Bruins will as well. Anything to get as much blue and gold there as possible.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 22, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It was really upsetting...

looking up from the lower student section and seeing that the upper student section wasn’t even half full. I have to say I agree with all the comments above: there really is not excuse for this many students to miss a game. In a school of nearly 27,000 undergrads, how is it that, at most, only 2000 of them (and I might be really generous with that number) show up.

The way I see it, I had an amazing UCLA sports weekend with victories @ Pauley and the Rose Bowl. I will be at the basketball game against Pepperdine and the football game at the Coliseum. The students that don’t go have missed out on an awesome experience. And the students that miss out in the future may be missing out something special (i.e. a victory over $c this weekend).

by TrueBlueAndGold on Nov 23, 2009 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

Unfortunately

this is probably one of the longest threads of all time. Pretty sad. I did learn some new excuses, however.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 23, 2009 5:23 AM PST reply actions  

The Elephant in the Room

I know I will catch a lot of heat for this post, so let me preface it with a few statements. I believe no race is better than any other. I also believe no culture is better than any other. However, there are differences in races/cultures that instill different values and different interests into people. Also, to those attacking “stereotypes” or “generalizations”, I say this: there are two problems with stereotypes, 1) applying one to an individual person because they often do not fit, and 2) the stereotype about the group is FALSE. The first cannot apply because I am not speaking about and individuals, and anyone who attends ucla sports regularly will back up the 2nd is not a problem either.

I attended UCLA 04 to 08. I currently attend a law school in the SoCal area and attend all football games. The fanbase clearly got worse each year after I was a freshmen for football. I have a few theories as to why this is other than the obvious (we are bad for a long period)

One: as said above, as academic standards rise, we are getting less and less well rounded people and more book nerds.

Two: UCLA is becoming less “white”. I have no problem with this. However, it was clear from my four years that non-white students are less interested in UCLA sports. This went to my own non-white friends (about 50% of the friends i had). To those who question me, simply look at the numbers. When i was there, the official count was 33% white. Yet I look around at sports game, and 70%++ of the people are white.
Once again, this does not make white people better in any way, im just pointing out the obvious facts. Non-white students are less likely to have UCLA sports as a top interest. So as less and less white people get into UCLA, less and less kids are likely to care about sports. On a sidenote, non-white students are not necessarily less interested in sports in general. For example, many of my asian friends played pickup basketball way more than i could keep up with. Other sports also. However, when it comes to WATCHING UCLA sports, they just werent interested.

Once again, clearly this doesn’t apply to every student; I am only talking general numbers here. But this does have a noticeable effect.

As to basketball: All four years I was a student at UCLA the basketball section was great. My first year we rarely filled the upper tank, but the die hards down below were still great. While in football the alums may do a better job supporting the team, in basketball it is definitely flipped. The lower alumni section reminds me of the lower section at Lakers games. A bunch of rich looking dudes who cant be bothered to cheer. Quite sad usually. I remember often in pac 10 games with two minutes left and a chant "stand up’ going, we could not even get the lowest section people to stand in a two point game!!
Tydides points idea for attending games is awesome.

In summary: As far as football support: The UCLA student body is changing as the academics require get higher and higher. We must realize that will have effects on the sports support. We may not like it, but that how it is.

Also, The Den leaders are just as die hard as ever, I know a few, and do a wonderful job. The diehard Den sections are just as strong as ever, the problem is the secondary followers who dont show up.

by BruinTrouble on Nov 23, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

I am only responding to the part of your post (as well as other posts above) . . .

. . . that suggest that the reason fan attendance is so poor is because the students are now too smart, or too nerdy, or too busy studying to care about football.

Here is my simple rebuttal: attendance at the Harvard vs. Yale football game this weeked was over 52,000, 7,000 more than UCLA.

by orlandobruin on Nov 23, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

the tradition in that rivalry goes way back, so i think its apples and oranges.

by AMM19 on Nov 23, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Going to have to disagree with you

I had a pretty diverse group of buds at UCLA. Some were definitely non-white. Hispanic, Indian, Chinese, Filipino, Armenian, etc. All were pretty hardcore about UCLA and their Bruins, both the athletics and the academics.

Sorry buddy, but in my opinion, that argument just doesn’t fly.

by Bellerophon on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

well

That is also their rivalry game. Lazy or not, students still come our for the USC game every year. But, hey, I agree. I care about academics etc. and I am still a die hard fan. I love being part of the Bruin nation and feeling part of the school spirit etc. But apparently that isn’t the case with the majority anymore.

by BruinTrouble on Nov 23, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

Great Trip

We made the trip from New Orleans for the game at the Rosebowl. It was my two sons first trip to a Bruin home game after seeing them play in sold out stadiums at Alabama, Tennessee & Notre Dame. They have also attended many games at LSU and have experienced incredible fanfare. Wow! Was I dissappointed to see an almost empty Rosebowl. I was really getting nervous when it looked like there were only 5,000 fans seated 5 minutes before kickoff. After the Bruins took two straight from the Washington schools, I was expecting a large crowd to keep the “MO” alive heading into the SC game. Well, it didnt turn out that way and it leaves me shaking my head. I hear the excuse that there is so much more to do in So Cal vs. the SEC schools, so they have nothing else to do on saturdays. Thats a cop out to me. Come on…….support your Bruins! None the less, my sons are huge Bruin fans and they enjoyed themselves with a huge win and were thankful for the extra leg room. We’ll be in Austin next year for the Longhorn game and HOPE to find tickets. Go Bruins!!

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 23, 2009 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Sort of a side note: for the first time I sat just below the press boxes..

and let me say that was one of the most enjoyable experiences I ever have had at a UCLA Football game since I was a child. It was such a pleasure to be seated around such well-informed and knowledgeable UCLA football fans. And the shade was pretty cool, too. I don’t know why I have maintained such an allegiance to the opposite side of the field.

by UCngLA on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

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