Center Court: Ben Ball (Pepperdine) Open Thread
Pepperdine Waves at UCLA Bruins, Nov 23, 2009 8:00 PM PST
Lost amidst all the drama around Nikola Dragovic, we have some Ben Ball action tonight. It's the third regular game of the season for 1-1 UCLA Bruins against 1-2 Pepperdine Wavers. Given the inexperience of our Ben Ball warriors, everyone of these pre-season games take on a certain sense of urgency because they are all invaluable for Coach Howland to prep our guys for a tough conference season.
Since Dragovic is going to be out for the second straight game, JK is going to get the start. He had a great game in his last outing as many thought he was our MVP in Bruins' first win of the season. We are going to need JK more than ever (along with MR) to bring some senior leadership in our team and settle down the underclassmen by playing steady on both ends of the court. Speaking of steady, we will also be looking for improvements from both JA and ML in our backcourt. If you want to read up on some more game day notes you can read a roundup here.
Tip off is scheduled for 8:00 pm PST (which means if you are on campus and want to make it to the Beat $C* bonfire which starts at 9:30 pm PST ... well I don't know what to tell you). It will broadcast live on FS West. You can also follow the game via official game tracker over here. For those who are following the game along this open thread, as always please free to share updates and scores so that other BNers across the nation who might not be fortunate enough to get live broadcast can follow along the fun. Here is to our guys building on what they showed in (sustained) flashes during second half of our last game.
So let's get this party started. Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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BOBO
Would like to see him play little more tonight. But will see what happens.
Anyone else getting the Tennessee game?
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
Jimmy Clausen reportedly given two black eyes in bar brawl
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions
Let's see how ND handles it...
I’m curious if charges will be leveled against him. And yes, a train wreck of a mess…
Bruin-4-Life!!!
I really disagree dwd
I have learned a lot from listening to Donnie Mac. He really mixes it up IMO with his Bruin perspective and technical knowledge of the game.
On a final note
I’ve been incredibly spoiled with Vin Scully, Chick Hern (RIP) and Chris Roberts. Billy Mac is making a fine name for himself too. Glad to have him.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
He's honest and critical when necessary -- but always a Bruin
unlike Norrie.
Donny Mac would not wear a red tie to a Bruin game
sjh
Much appreciated!
From Princeton, NJ
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 8:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
what's the password for the mbootymah feed?
by onedeterminedpanda on Nov 23, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions
Roll had an open 3 and took it.
as he should. unfortunately, he missed it. Hope tht doesn’t deter him from shooting
sjh
Donny mac is so right -- waiting for someone to take charge and take minutes
line up is wide open.
DM mentions RN as a possibility
sjh
Sigh
JA is NOT a D1 PG. Not right now.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Eh
Never say never, especially with Howland as the head coach.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
kidding right?
He will get schooled by Randle (Cal) and Isiah (UW). The guy has no game.
give me one reason why he will develop into a D1 PG?
Collison = quickness; Farmar = nba range; JA = ????
Because we haven't seen enough games
Do you remember Cameron Dollar? How many years of UCLA basketball have you been following that you sound so freaking ignorant.
Also
Don’t come here with garbage commentary and attack our players just based on observations from 3 freaking games in a player’s second year. Find a message board to take that BS.
I've watched every game
and am a die hard fan through the Hazzard years through Harrick, Lavin, and Howland. I’ve seen enough to see that JA has no game.
Then get the F out of here
and find another place to badmouth UCLA basketball players. Don’t come back here again.
And I'll gladly
eat my words if JA proves me wrong.
He is proving you wrong
making you look clueless in this thread. So stop putting up idiotic comments. We have banned people on BN for putting up dumb BS (not to mention attacking our players). So consider yourself warned.
DG is playing with great energy
nice draw on the charge
Stopping at the FT line
just like they teach you to do in high school.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
doesn't shoot enough
I get frustrated everytime he passes up the shot. He needs to be much more selfish.
There is no one else
ML has a history of cramping. Might as well get him ready for major minutes in conference.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Hamid also came in
guarding their leading scorer. Perhaps he’s shown something to Howland on the defensive end.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
It's not Farnams fault, but he reminds me of the lizard.
But, I really like him as an announcer.
sjh
Even better!
Get these guys real xperience!
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The freshman have better footspeed
you can see the difference when they are playing D
EXCELLENT ball movement...Lee hits a wide open 3
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions
Well
not at the time of my first posting. These things can come out of no where.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Oh shit -- Chris Brown misses another field goal for Houston -- could have sent the game to overtime
second miss in two weeks.
Why Oh shit?
Because they will go after Forbath. We will be lucky to keep him.
sjh
Was a very long desperation kick wasn’t it? Have it on mute so I’m not sure.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Forbath is
not leaving early. Who drafts kickers except Al Davis??
For a team like houston, he'd be money in the bank
We’ve lost at least two games by missing makeable FGs
sjh
Definitely showing improvement on offense
but can’t forget this is Pepperdine
Nice
Tough D at the end by DG showing toughness all the way to the buzzer sounds.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Pepperdine is awful..they are totally rebuilding themselves. We need to shoot better
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions
Not just that
I’m sure that’s not what CBH preaches. That attitude reeks of entitlement. I’d rather our team feel like they need to EARN respect. Every Single Year.
and the corruption and rules violations which I see as sports related
but I get your point.
You can’t take any game for granted — every opponent must be respected and beat.
sjh
Doesn't matter what he teaches the team....we are fans and we know UCLA should be better
unfortunately we have to build up these young kids who have virtually no experience…but I didn’t think it would be this rocky.
I trust Howland as I know he’s a phenomenal teacher but I hope these kids get it in a hurry
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
We need to improve.....
I don’t think any of the teams we’ve played so far would win a single game in the PAC-10
Really?
A team replacing 4 starters from last season (and now 5 with ND out) and you didn’t expect it to be “rocky”? Uh yeah. Whatever.
I expected rockiness but didn't know fully how difficult it is for kids to learn Howland's system
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I understand
both sides. However, I must admit that I thought we would be better with these highly recruited players.
UNC lost 4 starters but they just reloaded with top 15 players. We’re more like rebuilding at this point with top 50-100 players
Regardless, CBH will have this team ready for Pac-10. We should be ok this year and much better next year.
I see what you're saying but...
I think your expectations are a little too high. Basically, we’ve just been spoiled for the last 5 seasons. It was bound to happen since we recruit one n’ dones and a few two n’ dones.
I think we’ll be more than respectable by mid season.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Hope so...don't get me wrong, I love watching the young kids improve and mature
I’m excited to see the team gel.
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
+1. I hear ya.
It’s going to be frustrating…but at least it’s due to inexperience and not effort.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
UCLA/SUC
How is the UCLA/SUC game not on a major network?! WTF? Regionally, it should be a headliner, no?!!!!
Because SC is down and we haven't been good for a while
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately, it just doesn't have a big following unless both teams are ranked
Not like Ohio State – Michigan which is always a big deal
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
I swear to God
CRN has worn the same sweater and button down shirt for other basketball games. It’s like he has 2 outfits for the hoops games and that’s it. lol
Neuheisal = cool?
Ok, my wife, to my angst, thinks Carroll is cooler than Neu. She thinks Neu looks normal. WTF?! Should I get a divorce?
We've played 9 deep but no Bobo
I know there are good reasons, but he is such a great kid I’d love to see him, if only for a minute or 2
sjh
Yeah, I like the guy as well.
I wish we knew how well he is doing in practice.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
I would really like to see Howland use our freshman more
I just don’t see what Hamid’s 8 mins get us (while using MM for only 1 and RN for only 4 mins).
Bell?!
WTF? is that a belt he’s wearing? A white belt in martial arts = beginner
ML is our best offensive weapon at this point
He’s the only one who can create a shot
Anderosn appears to have re-injured his groin
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions
Come on. ....
Walk ons?
Anyone?
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 9:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Why not move ML over to point?
Pepperdine isn’t putting a lot of pressure on the ball anyway
I hate it when we just pass back and forth on the perimeter and wait till the last 8 seconds to shoot.
Coaches here on BN, why? I don’t get it.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
True for this year....but we did it when we had Jrue and even Westie the year before that.
It’s frustrating. It’s not like they’re swinging the ball to the other side.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Called for the pick
then both men stayed on him. Should have passed right away.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Hamid was getting a few mins last season before arm surgery.
we’re gonna need him this year
Bruin-4-Life!!!
is it just me or . . .
. . does it seem like UCLA is cursed with injuries every year.? I can’t remember a year in football or basketball where we’ve been relatively injury free.
Maybe it's time to get some new trainers.
Why are these kids cramping? That’s the trainers responsibility
disagree. I think we have one of the finest training staffs in the country
CBH runs a rough practice. They should be just fine, it’s just 3 games.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
What's up
with these cramps? ML against CSUF and now JA. Eats some bananas to prevent cramps, man.
Pardon my Art History reference
but is anyone else sorta bothered by Drew holding his “Christ in Majesty” pose after he dunks? I understand he’s passionate but after a few dunks I’d just like him to put his arms down and run back to play defense.
Hey
If he can be a threat from outside that would be a huuuuge plus.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Seeing a little confidence this game out of JA
especially on the offense end, nice 3
Tonight's rotation
Not sure why we aren’t seeing much of RN tonight. Getting outhustled on the boards a bit. I’d really like to see a line up of ML, MR, MM, JK/BL and DG/RN.
Hamid is making some shots but don’t think he is the answer.
Does anyone know
what the story with JM is?
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
I wouldn't mind all the 3s
If we were taking them because we want to, but how many of them are we forced into?
Seems like were shooting poorly tonight
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seems like they are flooding the interior with defenders and just waiting for us to pass around for a while
then we give up and try a three or give up a steal
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 PM PST reply actions
needs to learn
how to put on his shorts the right way.
Oh boy
we’ve hit a bit of a rough patch.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Nice D by Roll there on Bell
De-NILE ain’t just a river.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Getting better
but still falling away from the basket on most of his shots, needs to work on going strong to the hoop
He sometimes drives me a little crazy
i.e. when he took that dumb 3 point shot … but the kid brings it.
Just a heat check...wanted to see how much he had goin tonight :p
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
At this point
you can just say “Pac Ten Refs” since this phrase already suggests shitty.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Fooled me
I’ve never seen a fake like that before
Aren't we in for something like
Six games inten days
going to be brutal
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wow!
I know we all love our Bruins, but this teams has no athlete that can beat anyone off the dribble. You’ve got to admit that the last two recruiting years are way overrated except for Gordon. These freshmen look like they’ve never played before. I hate the excuses. These kids have been playing ball for years. Terrible ball handlers and they just panic with every shot or pass. It will be a long, long year. The Kansas game will be an embarrassment.
by LouisianaBruins on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions
Like I said
If you want to bandwagon get out of here.
hongrelli … this is your last warning. You have already badmouthed JA … if you guys are going to attack our guys … then don’t hang around at BN. Sound like ungrateful, spoiled, jerks somewhere else.
Badmouthed?!
Did I insult his mother? Come on man, you need to chill. Look at all my posts here on BN, I’ve called it like I’ve seen it. You can’t judge our team from playing the likes of pepperdine, bakersfield, and fullerton. Let’s see how we finish in the PAC.
Ok
Then do you consider my criticism of Bullough attacks? You can not judge our team by playing the likes of Fullerton, Bakersfield, and Pepperdine. I was agreeing to the fact that we have no one that can beat people off the dribble, not that we are an embarrassment. That’s my mistake for not being more specific. You’ve already warned me once, I have no doubt that you will most likely pull me after this post, but just to clarify what bad mouthing is: Bad mouthing is calling someone an “IDIOt”, “D-Bag”, “ignorant”, “dumb”.
Then why are you hanging out here?
Go on and quit … but don’t come back when we improve game by game this year and make our run next year.
Wow!
Hey nice take on your first post this entire game!
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Nelson is going to kick him in the nuts on the first posession
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Promise???? LOL. Let's hope so. Maybe Bobo will show up and eat him alive.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Now now
let’s not follow SuC’s example of whacking the Big 12 player of the year in the ’nads
Some of it is just being passionate fans.
There are definite holes in the roster since Jrue left. Hopefully our freshman are allowed to show their talents and Lee, Gordon, Keefe and Roll step up big time.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
True. Passionate doesn't mean intelligence by any means. You're right about that.
Everybody will change their tune when the frosh get comfortable with Coach H’s system.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
We don't want dumb commentary on BN
Passion is fine … but idiotic takes with zero perspective .. not kosher here,
the fact that one was great in high school
does not mean that one can walk into CBH’s system and play well with a few weeks of practice.
Get real.
Also, these are very young guys with young bodies.
Give them a break.
sjh
These are the kind of basketball "fans"
that media uses to label rest of us. Ungrateful, unreasonable jerks.
Or hurt
our chances for another Pac 10 title! (Too much?)
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
shhhh Nestor
It’s a young team, give them time ;)
Mustafaaaa
taking advantage of his minutes tonight. Gotta love the kid’s work ethic
Wow, i didn't see that
What a fucking moron. That’s the last thing he should be doing after this ass pounding they just took
Just because someone has better conditioning
Doesn’t mean he is giving what Howland needs from him during practices.
I trust the coach...either Bobo will get it or he won't
Howland wouldn;t keep a good player on the bench
by UCLABruins4Ever on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
@ this point, with his non-minutes and our signing of J Smith...
he might look to transfer closer to home.
Bruin-4-Life!!!
Nice game, baby Bruins!
Looks like nice shooting stats in all 3 categories: fg 3pt fts
sounded like Roll& Gordon impressive and nice mins off the bench by Mustafa – kid shoeing senior poise?
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Then he's an academic sr!
Great game!
Goodnight all from Nj.
Thanks for the scores.
by mplsbruin on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yesss! Finally a performance that resembles what we're used to seeing.
Still pissed about the Fullerton loss, but if we improve every game like this, I won’t have to hit the bottle so often. Later, guys. Go Bruins.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

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