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Portland Pilots at UCLA Bruins, Nov 26, 2009 7:30 PM PST


Well here we go. We are about to tip off a huge weekend here on BN with Ben Ball and UCLA football. Coach Howland and his Ben Ball warriors take on a 3-0 Portland Pilots team in the 76 Classic tonight at the Anaheim Convention Center.

We are going to watch to see how JA and his team-mates respond against a veteran Pilots bunch. For more on the game you can read up our roundup over here. Bruins will also have Dragovic available for this game as he might see some action off the bench. Here is to our guys playing classic Ben Ball with inspired on ball defense, solid rebounding and patient offense on other side of the court.

Tip off is scheduled for 7:30 pm PST. It will broadcast live on ESPN2 (warning the sleazebag, con-artist, fraudster aka Steve Lavin will providing "color" aka he just might be spouting BS about Bruins). You can also follow the game via official game tracker over here. For those who are following the game along this open thread, as always please free to share updates and scores so that other BNers across the nation who might not be fortunate enough to get live broadcast can follow along the fun.

So let's get this party started on Thanks Giving night. Fire away.

GO BRUINS.

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Has kind of exploded. Great stuff (and many thanks to those filling up the ideas in our comment thread).

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

Happy Thanksgiving, BN!

Well, looks like we are starting late. I hope you East Coasters can sleep in tomorrow! :)

I’m eating some blue and yellow Bruin chips. Trying to stay away from the blue. LOL!

GO BRUINS!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

Probably a good idea

to stay away from those blue ones. Haha.

by LongtimeBru on Nov 26, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

PS

A&M just cut the game to 3 points – 35-32. Great game.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

And Colt is off to the races!

And, of course, the Horns pick up a flag on the play

by bruinhoo on Nov 26, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

OT -- A&M Playing Texas Tough

A&M is very much like we are — rebuilding with good but not great talent. A new coach trying to build.

I don’t like UT because Mack Brown is a whiner — if you want to argue, see my old posts on this, I don’t care enough to expand on it.

UT has far more talent. Far more. But, A&M is playing like they want it more. Go Aggies.

Why am I putting this here? Because I think we will do the same thing to sc.

I’m going to have to turn off the A&M game to watch ours. But, I’m really hoping they pull off the upset — like I kow we will.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah just started watching that

Great game so far.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This should be a good barameter for UCLA

We’ve played some pretty horrible teams since that Fullerton debacle, and in my mind played to the level we should have in those games. I am very very interested to see how we come out against a team that defeated Concordia by 28 points.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed, especially

now that we’re back on national TV on ESPN2.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Should be interesting indeed.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Put up before that last run.

Also, you can see what a good QB can do with a great O line. Ours is making progress. Soon, we will have what we need up front.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

McCoy

… is so soo good. But it’s getting called back just a bit.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

Uh oh

huge run by Texas but an obvious block in the back negating the play by about 20 yards.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

Great pressure

by Texas A&M. They really do want this a lot more.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions  

Risk you have to take when their O line is so good.

We will have to take some risks on Sat too.

That’s how you beat better teams. Don’t you thnk?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, on the other hand

The way McCoy scrambled for that big run, reminded me of a little ok … ah … Kevin Prince in last 2 games. I think we might see some running lanes open up for KP on Sat with an ultra aggressive Trojan D

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny, I was thinking the same thing

wondering what Prince will be like when he has an O line like Texas

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

do either of these teams care about defense at all?

the tackling in this game makes ucla look like all americans

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

not that i'm complaining

because it makes for great entertainment :)

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Texas has some incredible receivers

and with the Aggie D, all they need do is make one man miss and they are off. They’ve been doing it all game.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

i’ve watched from the beginning.

and there’s another missed tackle…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know!

Texas actually has the best rushing D in the country and overall they are very good. They look like a different D tonight. A&M’s QB is doin a great job.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i know they do

which is why i’m wondering if they even care. It seems like they’re content with letting McCoy make his heisman statement and counting on him to outscore A&M

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

Hopefully our defense does something against this.

After three games, the Pilots are averaging 83.3 points and shooting a league-best 52.8 percent from the field and 52.1 percent from three-point range.

That is kind of scary. Our boys definitely have their work cut out for them.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

We are 5 pt favorites. I’m wondering why.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably our name and location of the game

but our D will have to step up BIG if we are going to win!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

ouch

long A&M run negated by an illegal shift, of all things

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

I know the odds guys are very accurate but ...

sc by 13 on Sat?

and, us by 5 tonight?

Not sure about either.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

agreed on both fronts

I would have SC as 7-10 pt favorites and tonight’s game as a pick

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

bucknell

are you back in LA for the Turkey day?

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

visiting some friends in Boston area. sure wish i was back though…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear ya

Huge hassle flying home during this time of the year.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

yep pretty much

plus it takes about 12 hours from school to my house…just not worth it for 3 days at home. Unfortunately i would’ve had a ticket waiting for me on saturday…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It's knowing what point spreads mean

They are actually designed to get the action split 50/50 onto each side. Maybe that helps explain why they are what they are sometimes. People who don’t follow the program closely will see that UCLA is playing Portland and just think that is a gimme game.

by turs12 on Nov 26, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Trying to make money

off the suckers who don’t do any research.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

big time 3rd and 15 conversion for A&M

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Minnesota wins

and they looked very solid tonight. Not to look ahead or anything, but if we do manage to beat Portland, we’ll have a huge challenge in Minnesota.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

What a throw by Johnson!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

Man

What an entertaining football game!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

I am going to the game tomorrow!

I told my group that I’d be there “uncomfortably early” so they’d better be ready. I WILL sit near Howland tomorrow! Anyone have an idea how uncomfortably early I should be?

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

wow

Johnson with another perfect TD pass. He’s been incredible tonight

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions  

What an incredible game

really inspires me. We can do the same thing Sat.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions  

YES WE CAN!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you serious???

What a touchdown!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions  

A&M needs a stop at some point

which is much easier said than done

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:14 PM PST reply actions  

Thanksgiving?

I don’t even know what that means, hahaha.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

tcelt

If you attack any of the BN community members one more time, you will be gone (and can take your garbage back to the Celt blog or wherever you came from).

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

that wasn’t even fair. TD Texas.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

Oh no

wow – Kickoff return for Texas. 6 points!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

Jeeze.

Some awesome playmaking on this field tonight

by bruinhoo on Nov 26, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

unbelievable

this game is insane

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

eventually

if A&M scores with little enough time they’ll just have to onside kick. that’s the only way they’re getting a stop haha

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions  

I had that feeling number of times

while watching the game against Miami on December 5, 1998. Sigh.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

5:20 until tip-off

I am excited to see what we’ve got.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

same here!

Been reading every post/comment on here for months now, finally signed up tonight to join in the fun with you guys!

happy thanksgiving all and GO BRUINS!

by Chris09 on Nov 26, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Last warning tcelt

If you attack any of the members here one more time, you will be gone.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:20 PM PST reply actions  

For real

now he’s insulting Laker fans too. Shady.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean I don't like the Lakers either

but you can at least afford to be coherent and reasonable, especially if you claim to be a UCLA fan.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Semi-articulate would be nice.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

and a&m start on the Texas 40

this is unbelievable

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

starts*

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh geez

the Lizard on screen now. Tell me what you got Lizard.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

here's to Jerime having a breakout game

and shutting that joker up

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

What a catch!

WOW!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

a SICK catch on 3rd down by the Aggies

they just won’t quit

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

Bruins get the tip

but can’t cash in on the first possession.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

GO BRUINS!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

Arrrgh

3 misses from point blank.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

Nice

D! That is Bruin D!

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

can't tear my eyes away from the football game lol

so i’ll be doing some quick remote work

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

4th and 3 for A&M coming up

on the 6 yd line

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

assuming they're gonna kick the FG

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

nice D by Gordon

held his ground

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

YES

So far on D I am liking the hedges and the switches (except for that open three).

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

injured Longhorn

delaying the 4th down play

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions  

Nice!

And timed perfectly with Lav’s pencil work!

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions  

Man I wasn't around UCLA for Lavin

but his color commentary is making me very angry.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

he excelled at yelling MOVE MOVE. GOOD!
MOVE.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

FG is NO GOOD

and that should do it

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions  

23 yarder

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Again

Makes me appreciate Kai.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

was thinking the same thing

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Texas takes over with 3:15 left up 10

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions  

I believe

he is in Turkey

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Playing in Turkey, I believe someone posted here recently that he was one of the league’s leading scorers over there (top 10ish I think)

I have my #3 Shipp/Lee jersey on right now

by Chris09 on Nov 26, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

all style no substance

fits him to a t…

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice steal by ML

but we need to finish on those.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

Son of Jack

Sikma? Wow.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

Portland is getting the ball inside easily

need to put more pressure on the ball on the perimeter

by Kegorator on Nov 26, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Nice steal!

JA was basically handed thato ne.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

are there some bumps in that floor?

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

game tied even though

we are shooting 25 and they are shooting 60

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions  

A couple of steals

and lack of offensive finishes account for that.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

you can’t give them those.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

Defender just blows by ND

He is TERRIBLE defensively … freaking atrocious.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

RN needs to learn how to guard his man

while still being aware of what else is going on on the court. Ughhhhh the frustrations of freshmen.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

ML at point?

JA out after making a terrible pass and letting his man burn him for a layup

by Kegorator on Nov 26, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

offense just looks ugly

no penetration, no inside out passing, no nothing. just holding the ball and swinging it around outside.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

Our players look confused

out there against the zone. Reminds me of the ASU game last year.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

seems like the whole team

has gotten lethargic. on both ends.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

good thing we reinstated him..

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

this will be one of the worst shooting teams ucla has had in a while

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry guys

but there is no excuse for a ucla squad to be this bad in Howlands 7th year….

He still plays ND even though he is useless…

The team looks unprepared against a zone… again…

We have slow long players, yet refuse to play a zone and only play man to man…

BH needs to do some soul searching because business as usual isn’t working…

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions  

The only thing that might work now is

our defense creating turnovers and getting fast break points because our half court offense is struggling without a legitimate PG

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 26, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

I still can't believe the lack of adjustments

that Howland has made from last year to this year and throughout this year. My biggest concern with him is he’s stubborn and sticks to his system, regardless of the personnel. Who knows though. Maybe he’s right and it will work out in the end. I just don’t see it happening.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

that and the subpar recruiting is killing him. You can’t be two season away for three final fours in a row and have zero talent. This squad is just flat out not good and his unwillingness to adjust is just killing us.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Outscored 9-2

since ND entered the game. Completely worthless.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Lee and Gordon

are the only two who are really bringing energy on both ends

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Agree

Also seem to be the only ones with footspeed

by Kegorator on Nov 26, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

ND goes out

and we score. Go figure.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

IF ND is in the game

he is not allowed to do anything but shoot. No dribbling. No passing.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Even so

he also has to go on the other end and play defense. So the only viable option is to not play him.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

this team was hurt bad when love left then holiday…..both one and done

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

Funny how much better we played in the games

that ND was suspended. Think there is anything to that?

by LongtimeBru on Nov 26, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

horrible charge call

flop of the year goes to #44 on Portland

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

anderson shouldnt be playing pt…lee should

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

MAN

this is frustrating! We keep getting 2nd and 3rd opportunites and can’t convert RIGHT under the basket!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

the team looks much better defensively

when ND is not in (even though they converted there in last posession).

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

HOLY CRAP WE SUCK EVERYONE IS HORRIBLE

you guys do realize that if we make a few layups, it would be tied.

Calm. Down.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

except about ND

he really does suck…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding

Just need to keep ND out of the lineup.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

True

It actually doesn’t feel like we are in the game but we totally are. We just need to convert with more consistency.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That being said though

if we keep this up we should be worried.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

you mean we might be good enough with some breaks

to tie the Portland Pilots?

That would be an awesome accomplishment!

Not to be snarky, but cmon. This isn’t Kansas we are playing (yet)

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

you do know that Portland beat Oregon and is supposed to challenge Gonzaga

who, by the way, just won the Maui Invitational

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

We are UCLA

playing the second best team in the WCC in anaheim and almost being tied with a few lucky breaks in CBHs 7th year is problematic to me.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

there's this thing called rebuilding

it happens when you lose 4 starters and the 5th guy somehow got worse.

Sure I thought we’d be better than this, but I fully expect us to improve. it’s the 4th game of the season.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

OOOOHHH

ok THAT was nice DG!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

drew

gordon is the best player on this team …..ucla cant afford him in foul trouble

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry, but ND is not responsible for all of this

I’m not his biggest fan, but in the game I’m watching, no one is playing particularly well.

We are not shooting well or rebounding well.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

He might not be

But we started sagging defensively after he came in and they went on a 9-2 run. He is not a good basketball player and doesn’t deserve the mins he is getting.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

wow the Pond is empty

can’t be more than 2000 people there. entire upper deck and most of lower deck is a sea of blue

by TheTJCummingsEra on Nov 26, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

Anaheim Convention Center

not the Pond.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And not the Pond

the Honda Center.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And I suppose the Ducks

will always be the Mighty Ducks to you! Haha

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

where's bobo?

Haven’t seen him in a while, but I thought he was recovered from his injury and looking good. Anyone know why he’s missing?

by Class of 09 on Nov 26, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

Look up previous discussions

before asking repetitive questions. Thanks.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry N

I searched Bobo but somehow forgot to search Morgan for some reason.

by Class of 09 on Nov 26, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

notice how JA had nothing to do with that offense

point guards backing out of the offense should not be at ucla

by lilbobdog on Nov 26, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

I apologize if I ruffle any feathers

but for everyone saying CBH needs to switch things up on D and play a zone: he’s not going to do it so there’s really no point in even discussing it. If you want UCLA to play zone, you might as well ask for another coach. HOWLAND DOES NOT DO ZONE. He never has, and he never will.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

No way

ND should be playing. Leave him on bench or at home. Anderson needs help, agree that Lee should run point. Not surprised we have a “transition year”. Not a problem with Howland.

by Vanman7475 on Nov 26, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

Sh*tsticks

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

we are taller than portland

but other than that, they are better in every aspect (today)

by hicalliber on Nov 26, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

Sad to see

our team playing so poorly. Missed chip shots, missed FTs, dumb turnovers, lousy shooting %. Defense is better than I expected but offense is bringing us down.

by Vanman7475 on Nov 26, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

Keefe come on

we need more hustle than that.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

it's midnight here, plus this thread and this game are both depressing me

so i’m going to bed. night all. Here’s to me missing a comeback.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 26, 2009 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

Sadly

It is lot uglier at other places. We are being fairly nice compared to what is being written at other places. Howland bears responsibility for what is going right now and he is not certainly making the right decision in terms of ND’s min allocation on the court.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If only ND's minute allocation were his biggest mistake

That’s a mistake right now, but his inflexibility with his system has been a mistake from day one of the season and he’s done nothing to change since.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

keefe is so lethargic

if i was wearing “UCLA” on the front of my jersey, I would be killing people out there

by hicalliber on Nov 26, 2009 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

JK is doing what he can

but he is not killing the team like ND is. Watch JK closely .. the offense flows a little better through him. ND is just terrible at all phases of this game.

by Nestor on Nov 26, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He lost the CSUF game for his

with his unwarranted minutes.

I am sure we will see the same thing tonight. CBH is not one to change quickly. If he likes ND, he will stay in. Remember how well RN played against CSUF and still he got sent to the bench for the terrible ND.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He did last year.

Not sure if he is in shape yet. Since injury.

by LongtimeBru on Nov 26, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

it will be a long yr this yr this team doesnt turnover the other team enough

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

Nice block

by Nelson. I like that kid.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

YEAH REEVES!

and the annomcer said “Fascinating haircut” LOL

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

there is absolutely no movement in our offense

meaningless passes on the outside and desperation shots

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

Absolute Bullshit Call

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

Where was the foul

and nice way to pick up the driver guys.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

worst part...

Lavin has got to be LOVING this

by TheTJCummingsEra on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

I know

I’ve been thinking that too and its making me sick.

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

ND

you are absolutely killing me.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

DRAGOVIC!

I’ve been trying to avoid criticizing him…but he SUCKS.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

You need to call out the person responsible for him being in

He is not the one deciding he gets playing time.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would any team not play a zone against UCLA

every single game? When have we ever played well against a zone…

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

OMG

Get ND outta there!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

We can talk about players making mistakes all we want

but it all comes back to CBH. Just a flat out awful job by him this year. We’ve got a ways to go, but the lack of flexibility is concerning. Let’s go Coach, it’s time to step it up.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

square peg meet round hole.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not all ND

which of our players is playing well?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

REAL BAD

this is a real real bad ucla team this season might get ugly real fast

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

Geez

I don’t want to be negative but they’re gonna double up our bitch ass

by bruin_2K on Nov 26, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

another horrible shooting half against the zone

how many games have we seen this?

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

And our offense is looking to get open jump shots

Explain that logic to me? That system worked fine when we had AA, JS and DC, but we don’t have those types of shooters are are still attacking the zone the same way.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Who's able to get inside though?

The only person who can get to the rim off of a dribble is JA, and half of the time he gets there, he misses the layup.

by Class of 09 on Nov 26, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Our boys need

to step it up. This is an embarrassment.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

Well, I was hoping to have finished the drinking tonight with dinner

Certainly not going to happen, given witnessing this performance

by bruinhoo on Nov 26, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

I poured another one a few minutes ago

The one effective thing we’ve done against the zone, getting it into Roll and Keefe at the high post seems to have been taken away or not even attempted… Want to see ML drive AND finish some more!

by Chris09 on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

OK

I am a positve person with my Bruins, but WTF is going on? It feels like a joke. They can’t control the ball for a last second shot. Man, this is embarassing. Step it up guys!!!

"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel

by uclafan11 on Nov 26, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

i try to stay positive

but i would be surprised if we broke .500

by hicalliber on Nov 26, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Losing Abdul Gaddy to UW

really hurt us because we need a true PG to run our offense

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 26, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

i really dont think that there is much howland can do with this team they r so bad shooting and understanding what they suppose to do

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

????

no, we are way too tentative. Everyone turns down wide open looks. CBH has them scared too shoot. Call me crazy.

by hicalliber on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

How about not running such a complex offense

that is predicated on a great PG, which we don’t have, a good shooting wing, which we don’t have and great execution, which is tough with such little experience. Coaches need to put their players in the best situation to succeed and adjust to their players. CBH isn’t doing that. Blame starts at the top and extends down to the players. Nobody is excused.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We're doing okay

on defense despite the crazy high FG% on Portland’s side. Those guys have been nailing some pretty difficult shots.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

That being said

I’m crazy worried about our offense.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

They've gotten some open ones too

and were 2nd in the country in 3 point % last year. They returned all 5 starters from that team. They’re flat out good shooters. If we’re going to sit around and hope for misses, we’re going to look even worse in the second half.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Make me appreciate DC, RW even more

gosh, with a dominant program like UCLA, we should have several talented PG on the team

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

There is absolutely no movement in our offense -- just perimeter passing

lot’s of guys standing around.

no go to guy

Might as well go deeper on the bench and see if anyone can bring some energy

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

+1

ML can be that guy. He just needs to realize it.

by hicalliber on Nov 26, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m impressed with the flashes of brilliance I’ve seen in ML’s game.

by Centric on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee can't shoot.

You can’t be a go-to guy when you can’t shoot.

by bluebland on Nov 26, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It's been done before

In college, you can get away with being a below-average shooter. Without a great PG though, you can’t do it in CBH’s system if you can’t shoot. In another system, it can be done.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 26, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't see the talent on the roster

for us to be much better.. Particularly if we insist on playing man to man defense with our slow foot speed and commitment to ND getting his minutes.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

our best leaders r bad roll and keefe suck…just sit back cause this will be a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG SEASON

by tcelt on Nov 26, 2009 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

If you fellow (male) Bruins want to feel better . . .

. . . flip over to Fox Sports West during halftime. Hooters’ “Snow Angles” is on.

by orlandobruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

No go-to guy out there.

A bunch of avg players right now. Hopefully someone will step up.

by LongtimeBru on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

Nobody on this team can shoot except Roll

That’s a problem. Keefe is as clumsy around the basket as he’s always been. Drago is the same inconsistent crap he’s always been. And there’s no evidence that a single one of our underclassmen has any idea how to shoot the ball

by bluebland on Nov 26, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

how can have a roster full of slow guys who can't shoot?

I am totally mystified at the roster… How could we have these great recruiting classes yet nobody know how to shoot

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprising lack of improvement in the soph class

really expected more from them and maybe we will see it later this year.

How can people say we have no talent when we had such highly rated recruiting classes.

Did we recruit the wrong kids? Or were they overrated?

Or have we not developed them?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 26, 2009 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

Well we still have a half to play

but I’d say defensively we’re about the same as the first game of the season.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 26, 2009 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

gordon

I would hate to see the +/- but would guess at half Gordon out is when the lead ballooned twice. 2 fouls was not worth watching the 1st half get away like that with ND and JK out there being worthless. I would rather go down with a spirited RN and effective DG drawing weak fouls. Gordon is improving by leaps and bounds over the 1st 4 games in my opinion and we can’t afford to have him out.

by Penny2i on Nov 26, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

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