Center Court: Ben Ball (Butler) Open Thread
by Nestor on Nov 27, 2009 7:30 PM PST
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Bruins (we should probably stop referring to stop our guys as "Ben Ball warriors" until they show are worthy of that moniker) are in the losers bracket tonight in Anaheim. They take on number 10 ranked Butler around 8:30 pm PST. It's the last game of the day and by the time they get to tipoff it will probably be around 9:00 pm PST. The game is on ESPNU.
If you want to get a general idea on Butler then don't really have anything encouraging to pass on at this point. The best we can hope for tonight for our guys to show a sense of pride by showing all tenacity and hustle on both sides of the court. Butler Bulldogs are very similar to Portland Pilots, except they are more athletic. They can shoot the three and have a pretty balanced scoring team with three players averaging in double figures. They are probably going to give the Bruins fits with a lot of zone and mixing it up with man-to-man so that they can confuse our back court even more. Everyone is expecting to manhandle our team unless we show a semblance of a pulse. For more on the game check out the preview via SBN's game page and the Sporting News.
So probably a huge chunk of us will not get to watch the game tonight. Not to mention all the BNers out in East Coast and the Midwest, will probably miss the game as well. If you don't have ESPNU you can listen and track via the official site here. If you are watching it, please consider postomg game score updates in our game thread as much as you. That way rest of the BNers who can't follow the game anywhere else can get direct updates from you in our game thread. It will be much appreciated.
Anyway, let's get the threading started. Hey, we have less than 24 hrs to go till the kickoff against Southern Cal. Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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those without ESPNU that want to watch
check out channelsurfing.net. There’s a link at the very bottom for our game.
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I've got ESPNU
but the game is not showing on the listings after the Portland-Minnesota game.. Hoping it’s an error.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
It was the same way
yesterday. I couldn’t see the UCLA game on the ESPN2 listings but it still showed eventually.
yeah
it’s a great site. also what i’ll be using to watch the game tomorrow (unfortunately lol)
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
mbootymah putting up a stream??
Some of our international folks need an private stream…justin.tv is telling me my country is at maximum number of viewers! HELP!
ESPN U just posted that UCLA will be the next game
Minnesota closing on Portland. Six point game now.
sjh
Portland
looks good against a decent Minnesota squad. Sort of like Gonzaga 10 or 11 years ago.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Portland vs. Minn
Final Score: Portland 61, Minn. 56
Alright.
Portland is obviously a legitimate mid level team. Still shouldn’t have been blown out by them, but hey I’ll take anything.
WTF? Getting some stupid show called Campus Connection
anyone else?
Will we get the game when it starts?
sjh
Ouch!
That hurts. Immediately after Portland beat Minnesota, Andy Katz of ESPN remarked to the Portland coach that they just had a quality win in beating Minnesota, and Katz then said it was their first of the year, that he didn’t believe beating UCLA was a quality win for Portland. Wow. Can you believe that? When a program with such a lowly tradition beats our Bruins and the announcer doesn’t qualify it as a quality win. I must admit, that hurt a little. To the Portland coaches defense however, he quickly stated that beating UCLA was a quality win.
I really hope our boys can bring it tonight, and at least put up a fight and show signs of having some pride in wearing that uniform. I want to see some bruises and knee burns tonight.
It stings. A lot.
But we haven’t done anything to prove that it is a quality win. I don’t really blame the announcer for the de facto disrespect. I’m just hoping to wake up from this UCLA bball nightmare.
OK -- Back to our game
It’s late here an I won’t last for the entire game.
But, I have to see who we start and how we come out.
Come on Bruins — play like warriors.
sjh
hope it does
not really sure why it disappeared…
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
please and thank you
the link we had shut off…all updates are appreciated
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
a day late
but thankful no Lavin tonight, at least
wow
ND nice play throwing ball off defender as going out
Butler faking 3s
getting our guys in air, gets a 2. score 8-11
you're probably right
but with the number of airballs the other guys have put up this year it couldn’t be that much worse
might be more people on BN
than at the game, judging by the “crowd” shots
just an fyi for those watching on computers
Boise State – Nevada on ESPN2 has gotten interesting. 27-19 BSU in the 3rd
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because JK turned his back on ball retreating from hedge
and then JK commits offensive foul so we lose the ball
sjh
dirty playing by their guy
The announcers pointed it out. Their player, Howard, held DG’s bandaged arm in an awkward position. Actually, probably was not trying to hurt him. Just not clean.
from what i've seen of Butler
I really, really don’t like Howard
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
i'm seeing signs of ben ball defense
the effort and thought is clearly there. the execution just isn’t quite up to our standards yet. But i think we’re improving
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as bad as we might be
at least we’re doing pretty well getting the ball inside. it took half the season to do that when we had KL.
DG second attempt at hook
both missed, but like the idea
Can't score from the inside
DG missed twice. 19-11 Butler, 9:47 left.
Foul on MR
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Roll called for a foul
i don’t think he touched the guy
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ND burned on D
then commits a useless foul
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also ND should not be guarding Mack
bad foul but it’s not really his fault he got blown past
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
drago
missing the rebound resulting in the 3
We want them to take that long 3 though
There’s no way they make that shot too often.
i was hoping for a reason to stay awake past halftime tonight
but it’s not looking too good.
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actually BSU-Nevada is giving me a reason lol
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Just checking in
and howdy. So, um… why exactly are we getting our asses handed to us already?
GO BRUINS!!!
and we can't
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
poor d, they get wide open 3's and we are shooting under 40%
we started with better energy but faded quickly
sjh
can't win w/o defense
we have so little weapon that playing this kinda D means we’ll lose most game
white and slow
no offense on skin color but that’s true
Roll's an underrated defender
but your point is valid
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
roll plays smart and within the system
even though he isn’t as athletic as others
something's wrong...
why does ND keep finding himself defending a guard?
finally!!!
defense leading to fastbreak offense
ML drive, miss
DG follows up but misses FT for 3
What's up with DG's shoulder?
I know, I’m a loser for not knowing this, but this is the first game I’ve been able to watch this season.
GO BRUINS!!!
I don't know either. I've been wondering
Somebody please explain. It doesn’t seem to really impact his game.
I may be wrong (I probably am)
But I don’t think it’s injured? A lot of athletes (like those olympic volleyball players) are wearing that athletic support tape on their shoulders
We're attacking a little more
At least we’ve gotten the ball inside a few times with DG and RN. Even if they don’t convert every shot, it’s nice to see something other than passing around the perimeter and 3 point attempts
I like that JA is more active tonight
We’ll never get anything done with him standing around passing the ball.
strong finish by BL
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
ML brick 3
Roll gets board, BL basket and fouled
How do we feel about BL?
Solid player, but does he really belong at UCLA?
yep
the energy is the key – most energy we’ve had all year so far
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
now see
that’s something I’ve noticed that Anderson can do well, penetrate and dish. He doesn’t have much of a touch in the lane, but he has a strong move to the middle of the key.
interesting that all of our bench players are getting minutes
Seems like Howland is just seeing what everyone can do
3 games in 4 days
he’s got to spread it around, no?
by Give me a B... on Nov 27, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
energy is great
but we need more composure right now
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i really like Moser's game
hope he gets more PT
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raining 3s!
freshies playing better than sophomores
amen
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like all these 3s
We’re not going to keep making them.. that’s not our strength
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Appreciate the updates ML
Don’t have fast internet access here so I love the running updates, keep them coming.
GO BRUINS
That was pretty flagrant
he might as well get the guy’s phone number if he’s gonna grope him like that
GO BRUINS!!!
we look pretty good guys
when we get Honeycutt back and the players are comfortable playing together, I think this could be a good team. Too thin at PG though. They just need to settle into Howland’s system and the season.
ND burned again
that matchup needs to stop happening
ND cannot play D, guy drives around him and he fouls
Last night Nestor was keeping track of what happened with ND in game.
our strong run came without him.
I’d like to let the young guys play — they brought us back
sjh
he seems fine guarding bigger players
that time there was a switch between him and ML, but ML didn’t come back to his man, so ND was stuck guarding a guard again…then he either backs up and leaves the open 3 or gets blown by. the first time #1 drove on him, there was no help defense, so I figure this time he just fouled since he didn’t expect any help.
Disappointing crowd here
I was expecting a very pro-UCLA crowd and while there are more Bruins than anyone else here, it’s not overwhelming.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 27, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions
You there? If so, yell at CBH to yank ND, Pleassssee..
by 84 on Nov 27, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
JA, ML, MM, RN, DG
is what I’d like to see for a bit
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He was too busy ripping apart Brandon Jennings tonight
by 84 on Nov 27, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the NCAA will make an exception
Let him donate his salary to charity or something.
he showed flashes last year
that just make waiting for his breakout game excruciating!
Best new word of the year, thanks to announcer
Stick-to-it-tive-ness
over hustling on ND's part
bad foul but at least it wasn’t a lazy one
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anyone looking for halftime entertainment
ESPN2 – Nevada vs Boise St is in the 4th quarter
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or CBS College Sports
if you’re one of the 8 people that get it. Just past half: #5 Kentucky 34…Stanford 38!
that's a replay from 2 days ago...
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
haha
it’s a good game though. keep watching if you don’t know who wins lol
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
OK brothers and sisters -- too late for a Texas Geezer to stay up more. Bring it home for us please.
sjh
Goodnight. Only 7:54 here. I think I can last it out for you.
by 84 on Nov 27, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
you in hawaii?
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
lucky guy...lol
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
my thoughts
bench ND (no surprise)
play more MM, RN, maybe BL
ML to point with green light to run, shoot (I can dream, right?)
Ok, where were THESE guys yesterday?
Much better energy, effort, and flow tonight! Just hope ND can get his defnsive act together befor Pac-10 seasin starts.
Still
have to tighten up that D. Too many open looks.
by Give me a B... on Nov 27, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
yep
but at least it’s not lack of effort tonight. it’s simply lack of experience
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
I hate ripping on Roll
because he’s been on 3 final four teams, but he and Nikola Dragovic, along with Keefe are not Pac-10 level, high D1 players. Look at Duke. They’re 6-0 and there seemingly is never a decline in that program or a lull. I know Roll’s been around since the beginning of the big run, but ND and JK are just wastes of scholarships. Keefe should be doing a lot better at this point, but we’re relying on Gordon for inside offense. Those 3 are really wastes of scholarships, when K’s getting the Sheyers and McRoberts. Keefe and Drago were miscalculations on Howland’s part, no doubt about it.
Disagree
Roll is a great D1 player. Just needs a D1 point guard to open up his shot. He generally plays with poise and makes good decisions.
by 84 on Nov 27, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
a D1 guard should be able to take his defender with
a certain move. Roll has it, I’ve seen it, but he doesn’t always make that quick dribble for fake to open a drive and quick release shot. Many times he’s too slow and the defender is right up on him. He delays that move, wastes time, when he should go baseline and have the defender.
roll is good... from the bench
can’t create, can’t dribble, can’t keep up on D… but a good deep threat from the bench
he'd be much more useful
if we had people that could drive and then pass out to him
I highly disagree that
that Roll is a great D1 player. A great D1 two guard should be a serious weapon, ESPECIALLY at UCLA. Afflalo and Westy were good 2 guard weapons. Brandon Roy was one for Washington, Nick Young for SC.
JK is alright just didn't have the opportunities
i think it’s just bad luck for him 3 offseason injuries… he actually can play high post and has a midrange shot and can pass… could’ve played Mbah a Moute’s spot better on offensive side
Thank goodness he quit reaching out and smacking the opposing players
and it was never even anywhere near the ball. It seemed like he didn’t have a single good foul last year.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Keefe is still around?
Yikes. Again, haven’t been paying attention to Ben Ball this year, but good heavens… seems like he’s been here forever.
GO BRUINS!!!
I've been trying to figure out Duke
and I think I found a reason for their relative success.
UCLA and Duke both have tremendous history. Coach K, however, is able to keep legit high-level D1 players to stay for 4 years, whereas CBH hasn’t. I personally believe that Howland prepares players for the NBA better than any coach in the country, but he is admittedly brutal in his practices. Coach K has recently coached every best player in the NBA during the Olympics, and knows how to inspire kids to stay in school for 3-4 years. I still would rather take CBH over anyone else, but K manages to convince them to stay because even the LeBrons and Kobes of the world enjoy being coached by him.
Look, I’m not even a Duke fan. I just respect their coach’s ability to keep high talent around for multiple years.
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Nevada down 8 in the 4th, coughs it up on their end
BSU trying for the KO
by Give me a B... on Nov 27, 2009 10:01 PM PST reply actions
still gets FG
score now 37-26 with 11 min left
Can't see the tv from the computer
major design flaw in my apartment. Why is the game close?
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Nevada is just a good team
playing solid D after the disastrous 1st quarter and controlling the clock with their run game
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
new rankings haven't come out yet
they’ll slip to around 20 if they win the rest of their games this weekend. another loss and they’ll be out
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if it'll last though
They do have an advantage early with their experience. They’ll lose a lot of that as the season goes on and more talented players on opposing teams gain experience.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN recap OKC/Bucks
headline: Westbrook gets best of Jennings as Thunder bag Bucks
starts: OKLAHOMA CITY — Kevin Durant had 33 points and 12 rebounds, Russell Westbrook outplayed rookie Brandon Jennings, and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Milwaukee Bucks 108-90 on Friday night.
Westbrook scored nine of his 20 points during a 17-0 run over the first 6 1/2 minutes of the second half. He also helped hold Jennings to 3-of-11 shooting and 12 points, 11.4 below his average.
(sorry to offend those looking for block quotes if possible – idk how)
do the Clippers play the Bucks anytime soon?
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
just noticed
Gadzuric starting C for Bucks…11 minutes, 2 fouls, 2 points
Best part was that in the pregame show of that game...
Mark Jackson said that B. Jennings was the best PG in the East and should start in the all star game. Then Westy just shreds him. Most of Jennings points came when RW was out of game.
just noticed in box score
Gadzuric starting C for Bucks…11 minutes, 2 fouls, 2 points
Dan Guerrero (the other DG)
still representing the Blue and Gold well.
“There is a game tomorrow. A high powered rivalry between THAT OTHER TEAM across town and the UCLA Bruins.”
Good for him. He has his flaws, but overall, he’s a solid Bruin IMO.
can't wait to wear
my tattered old SUC shirt tomorrow!
As for the 2nd half...
don’t love our chances of pulling it out with Howard set to play this half, but you never know. I’d just love to see the freshmen get some more minutes. With that kind of energy on the floor, anything could happen
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JAnderson
Is not ready. Read an article on Trojan times and Anderson was “hurt” that he didnt get to start last year because Collison stayed.
His turnover ration is horrible and his defense is poor. Cant stay in front of his man and he rotates poorly to boot.
Only if ML gets more aggressive
It’s almost as if he feels that he needs to stop driving when he’s playing point.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Chris Peterson is 46-4 as a head coach
lol that’s ridiculous
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35>19
Nice half offensively, nice job mixing in a lot of players
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I wish we could get Arron Afflalo to come back,
visit with ML and teach him how to take that leadership role. Take it personally to defend their best perimeter player.
wild shot by ML
rebound by JK and he’s fouled
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halftime highlight reel for Butler
featured ND getting burned, burned, burned
hits the 2nd
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
for those watching football like I was
our game is back on!
JK has always struck me as a foul magnet
as in committing them
that was just a crazy possession all around...
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ND was fouled by whoever's guarding him on the rebound
refs missed it completely
hints of ben ball
neutralize their best player~!
true, but not in the same way
It’s very interesting
Previous teams have had one player (AA, RW, etc) who are shut-down defenders)
This team seems to be on track to take away their ‘best’ player as a team effort
It’s cool to watch, but one weak link (cough cough ND cough cough) will destroy it
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
yeah we're not exactly doing with D
more like getting him in foul trouble
THATS WHY I LOVE RN!
he will be our next Aboya
People will start to think twice before going into the paint or challenging him
I'd hate to be the guy
RN lays his shoulder into
RN is like mark madsen nba version
hustle but looks like boy playing among men
play is under review
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
and confirmed as a TD
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
CBH needs to lock this team in the gym one night
and just force them to shoot FTs
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Seriously
I can make half of my FTs, and I can barely make a layup. It’s not that difficult if you practice it. Unless your name is Mata.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
BS call on Lee
he has a right to that spot if he gets there first…
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were we REALLY?
Is CBH starting to adapt to the game?
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
crazy back and forth
Roll bricks 3 – still 44-47
this game is getting hectic
I feels like that favors our youth
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I would hope so
but not sure it will. At least fast is better than slow for us.
i think RN
but not positive
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
can't see while I type
so miss something here and there
Clearly I'm not the only one watching online
it’s hard to tell one player from another
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
just by the move before the pass
it looked like RN
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
yup it was a -8 2mins
missing transition points and letting them turnaround to score on us
Roll misses two wide-open three to tie it
That’s how winnable games are lost. He HAS to make shots like that.
Eh
The 3 is a relatively low percentage shot. If we made our FTs we’d be winning.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Good teams make 50% of their threes
It’s not low-percentage when it’s wide open
Portland was 2nd in the country from 3 last year
and shot 41% so tell me about how those good teams shoot 50%.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 27, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Respectfully disagree,
winnable games are lost by turnovers and missed free throws. Can’t always expect the threes to go in, even the wide open ones. But I can expect a high percentage of free throws and a small amount of turnovers
the only upside
One more, and we’ll have to put him on the bench. so sad. He’s so detrimental to the team
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
give me a f**king break refs
what a BS call on ND
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that's not his fault at all
that call hasn’t been made once all game
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
foul on ND
his 4th…I really didn’t see anything remotely foul-worthy
He touched the ball
so they just assumed it was a foul
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Horrible foul call on the rebound
Although, it was probably on ND, so maybe not the worst thing ever.
what happened to MM and BL?
get the kids some PT
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granted, against Tennessee Tech,
but Kansas shot 61% tonight. They’re going to kick our asses up one side of the court and down the other. I’d be happy to keep the margin under 30.
lol at a poster in the justin tv room
“Dragovic has 4 fouls, bad news for UCLA”
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block on DG
didn’t like it at first, replay looks like right call
yeah he was there late
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
DG had a good thought there
just needed to decide whether he wanted to block or take the charge
time for more freshmen...
4th foul on DG. ND in for MM for some reason.
i think he wants to come out
lol
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
maybe that's a good play
ND bricks, crash board put back!
a WTF shot by ND
but nice putback by someone (couldn’t see who)
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All of a sudden they're missing their 3s and FTs
by Give me a B... on Nov 27, 2009 10:34 PM PST reply actions
That's the reason they won't do anything in the NCAA tournament
Every team has cold shooting nights.
Our Bruins need to develop great defense.
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Announcer dead on
occasionally it looks like we’re “running our offense but not looking to score”
no blockout from ND
leads to offensive board
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RN gets Butler player
to commit 4th foul under his own basket!
I need some help from BN!
OK, my boyfriend is new to the UCLA u$c rivalry and he asked me why I hate petey. I gave a couple of examples, but can you all weigh in? Should’nt be too hard! LOL. Thanks!
GO BRUINS!!!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
look up the enormous list of cheats by SUC over the past decade. It's in the archives on this site
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
he runs up the score then gets pissed when other coaches do it to him
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
hmmm.
He’s at $C. His players earn as much now as they might if they move on to Sundays. His players are cheap shot artists. He can’t take it when others pile on the points after having done so himself repeatedly. He thinks he’s hot shit and has seen his team drop this year when his coordinators left. Ask for more on the home page tomorrow and you’ll get lots of responses.
Back to the game… :)
well
great hustle by ND on the loose ball. Give him that much
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wow
ND nice hustle diving to get ball going out of bounds. Don’t think he got it, but I’m impressed.
give the guy a break
that’s a borderline impossible save but he still laid out 100% to try and make it
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't have had to do that
if he didn’t let his guy blow by him like that. Or if he’d gotten the rebound.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
i'm not saying he's good...
i’m just saying i appreciate his hustle. I’m not gonna turn every positive thing he does into a negative
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, yes then
I did appreciate his hustle. That looked painful on the landing.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
I've said it since game one...
And, more seem to agree tonight. But ND has no business on the floor. I know CBH has a soft spot for him (and maybe he’ll prove me wrong). But, he’s somewhere between mediocre and just aweful. It doesn’t help that his police record resembles that of a SUC athlete…don’t we pride ourselves as being better than that? – both the play and police record?!
by bruin_nerd on Nov 27, 2009 10:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
and the guy misses both
They’re clearly bothered
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Help side defense
We’ll be a lot better if we ever figure it out.
under 8 min
48-53, 4th foul on another Butler player
MR pushes off
and gets 3rd foul before Butler even inbounds
Okay, I get that Tiger Woods had a fender-bender
But honestly, does that warrant a banner on ESPN ALL freaking day?
GO BRUINS!!!
just like regular "news" channels...
follow one celebrity f-up until the next one happens
It was only important
because the initial report was that he was seriously injured.
Nobody knew what that meant exactly
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
I also love that the news outlets are slipping in the domestic dispute thing
They say that reports of a domestic dispute are unsubstantiated, but still manage to get it out there.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
i'm still not sure
how he bumped into a fire hydrant and was “on the ground drifting in and out of consciousness”
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
especially
when said over and over and over and over…
ML needs to drive to the basket, NOW!
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 27, 2009 10:43 PM PST reply actions
another gem from the online chat
“UCLA may go 0-fer in conference”
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VERY tough call
He got a lot of ball, but also a lot of body
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Bad play on his part
He shouldn’t have left his man like that.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
DG block and supposedly foul
his 5th. replay shows BS call
He just wanted to reset the offense
so he threw it at the opposing player’s foot. Good call, really.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
JA needs to do something when he has the ball
instead of just dribble. He’s not a threat to drive or shoot
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
JA is a liability on offense
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 27, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions
we're sticking around
but we need another run
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
JA apparently colorblind
wearing white, throws to black jersey
yeah that was awful
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
ND to the line for 2
we’re right in this thing
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ND 3!
then Butler inbound turnover, ND gets ball, fouled on 2 attempt
it's sad but true
lol
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
The saddest part is that I don't think he was recruited to start
Roll either. I always thought they were meant to be solid backups.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care if they're pink or neon green
if they can get the ball in
OK guys
we need to make this worth staying up until 1
or 2...
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by bucknellbruin on Nov 27, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yay
Lilttle kids in commercials fill up their toy cars using toy credit cards.
And we wonder why we can’t limit consumer debt in this country.
GO BRUINS!!!
Do we take JC transfers? We need a legitimate PG soon!
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 27, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions
Hold tryouts?
Saw some pretty good points playing in Wooden…
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
by legit do you mean able to initiate an offense?
i haven’t seen one all season
It's SO difficult
to expect a PG to come in right away and assume the starting PG role of BH. Maybe this offseason, I’d agree
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, ND I promise not to say anything sarcastic about you this weekend
if you keep sinking shots like that
GO BRUINS!!!
Who was it that bad mouthed Lane right before he hit a 3?
Do it again, with someone who’s on the floor now?
wow - even the announcers said ND would shoot
before he even touched the ball. Way to mix it up.
by bruin_nerd on Nov 27, 2009 10:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I could have told you months ago
ND would shoot if he almost has the ball
Howard over the back
didn’t think they’d call it
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I think that's actually a credit to our defense
We handled him very well.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
butler's coach looks like he's gonna cry lol
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
these refs are a joke
they call a foul on every fucking play
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
now why can't JA do that in a normal setting?
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
14.0 left
Abdul-Hamid, someone else in for us – designated foulers
Why do they keep thinking JA hasn't shot yet?
He had even taken a shot before they said it the first time.
Even in a down year
3rd or 4th in the Pac 10 should do it.
by Class of 09 on Nov 27, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
good morning all
or good night to most of you. IDK if I’ll be on tomorrow night – doubt it. Can’t multitask during $C game. Hope to share happy posts after the game.
u know what... at least it was our best game this year.... but Roll and ND kills me
at least JA stepped up in the last 20secs
still a winnable game though
shot ourselves in the foot with 3pt 7/19 and FT 10/17
he was like 1 step forward 2 steps back
made a 3, made a stupid foul… got burned on D… at least he had a good 5 pt sequence
Roll
who said he was an underrated defensive player? the other guy was 6’9 and he couldnt stay in front of him
We fought in this game.
Much different from the last one. I still think ND plays too much. Waiting for him to get hot is not something we should be relying on with a young team.
GO BRUINS!!!
by moutekicksboute on Nov 27, 2009 11:16 PM PST reply actions
Argh
Roll’s last fouls were bad. Our free throw shooting still needs to improve a LOT. Great effort and a ton of improvement though.
hopefully JA takes those last few possessions
in stride and NEVER looks back! Here’s to JA turning the corner and an amazing saturday!
GO BRUINS!
Not one for moral victories
but after last night, who would have thought we would take the #10 team in the country to 0.6 seconds left. We’re not as bad as we thought. Howland is still a great coach. Beat SC!
by Give me a B... on Nov 27, 2009 11:18 PM PST reply actions
Uhh...
Am I the only one that’s incredibly frustrated with this game? I feel like JA had more TOs than assists, and our seniors are terrible
i'm with you...... roll and ND are horrendous they killed the game for us
mike missing crucial FTs, ND missing crucial shots and stupid fouls on D getting burned on D….. sigh
Did you watch the game yesterday?
I can live with this considering it’s less than 24 hours after seeing that. There was some effort today.
I'm with you too
Drago, Keefe and Roll are 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I sometimes wonder with Keefe, though, if Howland impedes him offensively. He seems to have some touch and strength around the basket and I think we could post him up a bit and get him the ball. He’s big and quick and I think could take a dribble and get to the hoop. He seems like he has a strong, quick move to the basket. I might be wrong. Just going off some moves of his in the past.
If Portland Beats WVA
does that mean they are in the top 10?
played better
well at least we played with spirit tonight. Incidentally I could not disagree with Katz more.. UCLA does not need a quality ooc win if Honeycutt comes back and is a player and somehow we got it together enough to finish 3rd in the Pac-10. I would bet any amount with him that a 3rd place finish would be enough… not that we can necessarily finish 3rd. However I do think the pac will not get 4 for the 1st time I think since the tourney went to 64.
yeah pac 10 is pretty bad this year
the #2 cal got beat bad….. so top 3… or pac 10 tourney magic?
Do you really think it's gonna be that easy to finish 4th?
We almost lost to concordia, lost to Fullerton, portland (blowout), and butler
pac 10 is pretty sad this year
but i can see a lot of growth with our freshies and sophomores and hopefully by the end of the season we can see roll and ND coming off the bench (probably not)
Remember we almost lost to Miami of Ohio last year, and Drexel a couple years back
CBH teams start off slowly because the players basically have to relearn playing basketball because his system is so strict. I think the team will improve. I am looking for a couple players to step up. If JA wants to be the starting PG, he better start leading with confidence, the PG cannot be timid.
BTW, Tyler Honeycutt has a very wiry thin build, I hope he could withstand college basketball
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 27, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
maybe
I do not think we can finish above 4th if Honeycutt is not the player we need him to be this year. However the Pac-10 is borderline horrible so far. The WCC has a stronger case for multiple teams at the moment then the Pac 10. At the end of the day however a 3rd team will step up or perhaps 2 if one of the top2 fall apart for some reason. I can’t imagine more than 3 coming out unless the conference ends up top heavy with the top3 and someone else makes a pac10 tourney run.
Pac 10 is going to be brutal for us this year
unless our OOC schedule happens to be filled with the absolute best not-easily-recognized basketball schools in the nation… like CSUF
No moral victories here
Improved over yesterday’s effort, but this is not acceptable. On the last in bounds pass do you think Drago could have at least jumped for the ball rather than give up on it? Mike Roll did not show any senior leadership in the last minutes—he was a defensive liability.
The tv analyst did say that if JA was not driving to the basket or looking to be a
threat, it is essentially 4 against 5. Teams are looking for Roll to come off the screens. Dragovic is easy to guard, plus he is inconsistent, so MLee should be handling the ball if JA is playing timid.
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 27, 2009 11:22 PM PST reply actions
Of course
We play this game on friggin ESPNU “The Ocho”
We ‘play’ (and I use that term very lightly) yesterday on nationally televised ESPN2
Fun to watch for our recruits…Oh wait…
all i want for christmas is
1. free throw shooting.
as bad as we were against fullerton, we win if we hit a few more freethrows, which isn’t much to ask since we shot around a 50% clip.
and today if we hit a few more fts maybe we win, who knows?
seems like we miss front ends of 1-and-1’s for sport
2. the jerime anderson in the last minute of the game, not the other dude who’s been around.
3. all our seniors to come off the bench, or stay on it
Across The Face
JA
2 shots do not salvage a pretty awful game, but maybe this will be a kick in the butt for him.. playing with urgency the 1st minute would be nice from him, but a 15 asst/20 TO ratio so far on the season is remarkably terrible. He also seems to not just make ill advised passes, but can’t make passes to players in their hands oftentimes. He needs to focus on delivering a clean, crisp, catchable ball.
Also I am wondering if we might make a few dribblers use their left hand or even try to play them where there might be help. How many clean baseline drives without help were there? To be honest if Butler shot the ball better from 3 we would not have had a chance to win this thing late. And they also did us a favor missing some key FTs in the final 5 minutes. Yes we still have a long way to go, but at least we showed some desire out there tonight.
my question
What if JA misses that shot? He took the ball and shot pretty much right away, not looking for any open players. I mean, he made it, so we were all happy (momentarily). But if he missed, it would have been a 100% awful game for JA (not just a 95% awful game)
He needs to get better. Much much MUCH better at every single imaginable facet of the game.
by longbordr52 on Nov 27, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
much improvement this game
but Im not sure how much of that is due to not seeing any zone.
That being said, the effort makes this game an “ok” loss, meaning its the type of loss to expect from a young UCLA team…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 12:19 AM PST reply actions
Just got back from some post gane activities
My simple analysis is that they looked much better on the hedges, doubled down on the big men much more effectively, and played a good notch or two above intensity wise than they did the game before. The one area that left a bit to be desired were on the switches. A couple of times some of the freshman flat out got lost on the switches which resulted in some wide open 3’s for Butler. Nikola played much better today but still has a lot of defensive issues to work through.
Also I’d be remiss if I did not point out the horrible officiating at the game. One of the officials even yelled at the UCLA bench to sit down towards the end of the game. I have NEVER seen that happen in a Division I basketball game.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
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