Not Our Night: Bruins Come Up Short Against (SPTR Blessed) Classless Trojans
The final score was 21-7 28-7 in favor of the bad guys tonight. Not surprisingly Chetey Petey being the hypocritical, SCumbag that he is poured it on when the game was already decided with a long bomb to the endzone (I wonder if Pom Pom's lapdogs - Bill Splashme or the TJ Slimers - will be crying about sportsmanship tomorrow). There is not much to say about that TD at this point because we know Chetey's true colors and what a classless jerk throughout his stained, corruption tainted career in South Central. What goes around, comes around and we will leave it that
Anway, as for the game, here is the box score from tonight's ball game in which the Bruins got killed by two crushing turnover that turned out to be the difference makers. The Bruin defense came out inspired playing their best half of the season and then continued it throughout the game gutting out a performance in which they held the Trojan offense to 14 points. I am not going to count the last 7 given at that point our defense didn't think the Trojies would be that classless even by their standards.
Mad props to Brian Price, Reggie Carter, Akeem Ayers, ATV, Kevin Craft, Chane Moline who gave everything they had today. The defense held the Trojies to less than 300 yards (not going to count that BS 48 yard bomb) and kept us in the game. While Kevin Craft came in and gave it everything he had to give us a legit chance when we closed it within 7. More after the jump.
The difference tonight was turnovers and mistakes. Bruins turned over the ball 4 times leading to 14 Trojan points and also killing a promising drive at the end of the first half. Prince came out looking erratic, overthrowing his receivers and then throwing a pick-6. Then in the second half he was undone by costly mistakes by his senior team-mate - Logan Paulsen (who has been making those mistakes all year) - that completely killed any sense of offensive momentum early on. He then got banged up by the Trojan defense, which led to his second pick (throwing with a bad shoulder).
Of course Bruins also got hosed (which seems to be a tradition against us in this particular game) by clueless refs that missed Mays' late hit, managed to get lobbied by Pom Pom to turn over a Rosario catch, and then completely blow a call on lateral which Jet Ski advanced for 26 yards. Depsite all the TOs and the surreal SPTRing, somehow the Bruins kept gutting it out thanks to gutsy peformance by the Bruin offense which under Kevin Craft closed it with 7 (7-14) with about 5 mins left in the game.
Still it just wasn't enough at the end. Our defense played prevent in the drive that really mattered and the Trojans used the cushion our DBs gave them to drive it down for a TD and put the game out of reach. As I mentioned up top, the Trojies went on to probably make the most classless move in this series, and a hypocrtical one given all the crying they did with Harbaugh's 2 point coversion just 2 weeks.
Obviously, there are strateiges on our coaches' part we can question. Off the top of my head, I don't get why we keep seeing Moline in Cheetah formation, and why we didn't see more speed from our side in the form of Jet Ski, Knox and Thigpen (although JetSki's fumble kined of answer that question).
Anyway, at the end this wasn't our night. As for the immediate future, I am not losing sleep tonight over whether we will make a bowl game. I hope we will but will let it all playout. However, I can definitely sense tonight how the team has taken a legit step forward, improving upon the season from last year. That much was clear otherwise the Trojies wouldn't have felt compelled to make that classless move at the end. They are clearly a little worried. The way those SCumbags behaved at the end of the game, you've got to believe karma will have a way of evening up the scores in the long run.
That said ... I will leave it to you to thread the night away. Post your quick fire takes in the comment threads. If you have extensive reflections to share, fire them up in the FanPosts. Thanks again for a great regular season. Let's do it again.
GO BRUINS.
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Pete Carrol
deserves to die in a fire.
GO BRUINS!!!
by bruinchick on Nov 28, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I hate him
more than I hate my ex-fiance who cheated on me with two guys. That’s a lot of hatred. He isn’t worth a curse word on my part, so I won’t dignify him with one, but I can’t wait to see his smarmy face next year when we murder $C.
"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden
If you're gonna come in here criticize CRN's TO, check yourself!
Timeouts are called all the time and you run the ball, not call a play action bomb!!!!
You said it all
Bruins battled bravely until the end, but those turnovers, stupid mistakes, and the refereeing kind of did us in. I didn’t catch the last minute of the game, so I missed the long bomb. Pretty sure I lucked out with that.
I am so pissed
How many fights do you think there were, and are, right now, outside the Colliseum?
I’d be in one if I were there.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
I hope this pulls us all together
and anyone who wants to defend that mother fer Pete Carroll can just stfu. Nobody here wants to hear it.
We need to rally around CRN and get the players in here who can beat those guys.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 10:57 PM PST reply actions
I'm glad that Peter called that play
He has now exposed himself to the world for the asshole that he is.
No way to explain that one other than he’s a cheap piece of shit.
Harbaugh was just validated by Cheatey Petey
’nuff said.
The Mad Bruin
by lostnacfgop on Nov 28, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure Harbaugh, and the other coaches from the Pac-10 thinks Petey's a dick
After all, he was the only one to vote against allowing family on the sidelines, to prevent CRN from having his boys assist him like he did with his dad. Yet, he allowed Snoop Dog on the sidelines with his players.
I'm Pissed
Fuckin’ FSN North for giving me the last 2 minutes of the game and Chetey Petey for his classless move after the TO.
I want revenge on these bastards. Plain, pure and as simple as that.
THANK GOD I’m a UCLA Bruin.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2009 10:57 PM PST reply actions
Whereever you think a line can be drawn
insults/threats to his family – too much
calling out Cheaty on his habitual goatfucking – on target
The lateral call
I can’t think of refs nullifying such an important play that could have changed the game because of their own incompetence. The Pac-10 commissioner really needs to review that call and the officiating crew.
by Westwood Wizard on Nov 28, 2009 10:58 PM PST reply actions
CRN should have challenged that call.
FSN, as bad as it is, replayed the audio and you clearly couldn’t hear a whistle. If there was one, it came much later than what they decided on.
there was not way to challenge it. that decision
came from the booth.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap! They said the whistle blew?!?!?!
I was there, close enough to hear the refs fart, and there was no whistle blown until the end of the run.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
Yes they did
The call made absolutely zero sense. It was meant to appease Petey without looking like it was outright cheating.
RIP #34
That final TD will
do more good for our program than if Pete had run the ball 4 times in a row. They will be playing that video in the weight room all summer. They will be talking about it before next years game. That TD will kindle a fire that won’t stop burning until we torch PC again.
That said… I’m soooo bummed about that loss. I really thought we had a great shot tonight. I wish the refs didn’t ruin the game too…
Words cannot express how much I agree with this statement.
Every fire needs a spark, and this just might be it. This will bring the best out of our whole team to become faster and stronger and play with a fire in their gut all day, every day. Thank you Cheatey, thank you for sparking the fire that will be UCLA Football that will destroy your “team” each and every year.
So our guys need Pete Carroll to fire them up for this rivalry?
Sorry, I find that pathetic. You handle that fucking play by not letting them score and hitting the quarterback, so Petey fucking Carroll has his own reasons to regret it. As long as we need the manner of the blowout to inspire us for next year, we’re the bitches.
Bitches no more!
We are bitches NO MORE!
Hey… Nestor… why not stick that F’up Cheaty Petey play somewhere in the corner of the football home page until NEXT SEASON… lest we forget! I don’t wanna lose this burn… until a VICTORY over $C next year!
Will recruits want to be on the SC sideline next year at the Rose Bowl?
Cause I think there is gonna be some serious payback coming.
Please Brian Price, come back next year to make things right at the Rose Bowl
Again any sefl proclaimed "Bruin" who defends Petey in this thread
Or anywhere on BN from hereon out will immediately be gone.
Gives us fire
Thanks Peat
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
Most of the nation hate suc, now they can see how classless cheat carroll is
Where does he live? His place needs to “rearranged”!
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 28, 2009 11:00 PM PST reply actions
Apologies for my F bombs
I’m normally more composed, but NO BRUIN FAN CAN JUSTIFY PETEY. FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK THAT AND FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK SUC!!!!
cheaty petey
That MAN ( and I use that term lightly) deserves to burn in hell. FUCK SC
fuck sc
Im glad he called that play….Bruins gonna fuck up suc at the RB next year
Hey, it's not about SUC
We know what they are. It’s about US! We need to take this and use it to burn a hole in our stomachs. We need to do more. We need to TAKE THIS PERSONAL!
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
the thing thats ridiculous
is that PC complained about Harbough going for 2 with 6 minutes left in the game and got all out of sorts in the post game handshake.
He is just like a spoiled 8 year old bully. I hope he rots in hell
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:04 PM PST reply actions
I don't want him to rot in hell...
…I want him around for next year’s game at the Rose Bowl. If I am ready to circle that date on my calender right now, just imagine how ready our squad will be next year…
Trojan zombies will defend the call to no end
Unbelievable how much of the kool-aid these sycophants drink.
If Tommy Trojan
tries to stick his sword in the Rose Bowl turf next year, someone needs to jam that thing up his ass…or Petey’s…
First Things First
I want us to get that bowl bid – then take care of business there….
Then, over the off-season, I hope our guys see that TO and play over and over and over again so they’re just seething with anger in the weight room.
This should be a theme for next year.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions
Our Performance
I believe we wudda won with KP in the game
Craft played well. He isn't the reason we lost. He brought us back and deserves credit.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 28, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
KP was not having a good night. It wouldn’t have mattered if he had stayed in the game. I am sure tha CRN made the right choice and Craft is a senior.
by LongtimeBru on Nov 28, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
KP looked like a deer in headlights all night.
His performance was slightly better, but still out of his depth.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
The last TD had no impact on the game --
I am much more upset by the phantom whistle which did change the game.
sjh
From the LA Times
Well, the USC-UCLA football rivalry just got a lot more interesting.
Who says you can’t teach an old coach new tricks.
Even poor sportsmanship tricks.
With USC up by two touchdowns and less than a minute to play, UCLA called timeout even though the Trojans had the ball and the Bruins had no chance for a comeback.
Probably Rick Neuheisel’s way of teaching his team to compete until the clock runs out.
USC Coach Pete Carroll and play-caller Jeremy Bates then responded by teaching their team that it’s OK to run up a score when you’re winning but not when you’re losing.
On the next play, quarterback Matt Barkley faked a handoff into the middle of the line and threw a 48-yard bomb to Damian Williams for a piling-it-on touchdown.
Jim Harbaugh would be so proud.
by BruinFan96 on Nov 28, 2009 11:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LA Times Poll
on whether the last TD was poor sportsmanship or not. Go vote.
by harry bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
The LA Times
Still hasn’t stopped their little grudge against Harbaugh. How pathetic. They act like Petey’s never run up the score before until now.
The LA Times is nothing but the Trojan's bitch
They blame CRN and show a picture of a bruin coach holding back reggie Carter. It’s so disgustingly onesided….the most onesided I’ve ever seen those tools.
Thankfully, I cancelled my subscription years ago.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 29, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
I just got home from watching this at a friends.
That has to be one of the most classless things that I have ever seen any coach do, in any sport. I am so pissed off that I can’t say anymore right now. Except; great job D you were awesome and what goes around, comes around.
Take it and use it
We all have to be better Bruins because of this. Use it.
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
All that comes to my mind.....
FUCK SC FUCK SC
PC's reaction tells the truth
jumping up and down like a little boy and making out with Bates, he doesn’t celebrate like that after any score, he enjoyed being the prick
Just Took A Tylenol PM
My only hope of getting any meaningful shut eye tonight.
I am soooo pissed right now.
God help me I HATE ’SC.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2009 11:09 PM PST reply actions
I know
we have one UCLA guy on there and he sits there and makes the SC case for them.
Must be mad at rick for not putting him on the coaching staff.
He and Norton can hang out together.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hoping Rick Neuheise makes Parole Carroll his bitch in the coming years!
But likely Pete will be gone, cause that bitch won’t stay after his program goes on probation.
Nestor,
I think its time to quit the support of Washington. He has spent 10 mintues agreeing with everyone on the Fox Sports show that this is CRNs fault, and blaming UCLA for going to the middle of the field and saying Pete Carroll was a-ok in what he did.
Not only is he incompent, he is a disloyal sell out.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions
He was completely baseless and uninformed in his defense as well
He doesn’t really know how to form a coherent argument…it’s a shame.
RIP #34
I think James Washington is just frustrated, you can tell he is angry
we shouldn’t discount his loyalty.
He expects more from the Bruins
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 28, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Agree +1
JW is a sellout and was licking the boots of Sucksters Soto and JJ.
He isn’t at Ken Norton Jr level of sellout yet, but I lost a LOT of respect for him for not having our guys’ backs.
by bruin4life1993 on Nov 28, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
PC could have
just passed for 1st down and not a touchdown bomb.
more fuel for the fire
comment from the espn thread:
“It’s not just the play call but all of USC’s sidelines — ball girl included – dancing some taunting monkey dance on the sidelines seemed like youtube footage of some backwood’s high school rivalry.”
As for the Times blurb quoted by BruinFan96, it’s been removed in favor of a poll with this nugget:
“What do you think of Pete Carroll’s decision to go for a long touchdown pass at the end of the game?
-No problem. Neuheisel asked for it when he called a timeout.
-Bad move. That was poor sportsmanship."
Quite a slant there. Someone’s editor stepped in, I guess. Ridiculous.
Very Valid Comparison with 1998
Cade ran a naked bootleg as time ran out at the end of 1998 Game at the RB. $uc fans were whining about it for years afterwards, as was Paul Hackett on the sideline.
While I didn’t think that it was as despicable as this move by Cheatey SCumbag, I still think somewhere that us rubbing it in at the end of an 8 game winning streak had something to do with the debacle in Miami and then the long streak of losses to $uc except for the 1996 miracle.
If that last TD means that we will now rise to PAC-10 Championships and BCS Bowls and a streak against the SCum, then I say we all send a big “Thank You (and FU)” Card to Cheatey Petey when he is sitting in forced retirement following NCAA sanctions.
I also agree that JW is an absolute idiot.
Nestor & Others, worth a Post?
by bruin4life1993 on Nov 28, 2009 11:13 PM PST reply actions
the coaching staff didn't call the bootleg
that’s the difference. a 20 year old did something stupid.
Pete Carroll is coach with 20 years experience in his late 50s. there is no excuse for what he did.
Especially after complaining about Stanford going for it 2 with 6 minutes left in the game.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I almost can't believe it
I actually had stopped watching to get my baking out of the oven (I guess I don’t have BruinGirl83’s mojo in that department) so I didn’t see or hear Petey run up the score.
What an a-hole. Seriously. That was completely uncalled for, especially after he had been bitching about what Harbaugh did.
I hope they get slaughtered in their bowl game.
Pete Carroll is a total douche bag
His rationale for throwing the pass is complete bullshit. He acts like UCLA provoked this. Of course UCLA called timeout, that’s what a team does when they’re trailing at the end of the game and they have timeouts remaining. However, when possessing the ball and holding a fourteen point advantage, the winning team should probably just run the ball or throw a short pass. Carroll is acting like he did the right thing and he didn’t.
I hope UCLA drills SC in the future.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
I agree
Short pass for 1st down. He is an Ahole.
by likasahente on Nov 28, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
I would have just called a dive up the middle.
Even if UCLA got the ball back, they wouldn’t have gotten it back with enough time to win.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
Did every SC player on the field buy into Pete's last play call?
All 11!?
Maybe I’m being naive, but I couldn’t imagine KP executing such a dick play, even if it was called down from NC himself.
Pretty sure he wouldn’t have such a shit eating grin afterward like Barkley.
That's why they don't play for U$C
They lack the evil gene.
by Westwood Wizard on Nov 28, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
SC has no discipline
Pete Carroll lets his thug players do whatever they want.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
make no doubt about it
CRN is not going to rest until he completely destroys and humiliates that piece of shit chetey
by greatness-bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:15 PM PST reply actions
This is a great positive.
His endless pursuit of revenge will mean even more intense recruiting efforts and even greater work done in the off-season to improve the team.
When you are on defense, trailing
and you have timeouts, you call them.
I am generally a mellow person
But I hope Pete Carroll chokes on his own vomit.
If I were a returning defensive player I would Tee off on Barkley next year.
That’s what PC’s BS playcalling and sideline show will get.
A Stanford player
said it great when they ran up the score on USC: SUC is disrespectful and they deserved what was coming to them
by likasahente on Nov 28, 2009 11:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Next season
I hope the first play of the game is a helmet to helmet smash of Matt Barkley. SPTR will most likely miss it because they’re morons.
What ever happened to just taken a knee
and going out with some class. Petey showed a new low tonight.
To be fair, asking a trOJan to show some class is a bit much
Hell, their players don’t even know where class is.
by bruinhoo on Nov 28, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This game
made me hate $c more than I already do – if that is possible. Again, sc’s classless behavior doesn’t surprise me. I was hoping that Rick would have punched PC right where it hurts. Also, the way PC’s players were sticking out their tongues at the end of the game and laughing made me sick. I hope Barkley gets his one day along with Pom Pom.
by Forever a Bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM PST reply actions
In the bowl games, I have always cheered for the Pac 10 schools. No more.
SUC just lost that right.
by LongtimeBru on Nov 28, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
I cheer for everyone BUT them. I couldn’t wipe the smile off my face after that Texas BCS game.
I had always been a fierce advocate of the Pac-9 in postseason play
So I can’t say that this game had much effect on my bowl watching habits
This is so much worse
I’m not gonna talk about the rediculously hypocritical and classless play… Harbaugh is still a scapegoat.
That being said, UCLA outplayed USC for 55 minutes, maybe even more. Chuck Bullough’s great defense held USC to 7 points In a fair game. I do not want to hear one complaint about the defense. They played SO great tonight, and manhandled the Trojans for a majority of the game.
Rick Neuheisel and the rest of the coahes called nothing short of a great game. A combination of bad timing and inexperience for big games ended up crippling the team. KP had an off night… His first in about 3.25 weeks… and I’ll leave it at that. He missed his men, and looked like a young Kevin Craft.
This was the most frustrating game since Oregon. The fact that UCLA would shoot themselves… Repetedly… Makes it just terrible to watch.
When USC gives you a game, YOU TAKE it. Unlike 2007-8, UCLA had more than an emotional edge.. They had talent, ability, momentum, plus emotion. It had the makings of a John Barnes style game with Craft in a zone… Somewhat, plus I talked to JJ Stokes this week so why the hell not.
Speaking of JJ, Rosario made me look like an idiot. Rosario had numerous chances at YAC and TD’s, but nerves got to him, or he heard what I said and got cocky.
But Bruin Fans, stay happy, stay hungry… We have OBVIOUSLY improved, and if it weren’t for some bad mistakes (Not miracles… Take note of that) we would be crying with joy right now.
GO BRUINS, what a great season
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"Nothing short of a great game?"
So you like not putting in Franklin—or any other running back—until halfway through the 3rd quarter?
by Westwood Wizard on Nov 28, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
RB's
We weren’t running the ball well anyways. If Franklin can’t carry the ball, he shouldn’t play. Moline isn’t a liability, and the running game shouldn’t be a gamble… Especially against USC
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 28, 2009 11:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Franklin is a fumbleaholic
But why Moline takes the Wildcat snaps instead of someone like Knox (who has speed and doesn’t fumble) is beyond me.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
Going Moline the way we did
made zero sense to me. He just isn’t fast enough and they know he can’t go off tackle, making the field that much smaller. When you were playing ASU and the goal was to not turn it over, fine, but we knew that wouldn’t be enough tonight. Now, leaving Franklin on the bench is okay too because he can’t hold onto the ball, but Coleman is the guy who should have been getting the carries.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
Frankllin...
…can’t hold on to the ball, PERIOD. Got very lucky to get that fumble back. Rosario was STONEHANDS…AGAIN.
UCLA - Champions Made Here
Rosario
Hasn’t he been money? For like 4 weeks??
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 8:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nice
But we’ve been over the fact that you can’t blame the defense for not being there. They held USC to a shutout before that last drive, something that no other team has accomplished this season, and allowing 7 points is something that the offense should rebuttle, plain and simple. It’s just stupid and ignorant to blame the defense
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 8:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can we start a countdown clock to the
next $C game, Nestor?
by PopnFried on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Poinsetta is out, unless somebody in conference gets a BCS at-large bid
Arizona’s win today ensured that.
Depends on other teams...
to many teams get to 7 – 5 and we’ll be left out as the bowls have to pick them first
by Insomnia333 on Nov 28, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
i hear humanitarian bowl is a possiblity
but don’t have any backup.
And no, it isn’t named to honor Pete Carroll
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Someone analyzed the bowl possibilities
If $C won, and it involved everyone and their moms losing…. I didnt look it up again and go off to check off the criteria one by one, but I’m guessing it won’t look too good =/
here it is
If UCLA doesn’t beat USC (and USC doesn’t somehow sneak into a BCS spot), UCLA needs to have four of these things happen to make a bowl game:
1. Bowling Green lose to Toledo (unlikely)
2. Wyoming lose to Colorado State (unlikely)
3. LA-Monroe lose to Middle Tennessee State (likely)
4. LA-Lafayette lose to Troy (likely)
5. UConn lose to both Syracuse and South Florida (unlikely)
6. Kansas lose to Missouri (likely)
7. Marshall lose to UTEP AND SMU lose to Tulane (unlikely)
Here's a link posted on the ESPN blog...
Apparently landing UCLA would be a “coup.”
by onedeterminedpanda on Nov 28, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
i am still in shock about what happened
i really can’t believe what i saw. The only thing that play did was get every bruin fired up for any meeting with suc. i really hope that the rose bowl is a sea of blue next year. I want to, maybe, see a sliver of ketchup and mustard. The first play of the game should be a penalty on us for knocking out barkley from the game.
Better call out Cheaty Petey tonight
CRN had better call out Pete the Bastard in the post game press conference. If $C doesn’t have a squad of all First Team All Americans next year they better beware showing up at the Rose Bowl!!!
Lindsey Soto - Why bring your team out to midfield? Calling out CRN....
I’m really not liking FSN sportscasters…..
I think you are giving her too much credit
calling her a “sportscaster”.
Is she really that stupid?
Why did Neu bring the players to midfield.
So they get an SC grad to call the game
and an SC grad to deliver the postgame show. That’s fair.
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
Are there any media people
who will criticize SC?
MATRIX: Bennett, I thought you were--
BENNETT: Dead? You thought wrong. Ever since you had me thrown out of the unit, I've been waiting to pay you back. Do you know what today is, Matrix? Payday.
SI.com's Seth Davis
Just called it:
It’s official: Pete Carroll is a no-class lowlife. Does he have any notion he is supposed to be an educator?
by Nestor on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
Someone who has the guts
to call it like it is.
by LongtimeBru on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
RTing
Dis
The worst thing about being a classics major at UCLA is having to hear about the #@*#$@*&% Trojans every damn day.
Everyone RT'ing this
Word is out, you can’t hide anymore Cheatey.
a bear's perspective
Couldn’t believe it when I saw it, what an asshole play. My wife is an SC alum who is very disappointed right now, mostly because she thought he was above something like that.
I was hoping your guys would run a swing pass to the left at midfield and plow right into the SC bench. Keep your heads up, this smacks of karma.
Pete just joined the ranks of Harbaugh and Stoops.
by 1988goldenbear on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM PST reply actions
what the fuck
IM SO FUUCKIN PISSED AT SUC RIGHT NOW…BURN IN HELL PETE
I agree with the venom against Chetey Petey, but we should also focus on our play and
program. If Kevin Prince is going to be the QB of the future, he needs to improve a lot this off season and stay healthy.
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 28, 2009 11:25 PM PST reply actions
Learn not to throw int's
Both picks were horrible throws
by harry bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Upon reflection
… much worse than actually calling the pass was the reaction…the jumping up an down and pointing and running around encouraging the celebration. I wonder if there shouldn’t be some kind of effort to contribute money to Bruin football in Pete’s name. I am in the mood to do something irrational…
Totally agree.
That’s what really got me worked up.
by LongtimeBru on Nov 28, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Petey celebrated like he won the national championship after the td
That was what pissed me off most.
RIP #34
Totally Agree
I was much more upset with PC’s reaction than the play….Let’s use it in every encounter our teams have with the Toejams….
I just withdrew my application to USC medical school with this listed as the reason
(was going to do it anyways, since I just got into a top 10)
by dokein on Nov 28, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
Nice!
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 28, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
I hope
That recruits see that Bull and realize that SUC is not a classy and not productive in making REAL football players. They make a-wholes/thugs/and cheaters.
It's always been that way
Cheap shots have been the way of life at SC. Now we know that their coaches whole-heartedly endorse it…
i cannot wait until next year
when our D knocks that stupid little grin off of the penultimate douchebag matt barkley’s face
by greatness-bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:29 PM PST reply actions
Everyone, be at the game.
Sea of True Blue… Put the Fear of God in them
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
I have no issue with playing a full 60 minutes
If there’s time on the clock, you can throw the ball, go for two, do whatever you want. The problem is complaining about it two weeks earlier, then doing it.
Afterward, the SC sideline was jumping up and down and celebrating. All this while pointing at the sideline. Unnecessary and classless, but I was saddened to see us react and go after them. It was classless on our part at the end and you can bet CRN will get in their ears about it,
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2009 11:30 PM PST reply actions
I think it was the unreal celebration
and Petey’s jumping around that detonated the emotions. That was unreal.
I'm curious about how Petey's classless act will actually cost him recruits
and respect across the country
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Nov 28, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
USC was classless in taunting
but I’d like to think that we would be better and not go after them, knocking over a ref and not listening to our coached. In no way does it excuse what SC did, but that’s expected from SC. I expect us to remain poised and classy. We lost our heads and acted in a way that was embarrassing for me and the UCLA fans I was with. You can say that it called attention to what they were doing, but it wasn’t the right thing for us to be doing and I expect us to do the right thing. A black mark on the program? No, but I do expect better.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
No
Those guys taunted us and they advanced towards the midfield first. So we had no choice but to respond. Even the AP writeup confirmed that:
“The Trojans (8-3, 5-3 Pac-10) followed Williams’ dramatic score by jumping and yelling on their sideline before moving onto the field in unison. They appeared to be taunting the Bruins (6-6, 3-6), who then came across midfield to challenge them before coaches and officials kept them apart.”
So please don’t turn this into he said/he said.
by Nestor on Nov 28, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They taunted us and inititated it
but they never went more than ten yards from their sideline. I was sitting right there in the stadium and looking at it the entire time. A classless move on their part and had we stayed near our sideline then fine, but you’re not going to be able to convince me that we didn’t do the wrong thing by going to the other side of the field.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
we did exactly the right thing
if they are going to run up the score and throw a bomb up by 14 with 48 second left then taunt us and make of us, we did exactly the right thing by going out and not taking it.
The refs screwed us all night, and didn’t flag them for taunting, and we had to do something about it. Im proud our players cared enough to do that. That’s what winning football players do.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
indeed we did the right thing
if the situation were reversed, there is NO WAY Coach Neuheisel calls for a bomb like that with a 14-point lead. Carroll has done this sort of thing time and time again and it is simply classless. We’re on their turf, walking to the middle of the field sends a message, walking off while still being taunted by their idiot masses is just a bit too tame… this one WILL come back to haunt them.
W.S. Montano Class of 1994
by wsmontano1994 on Nov 29, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
I've been reading this thread...
waiting for comment on the Bruin team on the field’s collective reaction. Yep, what Carroll did sucked. But when I was watching—in horror—at our team’s advance to the middle of the field and beyond, I was thinking Oregon-Boise 2…I saw One of the officials—I don’t know how else to say it—thrown to the ground by a UCLA player. I wasn’t pleased at all…and I walked out at that point. I feared there might be some disciplinary repercussion for some Blount-like incident. I felt, in spite of Carroll’s lack of class, we had a black eye too. Up to that point, at least, I was so proud of the UCLA blue section that was so loud and into it the whole game. It reminded of the Achica game in the early 80s. We had such fabulous cheerleaders/yell leaders then. I think this years crew is also an improvement
from last year. Again, my hats off to everyone in the BLUE section…great job.
And to the BAND. Hell, you looked absolutely fabulous and you sounded great especially when you performed on the field. WE WON THAT BATTLE EASILY.
Tom Skalman '84
Las Vegas
by tskal on Nov 29, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
I'm glad we crossed the field
It’s not going to be a black mark on our program and I’m pretty sure everyone in america who saw that knows it was pure emotion. Having the spine to walk up and defend your school speaks volumes about the pride that our team has. Which I think unites the team and above all, should teach the students on campus how to be a Bruin. As a Bruin, I am NEVER EVER going to back down from a trojan!
I disagree my friend
I’m not sure the proper attention would be paid to their classless taunting. We at least assured that the world saw what a bunch of thugs we know them to be.
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 28, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I almost think Petey planned it. He had the guy take a knee and then right after the knee he threw that bomb (expecting Bruins would look for a run up the middle). As the celebration that really set people off and I just cannot agree with people calling our guys classless.
I'm not sure how many people would take that type of action and just sit on the sideline
Gandhi and MLK Jr. don’t play football for a reason.
They're not robots
Football is a highly emotional game. When you see the opposing COACHES and players start jumping up and down and taunting you, even Dexter would have a reaction. come to think of it, Dexter may have the perfect solution for them.
We did the right thing.
When I left the bars tonight, I left looking for a fight. The guys did the right thing by going after those scumbags.
Ironically, I’m glad they did that. They just burned that memory of all our freshmen and sophomores who will do everything they can to return the favor in the coming years.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
LA Times Poll
SC fans have found it and are taking the lead. If you haven’t voted…
I'm getting more pissed
reading the Tweets with “USC” in it and people defending Carroll. It’s just irritating. Two weeks ago they were probably bitching out Harbaugh.
Get a clue, your coach is the original in being a dick to the rest of the Pac-10. You may think it’s cool to win but not without class, which your coach doesn’t have.
you're expecting too much
out of suc fans
by greatness-bruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
No doubt Harbaugh was a douche
2 pt conversion… and then when he lost to Cal he couldn’t even shake Tedford’s hand.
Petey (besides this incident) has been good for the most part. Better than how Harbaugh acted, but with this….. really throws him down a notch in the eyes of the nation.
way off
i remember a game where he was up by 30 vs a Pac 10 team in the 4th quarter and fake punted the ball. Watch more football dude.
UCLA '08
by BruinTrouble on Nov 28, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Shaking my head
“Petey (besides this incident) has been good for the most part. "
[/spit take]
by Westwood Wizard on Nov 28, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like I'm in a freakin 80's sports movie!
Is there a more stereotypically evil-to-the-core, zero gray area, Cobra Kai-esque team anywhere else in sports? All the way down to West Beverly’s very own Stereotypical Steve Sanders at QB? They make it sooooo easy to despise them! I’m seriously at a loss… and that people are actually fans of this team! I really….really don’t get it.
I wouldnt put it past PC to tell Taylor Mays to sweep the leg!
Just got back.
Yes, we didn’t follow the cues of Oregon and Stanford. Yes, the turnovers killed us and that complete BS call destroyed any momentum we would have had going into halftime.
But our basic, vanilla, boring offense really established that we didn’t mean business tonight. What I mean by that is that we used Moline as a RB, not as the great 3rd and 1 FB he is. Don’t get me wrong. I love the guy – he was a great choice to score our one td. But Oregon and Stanford, the two teams that would beat SUC 9/10 times this season, beat the toejams by putting their defense on their heels. They are NOT a great offensive team. That was obvious tonight (despite the stupid final score). Us playing not to lose, playing the entire game just to run the clock down, essentially was exactly what Cheatey Peetey wants.
It bothers me so much that we didn’t find any of our quick RBs to at least attempt to put their players on their heels. If it weren’t for two laughably bad calls, we saw what would have happened. Right before half, we were passing vertically and marching very quickly, very successfully. No doubt that would have been at least 3 before half. On JetSki’s big run (though, he did fumble at the end- which explains why the coaches don’t trust him) their defense looked worried until the refs bailed them out on a call I will never understand.
Bottom line is we played their game-style. We gave them WAAAY too much respect by not going at their throats like Oregon and Stanford did. That’s the part that bothers me the most. this SUC team is not of the caliber of previous SUC teams. They are mediocre, and we failed to take advantage of any of their weaknesses.
I applaud the defense. They did everything they possibly could and more. It’s unfair of us to expect a pick-6, even if we really needed one. The final few minutes, while could have been better, were not really their fault. Our offense never matched their desire to win.
Good night people. This has been a rough one.
I'm so ready to fuckin throw down
Fuck the trojans. me and the homies stuck around till the end in the OC (trojan territory) at the OC watch party waiting for a trojie to start shit. and guess what they walked off quiet until they got to the parking lot in their cars to then start talking shit. fuck them bitches. me and the homies cursed the fuck out of carroll in front of all those trojans. they had no gall to talk shit back. burn those mutherfuckers!!!
by tommybruin on Nov 28, 2009 11:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
You should've gone to westwood
Where more Trojie sweatshirts could be seen than Bruin ones after the game. I screamed at anyone within earshot, but I needed more.
Are you serious?
they came into our fucking hood? damn, there would have been blood on the moon if I was there.
defensive failure
when SC had 3 and 3 with game at 14 – 7 was the back breaker. In spite of our horrible offensive play, at that point we had matched the trojies yard for yard, and were only down 7 in spite of the turnovers. What followed after that failure didn’t change the outcome of the game (just makes us mad for next year).
Is Vegas or Emerald the 4th pick this year?
I thought Emerald picked Cal last year over Vegas…. something about they swapped picks last year so Cal could play near home.
The bowl agreements allow the Vegas and Emerald bowls to reach a mutual agreement as to team picks
Not sure if this clause was used last year, or of the bowls did actually swap picks.
welll
The [Las Vegas] bowl announced in 2005 that it had extended its contract with the Pac-10 Conference for an additional four years through the 2009 season, getting the fourth selection in 2006 and 2008 while getting the fifth selection in 2007 and 2009. In addition, the game extended its contract with the MWC for the first selection/champion through the 2009 season.
So based on this they get to pick 5th this year. But Cal was 4th last year, and Vegas would’ve picked them, but I remember reading the Chronicle or whatever talking about how Vegas and Emerald reached an agreement to swap positions last year so Emerald could pick Cal for a home game. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Vegas ended up bypassing Cal for Arizona.
Yeah they might have
I don’t entirely remember. I haven’t seen any formal agreement, but it’s entirely feasible that this is the case.
RIP #34
The extra 7 points is not what bugs me. It was the taunting.
That was poor sportsmanship. It’s one thing for the players to do it, it’s another thing for the coach to condone it.
There was no class in any sense of it. I would have accepted things if they had just done it, shut up, and let the rest of the game play it out, but jumping on the side lines, pointing to the other side and laughing is clearly poor sportsmanship, and if the Refs were any bit competent tonight, they would have called SC out on that.
Not just that, but looking at the penalty along, it sets off a bad lesson for other players. It essentially says, you can win the game by playing dirty, and complaining to the refs.
same here
it’s the reaction and gloating afterward that gets me most of all. At least when Belichick does it he stays the same cold-blooded bastard he always is. He’s not openly laughing at you or mocking you like a bullying little kid. He’s just showing you how easy it is for him to cut your throat, and damned if I don’t believe him.
In other news Plaschke and Simers have written and pubbed their reactions already to blast Rick Neuheisel. Really on the ball, those two. I have an inch of Knob Creek left. It’ll be gone within the hour.
Belichick also isn't complaining about others running up the score
A mere two weeks before he does it himself, and in a far more blatant fashion. As Seth Davis has astutely pointed out: Pete Carroll is a no-class lowlife
Yup
It’s the two weeks before complaining that bugs me. If you’re consistent with it and rub it in, while also taking it when it’s rubbed into you, then fine. I have zero issue with throwing it until the final whistle, as long as you don’t complain when others are putting as many points on the board until the final whistle. Do what CRN did. Say they played until the final whistle and it’s our job to stop them. Then expect the other team to try and stop you to the final whistle too.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
Plashke calling out CRN for the timeout:
The best duel didn’t even occur between the quarterbacks, but the head coaches, when a final-minute taunt by UCLA Coach Rick Neuheisel was turned into a touchdown by USC Coach Pete Carroll.
With USC holding the ball at the UCLA 48-yard line and running out the clock on a 21-7 lead, Carroll classily ordered Barkley to take a knee.
Despite the fact that it was second down, Neuheisel then inexplicably called a timeout.
Carroll responded by ordering Barkley to throw deep on the next play to Damian Williams, which he did, and Williams caught it inside the 10-yard line and streaked into the end zone for a touchdown.
After which the jubilant Trojans danced out on to the field, causing the UCLA players to run on to the field, leading to one referee being steamrollered by a Bruin while the players were barely kept apart.
What was Neuheisel thinking? Why would he spit on Carroll’s goodwill like that? In the history of this series, few coaching moves have ever been so dumb.
link here
Classily orderd Barkley to take a knee?
So apparently it’s still classy to go for a long TD pass with your first stringers still in the game when the game is essentially over. And how is CRN calling a TO a taunt towards usc?
At least Plaschke is more comfortable now
It was strange for him to be on the UCLA bandwagon after last weekend. This is just more natural for him—to have his nose firmly up Carroll’s backside.
by Westwood Wizard on Nov 28, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually let's not link through to his garbage
All it does is reward him for his stupidity, and in this case, his hypocrisy. I guess Harbaugh is the good guy again, eh Billy?
this is fucking retarded
im literally going to spit in his face if i ever come across him, what a bumbling fool
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Cancelled sub
I’ve been a subscriber for over 10 years, and I finally picked up the phone this morning and finally cancelled my subscription. When asked the reason, I just calmly said, “Because Bill Plaschke’s an idiot”, and asked what they could do to retain me, I answered, “If you fire Bill Plaschke”.
I'm
about to cancel my subscription too. I’ve stuck with the LAT for too long. I’m walking to the phone….
Ya
A timeout while you’re down 14 with a minute left is a taunt
There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.
by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 8:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The ONLY sensible move on Peteys part was to continue to take a knee!
That’s why Petey is boorish.
Our timeouts didn’t mean JACK!
(Except as a lesson for our own players.)
I disagree
the “sensible” move is to go for a first down to end the game on offense. It’s not to take a knee since CRN was calling timeouts, and it’s not to throw a bomb to rub it in our faces.
by bornagainbruin on Nov 29, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
From a BAMA fan, I read this guy Plashke's article and here is the message I sent
This is not from a UCLA fan. I could not care less about UCLA. I am a BAMA fan and I echo thoughts of anyone outside the USC fanbase. If Carroll kept taking knees, UCLA would have gotten the ball back with probably 30 seconds left, nearly impossible that they would have been able tie the game up, nearly. If Carroll wanted to do it different, since they were gonna take timeouts, run some draws and maybe try for a first down. That would have made it a moot point. Instead, he goes for the classless way to end the game and then celebrates like he just won the BCS title. You sir have you head so far up Pete’s ass, you cannot be considered a reasonable sports journalist. Please turn in your press credentials at the nearest Goodwill location. I am sure many homeless would do a better job.
Not that my email will get read or do any good but I just wanted you to know, there are those outside the UCLA family that are taking your side in this.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
by bamachine on Nov 29, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
A bit off the subject...
…but I hope to be coming back here, this time next week, asking for advice on the Pasadena area. I am planning to be making a trip to your stadium around Jan 7. That is if we can stop the consecrated one. ;)
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Plaschke is an idiot
I don’t think any more responses are necessary.
Pete Carroll
Of course it was a classless act.
It would have been a hilarious stupid classless act if the pass had been defended.
As far as a classy program, I will always prefer to be a Bruin, but we didn’t have to go out on the field and act like idiots and match them.
As far as the game, until Prince learns to look off the defense, but instead watches one receiver and passes it to him, crucial interceptions will continue.
The defense was valiant, the offensive line has improved, and the team made me proud even in a loss.
Ultimately, we have to win the game, and the rest is B.S.
The way to shut up Petey is to beat him consistently. Think of how great Harbaugh feels.
Every day I think to myself, its great to be a Bruin and today is no exception.
Yup
I’ve always said, play the full 60 and keep going 100%, just don’t complain when the other team does it to you. CRN said afterward that he had no problem with the pass because he was playing to win the game still and it wasn’t zeros. We’re still making strides though and I have no doubt that before long we’ll be going after them in the fourth, playing to the final whistle. The difference is we don’t complain when it happens to us.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Going for the homerun bomb and the first down to secure the win are two very very different things
And both involve playing to the final whistle. This was a classless move, but I expected nothing more.
RIP #34
Classlessness
The worst was the post-play celebration on the sidelines. Pointing at the other sideline. Woofing.
Plashke is an idiot
Neuheisel’s move was never give up.
Carroll’s move was poor it on and laugh, after his team played poorly and gave us every chance to stay in the game.
Unfortunately, many recruits will like Carroll’s brash classless move.
Hopefully, classy ones with talent will choose us and look for a chance to shut him up.
Go Bruins.
Hopefully this is the case as well.
I hope this continues to grow into a national story that highlights the hypocrisy of Cheatey and running up the score. Maybe recruits won’t want to play for a two-faced criminal and the fall of troy will be here sooner rather than later.
Lets Face It Fellow Bruins
Our team played a hell of good game. The spread in the score is directly attributable to our youth and inexperience. 3 screw ups, 4 TO’s and not covering on that last SUC long pass to the end zone. We went in to the surrender mode on that play and they caught us with our pants down. When I played at UCLA we were taught and coached to play for 60 minutes. Lets hope we can learn from our mistakes and use Cheties classless tactics to put us in the state of mind to kick their butts next year. They are a completely classless bunch of jerks and their laughing, taunting, and jumping up and down just give us all the motivation we will need to put it to them over the next several years. It should also help in recruiting. I can’t imagine anyone but classless jerks to want to go to SUC and play under Pete Carroll.
'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf
SUC Times were SO butthurt over Harbaugh going for two
Which of them will have the integrity to be consistent and call this one out? So far Plaschke is a hypocrite. Anyone else?
REPLAY
THERES A REPLAY ON JUSTIN.TV IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED…
i dont have a problem w/the bomb
i never have a problem w/ teams throwing when they’re up big. its our jobe to stop them, especially when we call a TO to keep the game going, which i also dont have a problem with. my problem is w/ the trojan players full-on taunting our sidelines. im a level-headed guy and usually dont like it when players get too heated and get in fights, but i was at the game and was yelling for our sidelines to come out and respond and was glad they did. cant wait to get em next year. GO BRUINS!!
GO BRUINS!!!
i agree to an extent
i dont agree with the pass just because it just shows how much of a classless person carrol is. am i surprised by the move? not at all. but i did appreciate our seniors going to mid field and looking to bash some heads. its good to see that our fight even with the loss is still there
I smiled a little when I saw that bomb.
I knew the game was over for us when Barkley put his knee down. Throwing the bomb did a few things: 1) It exposed Pete Carroll as a hypocrite and a jerk (has he already forgotten about the last game he was in, when he was blown out) and 2) demonstrated that the entire team is a bunch of dicks.
I’m forever left with the visual imprint of Matt Barkley’s taunting and pointing. Along with the rest of the Trojan sideline. We have a young team. They will remember. We won’t forget.
Go Bruins!
First Half Play Calling
Am I the only one who thought all of the new plays and “trickery” CNC called to start off the game might have made it hard for Prince and the offense to get its rhythm? Our offense has been looking better but we never really seemed to have a chance to get started this time out.
As far as the taunting goes—I seem to remember the losers doing something similar last year, dancing on the field. There’s no way a team does something like that unless the coach supports or at least condones that kind of behavior.
Why are you all so surprised at The Great Cheater’s actions this time around? He’s always been a prick and a whiner—not too mention completely classless. I’m just happy I’m not an SC alum—how embarrassing.
Bruins Forever
How Embarrassing Indeed
I would HATE to be an SC alum right now. Plenty of them are fired up and defending Pete… I get that. After a few days pass they’re going to start looking at everything objectively and realize how classless the decision was.
gotta agree with linkbruin
you actually think they are gonna give two shits that it was a classless move, in my book anyone who supports him has no brain. tney are all raiders fans that just stayed at the coliseum when they left for oakland and U$C was still there
When you look at the game
We played them to a draw. The difference is we gave the ball away and they didn’t. We’re right there, but now we have to figure out how to take the final step and a major part of that is holding onto the ball. We were one step short today. Does it make this loss okay or sting any less? Hell no, but I dare anyone to say looking at this team from last year to this year or game one to game twelve that this isn’t a much improved program that’s getting close.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:02 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
In a lot of ways it's more frustrating
When you know the game is there for the taking. The fact that we’re getting closer is cold comfort right now, but it does make “wait till next year” feel a lot better.
Oh yeah
The fact that it was our mistakes that made the difference makes this one veryyyy tough to swallow. It shows both how close we are to “getting it,” yet the things we really need to tighten up if we want to get there. It hurts like hell now and will ‘til the day I die, but in terms of what it means for the future (not just this game, but the culmination of a successful season in general), this was a good indicator of how far we’ve come. Unfortunately, it was also an indicator of what we still have left to do. Better, just not quite good enough yet. AHHHHHHH. So frustrating.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
One thing that we haven't really noted was
These guys fought to the end in the Mausoleum, which has been a place where previous recent teams have rolled over in the face of adversity. This team doesn’t know how to quit, and it’s really one of their more endearing qualities. I hope we’re able to see them play one more time.
Just another discernible sign of progress
There’s a lot of things to be happy about the season and the progress has been phenomenal. The problem is that for this one game a year, progress doesn’t cut it. It’s win or lose and we lost. Now we have to wait 12 months to turn it around.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
agree agree agree
the almost brawl at the end of the game just goes to show that they back nueheisel and what he’s trying to do. they showed alot of heart and that they were not just going to lay down for our rival
My hatred for the trojans grow
well seeing as i was at the game and just listening to those classless, spoiled little brats that go to the University of Second Class just fueled my hatred even more. Petey, great call. i wish i could be as much of an asshole as you are. to bitch and moan about what another teams coach decided to do against you THREE WEEKS AGO, and pull it on the rival, that just goes to show he has no morals and niehter do any of his players. when our players came onto the field looking to knock some heads, petey just egged his players on to keep running their mouths. although i believe that the emotion and game should be won with the pads and helmet, im proud that our guys went out looking for blood with about a minute left. with how awfully that game was played, that was the highlight for me because they showed that they had heart and werent going to just lay down for those no good, classless, $Cum. and honestly how many people at the colesium dressed in the red and gold actually graduated from the oasis in the ghetto
our defense kept giving us chances
but we couldnt capitalize on them getting us the ball. we had 4 turnovers thye had 1. they beat us by 12 yrds of total offense and we had more rushing yards which is a good look to the future especially with their 3 headed monster in the back field. and then there was rasario. he had probably one of the worst games ive ever seen an individual have. 6 dropped passes and a crucial fumble as we were driving
Pretty sure that all 60 minutes of this game counted
They even ran the game clock for 4 full 15-minute periods just to make the point.
Look guy
none of that matters. What mattered was the final drive. They shit the bed. Did they lose the game? No. Did they step up when it mattered? ABSOLUTELY NOT. After all that hard work they laid down. That is the problem.
The approach on that last drive sucked - thanks Bullough
The issue is that the D bailed us out more times in this game than I care to recall here. If the other units on this team had done their jobs in response, we are not having this discussion (or had the defense spread the 2 late TD’s around earlier in the game), while you can realistically only ask so much of a unit when its counterparts are not giving any support.
touche.
I am being a bit pissy. They dominated early in the game, i just htought they could have showed a better effort for the game changer. All around, best effort by them this year.
Can't blame ya for the mood
Not a perfect game, but overall, it was the sort of effort we were wishing for most of the year.
Rivalry
Wrong or not, all opinions aside, the anger and hatred are exactly what rivalries should be like. UCLA especially needed this. Now they better use what happened and turn this thing around.
by NoOceanJustLakers on Nov 29, 2009 12:12 AM PST reply actions
Our local media also needs this
A chance to prove they’re not in the hip pocket of Inheritance Hall and call out Cheatey’s classless behavior after bloviating about Harbaugh’s 2 point conversion attempt. They merely need to pass the test. So far: Splashme has failed big time. Who’s next up to bat?
I am proud of our team and proud of CRN
All other things being about equal a couple bad throws were the difference in this game. I’ve seen every game we have played for a long, long time and I can’t be happier with the direction this team is headed in. Tonight’s loss hurt, but it stings a lot less when you know we’re getting better.
Ever since CRN came back to UCLA he has inspired me by how he runs our program. I was in Pauley when he gave his speech to the basketball crowd, I’ve heard him address the Bruins in the Rose Bowl after both wins and losses, and he has inspired me in the way that everything at UCLA has inspired me: UCLA continues to make me a better person. I thank God that that P.O.S. “coach” across town does not represent me.
I didn't care about Oregeon vs. Oregon State
But I’m a Beavers fan now.
quiz rodgers took down SC big time last season so yeah...
by deejayelleseven on Nov 29, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
That, and Oregon can fall no further than the Holiday Bowl w/a loss
Basically, it reduces the $ucsters chances of weaseling their way into a higher bowl slot.
I've never liked Oregon
Ever. They sit in Nike’s pocket, and I have a lot of problems with that. Their fans are despicable, and they give ducks a bad name. Nothing to like about them.
RIP #34
id probably go to the rose bowl if OSU got in
I’ve always liked them.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
Oh I still like them
That fact just prevents me from rooting for them even more than I already do.
RIP #34
At least Andy Staples at SI is calling Cheatey Peetey out
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/11/28/week-13/index.html
Let he not without sin …
USC coach Pete Carroll doesn’t get to ask “What’s your deal?” ever again.
Carroll played the victim two weeks ago after Stanford punched in a late touchdown to break half-a-hundred. He famously asked Cardinal coach Jim Harbaugh about his deal during the postgame handshake.
Up 14 late Saturday, Carroll allowed quarterback Matt Barkley to throw a 48-yard touchdown pass to Damian Williams with 44 seconds remaining. Sure, UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel had just called a timeout, but USC could have handed off until the clock expired.
Had Carroll not whined to Harbaugh, the late toss wouldn’t be such a big deal. USC and UCLA are hated rivals, and if UCLA didn’t want to get embarrassed, it should have kept USC from scoring. But Carroll seemed so offended when Harbaugh ran up the score. Now, that complaint rings hollow.
So run it up all you want, coach. Just don’t get upset the next time someone hangs 50 on you.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/11/28/week-13/index.html#ixzz0YEdrKsGx
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by longbordr52 on Nov 29, 2009 12:28 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
Bear Security Task Force and apathetic students
better take a note out of our football teams reaction walking out to midfield to defend our pride. It’s one thing to lose and take a beating for it, but it’s another thing to get punked by some asshole bitches. I’m proud to be a Bruin, and I’m proud of our team.
can't sleep
Everyone here has already said what I’m thinking. I have watched about 2000 football games in my life, and I’ve never seen a less sportsmanlike act than calling a play action bomb when up 14 with 52 seconds left and when 2 more kneel downs would have ended the game. I’m disappointed that I have to spew so much anger toward the classless dickhead on the other sideline who called the play rather than focus on what happened in the first 59:08 that decided the outcome.
Sports has always been a central part of my life, both as a player and a spectator. There is something magical about two teams lining up across from each other and seeing who is the better team.Afterward, the better team is congratulated and the losing team vows to be better the next time. Each side values the result and uses it to get better.
Pete Carroll did no less than raise his middle finger at the whole idea of sportsmanship in collegiate athletics. If some usc students vandalized the Bruin Bear this week, Pete Carroll took a dump on it or raped it, whichever analogy you prefer. He provided more evidence that he is a piece of trash. He poisons the college game. If not for OJ, I’d say he’s the scumbag of that glorified diploma mill they call a university.
He and his little group of thugs masquerading as student-athletes will get their comeuppance. Disrespect the game and the game will come back to bury you.
As I said, I can’t believe I’ve had to waste my time typing this. It was a game ucla could have won. I’d like to talk about the punt on 4th and just over a yard from the usc 41 that landed in the endzone but should never have been kicked because we had no business punting there. Or the bizarre wildcat with Moline and Craft. Or how we didn’t call an aggressive enough game on offense to allow our D to win the game with a great effort. I am disappointed because I thought we could win and because we didn’t need much from our offense to win, but we got next to nothing.
Instead of speaking of those thing, I have to waste 15 more minutes of wasted energy on a class A ass hole who doesn’t deserve my attention.
Usc brats will say that ucla would have done the same thing. We’re just bitter becuase we lost. I disagree. If my team had done that, I would have serious reservations about my affiliation with the team. Fortunately for me, I have never been put in a position of having to decide to root for them after spitting on the whole idea behind competitive sports. And two days after Thanksgiving, I am thankful for that. And that I don’t have to try to excuse Pete Carroll by crafting some mindbending logic to justify the shit he just pulled.
As a final note, I do encourage this low blow to be a sort of call to arms for Bruins everywhere. We can be more aggressive and proactive to help the NCAA finish their sanctions against SC. We can and will beat them, and I can’t wait to see those smirks wiped off their faces.
by BruinsRule on Nov 29, 2009 12:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions
WHEN IS CRN GOING TO PLAY TO WIN?
After suffering through what may have attended [ive and surrounded by SUCERS the whole game] the worst played UCLA=SUC game I have ever seen in my 53 years of being a fan (since I was 8) i have a few comments.
1. When is CRN going to play to win? After suffering from years of CKD I thought it could not be worse. But CRN continues to fill the same mold. Key example: we have momentum and the ball on the SUC 40. We are seven points behind on a horrible interception returned for a TD and our D is playing its guts out, lights out. SUC is getting nowhere. We just need to score to get back in the game and put the pressure on them. It’s 4th and 1. Would CKD go for it? Of course not, but neither does CRN. WTF? Are we playing to win? I guess not. So he punts it into the end zone for a net 20 yards. Congratulations. You’ve just told you’re team you have no confidence in them on either side of the ball. And you’re playing not to lose, AGAIN.
2. This SUC team was horrible and they played horrible. Yet CRN’s offensive and defensive play calling showed he thought they were laying the New England Patriots. No wonder Prince throws so many interceptions. Someone has told him to be afraid to throw downfield more than 16 yards under penalty of death. Someone keeps having hims throw that same BS slant that got picked off by the Ducks, if I remember correctly, twice. Similarly, when we’re finally in the game with five minutes to go because finally CRN has done what I’ve pleaded for him to do all year, forego the FG and just go for it on 4th down, ad when we finally score a TD, he goes into a prevent with our secondary so far off the ball that every time lousy Matt Barkley threw a pass it was an EASY first down or 20 yard gain. Just terrible.
3. It really galls me to see our players spill their guts and play so well ad actually dominate SUC most of the game, only to be shackled by their own coaches on offense and defense. We never risk throwing downfield. We almost never play tight on their receivers. Never. I thinks our players played amazing well tonight, given the chains their coaches put on them. I’m just so tired of it.
4. Yes, we had too many turnovers. Prince threw too many interceptions and Rosario dropped too many easy passes and Paulsen was Paulsen again in the worst of situations. But these type of human errors by players are understandable. They will happen. But what is not understandable to me is coaching that doesn’t let players play. IMO it makes them afraid of their own shadow and actually encourages the mistakes we’ve seen.
I am so disappointed by CRN’s continued playing not to lose. It’s been going on for two years and there’s no excuse for it. We may lose worse if we follow my advice, but in the long run, I think it’s the only way to develop the attitude and swagger that are the keys to a winning program.
My hats off to the players. The should have and could have won this game, if only CRN would let them try.
Though I do agree with you about the 4th down call (your point #1)
But not that it was indicative of Neuheisal not playing to win the entire game.
RIP #34
really?
I’m actually genuinely curious what your take is on our offensive approach this game. I personally saw what uclahy saw, but even more than the 4th and 1 issue, I saw an excessively timid approach on offense that centered around handing the ball off to a solid FB shoved into the role of a RB (which he isn’t suited for). I saw CRN give WAAAY too much respect to SUC’s defense by never going at them and stepping on the gas. USC is a mediocre team this year, and our offensive approach showed that we treated them as superstars.
Franklin fumbled on his one meaningful carry
And was lucky to get the ball back. Our entire offensive game plan changes with Craft in the game, and not without reason. His one pass over 15 yards was thrown into double coverage and intercepted. Prince made his own mistakes, and you can’t really hang that on the coaching staff. Rosario dropped his own passes thrown right at him. And our biggest play of the game was overturned by an absolutely inexcusable referee ruling. Neuheisal wasn’t timid in his play-calling; our guys just made mistakes and bone-headed plays.
RIP #34
I see what you're saying
I suppose what it comes down to is that it just downright depresses me that we don’t have a single true RB who won’t fumble. Within the first quarter, after the stupid pick-6, we started running with Moline. At that moment, I had a very bad feeling. It’s just sad. I sure hope that one of our RBs steps up in a major way next year w/out fumbling constantly.
You can bet that Franklin will spend a lot of time on ball security this offseason
While Jordin James will be in the mix as a freshman and hopefully Milton Knox picks up on more of the playbook so he’s an option too. We’ll have the skill, but it will be a matter of putting the time and work in, physically and mentally. Spring practice is often overblown, but for our RB’s, it will be a good look at what we have because you can see playbook knowledge and ball security.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:23 AM PST up reply actions
Love the way he runs the ball
but it doesn’t mean much if you don’t know the playbook from front to back and are disciplined enough to run to the right spaces. I think he’ll work his tail off this offseason to get those things ironed out though so we could see a lot more of him next year. Heck, if we make a bowl, we have 3 weeks to practice so we could see more of him then.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:25 AM PST up reply actions
Making a bowl will only do wonders to address issues like this
I’m confident in our rb’s future because things like ball security and the playbook can be taught and learned; whereas natural talent, like Franklin and Knox have, is harder to find.
RIP #34
Agree
I agree with you, longbordr52. Very conservative offense with no gamebreaking speed in the backfield. Really dissappointed with fullbacks in the backfield most of the night.
by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
+1
I am tired of 4th and 1 (technically 2 here but the ball was about 4 inches shy of the 41 and the marker was about 3 inches past the 40) being some sort of black box for the coach until the last 5 minutes. What are you afraid of? Line up, execute and take your lumps. The team will convert enough times to give it some confidence. Punting is losing. Let the kids play.
by BruinsRule on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well I've got my dose of hyperbole for the day
1. Clearly he wasn’t trying to get 20 yards. He thought our punter could pin them down. We lost on that gamble. But what would you be saying if we got them down at the 2 yard line up against a defense that had been playing well early in the game for the first time all season? That’s right. It would have been a great move. If our D had been getting smashed early as usual, then undoubtedly I’d like to have seen us go for it on 4th and 1, but given how we were playing on D, the decision isn’t the no brainer you seem to think it is.
2. I agree that we shouldn’t be giving their receivers a cushion late in the game, but what do KP’s interceptions have to do with playcalling? Was it the playcalling that made him telegraph where he wanted to go with the ball? Was it the “penalty of death” preventing him from throwing 15+ yards or was it the often rapidly collapsing pocket that forces KP to move?
3. I saw plenty of throws downfield. Most of them were bad. Most of the rest of them were dropped. Just because they didn’t complete doesn’t mean they weren’t called.
4. And you’ve just found a different way to say points 1, 2, and 3. Numbering them differently doesn’t make them separate points.
All in all, a few valid points served up with a huge dose of overreach.
We ran vertical routes all game
but did you see how deep their safeties were? You can’t go deep if they’re going to drop as far as they were. We needed to do a better job short and in the running game, forcing the safeties to play honest. Then and only then would the deep game open up. The big issue we had is that Chow is a long-term game planner who will give some up to get a lot late. All the setting up went out the window when Prince got hurt though.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
The entire tone of the game changed with Prince coming out. Chow has always been a table-setter; this doesn’t work with your qb going down halfway through the game.
RIP #34
No
I for one wasn’t very happy with the tone of the game while Prince was in. And while it certainly didn’t improve after he left, it didn’t appear to me that we were headed for victory with him in. I don’t think the tone changed much at all. Craft tried to run a few times, but other than that, we continued to sputter. Understand, my criticism isn’t altogether with either of the QBs, but with the “tone” of the game for the entire 60 minutes.
With Prince in I felt we had a direction. I thought he was getting better as he was going and shaking off that rough start--the injury negated that.
With Craft in it felt more desperation than anything. It’s hard to really argue about this, but this is what I feel like was happening; we’ll never really know for sure
RIP #34
It occurs to me
That when he says “deep” he means 25+ yards over the top. As you mention, that wouldn’t have been advisable given how they were playing us. My idea of deep in this case are the medium range 10-15 yarders that the defense was giving us that we weren’t converting. I have to admit I didn’t see exactly how they were playing in the backfield because I tend to fixate on the LOS and the first five yards. It stands to reason that we had opportunities in the second level because they were dropping back into deeper coverage.
Those 10-15 yarders and a consistent running game is what we needed
That would have forced their safeties to step up, giving us room over the top. I commented to my brother a few times that I’ve never seen safeties as deep as theirs and if you’re SC, why not? Until we proved that we could consistently convert in the 10-15 yard range, there was no reason to bring them up and leave yourself susceptible for the long ball.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
You're right Tydides
I’m talking down the field, 25+, yes.
Yes, the SUCs played their safety very deep most of the day, but they played everybody else tight with the safety running to where KP was looking. That doesn’t mean you can’t throw deep to loosen up the tight corners.
But this is the minor point. The major point is that we played vanilla on offense and defense schematically with only occasional blitzes. The major point is that CRN is, to my astonishment, way too conservative.
He didn’t start playing to win until we were down two touchdowns. He kept out our speedy backs until it was desperation time. As noted above, Chane Moline is a great fullback and has the heart of a tiger, but he is not a tailback.
I don’t fault CRN for his technical skills, his ability to coach players, his love for UCLA, his recruiting, his energy and enthusiam for his players. I’m just shocked he doesn’t go for TDs the entire game in four down territory. I’m so tired of our secondary playing so far off wide outs like they’re the second coming of Jerry Rice. We’re not that talented yet to play and win so conservatively. We have to take risks, shut down part of the opponent’s game. Make them beat us.
AND YES THE REFS WERE HORRIBLE, especially on the Rosario call. He was clearly down and the ball only popped out after he landed on his back. Terrible. And the callback of the Franklin lateral run was unforgiveable. "We blew the whistle so it doesn’t count. Huh? Really.
But we can’t change the refs. We can change CRN’s attitude.
I HAVE TO SAY OUR TEAM PLAYED WITH CLASS AND GUTS AND I LOVED THE THROWBACKS. LET’S KEEP THEM PERMANENTLY.
It's interesting that such a vanilla offense
Produced results that were largely better than SUC’s. The box score doesn’t lie. If conservative is what allows us to outgain SUC outside of the no class play at the end and many of our drives cut short by our own stupid mistakes, then that’s what I want to see in the game. “We” don’t need to change CRN’s attitude if his attitude is what puts our players in a position to win. Our guys played with a lot of heart and passion, but they did make mistakes, and I don’t see you acknowledging that or even factoring it in to why our coaches called the game the way they did. And if you still insist on hammering away at this whole throw the ball deep nonsense despite their safeties playing over the top, then it isn’t CRN that needs fixing around here, or do I need to remind you that we don’t exactly have the gamebreaking speed to go stride for stride with SUC when their safeties start off deep? What do you think going deep does? It increases the likelihood of doing more of what killed us in this particular game. If we couldn’t complete the 10-15 yard plays that they were practically begging us to take, what makes you think we’re going to be able to deliver on the 25+ yard plays with a line that doesn’t always give us that kind of time? Your complaint is making less and less sense the more I think about it.
You know.
I’m gonna say this is one of the worst nights of my college career. I started College with 13-9 and ended wit this. I see progress and all that, but my disappointment kind of overshadows everything right now.
Chetey show some class?
what do you expect? the only class they know of is that of Senora Ross
Fuck!!!!
Need to wait a year for revenge!!!!!
by Bruin'96 on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
It sucks
only because i was too young to remember the glory days when we wooped their ass 8 years in a row. I’m glad we have been turning our program around recently…but Man…Beating SUC is my main priority every year because of how much S%^& they give everyone .
From an Oregon paper
“Unsportsmanship is alive and well in the Pac-10”
USC coach Pete Carroll showed no class in throwing deep for a TD with less than a minute left against UCLA.
I don’t care that it’s a crosstown rivalry. USC was up 21-7. Matt Barkley had just knelt down to run the clock, and Rick Neuheisel had committed the offense off calling timeout.
The Bruins couldn’t have stopped the clock enough to score twice, but where in the unwritten rules does it say you should meekly accept defeat? There’s always the chance for a fumble, and a TD, and an onside …
But no matter. Even if there’s no chance, what Carroll did in response was bush-league.
As I thumb through the unwritten rulebook, I see on Pg. 1 where it’s wrong to throw deep for a TD one play after kneeling down to run out the clock.
So in the last few weeks in the Pac-10, we have:
- Jim Harbaugh’s no-class 2-point conversion attempt while Stanford led by 27 in the second half against Carroll’s Trojans. That act diminished an otherwise fantastic day for the Cardinal.
- Carroll’s no-class TD against UCLA. It’s just the latest, and perhaps most brazen, example from Carroll. He’s done similar things before, though not this brazen.
Larry Scott, the new Pac-10 commissioner, should talk with both coaches, read through those unwritten rules, and suggest they try some class.
by drebruin on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
I'm not sure I understand
what the big problem is? I missed the last minutes because I was so disgusted. Can I read Plaschke’s summary as fair and accurate, just not his interpretation? Did Rick just not accept a knee as the end and call a timeout? If he didn’t, down 14, then it is fair game to keep playing. Keep playing means play to win. I just don’t understand this.
This IS the essense of why we’ll continue to lose to Carroll. Although unclassy, he has that killer instinct and we’re still worrying about etiquettes and convention? We should have been up with our offense and we’re complaining about something like that????!!!! I"m pissed and so sick of losing to these obnoxious, classless, motherfuckers! I work in L.A. and have to deal with these spoiled pricks, but it’s worse that our offense couldn’t get anything going through 3 1/2 quarters.
Barkley is only going to get better, and frankly, I’m not confident in Rick’s ability to beat Carroll even in the Rose Bowl next year. Maybe things will be better, but I predict Chow leaves because of a contrast in their philosophies. Rick is too conservative and very Dorrellian. He had some great moments with our offense. Maybe it came down to a redshirt freshman quarterback going against a wily veteran Defensive coordinator in Carroll, but I’m SICK of the excuses. This SUCKS!
I'm sorry, I have to see the play to make a judgment
I just would like to beat those guys with our football and not have anything to complain about after the game. We have to go another year now. This is 10 out of the last 11 years. I’ll get over this in a couple of days, but their dominance is so prevalent as football, it sucks, especially when I’m passionate about my team. It’s just a game, but we didn’t compete tonight on offense. I can’t help but think what was going through our defense’s heads tonight: “Jesus, our coaches and offense aren’t doing it again for us.” It’s disappointing and we shouldn’t be whining about a coach going for the kill. He did show a wildlife video, so maybe it was proper for him to go for the jugular as the wildabeast fought unnecessarily. We should be whining about losing again and not showing up on offense.
I guess that's the same killer instinct
That makes you whine about another coach running up the score only to do the same thing 2 weeks later, right? Makes sense that you’d defend Petey though seeing as how that’s the party line your boy Splashme is pushing. Pretty sure he’s one of the toolbags that had a problem with Harbaugh a couple of weeks ago too… Funny how he has changed his tune. It’s almost like he doesn’t know WTF he’s talking about…
like I said
I didn’t see the sequence of events and I’m not agreeing with Plaschke. I just read his summary because someone said he wrote on it. If you’re Neuheisel, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t call a timeout and show fight and then expect the opponent to just go along with what you’re doing. I don’t know what the timing was, but could we have gotten the ball back and made the score a little better? If so, then maybe that’s incentive for Pete to not want to let that happen. Neuheisel should have just conceded, but he fought and Neuheisel treated him like the little brother.
When is that going to stop? We being the little brother in this latest rivalry of Pete dominated football. I’m starting to think we need a tougher coach, maybe someone like Toledo back or a southern guy like Bowden or Spurrier. I doubt they would have called a timeout when a loss was inevitable, then whined when the big dog went for the kill and finished off any last efforts to win. We need a cocky, tough coach walking that sideline. Dorrell and Neuheisal are turning out to be much alike.
Guess you don't watch much football then
Because what CRN did is pretty common. For that matter, what Cheatey did is also somewhat common, although not as blatant (like when Harbaugh did it). But speaking of “having it both ways”, you don’t get to decry the evils of running up the score and then do it the very game after you complain about it. And seeing as how Splashme was one of the morons singing that sad song before, it sure is “interesting” that he chooses to ignore it now that Cheatey is the one being a classless a-hole.
That’s just the thing about the so called “whining”: CRN didn’t complain about it. He said there was time left on the clock and you play ball. Cheatey did complain about it and got caught being a massive hypocrite.
And nice job
citing something from a week ago in which I was just complimenting Plaschke’s satire. Nice one.
no, the minute I came on here
hoping that we pulled off a miracle, I started to see classless Carroll did this, he finished us off when we were perpetuating the inevitable. I’m pissed and disgusted at losing again and not showing up offensively, being soft and unaggressive. This whole thing with Carroll is just a distraction from the real issue: Can Neuheisel win and be a tough foofball coach, or is he going to be this nuanced, Dorrellian guy and get sympathy for getting a low class last minute act by Carroll. I don’t know about you, but I don’t care about subtelties and distractions in this whole thing. I want to win and be a tough team.
Actually you just admitted before that the game was over in your mind
by saying that CRN should “have just conceded”. That’s inconsistent with whatever admiration you have for Pom Pom scoring his final TD because that would no longer be considered “finishing us off” but rather “running up the score”, an act that he whined about before. Meanwhile you talk about wanting our team to be tough and CRN to be a tough football coach but only when it comes to not calling timeouts to send a message to your team to fight to the very end. So what is it? “You can’t have it both ways”
If it's not over in Rick's mind
then Pete has to finish him off. No problem there and I’m sure Rick doesn’t have a problem with that. Going for the touchdown isn’t as egregious as people are making it out to be. I see everyone else does and it’s weak. And fighting til the end with timeouts isn’t much consolation to me. I don’t know about you, but I would have rather have seen some better plays on offense in the first 3 1/2 quarters as fighting.
CRN doesn't have a problem with that, he said as much
And if Pom Pom never complained about it when he was on the wrong end of it, there would be fewer people nationally that would have a problem with it. But he did. And his displeasure was taped for the world to hear. No one here is out of bounds for pointing out Pom Pom’s massive hypocrisy, because it only helps to drive into the national consciousness what we’ve been saying here on BN for years now. I don’t care how much consolation it is to you. If you drank yourself under the table tonight, then fine, I don’t give a shit. If your problem is that there’s not enough “game talk”, then you could have participated in some of the threads that are about the game above. But you didn’t. You came on here to spread the gospel of Plaschke while ignoring the fact that he’s a fucking hypocrite just like Cheatey.
I hope we focus on the real issues
tomorrow and not distractions like the touchdown. I can accept that people think it was bush league, definitely, but my main problem is that we don’t play good enough offensive football to win. It sucks.
No one's stopping you from putting up a fanpost or whatever
On what you consider the “real” issues or from commenting on posts above that appear to reference the “real” issues. Personally, I have faith that our fanbase has the mental capacity to concentrate on more than one thing at a time, including Cheatey and Splashme’s rampant hypocrisy.
I guess what I'm trying to say
is this: this touchdown and action by Carroll is no new thing. We know the guy’s a classless prick. But is calling it out going to make our team any better. I was just surprised to find it as the main issue with the game when I was so focused on our inept play offensively. We knew we had to score touchdowns to win and we didn’t. The touchdown and Pete not being able to take the high road is not a surprise. I wasn’t surprised, at all. I am sad and surprised that we’ve lost the 10th time in 11 years.
And I'm exploring in my mind
how to get some leverage back. I sincerely apologize for indicting anyone feelings on the touchdown as classless. That’s not what I meant to do, but rather wake people up to the real issue: they have our number and what are we really going to do about it.
Now that you mention it
Maybe it will. The lifeblood of a program is recruiting. And it couldn’t possibly hurt to stain that a-hole in the national consciousness. There’s already the pathetic way he “supported” Mark Sanchez when he declared for the draft. Now we make the general public see what a whiny hypocrite he is. So now when recruits talk to Cheatey about joining up with SUC, they’ll have to weigh the paycheck they’ll get against playing for an unsupportive primadonna hypocrite a-hole who won’t develop their skills. Personally, I don’t see what bitching and moaning about losing X times in Y years is going to do to make our team better either. I don’t see what saying “we should have scored touchdowns” is going to do to make our team better.
point taken
maybe when the dust settles and my anger settles, I’ll realize he shot himself in the foot with that. It’ll dawn on me. Hopefully we will get the kids who will want to help Rick get revenge on an unclassy act, but they’ll also have to have the confidence in Rick for in-game adjustments. I just don’t really have that confidence now in him. We played very vanilla football and I’m tired of “we’ll get em next year.” This was our year to get win when they were wounded. I’m done ranting, it’s just a game. Goodnight.
Okay, that's fine
But I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out the box score from tonight. You might be surprised at what our “vanilla football” accomplished. In fact, a glance at the box score confirmed what I saw tonight; that it was mistakes and errors in judgment that did us in. How much of that can be attributed to coaching and game plan is up for debate, but I defy anyone to look at those stats and turn around and tell me that CRN isn’t making significant progress. Look at some of the past years’ box scores too for reference to see what I’m talking about. I also disagree with the whole “this was our year” mindset. We need to get to the point that we don’t care if SUC is “wounded” or not, because we’re a good team too. I’m sure that’s CRN’s vision too.
So I looked at the box score
And it appears pretty even with us having the more time of possession-so it seemed they went for a grind out, but what I couldn’t get over was how we made 2 appearances close to the red zone-the fumble on SCs 31 and the touchdown in the middle of the 4th.
Also, why didn’t we hit more receivers, like Austin or Embree, before the 4th quarter? Chane along with Rosario had 5 catches. When did Chane Moline become this great multi-purpose back? Or actually he’s a good receiver for Chow, but where were more catches to the receivers and tide ends?
And why did we give Moline the most carries. He had something like 12 carries for 15 yards and it was so spread out with the rest. The coaches had a game plan, I give them that-to grind and give another look-but they should have made adjustments to find the right running back.
And I know the coaches don’t play, but 4 turnovers. That’s disappointing. We should be farther along by the 24th game of Rick’s tenure and especially with a wiz like Chow.
Uh
We’ve been trying to find the “right back” all season long. We thought it was Jet Ski but then he started fumbling practically every time he touched it, and then he did it again in this game but fortunately got it back. The sad fact is that with Franklin getting his fumbleitis, that leaves Moline, Knox who is having some problems out of non wildcat sets, and Coleman, who probably should have gotten more touches. And if you saw the nature of those 4 turnovers, I’d really like to know how you hold the coaches responsible for that. especially the Rosario fumble and the first pick 6.
Rosario and Prince
are young, I know. So I have to be patient. But I hope once we get to the point where we have some guys in the system and Prince more starts, things start clicking. I don’t have the answers, just suppositions. Even with that said, I think Prince could of and should have connected more last night and had a better game. And I agree that Coleman should have gotten more carries. Moline-12 carries for 15 yards, really? I mean, really?
another ucla sc game in the books
it was cold, it was pretty sloppy, neither offense looked great, but I’m proud of how the defense played. The offensive line was flat out over matched, so hats off to KP and KC for gutting it out and trying to make plays with their feet.
The SC crowd never really seemed into it. It never got that loud, and they never seemed that intimidating. I felt like I was watching a crappy Big 10 game, and I dont think the SC fans are used to that haha. Anyway, the final play kind of speaks for itself, all I can say is revenge is gonna taste sweet.
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Had to miss the game
Only one question comes to mind after reading everything. Why is there such shock that Cheatie Petie would act like an ass? That’s the way he is, and the way all trOJies are and always have been. So why the surprise?
Bill Splashme does it again
Go read his article today. It says Rick Neuheisel was the poor sport and Cheatey’s decision was perfectly fine!!! What an idiot!!!!
he always stands up for Pete
or should I say gets on his knees for pete…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
Karma begins in Feb
Look for recruits to pull a Morell Presley and Randal Carroll on signing day. Lets not forget that we WILL continue to get better as we stockpile the talent on both sides of the ball.
I AM SO PROUD OF CRN AND THIS TEAM THAT I AM LICKING MY CHOPS FOR NEXT YEAR.
I HAVE FAITH IN THIS TEAM.
I HAVE FAITH IN UCLA HEAD FOOTBALL COACH RICK NEUHEISEL.
I HAVE FAITH IN THE BRUINS.
Let’s get a countdown clock up for next year’s game. Let’s count the months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, and freaking heartbeats until we get these guys back on our front lawn.
I’M SERIOUS..
Let’s keep our eyes on the prize, ‘cause the trophies to end all trophies are an ashen-haired noggin mounted over Rick Neuheisel’s fireplace and a white horse-skin rug on the floor below it.
I watched the game with a family of Bruins, and one person — a 40-year-alum whom I truly love and respect — was so frustrated that he actually wanted CRN to be FIRED because they thought CRN brought on Pom-Pom’s move on us and embarrassed us more.
This same Bruin alum was so heartbroken that didn’t want us to go to a Bowl game and get extra practice because they thought we would just embarrass ourselves.
Another Bruin called in via cellphone from a sports bar and wanted NC fired. Not making this up, people. MY watching compatriots were LIVID.
And me, you ask? I was PUMPED.
Not happy, hell NO. No "moral victory" glow here. NO WAY.
But I was ready to suit up and run through a plate-glass window for CRN, and go shoulder-block first into the first Trojan beer-belly gut I could find. Shoot, Ms. M was ready to slash the Humanitarian’s tires herself.
I couldn’t help but wonder when was the last time we thought we had such a good shot at nailing these cheaters that we would get this PISSED OFF.
Now mind you, moral victories suck. They suck colostomy bags.
Am I disappointed? SURE I AM.
Do I think we shouldn’t have gone Dorellian in the past-50 punt, that Jet Ski should have gotten into the game sooner, that Knox would have torn their ain’t-what-they-used-to-be LBs up? HELL YES (albeit with the disclaimer about JetSki’s fumble proving WHY we were gun-shy…. man, get some stickum…)!
But CRN proved one thing to me in last night’s game against the Trojans. If nothing else, one thing was proven to me beyond a sliver of a shadow of a doubt.
RICK. HATES. THE. TROJANS.
Rick hates the Trojans with the fury and conflagration of a thousand suns. Hates them so much that he would never throw God’s Gift to ESPN, not if it meant he’d have to sacrifice the opportunity to get behind the wheel and DRIVE that bus right over both of Petey’s faces, and then fishtail-skidding over his nether regions.
And that’s damn well how it SHOULD be.
I am PROUD of this team. The outcome was not ideal, but the improvement was REAL.
Our D, inconsistent most of the year, played them tough for most of the game, keeping the outcome in doubt up until Pour-it-on Pete was shocked — SHOCKED — we wouldn’t go down without a fight. He was mortally offended that we didn’t just bow down and kiss his effing ring like he was the GD Pope.
And that’s how we played all night, dang it.
ATV played and fought with toughness and HONOR from the get-go. So proud my 8-year-old math whiz of a son wears his jersey while watching the games.
Reggie got in there and mixed things up all night… and while I don’t condone unnecessary violence, look who was the first one across the filed when the benches cleared. #51 went out with HONOR.
B. Price scared the holy crap out of them, and still, disrupted them after a TrOJan player rolled over his knee in the 2nd half. Nothing but HONOR.
C-Train Moline did what he was asked to do to the bets of his limited abilities. Sorry, folks — C-Moline is NOT a tailback, is NOT a speed back, is NOT a breakaway runner…. but he is tough, reliable, and WILL FIGHT for every inch of turf and daylight he can find. And I will not ask for any more of a Bruin than that. An HONORABLE warrior on the field.
Did a lot of our offensive weapons take themselves out of the game? Heck yes… but think of where they were just 2 months ago:
Prince couldn’t chew solid food. A year ago, he couldn’t run due to a knee injury. NOW? Two picks aside, PRINCE IMPROVED THIS SEASON. With another year under CRN and NC — aka Kirk and Spock — he will continue to grow and improve. HE WILL BE BACK.
Rosario? We didn’t know WTF he could give us as recently as September, and he grew into a featured receiver, a possibly legit #1 receiver. Did the pressure get to him? Probably. BUT HE WILL BE BACK.
Franklin? The guy goes BACKWARD, picks up a lateral OFF THE GROUND, and STILL runs 25+ yards?!?!? That play and the fumble encapsulates his season — an abundance of talent, an absence of grip. He, along with the other backs, will hopefully learn that you can only get on the field by proving you can help the TEAM stay on the field. I have abundant faith that the running backs will learn, and that THEY WILL BE BACK.
For those who might be losing faith, consider this: we are losing seniors that are quality, all-conference types — Carter and Verner. Others who give their all, but will be hard-pressed to play on Sundays — Moya, Moline, Siewerski, the Bosworths. Others who were maddeningly inconsistent with asinine penalties or drops weighing down their considerable talent — Paulsen, Austin.
Now think of how many notable juniors we have… Price and, uh, hmmm…
There’s a reason we started sophs and freshmen galore. WE NEEDED TO. The breakout-junior cupboard is a bit thin on both sides of the ball. The young talent is THERE, and reinforcements are ON THE WAY.
Just look at how far we’ve come. TWO MORE WINS. A clear starter at QB. A growing stable of backs. A developing core on the O-line. A talented young secondary led by the best thief living in L.A. since George Clooney raided 3 Vegas casinos in one night..
The saintly facade of Pope Petey the Worst is weakening. In just 2 years, Rick got under his skin and shoved bamboo under his fingernails. "Just compete" Pete couldn’t stand that someone dared to do it to him. Tell Aaron Eckhart that Prickly Pete wants to take over the role of Two-Face in the next Batman/ Dark Knight movie, and he’ll do it without CGI.
I want a Bowl Game. i don’t care if it’s with James Cameron’s Avatar-turf in Idaho, or in the desert of New Mexico, or at some podunk high school field in rural Pennsylvania. And I will beg and plead to Ms. M to let me go to it, because I want to be there and see what another 3 weeks of practice can do for this team.
Think about it BruinsNation. The TrOJans had:
(a) a bye week
(b) home-field advantage
© more depth at every position imaginable
(d) an opponent with one less day of normal practice due to the holiday…
… and even after they "poured it on", THAT WAS THE BEST THEY COULD DO?!?
That was all they had? They needed us to give them the ball four times to beat us by three scores?
Start the countdown for next year. I have never been so pumped up after a LOSS than I am RIGHT NOW.
Payback is a bitch. And next year, they’re OURS.
Tick tock tick tock tick tock…
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Nov 29, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
That should be throwing God's Gift "under a bus" but you get the idea...
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Brilliant Post, M
Mistakes kill – as if we haven’t learned that lesson enough the last two years. Without ours, we win.
Memo to Cheatey: What’s your deal? What’s your deal? (Sorry Cheatey, I accidentally channeled you for a minute.) Was that you competing forever when you tried to run the clock at the end of the first half before we starting taking timeouts and forcing you to actually, er, compete?
In a series filled with strings of wins – ours for most of the ’80’s; theirs in the late ’80’s; our eight straight; their current run – the pendulum is swinging back our way.
Tick tock tick tock tick tock…
Louisiana born, California grown - bleed Blue and Gold, with a healthy dose of Purple mixed in.
by ucla84 on Nov 29, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
I am as pissed as anyone
over the last minute debacle.
However, I hope it doesn’t distract from that fact that, once again, we were completely inept on offense and had a puzzling gameplan at best. This is a USC team that recently gave up 55 points at home to Stanford, yet we got shut out until a late TD.
We have a LOT of work to do and if Chow/RN don’t stop this conservative “play not to lose big” type of approach that drove me nuts under Dorrell they are going to lose me.
Unfortunately
… this is the truth. The controversy over the ending distracts from a sobering truth… we played a pretty mediocre SC team and lost. Our defense was capable, but our offense was ineffective. We made some improvement over last year… but minimal. With a third class recruited by these coaches next year will be telling… if we don’t win 8 next year, including beating SC, the CRN era won’t look much better than the Dorrell era.
And in the end, I really, really, really want to beat SC next year.
Pretty much agree
but it is a tough schedule next year so I’m not going to sit any demand as far as wins. What I want to see is improved discipline and decision making, and above all else we absolutely must beat SC.
RN deserves some leeway given the state of the program when he took over but by year three it’s time to see tangible improvement in the way of consistency and execution.
Best thing that happened to CRN
Now we can all focus on revenge rather than our pathetic offense. Remember this is the same USC defense that Oregon and Stanford just crushed. That is what disappoints me most about CRN and NC. At least I thought we would see some wide open and creative football. The target of our ire should be our coaches. They are the ones responsible for our our 7 points.
by Harco on Nov 29, 2009 7:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
YOU ARE MY BROTHERS
First off, I just want to say THANK YOU to each and everyone of you for carrying enough to suffer through another year of pain when we all know in our heart of hearts that it didn’t have to be this way. I was at the game sick as hell last night- no voice, but yelling anyway and headache from days of coughing — Jack Daniels actually cleared me up! I’m a BRUIN, F-IT…and knowing what I know this morning, I would do it again.
To Nestor’s point “Obviously, there are strategies on our coaches’ part we can question.” Yes, & going through last nights examples only pours salt on a open wound. Payback will come, all of us understand that, & when it does I won’t rub it in, that’s the SC way… their moaning over Stanford’s +2 try, than to pour it on us? What comes around, goes around.
Still, I’m not interested in revenge, I’m interested in us as an offense that can put TDs on the board instead of FGs and run over D’s in a consistent & methodical way. I’m interested in a D that gets sacks & doesn’t play prevent when the game is still in question.
CRN, CNC, CCB you guys have the tools, but TIME WON’T WAIT FOR YOU— as General Patton once said: “A good plan executed today is far better than a perfect plan tomorrow”.
BTW: UCLA = HEART. You can hear from far and near the Mighty Bruin roar!
How many times this season have we watched one of our QB’s wonder why his receiver cut in instead of out or out instead of in? How many times have we watch CRN “explain” to his QB what he did wrong? At some point we have to take a hard look at the instructor. We have B+ talent performing at a C+ level. Good coaches do the exact opposite. Our team simply does not execute on the field. It’s not about talent or lack of. That is always an excuse of mediocrity. I am hopeful for the future, but based upon what I have seen the past two years, not very optimistic. Sure, we’ll hang in there with CRN; what choice do we have? But at some point in the very near future he has our coach has to give us more than just that.
Un FUCKING Believeable...
I missed the last minute of that game and just saw the replay on Fox. Pete Carroll has lost control.
Did Carroll really think he could pull that shit without repercussions? Did he think that wouldn’t create any anger that would get some of his fans hurt or some of his players either last night or in a future game?
I know CRN is too classy to instruct any of his players to do anything intentionally, but since Petey insists on playing everything to the whistle, who wants to bet that we don’t play next year’s game with a dangerous passion…perhaps a few late hits, perhaps an after-whistle shot at Barkley’s knees, perhaps taking out their kicker on a kickoff, perhaps a punt coverage guy running down the sideline and launching themselves into Pete helmet first.
What an unbelievable dick. I hated USC with a white-hot passion before last night, but now I want to pile on in every sport, in every way. No mercy anywhere…forever.
Prediction…we will beat the shit out of them next year at the Rose Bowl.
I totally get your anger
but with me it reached it’s plateau a long time ago. I was flicking off the tv and saying “fuck you, Pete” when Barkley threw that interception. I was relishing that prick having to see his team fuck up. I hate him. But is anyone really going to remember and be that bitter in a month or a year over that late td? Do we want to play vengeful football next year or good, smart football?
I’m just not surprised by those pricks anymore. They are the villains. I hate those sneering, smug asshole coaches with their snide smiles, along with Carroll. But the bottom line is we have to play the brand of football that will beat them. As the dust and anger settles in my mind, I think the big thing is that I hope recruits will not want to play for that unprincipled prick.
Phlaske Poll
Phlashke is a douche
phlashke will be unemployed once the la times goes out of business with a failing business model
once unemployed phlaske will be Found on skidrow, unemployed and broke because no one will hire him for his subjective Trojan loving writing.
Once unemployed phlaske will be hired by PC as his official tweet bitch.
Phlaske is REALLY a douche
by hongerelli on Nov 29, 2009 9:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If LA times goes under and he loses his job.
He’ll just be hired by ESPN where he can suck up to ’SC even more, or hell the Daily Trojan.
Malcolm Smith's quote
“We are kind of back to that attitude. Just be the players we’re supposed to be.”
Yup… you guys showed you’re all classless a-holes.
liked the Sportscenter Highlight call
“… and now, everyone wants to know: Pete Carroll, what is your deal? WHAT is your DEAL!?”
Absolute, utter classlessness
I am not a Bruin, nor a PAC 10 guy at all. I am an Alabama alum and still sort of nurse a grudge about our 2000 trip to Pasadena. However, I state here and now, unequivocally, that I will be watching the cross-town game for the rest of my life, and will don powder blue and gold at all times.
As disgusting and hypocritical as the final 51 seconds were, they pale in comparison to the reaction thereafter. In one post-play moment, USC and Pete Carroll revealed more about their character than any of the coach’s aging-hipster platitudes, or ESPN puff pieces, ever could.
Words like arrogant, taunting, smug, bush league, classless don’t even begin to do justice to the goodwill that was destroyed amongst neutral observers. ESPN and Plaschke can spin the “compete forever” meme all they want; from this side it came across as the actions of a petulant, juvenile asshat who doesn’t even remotely understand the words honor, integrity, sportsmanship.
Go Bruins!
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 29, 2009 11:28 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
Glad to know neutral observers saw that
Appreciate your support
ROLL TIDE!
Troy will fall...again, again, and AGAIN!
by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 29, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
On the coaching comments yesterday and all season
There seem to be a lot of people second guessing our game plan and play calling in this game, as well as throughout the season. Too conservative in personnel, too conservative in play calling, too conservative in going for it on 4th down, etc etc.
Yesterday’s game is an example of why, throughout the season, conservative offensive play was the only way to play to our strengths. We didn’t lose yesterday through overly conservative play-calling; we lost because we turned the ball over at inopportune moments due to poor decision-making and poor technique (and poor refereeing….)
We led the Pac-10 in net punting average. That means we are good at punting.
Going into the game, we led the Pac-10 in scoring defense, despite the fact that our defense had to be on the field more than their fair share due to our inability to sustain offensive drives. That means we are good at playing defense.
We did not have the muscle on the offensive line all season to establish a run game or protect our quarterback adequately. Putting fumble-prone speed backs out there in the hope they break a play out of nothing, or calling for long passes from a quarterback under pressure, would not play to our strengths at all. It might be more fun to watch, but I don’t think it would have been more effective.
6-6 this year, with a good win at Tennessee and a 3-6 record in the deepest Pac-10 in years, hanging tough even in the losses, is a step forward in CRN year 2. If we can get 8 wins next year with a much harder non-conference slate, that would be awesome.
by britishbruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I know Coach doesn't want us to say this...
But FUCK $C*.
I wish I still had the T-shirt that said this.
The long bomb was a classless act on Cheatey’s part to call it, but it was on us to defend a play like that and not leave someone wide open. Because we didn’t defend it, we were embarrassed. I’m behind CRN all the way on calling the timeout at the end. Keep fighting until the bitter end. You gotta give Cheatey credit for intensifying the rivalry. I can’t wait until next year. There’s a reason why every team hates $C*.
by solidgoldsound on Nov 29, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions

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