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UCLA Bruins at Long Beach St. 49ers, Nov 29, 2009 11:30 AM PST


Perhaps our basketball team fill find a way to close up this weekend on a positive note. I am having a hard time putting last night behind me (don't think I will be able to for next 370 days). Still at least for the time being we have to distract ourselves just a little bit as Coach Howland and his team take on Long Beach State 49ers to close out the 76 Classic.

Per bucknellbruin and others who watched the game JA had a little bit of awakening towards the end of the Butler game as he finally looked to have a bit of confidence during the waning moments. Let's hope he can continue to build on it this afternoon. The tipoff is scheduled for 11:30 am PST.  I believe will be broadcast on ESPNU. You can track it via the official site. You can also read up a quick preview on the SBN game page.

As always if you are watching the game, share your instant thoughts/commentary here in our game thread. Fire away.

GO BRUINS.

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JA did show something in the final couple of minutes

I was pleased to see him take the (momentarily) tying shot during out last possession. Given his struggles over the past few games, it was good to see him have enough confidence to shoot, when the D gave him the opening.

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

Last night's result still hanging over....

I had lost track of our game being so early this morning; was not even on my mind until receiving an IM from another Bruin about it a few moments ago.

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah

Hard to think about basketball this am.

by Nestor on Nov 29, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Al Groh is finally out at UVa - hit tWWL a couple of minutes ago

Not that many on here care (and after last night, it is not seeming that big a deal to me).

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Big to big double!

I’m loving it. Force a travel

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

Guess they chose espnu

although the site said “espn 2 of U”. Anyone know of a stream?

by Chris09 on Nov 29, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

I think its on

Los Angeles ESPN of Anaheim

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

JA beats the buzzer

Then feeds MR on the break for an and-1 layup. Nice job

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Drago in the game

Promptly gives up an and-1…

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Hate these pre-noon tipoffs

I went to the game Friday night and saw some signs of life from this team. I couldn’t make it down to Anaheim this morning tho- I’m still in a foggy state. Hopefully our guys are more alert than I am right now.

by insomniacslounge on Nov 29, 2009 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

Damn

DG picks up his 2nd foul

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

Honeycutt says he'll be back next week versus Kansas

Hopefully that’s true and not just a kid being overanxious in wanting to get back on the floor.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

Hope so

The last update that I heard on his recovery did make it seem that he would be healed in time, if not in game shape.

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Reeves hangs out on the baseline

Gets rewarded with a layup, nice interior pass by Drago.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

i still hate Dragos game

even if he plays hard.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

It's frustrating

To see him with a path to the basket the size of a runway and jack up a 3

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

his instincts are just terrible

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

COME ON DRAGO

Wasn’t even watching that…embarrassing

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Is the renovation still on schedule?

I can’t imagine that the donations are pouring in right now.

by insomniacslounge on Nov 29, 2009 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

I can't believe they would ever poor in

the vast majority of seat holders will still have terrible seats with poor sight lines.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Who wouldn't want to pay thousands more

when the seat stays in the same place and the court is moved farther away.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

But they might get a bigger socreboard to look at...

Hasn’t Jerry Jones taught us anything about stadium design??

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Because last night's loss didn't leave me upset enough

they had to bring up the renovation. At least I have hope for the football program. The Pauley renovation will kill us for years.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

Bobo!!!

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

yuck

i hate three point shooting based on offenses

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

Roll and Dragovic are getting open looks

That’s not the problem. The problem is that they’re just not hitting some very makeable shots.

by insomniacslounge on Nov 29, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i just hate watching that type of offense

not saying it doesn’t fit this roster.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

YES

Good to see that go in

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

WTF

That guy invades ML’s space and gets a bailout foul out of it? Are these SPTRs?

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Im Bobo

bitches!

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

BOBO

Getting on the floor. LOVE IT

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

From the 3rd row

These guys are frustrated. Bobo has done well so far. He is hedging well and keeping his man on D good to see him get some minutes early

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 11:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Haha

I thought they weren’t gonna call that arm mugging for a bit. Drago to the line for 2

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

poor form on his first shot

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

interesting LBSU has quit pressuring the ball

you would think with JA handling the ball, they would pressure more…

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

boy, we are just not a very good basketball team

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Baby Bruins

I can’t wait for next year.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Our supposed deadeye shooters

Are getting great looks. We aren’t gonna win games if they can’t knock em down

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

CBH must read BN… Look at all the new looks

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 12:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

that was a flop

nice 9-1 run by lbsu

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

its very tough to watch a UCLA team

that cant’ score against anyone…

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

alright

later guys.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ND is rebounding well

and his D is better, but at the end of the day, he’s a shooter and his shots aren’t going in.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Wow ND

Good thing you got bailed out on that foul, cause that was almost a freakin disaster

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

But if we continue to do this, we must be prepared to accept all the consequences of that.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If we lose today

lose to Kansas and to Notre Dame, we’ll have to win the Pac-10 to get into the tournament, most likely. I understand the “we’ll be better late in the year” way of thinking, but there’s a limit to how far you can go. What’s the point of peaking in March if you have no tourney games.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If we don't play young players, we won't win, anyway

I don’t think there is that much fall off.

It’s not like we are taking out proven effective players and putting in weaker ones.

For example, I like JK, but he’s not outplaying anyone right now.

ND is 2-7 and as hard as he is trying,he’s getting beat on D.

I’m not saying sacrifice games, but I am saying I’m not sure playing the young guys is going to be any worse

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 29, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

In that case

It’s really a matter of developing the player, but giving ourselves the best chance to win the game. I agree with that. i just don’t like the attitude of “these games aren’t as important as the ones later” because the way our season is shaping up, these are more important.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I might not have beenclear

but I think the kids are playingwell and need to play through mistakes in the same way we let the older guys do.

I think we have a better chance of winning with them.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 29, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

In which case

we’re on the same page.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Who Said ND was Rebounding Well?

He’s a disaster again today – I reference the last 3 times he was near the ball in the half.
1. Lay up by the other team.
2. Should have been a turnover on ND on the fast break – to make up for the bailout he missed a FT
3. He kept his hands at his waist on the last play letting CSLB get 2 shots off; including a tip in at the buzzer.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Well he's had 6-7 of them already

The tip in was a result of having to help on the dribble penetration. In that case, the fault lies with whoever let the little guy inside. But he has had a horrendous shooting game so far.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He also has five boards

Only one other player on the team even has two. He is rebounding well and his defense is better. It’s not good, but it’s better than it was. I also don’t know where the thought process of bringing up a sequence of events that occurred long after the comment.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is winning?

Who is a senior? Have any of his rebounds been in traffic?
Roll 3-8
Drago 2-7

Bad shot selection! I’m ready to fight over this.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

At least you do a good job of staying on topic

I’m not going to get into this with a guy who’s just talking out of anger without any reason. You’re bringing Roll into an argument that never included him. My original statement said that the problem with ND is he’s a shooter who’s not shooting and you’re nitpicking on rebounds in traffic when he has five times the rebounds of all but one player on the team. Nobody is calling him a great player, but he is doing something well. Don’t go looking for an argument when there is none just because you’re angry.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Shrug

I was disagreeing with anyone who says ND has value. It seems Keefe(defend him too) and Roll are making similar bad decisions. If you think ND is a good rebounder I’m just going to laugh. If a guy is killing your team with bad decisions it doesn’t matter how many rebounds he gets when he goes to the basket to take the ball out of the net.

1st Half
Seniors
JK 0-1
MR 3-8
ND 2-7
Total 5 -16 – 31%

Freshman
RN 2-2
BL 0-0
MM 0-3
Total 2 – 5 – 40%

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

How do all of the seniors end up in this

and how does this become a seniors vs. freshmen discussion? It was a comment on one thing ND has done well and saying he’s rebounding well does not mean he is a good rebounder. It’s a simple case of reading comprehension. I don’t know why I’m back in this argument. It’s useless with you.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan

You’re a class act.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What's up guys

Just checking in. I’m taking it easy today. I guess I couldn’t handle being in a sea of Trojans in a rundown structure they call a football stadium. The cold winds didn’t help either.

by drebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Playing a lot of the young kids

Down 1 at the half. Not making wide open shots. I think that’s an adequate first half summary

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

And no DG

2 early fouls kept him on the bench, which was a killer against a small team.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You can dis the Trojanese but lay of the Coliseum.

Too many fond memories for someone who grew up in LA and saw crowds of 100,000+ for Ram games in ’58 — not to mention 93000+ for the Roy Campenella tribute game v. Yanks in 1958. I hope it stands in the year 3000.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Alright I take that back

I wasn’t aware of all that history

by drebruin on Nov 29, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Utter frustration

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 12:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

My head

is going to explode if we lose this game

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

JK is going to start seeing a lot more of the bench

Not only has he played horribly, but the smaller things like hedging haven’t been good and he doesn’t even provide any slight hope of knocking down shots at some point like ND does.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Young guys need to learn to play when they're in foul trouble.

Saw AA do it many times (maybe not when it counted most though).

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

wow

We are getting hosed on the no calls

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Lots of leaves to rake....

Is this worth hanging out on a computer?

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Awful spacing

is killing us offensively.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Where are our points supposed to come from?

no obvious scorers.

Absolutely no inside game even though we are bigger.

Dont’ even try to go inside anymore.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 29, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

As roll limps off

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 12:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

As roll limps off

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Nov 29, 2009 12:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Can't stop dribble penetration

Going to be a long season if they don’t shore that up, and quickly.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

And I bring it up again

Are we trying to do anything different today than we’ve done against Fullerton, Concordia or last season? CBH has been as awful as any player out there.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

We could take ND off the court

Just kidding…….or am I?

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No more "they're just young" excuses

They’re being dominated by a team that starts four sophomores. LB State, Cal State Fullerton, destroyed by Portland? Those are Lavin results.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

A monster egg by Howland

How can you not make a change at some point in this awful 8 minutes. And why the hell is Gordon still on the bench? What are you waiting for?

by bluebland on Nov 29, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

This is

an all new low for UCLA bball. Extremely pathetic.

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Who would you like to go to?

ML at the point? Roll has been burned by SF’s more than JA has and that’s all of the guards we have. With our dearth of guards, we really don’t have many options.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

How is it

fucking casper can eat our D alive, but UCLA cant dribble penetrate to save its fucking life. Time to hire an offensive coordinator.

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Actually when we do get open lanes

We’re content to sit back and take the open shot. Probably a bad idea considering how cold everyone has been in this game

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

On the bright side

We now know that Bakersfield and Pepperdine will never beat UCLA if they couldn’t beat this team.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

No fight, no talent, no adjustments

There should not be one person associated with this program who isn’t thoroughly embarrassed.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Somewhere Jerry Tarkanian is Getting Off

He hated Wooden because UCLA would never play CSLB when Tark coached there. Today we’re giving that crusty old bastard his justification.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

"Playing with himself"

“Getting off”?

You’re doing this on purpose now!

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought some light imagery might provide some levity

While we’re all having our Sunday ruined by a lower tier team.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So...

I’m thinking we need McCallum more than anyone else. Ziegler would be nice too…

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Ziegler is ours for the taking

His Dad would never derail his NBA dream. Meanwhile, up until the last two weeks, Ben has built a good reputation for player development.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

A roster full of top 100 recruits

And this team would be no better than fifth in the Big West.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Fortunately...

…the Big West may be better than the Pac 10 this year.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Was just about to say that

And honestly, I have no idea how to fix how we’re getting beat on dribble penetration. Our guards need to own the responsibility. That’s all.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Recuiting

This is going to kill recuiting. Future players don’t want to go to a school and play halfcourt offense. LBS is destroying the Bruins by running, running and running. Same as top schools, unc, kansas, mich. st. vill. unconn, etc. Forget about Ziegler or Mccallum. It wont happen. CBH needs to adjust.

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

You can't run...

…if you can’t stop your opponent. Tough to run off of made baskets. They need stops and they simply cannot stop their opponents.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

This is a defensive disaster.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

run

LBS is scoring off of our made baskets!! It’s been happening all weekend!

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I said the same yesterday

I still wonder if Josh Smith and/or T. Lamb will honor their “committment” if this keeps up. They have til June. Lots of others have changed their mind before the real deadline.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Or

they already signed letters of intent and can’t change their minds anymore.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do the letters they sign in Nov. truly bind them? If so, sorry…you’d be right. I thought otherwise.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

They can't go anywhere else

unless they request and we release them, which only happens when there’s a coaching change so yes, they’re locked in.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You should be

They’re locked in with binding NLIs

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhhhh Ty

Our demise is near and UCLA basketball will fail forever. Haven’t you heard?

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I did get that memo

Perspective is stupid. I’d rather just pop in here when things are going bad and make broad overreaching statements that don’t make me look like a reactionary fool at all.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No need for sarcasm.

My comments were made out of misunderstanding of the rules.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

B-ball Knowledge Updated. Good to know.

But if this horrible play keeps up, I’ll bet those two kids are going to be doing alot of soul searching.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember that we got JF, AA and JS

three high level recruits, when we were coming off of the program’s worst season in over half of a century and were on our way to a missed tourney year. Some guys want to put a program back on top or are going for the school or the location or who knows what.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

When teams are good, sometimes top tier talent is driven away

Sometiems it doesn’t, but I’m sure it has cost us some recruits while we were going to FF’s.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Anderson

crying like a bitch when he cant hit a shot or play D

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

I hate to say it but...

…our team has the look of a team with chemistry issues.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

chemistry issues?

Nah…..can’t shoot, dribble, pass or play D

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Basketball in general is their weakness right now

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

On the bright side, we're still undefeated in Pac-10 play

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Nov 29, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

why is ND still playing AGAIN?

2-10 on FG and 0-6 from 3.
Those are a lot of missed shots. Not to mention his crappy defense

by 13-9 on Nov 29, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

+1

It’s like we’re trying to land the #1 draft pick by having the worst record

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think mostly defensively

Our guards are doing a terrible job on dribble penetration. Everything is breaking down off of that.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not sure if the guards (lee, anderson) have a lack of desire to play this afternoon or if they weren’t taught to utilize basic defensive and offensive fundamentals.

LBSU has ran the same play where the guard cuts in off of a high post screen toward the center of the lane. and i can’t believe anderson STILL trails him. He should meet the guard at the middle of the lane by moving between the screen. It takes muscle but it’s a better effort than his continued trailing. Anderson getting beat by the SAME play time and again says a lot about him as a player player and his capacity to adjust defensively. Even Lee trails when the LBSU guys are moving around the floor .

Execution of the ‘vanilla’ offense (what you guys are dubbing the offensive scheme) is poorly executed. Screens are terrible. Either the guards are moving before the screen is set and/or not using them effectively (you run right next to your teammate to get good usage of the screen) or the post players are late in setting the screens. The guards, namely anderson, can’t even maximize the simple pick and roll play when he gets a screen from the post near the wing area.

by krisk82 on Nov 29, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

When we're on offense

And we have wide open shots, they have to go in a lot more often than they have been. The first half should have seen us up by at last half a dozen.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Shot Selection

I think to build confidence the team should take shots that, statistically, we’ve been making so far this season. Or pass the ball into the low post so they can get a nice layup and/or get fouled and have an opportunity for some free shots.

We can’t win games by taking shots we haven’t been making consistently.

by krisk82 on Nov 29, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

He can help and if we were close to “getting there” he could make the difference, but we’re not remotely close.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe next week

if not then, he will have recovered for the Wooden Classic

by bruinhoo on Nov 29, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Great D and effort.

This team thinks they can walk out and get a Win because they are UCLA. They are embarrassing themselves with this effort.

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

reeves nelson

has earned a starting role in my opinion

by 13-9 on Nov 29, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Absolutely. He has the heart and the effort. He’s always gone 110%.

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Shooting

SHOOTING GUYS! THIS TEAM CANNOT SHOOT THE BASKETBALL. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Lay off the caps lock

Despite what you may have heard, it is not cruise control for cool.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it really a suprise?

We’re 2-0 without ND and 0-4 with him?

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

You can't just blame Dragovic

There are four other guys on the floor with him when he plays.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

My opinions on ND are now widely known

I’ll leave him alone for now.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Or

and this is crazy talk here. We’re 2-0 against the two worst teams we’ve played and 0-4 against the four best.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Rational thinking is not allowed.

How dare you. We’re spectacular, always.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Who let the Negative Train stop here?

I know it’s disappointing what we see, but come on people.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

It's been a tough weekend

This was our only good chance to get a win. Now look at what has happened?

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

JA

JA needs to go. Very overrated player. more TO’s than assist for the year. Huge recruiting error.

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Lee or Roll

Who else do we have that can protect the basketball? Like I said…..a big recruiting error. Guess we have to play with what we’ve got

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

The fact is that we don't have many other options

JA is going to continue to play out of necessity and CBH doesn’t have much of a choice at this point. Going back to poor scouting and recruiting though is where the problem really lies though. That’s the legitimate complaint.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruin fans sure like to be scatter shot in their complaints

But why analyze a situation and look for causes when I can lash out and react at everything? That’s so much more fun.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

wow these are teams

that we ALWAYS beat. This is not just a down year folks. Something is seriously wrong here

by 13-9 on Nov 29, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

As I said before

These are Lavin-type results. There’s no excuse for this. And I don’t care about all the talent they’ve lost. LB State is starting four freaking sophomores and dominating.

by LA Seitz on Nov 29, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Honeycutt

He’d better be the real deal or we may not win 10 games this year

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Don't put all the pressure on TH. Not fair.

Besides, he’ll be coming off weeks in inactivity.

by classof67 on Nov 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be no pressure

No expectations. Looking back at my comment – How sad is it that we’re saying it’s too much pressure for the Bruins, in general, to win 10 games?!

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

freethrows!

Can’t even make freethrows! Just shows how bad the shooting is on this team. Tell me if I’m wrong, but from what I hear, CBH’s practices are all about defense.

by LouisianaBruins on Nov 29, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Alfred Aboya wasn't the greatest free throw shooter

Last season he had improved leaps and bounds. It takes time.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This weekend SUCKS!!!

This just isn’t our weekend. Hopefully we will improve at BB and we can improve in 370 days in football. GO BRUINS!

Howland better get his guys to practice their shooting more at the freethrow line and 3 pointers.

by Forever a Bruin on Nov 29, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The one thing message boards got right

is the ignore list. SBN, where’s my ignore list!

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah I hear that

I’m not going to take away anyone’s right to make an irrational fool of themselves though.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

All i can do at this point is laugh.

I never gave up on this team, even during the lavin era. But i don’t want to root for teams that give up. This team has clearly given up.

by bruinbrah on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

Good game Roll!

We almost were competitive in that one.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh

Thanks for that. And I remember plenty of them coming off the fingers of our Serbian “sharpshooter”.

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

ND =basketball cancer!

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Optimism.

Something a lot of people have forgotten.

That and it’s something my husband and I say a lot when teams are down by a reasonable amount with less than a minute left. It can be done, even if it was only one time.

by freesia39 on Nov 29, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I like George Carlin's suggestion

He wanted to change basketball rules to award 25 points if you bounce the ball off the defender’s head and into the basket.

Check out my article about the Dodger Dugout Club.

by alcor805 on Nov 29, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I've seen KU a few times

I’ll be happy if we lose by less than 30.

formerly AZBruin

by KSBruin on Nov 29, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

JA

What does he have to do to get yanked out of a game? Carry a firearm onto the court?

by Penny2i on Nov 29, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

clueless

He is clueless. I thought he was bad on the ball, but he I think seeks screens to run into. He has no basketball feel on either end. I would rather play Hamid 40 min at this point. He has no idea where his man is off the ball. He refuses to throw the ball frequently into the interior. I am not sure we are capable of playing man-2-man. I think I would rather go big and get all our interior players minutes. Lee at point and Roll at the 2. Hide Roll in a zone since he can’t guard anyone man-2-man.

by Penny2i on Nov 29, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

if the chargers lose today

i dont know what ill do with myself

by 13-9 on Nov 29, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Theories?

I agree that something is obviously very wrong w/ this team, to lose the way we have to the teams we’ve lost to, it goes beyond, “they’re a young team,” “they’ve been injured,” etc. I’m not gonna pretend to know what the problem is, but would love to hear some theories from you guys. How do you play some decent ball against Butler and then suck so bad ly today? Could the UCLA coaches have misevaluated JA so badly? God, the season’s gonna be worse than I thought. Kansas in a week—great.

by la-ukla on Nov 29, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

they don't have the resilience

that all our previous teams had. in the past it’s as if when we were down every guy on the court took it as a personal challenge to bring us back. our guys today, in the second half, simply looked like they just gave up after going down by 10

by greatness-bruin on Nov 29, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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