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centering my thoughts

Well the boys showed some ability and heart tonight.   As it turns out our maligned guard play is not my biggest area of long term concern.   JA did earn some minutes back, although I would still rather see them coming off the bench at the moment.    Roll is a solid citizen and Lee showed that he can be a bonafide star down the line.   Which brings me to my greatest concern and why I think we should go bigger.

Obviously our great guard play had enabled us to make our recent return to college hoops elite.    But what seems to be overlooked is the importance centers have played in our success.    Our first run was fueled by a Ryan Hollins senior season epiphany half way through the year.   Lorenzo Mata, despite my personal reservations early in his career, manned the middle well enough as a legitimate center to allow another run.  Then Kevin Love's greatness goes without saying.   But what gets missed in having a center that can get the job done was how it allowed the Luc to be what he needed to be for the squad.    Sure he was defensively good enough to guard opposing centers in a pinch, but his effectiveness logging the majority of his minutes there would have diminished his greatness.    Last season we were forced to make due with a terrific Aboya elevating his game immensely for his senior season.   Unfortunately he became our defacto center and the end result against Villanova left us all knowing despite his incredible season he is not a center.  

We are now in a predicament where Reeves Nelson appears to be a special type of player.    But watching him battle players like Aldrich and Varnado as well as other centers to come for the majority of his minutes will diminish what his real value will be if we can get a real center in there to free him up on the front line.    Sure we can get away with this playing opponents without big men or those that play 3 guards or go small, but to take it to the next level it behooves the bruins to find a real center who can at minimum 'get in the way'.  That is to say block some shots, take up space, rebound a little, keep balls alive, force opposing centers to work hard, etc.. Unfortunately that leaves us with Morgan.  Morgan shows the size and strength at times that he in fact can man the middle well enough, then the next minute he tries to finish a play in the most impotent of fashion.  I am sure it must be painful for Howland in practice.    And that brings me back to Mata and Hollins and even Fey who had a trial so to speak.    He forced them all on me.   I remember thinking will Fey once in a while can make a shot, Hollins once in a while got after it to block a shot or grab a rebound and Mata I am not sure what he is doing, but he did get in the way.   At times I thought we have better players than this and it was too much, but in the end it was the right thing to do.   Last season due probably to higher expectations than in the past he went away from his own system in a sense by not giving Morgan the minutes to improve and therefore making his sophomore season our painful learning season.    Now I realize we have Josh Smith coming in next season, but does anyone really believe he will be able to play that hedge well enough as a freshman to see the court in a meaningful way much next season?    I really and truly believe CBH knows he needs to wipe that grin off Morgan's face and ride him or any other big man who wants the minutes as far as they can help take our program.   If only for Reeves Nelson we must get minutes from any center necessary.   At minimum Smith could use a real sparring partner as a freshman.

I would assume in a practice situation Morgan must be guarding JK and ND who are probably money shooting from the perimeter in practice and exposing his worst flaws.   That however is not what his real game experience nor his critical importance to our long term health is about.    The only real experience a kid like that will get is in the game much to our dismay.   Learning what is like to take his licks and what he really needs to do to give it back.   Punish him with minutes until he either gets a clue or transfers out.    "Kid this is who we need you to be now show up or move on."   In my opinion we worried too much about making JK an interior player that he is not.  He does not have the legs to hold his spot or leap in there no matter how much strength he added.    In the end I think that was his downfall.   He is a shell of a basketball player that now unfortunately may have his career ended.   Now we have a wiry kid like Lane.   I cringe when I heard the comparison to JK and not because of Keefe's shortcomings, but because I am worried we will try to make him something he is not.   I am not sure how many people have played enough on the interior to know it is tough to battle in there and still be a good shooter.   It is as mentally tedious as it is physically.   When I hear Keefe hits 20 straight jumpers in warmups it did not surprise me in the least.    This is another reason why getting that center and pushing them as far as they can go will allow your other basketball players to flourish.   

Lastly I would love to see Stover get some minutes somehow especially if Keefe is now done for the season and he is not going to redshirt.   If he as at least a shot blocker than that is something of merit that we could use and develop.

Sorry for the rambling.  I am just trying to keep hope alive in my mind.  And here is a minutes breakdown from recent seasons...

stats to look through for hollins, mata and even fey if you desire.
2005
2006
2007

Morgan did not log enough to get on the breakdown last season.. and has logged a lower percentage and less effective in terms of rebounding, but more effective blocking shots in a tiny sampling thus far this season through the 1st 8 games.
2009
2010

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Not only do I think Smith will play

I’m confident that he will start. He might not be KL, but we need his offense and rebounding. If you remember Love struggled defensively throughout much of the year, and CBH was quick to pull him for a more experienced defender like Aboya when the game got tight, especially early in the season. I think we will see the same with JS2. My only real concern is his stamina, but I think he is too talented to keep off the court.

by Sideout11 on Dec 15, 2009 11:09 PM PST reply actions  

I am hoping

yes I do remember Love not getting huge minutes early and coming out. But where is Howland’s bar set for offensive effectiveness to be a liability on that hedge up top? Love was a supreme basketball talent, but I suspect with a player like Smith we will find out.

by Penny2i on Dec 15, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes we will

and frankly it will all come down to Smith’s willingness to work hard to learn Howland’s defense. If he shows continued improvement on the hedge to go along with the offensive skill, I don’t think Howland will punish him for not being great at it.

by Sideout11 on Dec 16, 2009 1:22 AM PST reply actions  

Oops

meant to be a reply to Penny’s comment above

by Sideout11 on Dec 16, 2009 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Given what we have in Morgan, I think Smith is going to be in … from the first game (unless Morgan improves dramatically … and unfortunately right now he looks more like Fey than Hollins).

by Nestor on Dec 16, 2009 5:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Hollins looked more like Fey than Hollins

until that magic moment when he figured it out.

No one expected that to happen, and it may not happen again go any other player.

But, hope springs eternal.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 16, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Penny I agree with much of your post

We have to remember than neither PAA or LMR were stellar in their early minutes. PAA could not hold onto the ball. And, LMR, though he always played with heart and gave a full effort, took a while to improve his skill set.

That should be no surprise. As some posters have said, it takes a bit longer for big guys to develop all their talents.

I, too, would like to see Bobo get more minutes if for no other reason the one you have given — we might be better if the other big guys were playing in their natural positions.

I disagree in one area: I loved JS’s smile as he played the game; the pure joy of it was refreshing. If Bobo is smiling, so be it. I’d focus more on what he does with the ball — Throw it down big man, throw it down.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

Glad to see you mentioned Stover, especially considering the injury to Keefe.

I realize that he is not as polished as we would like to warrant significant minutes but at least get him some experience. Afterall, if he does not score it is not a detremint to the team. Currently, nobody in the 5 spot provides an offensive spark. At the very least he can use his athletic ability to block shots, which is what he was apparently known for.

By committing to Morgan and Stover at the 5 spot, Nelson will assume a more appropriate role.

by misfit15 on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think redshirting Stover

is an attempt to give us depth down the line.

Have you seen him in person? He will quite simply get broken in half in the Pac-10. I think he might be skinnier than me. He needs to put on some serious weight before he can play.

by inhowlandwetrust on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

6'10, 210 lbs

Apparently both Hollins and Stover had/have the same build, while at UCLA. Hollins is up to 230 lbs now. In either case, Hollins played. This was probably because of his athletic ability and also because Fey was terrible all around.

I guess all I am saying is that it cannot get any worse from the 5 spot, can it? So why not experiment a little and get the kid some exposure. Who know’s he might suprise us. To me it is worth a shot.

by misfit15 on Dec 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It's up to JMM

Some of us can remember the reps George Zidek put in in an empty Pauley to master the role that was assigned him. I honestly believe JMM has a great deal more upside potential and am hoping he is making every effort to understand his role and master it.

by bru79 on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

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