Early Defensive Reflections On 2009 Regular Season
Shifting attention back to football, I want to pick up our discussion from the team's performance in the last game. We talked about offense earlier in the week, let's focus a little on our defense. I went ahead and looked up the numbers of our defense from 2009 season and compared it numbers from 2008 when Dewayne Walker was in charge. Here is how they shape up:
Got the numbers from NCAA's website (2009 and 2008).
When you look at those numbers keep few factors in mind:
- We faced an Oregon team that came into Rose Bowl without Masoli (Ugh).
- The game against Stanford our defense at least on scoreboard looked all right, but if you delve into boxscore a bit and watched the game, you will remember Stanford dominated the time of possession the entire game. Our defense got thoroughly manhandled in the first half and they looked a little better in the second due to a combination of Stanford letting off the gas pedal a bit and also due to some adjustments on our part
- On the positive side this year the defense didn't have annual Dewayne Walker special meltdowns like the 0-59 disaster we had in Provo.
Still looking at those numbers, it appears Chuck Bullough despite all the criticisms (and I believe many of them are on point) did a servicable job of replacing Dewayne Walker. He can actually make credible arguments that his defense actually performed better under him this year than it did under Walker the previous year. Given those numbers, I would have to think he will come back for next season, when he will truly have to prove his coaching mettle without veterans such as ATV, Price, Jerzy, and Reggie Carter. That said, despite the solid performance against Southern Cal, I have some lingering concerns about our defense. More after the jump.
The performance against Southern Cal to me was essentially a replay of the performance against Oregon State. Remember we actually played pretty solid defense against an explosive Beavers offense up in Corvallis. Except for the TD we gave up in Wild-Beaver formation (which I don't understand why we weren't prepared for), our D had the Rodgers brothers bottled up for most of the day. It just all fell apart in that last drive. Yes, if ATV had executed that pick-6, the season would turn out to be even better. However, what happened to our defense after that dropped interception is disconcerting to me.
Same thing happened to our defense during that last TD drive (of course I am not referring to the cheap shot) Trojans put together a 9 play drive, when they sliced and diced right through our secondary in 4:11 long minutes, marching 73 yards for the game clinching TD. What was the common theme here which we saw in the Oregon State (and few other games this season)? It was the cushion our DBs were giving to opponent WRs. Matt Barkley had no problem completing those short, medium range passes, carving up our secondary. It's the same thing Sean Canfield did to our guys in that last drive. We saw in horror Kevin Riley beating ATV number of times at the Rose Bowl, when he was giving up 8-9 yard cushion to Cal receivers.
I didn't get what Bullough was thinking in all those instances. Particularly against the Trojans and Beavers, when our defense had solid outing through most of the game, bringing in pressure from different directions, and generally stuffing the run. I didn't understand the urge to play vanilla, conservative defensive schemes with games on the line, going away from strategy that had been working all day. I am assuming that's a question Bullough and our coaches including CRN have been reflecting on during these past few days.
Watching our defense this season, I also got the sense that Bullough's scheme as heavily crticized as they were by us and others throughout the season, could turn out to be more effective if he gets few more explosive athletes in his disposal in next couple of years, and get the current corp of underclassmen to physically develop in next two years. Sheldon Price had a rough first year (although he showed some signs of improvement). He needs to get stronger so he can provide better run support. Hopefully we will get a healthy year out of Aaron Hester next season. I think our secondary under Moore and Dye's leadership is going to be all right.
The real question right now is at our front-7. Coaches are going to count on Datone Jones to anchor a line that will deeply miss the presence of Price and Jerzy. Joining Jones will be David Carter, Luta Tepa, and Keenan Graham. Those who have been going to practices this year are very high on Graham. Coaches are also hitting the recruiting trail hard to pick up few more DLs as observers are speculating Bruins can bring in as many as 8 DLs in this LBs. As for LB, anxious to see what kids like Isiah Bowens and Todd Golper can bring to the table next year. In terms of experience, I think it will be players like Westgate and Sloane joining Ayers in the front-7, but no doubt the recruits from this past two years are going to get their shots.
My main wish next year though is for Bullough to grow some more confidence so that he has the courage to try out different things in different games. I was encoraged towards the end of the season when the tried different looks with Akeem Ayers in Washington and Arizona State games, discovering how effective he can be as a hybrid DE/LB. He needs to experiment like that a little more, doing his best to make sure we get the best possible combination of force/athleticism on the field.
Anyway, we will have more to discuss on this topic in both short and long term here on BN after we figure out our bowl prospects. If we have a bowl game that will give us an opportunity to discuss it in the context of preparation for next opponent. If not then focus will shift towards recruiting. I really hope we get to see these guys one more time on the field this year though. I get the sense that our defense is itching to get out there for one more game this season to close it out on even better note.
GO BRUINS.
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i think one thing to keep in mind as well
Is we didn’t turn the ball over nearly as much this year as we did last year. And the offense improved as well. A lot of this has an influence on the defensive stats. The problem is its impossible to quantify, but something to keep in mind…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
One question
Who’s defense/coordinator would you rather have in the Pac-10? You could make an argument for SUC (who has WAY more talent), or maybe Oregon. But honestly, considering the talent we have I thought our defensive schemes were pretty decent this year. I thought Bullough made good adjustments throughout games (except Cal) and the year. And I think he will get better.
One stat I’d like to see…an adjusted points yielded per defensive possession that takes into account field position. Maybe yards yielded per possession? I think that would be more telling.
Allow-a=lot-ti doing to Oregon
what he did to us. OSU is well on their way to putting up over 40 on his sorry butt.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 3, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I think Bullough's stats are a little misleading
In two very big games (in terms of importance) he allowed the opposing team to march down the field at the end of the 4th quarter to either tie the game (OSU) or put the game out of reach (USC). In both cases, the defense was not aggressive.
Oregon game was interesting. They were playing without Masoli and you will notice that once they got a 14 point lead in the second half, they just ran the ball knowing we couldn’t score enough to keep up. Smart way to play it, but I don’t think it paints an accurate picture.
To his defense, our offense was pretty poor, and its hard to keep your defense motivated and playing hard when the offense isn’t good, and I do think the defense was motivated and played hard this year.
I give him a solid B this year. But I think next year will be the real evaluation, as you get further away from the previous DC. Even Steve Lavin almost went to the final four with Jim Harrick coached players…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 3, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
According to Lavin
He did take his team to the Final Four since Minnesota was penalized for their tutor scandal and had their games removed from the record.
Alliotti?
I will never forget how he let Miami score enough to beat us when we were 17 pts ahead in the game that cost us the BCS title game vs TENN. IN 15 min! He is a dope.
Bullough
Had a fine first year as Coordinator. If Price doesn’t come back there will be some serious remodeling to do in the front seven. Our secondary will be in great shape with Moore, Hester and Price. All these growing pains for Sheldon will pay off next year if he can get 10-15 lbs this year With any luck, the improved offense will give them a cushion to play with from time to time and allow Bullough to be more creative.
I think our D-line will be better than people think
Damien Holmes and David Carter did a serviceable job this past year in backup roles. Reggie Stokes will be back and so will Datone Jones. Iuta Tepa and Keenan Graham should be able to step in as a RS freshmen. We also have a few tackles and ends coming in this next year’s class, but I would love to lock up Uko (he is leaning towards SUC). Obviously, you cannot replace BP, but we will be better than advertised.
The problem I have with the job bullough turned in is...
We had such high hopes for this group. It wasn’t supposed to be comparable to last year’s D. It was supposed to blow the socks off of last year’s D. my problem is that we rarely pressed the issue. We took what offenses gave us. Bend but don’t break. IMO, we had some decent horses this year, decent enough to compete for tops in the nation, but we never went for it. the fact that Price a such a freakin beast, and Ayers is so athletic, and Rahim is such a ball hawk, and the Bosworth boys work so hard, and Reggie was so…Reggie, that’s why we did as well as we did this year. I really don’t know how much of that credit belongs in Bullough’s lap. Hopefully he grows over the off season and comes back with some aggression.
Your expectations are kind out of whack
and it sounds like you don’t really have a good handle on the talent level on our team. You write:
IMO, we had some decent horses this year, decent enough to compete for tops in the nation, but we never went for it. the fact that Price a such a freakin beast, and Ayers is so athletic, and Rahim is such a ball hawk, and the Bosworth boys work so hard, and Reggie was so…Reggie, that’s why we did as well as we did this year.
Let’s put aside Price. Ayers is athletic but it was clear early in the season he had lot to learn in terms of playing in control. As for Bosworths, they might work hard, but they were prime examples of talent level going down under Dorrell. I always appreciated the work they put in at UCLA. However, if we had a great coaching staff that was recruiting at UCLA’s level, they wouldn’t be starting in this team.
As for Reggie, why are you over looking the key fact, that he played hurt for more than half the season. Given your previous comments on our discussion on offense, it sounds like you don’t have a grasp on the personnel of our team. Just because you have wild expectations around our defense, doesn’t mean they are based on reality.
I do have high expectations
but definitely not unreal. It upsets me when I see potential being wasted. I think you took my statements to mean that we have 11 All-Americans starting on defense. Not hardly. After 2 games, we realized that Ayers couldn’t cover worth a damn but was athletic and should be blitzing on almost every down. Why did it take Bullough so long? Why are our corners, including ATV giving such cushion to EVERY WR they face? The Bosworths. Not the most talented in the world, but hard workers nonetheless. But when you as a D-coord. send only 4, 1 of them being Bosworth, an undersized End, you are setting him up for failure. The scheme or lack thereof had everything to do with us not excelling at the level that we should. And the tackling (esp. early in the season) was horrid and is a direct reflection of the emphasis shown on the basics during spring and summer ball by the D coord.
With a few changes that you would see most other D coords make, we would have been a lot better. Saying national leader was saying that, not saying we would actually be #1. #2 maybe! Just kidding.
I think we probably agree more than disagree here
I definitely think you and other have legit points about Bullough needing to diversify his scheme a bit or at least throw a different look out there than in his base defense early on. Perhaps the Tennessee game gave him a little too much confidence than warranted?
If he changed up his scheme a bit to adapt to the talent he had on his team, there is a possibility we could have seen even better results. Whether that would translate into a top-10/15 defense in the nation? I am not sure. But certainly we could have done better. As I said, we probably agree more here after reading your response.
the reason we didn't blitz that much
was because of Price…he was a one man wrecking crew of pressue, so we didn’t need to blitz as much (at least early in games). I felt that Bullough’s strategy in the first half was to feel out the other offense and figure out what they were trying to do. Our base defense is designed to contain and prevent the big play (ie bend not break), which is fine for a bit. My biggest problem is that we took a little too long to adjust to the other team’s gameplan (see Cal, Arizona). Hopefully that will change next year because we won’t be able to afford giving away full quarters to the other team.
yes
It’s why our tackles for loss are very high but our sacks are very low.
Not sold on Bullough
Maybe he was directed by CRN to play conservatively on defense so the offense is not in a position to play from behind. I have no clue. My concern with Bullough is 1) the defense continued to come out soft in games and critical moments, 2) poor fundamentals (tackling, overpursuit, etc.), 3) lack of creativity/aggressiveness and 4) poor game planning/scouting (Stanford scouting BP’s breaks, inability to stop the Wildcat, etc). BN loves numbers but as you’ve pointed out, I don’t think it tells the whole story.
I don’t think the talent argument works for Bullough. IMO, we had enough talent AND we had plenty of experience. Our defense consisted of 5 SR’s, a JR “Monster”, 4 Soph’s (Moore who started last year) and a True FR. Our defense had vulnerabilities at certain positions but coming into the season, we had a very favorable situation on D.
Besides the soft coverage, what concened me was our failure to consistently pressure the QB even with BP commanding a double. Next season, we’ll be younger WITH less experience and a glaring hole at DT.
I’m harsher on the D considering it was our strength. I hope next season Bullough shows us that he was the right man for the job.
As I said, I think the crticisms are warranted ...
… specifically when it comes to kind of scheme(s) Bullough used this year. However, at the same time I think we might have over-estimated our talent on defense a bit. While we have “experience” on the frontline, not sure the talent level except for studs such as Price, Carter, Ayers (ok I will give Datone) was really where UCLA level talent should have been.
Not Easy to Judge Bullough
after only one year. Brian Price made the Bruins a better defense than maybe what the talent level shows. His loss will create a tremendous hole next season.
As noted above, the improvement of the offense, especially in regards to turnovers, really made a difference this season. The defense was better because for most of the games it did not have to be on the field the whole game
I too think the Bruins were to conservative on defense, but the same could be said of the offense so maybe the philosophy there came from CRN rather than Bullough. Either way, Bullough will really have to earn his stripes in 2010 as the Bruins will be inexperienced in the front seven.
richramus
Next year we should be able to WIN more games
Rather than this year where we just PREVENTED losses. I hope that makes sense. This is assuming our offense improves, of course.
in defense we trust
i have the impression crn put a lot of faith in the defense to keep games close. thinking the tenn game was his blueprint for sucess.
if we just consider pac-10 games … the defense allowed 24ppg and the pac 10 scoring avg is 27ppg. in 6 of 9 games ucla held opponents below their scoring avg. if we don’t count the trojies cheap score to end the game we held 7 out 9 teams below their avg. uw scored 1 point higher than their pac-10 avg … we could make an argument for 8 out of 9 game. the only abberation was the cal game … no comment.
i’m not a stats guy but i think our defense did a pretty good job. i’m not a big fan of bullough but considering crn put the weight of the team on his defense and fg kicker i would give the dc a grade of b.
sucessful teams in the pac-10 score points and play solid defense. the top 3 teams in the conference averaged 38ppg … we scored 20ppg. the pac-10 has some of the most dynamic offenses in the country!
would i like to see more blitzes to pressure the qb … most definetly. do i think playing sheldon price severly hampered the defense … no doubt. i’m still waiting for price to make a tackle using his shoulder pads instead of pushing ballcarriers out bounds.
i know this post is about the defense but when we start scoring points … bullough will start looking a lot better.
Our defense
is going to be a shadow of this year’s D in 2010. We lose 3 of 4 starters at the Dline, 2/3 at Linebacker, and fortunately only 1 in the secondary. I really worry about that front 7. If Bullough does well with next year’s front 7, I’ll be REALLY impressed. This year was so-so. I think he could have done more with the talent he had there. I really think we should have been the PAC-10s top D with the talent/experience we had.
In terms of who was on the field (rather than scheming), I am really surprised Sheldon Price played as much as he did. He might be fast, but he wasn’t physically ready for run support. If he wasn’t ready for run support than you’d expect to see him not getting beat deep, but that was happening frequently as well. I hope he works hard in the off season so he can benefit more from all the experience he got this year. I wish could have seen more of Viney and Abbot, who from what I could see did a better job overall than Price when they were in.
Cal game was a meltdown
Really no other way to put it. That was a team who was held to 3 points in each of their previous two games, and we came out with our legs in the air.
I think the numbers are misleading. You always have to consider competition, especially when evaluating coaching. And the fact is that we didn’t play very well against any offense with a good QB. In fact, we were fortunate enough to play about 5 extremely awful QBs (and an injured Locker whose surrounding offense was pretty bad, but who still outplayed our D). That makes scheming and everything much easier.
SC was our best performance, but then how good have they looked on offense? ASU held them to 14, and they only managed 28 on WSU for crying out loud. Yes, they had talent, but they were playing a very light deck in terms of playcalling.
Didn't find this on the search
but this week’s rivals.com bowl prediction update listed UCLA as a probable for the GMAC Bowl against Central Michigan.
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
Things Bullough nees to do:
I think Chuck showed he has the skills for the job, he just needs to learn how to put it all together. What that means: Bullough is a capable coordinator, evidenced by his ability to adjust to teams and perform better against opposing offenses in the second half compared to the first half. Early in games, excepting of course a team like WSU, our D looked as if they’d never seen a single piece of footage on the opponent. If Bullough can learn to plan BEFORE the game, I think that improves. We saw some of this late in the season, but even against ASU Nance looked like an All Pac-10 RB for about a quarter. The second piece, as others have mentioned, is not going to the soft prevent D late in games and instead continuing to throw opposing offenses off balance.
Other points: I think people overestimate the talent level of our defense, as others have said. Love the blue collar Bosworth brothers. They play hard. They just aren’t that talented. Love Reggie Carter, he’s the heart and soul of the defense and he sells out for the team. At best, though, he is a good middle linebacker, not great. Even Old Man Verner. He is great in run support and plays smart, but he is not an elite talent. Hell, even Brian Price. If he is the elite talent on our D, and if he goes to the draft (why does everyone keep saying he’s gone like it’s a sure thing?) he’s what, a second round pick, at best? This team does not have “elite defense” talent. That talent is starting to come in. it does take a little bit of time to develop.
by Captain Leebeard on Dec 3, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions
Price is an elite talent
If there weren’t so many monsters in this year’s DT class, Price would be #1 or #2 as the best DT coming out in the draft. #1 or #2 at any position is elite in my book
He has a poor family
He has earned the right to do what’s right for his family.
Its one thing if you come from a family that’s set, but if you have a family where you can considerably change their lives for the better, you take it.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 3, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
My main concern with Bullough, aside from slow ajdustments...
… was the sheer number of 10-plus-yard running plays we seemed to allow.
Granted, I do realize the Bos bros and Reggie and Akeem were not exactly top-flight, NFL-ready talent. Reggie has a shot, but I also don’t seem him going higher than 2nd or 3rd round.
However, the fact that we could typically count on TWO hands the number of double-digit-yard runs we allowed is all the more glaring when you realize how many fewer runs our guys could produce on the other side of the ball.
More young talent and continued development of the talent we DO have should improve that, but I sincerely hope Bullough’s schemes develop as well in order to help balance those odds.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Defense
Agree with comments on defense, the lack of offense put a tremendous amount of pressure on the defense. Dont understand playing off in the last 2 drives agains OSU and SC particularly after last great stand against an underrated Tenn team (they lost by 2 points at Ala by missing 3 out of 4 FGs). Think Bullough did good job. Am reeling at your defense of Chow and the offense. You say they chose the power running game against SC because our other schemes were risky. Well SC figured that also and loaded the line of scrim with 9 guys, guaranteeing that strategy could not work. Any competent coach would have adjusted and gone to forcing them out of that defense to give Moline a chance. You say we had many other options, our speed backs, also screens and particularly patterns in front of their safeties. We have good TE who can catch in that area as well as Embree and Austen. Instead they tried it with Rosario, who was doing his Poli-Dixon immitaiton so they went back to running into the teeth of the SC defense. By the way Chow’s offense ranked 99th in the country in scoring even with WSU, and had 8TD completions in 12 games. Dominque Johnson had 6 TD receptions in 10 games. This is a game, what was the worst thing that could have happened in Chow’s fear scenario? I suppose they could have beaten us and then kicked dirt in our face. Guess what.
Well, this is an interesting set of posts,
well set up by Nestor’s research, but inescapably highly speculative. Highly. I’m thinking that our D will be about as effective as this year’s. I know there are a lot of holes to be filled. I also know that many of these players will develop a lot physically during the winter, spring and summer. At least they should. In fact, they have to. Whether Bullough will make major changes in schemes, alignments and tactics I have no idea. I think that is no better than a maybe. But my conclusion about the effectiveness of next year’s defense is based on the fact that I expect the offense to improve a lot, and that will help the defense in many ways.

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