Students: C’MON! Alumni: C’MON!
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NOTE: This was written by muybienbien, a longtime reader and diehard UCLA fan (as you'll notice from this post). Because he's never posted on BN before and just joined, he has to sit out a day before he can post a fanpost. While these thoughts are all his own, I completely agree with every point he makes.
This is my first and could quite possibly be my last fanpost on this site. While everything I say here goes for football too, let’s restrict the focus of this post to men’s basketball. This is also incredibly long, so my apologies in advance. I also know that there are a lot of really great, passionate Bruins on this site, and to you, this post will quite literally be preaching to the choir. These "call-outs" are not directed at you, you are all amazing fans who do all you can.
I’ve been reading BruinsNation for the past three years. There have been some viewpoints that I’ve vehemently disagreed with, and some topics that I’ve fully supported. I certainly have had issues with some perspectives of those on this site, but that is to be expected when such passionate supporters discuss the teams that they cherish so dearly.
But the one aspect that I have ALWAYS respected about this site is the true, utter passion for Bruin athletics that each member of this community carries. People may disagree on the direction of a head coaching search, or which point guard should be playing, but when the whistle blows, everyone is pulling for the Bruins to win (if you’re not, well, then we got problems). This, quite sadly, is the one of the only places where I’ve found a group of Bruins who legitimately cares about their squads.
This is my sixth and final year of attending UCLA. Through my four years as an undergraduate (2004-2008), I have probably attended 90 UCLA basketball games – home, away, neutral, wherever. To say that my friends and I have been passionate Bruin supporters is a bit of an understatement. We camped out for almost every single game (be it USC or Coppin State) from 2005-2008, with Excel spreadsheets planning our hourly shifts. We drove 2,400 miles to Indianapolis for the Final Four. We flew to Tennessee and drove to Atlanta for another Final Four. And we drove another 1,700 miles to San Antonio for yes, a THIRD Final Four. So yeah, we were definitely lucky to have the opportunity to go to three Final Fours. I fully understand that. But we were also dedicated enough to be camping out for a Coppin State game 3 hours after upsetting USC in the glorious 13-9. And that is the part that I want to focus on.
Unfortunately, sadly, I graduated from college. I am fortunate enough to be able to continue to attend UCLA for graduate school (MS in electrical engineering) while I work in Redondo Beach. While I’ve still been able to attend most games, it’s safe to say that my campout days are officially over. I don’t think it flies to show up to work with sweats, a hoodie, and gloves from sleeping in a tent for 6 hours. Time to let the undergraduates have their fun, has been my mentality.
Today, I went to the Kansas game. We showed up 45 minutes before game time, expecting to be in the upper section. Nope, you, lucky sirs, get to sit down into the lower section. Really? We have the number one team and I don’t need to camp out or wake up at 6:00 AM for a priority pass. That’s kind of weak.
But I’ll trade quantity for quality anytime. And while the energy certainly was there at times (or maybe it was the loud, proud, and boisterous KU section, of which I’m admittedly envious), and I heard Pauley louder than it had been in a long time, it wasn’t there all the time. The energy needs to be there in the student section. I’m sure there was energy in the middle of the student section, where the people have camped out the longest. But the ends of the sections were pretty subdued. As in, some yelling and minimal jumping. And when we got down? It was pretty damn quiet. These are the times that matter most! The squad needs a lift, some energy to get them back on track, and everyone is quiet. When my buddy yells at the students to get up and make some noise, we shouldn’t see twelve sets of eyes turn around and look at us like we have leprosy.
You see, over my six years in LA, I’ve come to realize a lot about UCLA fans and the apathetic sports fandom of LA in general. When the teams are playing well, fans are happy, they show up, and everyone is suddenly a huge supporter. But here’s the rub: you’re a Bruin during bad times too. We’re so lucky that these times are few and far between, but they still happen. These are the times that make the special victorious moments so much more rewarding. I hail from the Bay Area, where every team (save the Sharks) is terrible at the moment. But we all still love our teams. Unfailingly. We can look back and say "Wow, I endured 13 years of diehard support to watch the Golden State Warriors make the playoffs ONCE." How else do you explain the fact that one of the most poorly run organizations in all of sports, who has made one playoff appearance since I was in 2nd grade (16 years ago), still routinely sells out games.
Bottom line: if you stick with the team, they will eventually make you happy.
Students, I understand that it’s finals week. Personally, I went to the UCLA Sweet 16 game against Pittsburgh in 2007 in San Jose, then drove down five hours AFTER the game (ended at 10 PM) to take a final at 8 AM the next morning. I caught a solid four hours of sleep that night for an analog circuits final (and somehow pulled off the A). So anything IS possible. But I’m not a total whack job -- finals are big, and I will not belittle their importance. Let’s be realistic here -- no one’s going to give you a job for being a big Bruin fan; they will give you a job for having good grades. I’m just going to say that you pick what is most important to you. One option does not necessarily need to preclude the other, you just have to plan and make careful decisions.
The thing is, I don’t remember a whole lot about analog circuits. I don’t deal with them anymore. I DO remember Arron Afflalo hitting a corner three against Kansas in an Elite Eight game just before halftime, just like I remember almost jumping off the second deck of the Oakland Coliseum while celebrating an improbable Luc Richard Mbah a Moute go-ahead layup and steal to secure the unbelievable UCLA victory over Gonzaga. I will never forget that moment of my life, and that is what makes sports great.
We all love sports for different reasons. But one thing I think everyone loves is the opportunity to see the unforeseen. If we had upset Kansas today, and you hadn’t been there but watched the whole thing on TV while studying, wouldn’t you have wished you’d been there?
When else in your life are you going to have an opportunity like this? Let me tell you, as a fresh graduate working the grind and going to graduate school on the side, the real world isn’t all that much fun. You’re not going to be able to get away with camping out in 60 degree weather, playing video games, eating pizza, and hanging with your friends.
Okay great, so hopefully you’re slightly more convinced (or maybe you just hate me) that it is indeed worth it to attend and expend every ounce of your being into cheering for UCLA. But I like to solve problems, and that doesn’t solve the overall problem – the apathy of those around you. What you can do to change this?
The great thing about sports watching sports live is the power of the crowd. No, not the crowd that is more concerned with doing the wave than watching the 3rd and 2 with 8 minutes to play in a 3 point game. It’s the crowd that buzzes and stirs, that tries to pull up its team during times of struggles or feeds its frenzy it’s on a run. Anyone who has played any type of sport can attest to this. Players draw energy from its crowd’s intensity. For a team predicated on defensive effort and hustle, as ours has for the past six years, energy and intensity are vital to our success. Don’t you miss the hard double team from Lorenzo Mata-Real or the unbelievably hedging from Alfred Aboya 25 feet away from the hoop? Well get loud, and maybe even Jerime Anderson can magically gain a modicum of lateral quickness! Okay, I realize that’s pushing it.
Do you know what my most memorable from 13-9 is? Not the McPick, or Pat "The Cowan" Gazelle galloping through the USC secondary. It came with six minutes left during a timeout. The whole crowd got hyped, with the thought of "Hey, maybe we can really do this!" Each team left its sideline and met at midfield, jawing, whooping, and hollering. There was a sense of magical energy in the air that I’d never (and haven’t since) experienced at the Rose Bowl. It was the type of moment that made you realize how special sports can be.
So yell, scream, jump up and down, and get loud. Not just at the start, not just when we’re on a run, but ALL game. Every possession matters, whether there is 10:30 left in the first half or 2:15 left in the second half, and whether we’re on a 7-0 run or they’re on a 7-0 run. The team can always use your help.
And Alumni! I haven’t been one for long, so I’m not going to make any rash judgments here, but I think we can improve too. Would it kill you to wear blue to the game? When UCLA gave out free UCLA t-shirts to the crowd a few years ago, I’d estimate 60% of the alumni completely disregarded their nicely color coordinated shirts. Can’t mess up the precious sweater-dress shirt combo I guess. And noise. Please. Noise is good (especially when we’re on defense). It doesn’t have to be the 35 seconds of yelling and jumping. It can just be clapping and encouraging our boys. And it’s okay to stretch those legs every once in a while. Stand up during those important situations. If you’re going to stretch during the timeout and halftime anyway, well you can get the blood flowing into the legs during the game too.
I understand that not everyone’s cut out to be hardcore all the time. That’s totally fine – do what you’ve gotta do. Enjoy the game in the way you please. Sports are for fun and entertainment, so treat your fandom with what makes you happy. They should not define your life (this has arguably been a recent revelation for me). But being a passionate fan can also be highly rewarding, and create some beautiful memories. I would not trade my UCLA sporting experience for any other – they truly are some of the most poignant highlights of my college days.
I apologize for this rant. Lay it on me if I’m screwing up here too, I am all for intelligent discourse. I also don’t know if I’m violating some form of etiquette by calling out everyone without saying anything before. I will now go study for MY finals before work tomorrow. Whether you agree or not, as always – GO BRUINS!!!
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Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 PM PST reply actions
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Absolutely great stuff, it got me pumped. Unfortunately like you said though, preaching to the choir.
Keep it up though muybien, because this was awesome.
Beautiful, but one problem I have to point out...
The memory of Afflalo hitting the corner three to beat the buzzer before halftime against Kansas in San Jose is a faulty one… that was Shipp!
It just makes me laugh a lot because I was at the game and have since acquired a DVD of the game and the commentator made the exact same mistake (actually a couple of times in the game) and I was watching it (for the millionth time) earlier this week to get some good KU-stomping mojo going…
Great first post!
I was at the Elite 8 game in San Jose (my home) against Kansas and it was Shipp who hit the 3 before the half. AA did go off hitting several 3s in the second half though. The best part about that game was watching our D just lock down Kansas in the second half and create numerous turnovers (leading to easy baskets, what a concept). I also remember some of us chanting to AA, 1 more year, after the game. Great memories!
I remember yelling and screaming most of the game trying to get the UCLA fans pumped up. Some people looked at me a bit weird, but it did seem work in getting many of our fans involved in the game. Often, the energy of even one person can help get more fans involved in the game – so I encourage everyone to “help” energize the crowd the best you can when attending any Bruin game.
Let’s hope the team can maintain and improve upon the intensity that it showed today against Kansas for the rest of the season. If this happens, we will be fine. After watching TH for the first time today, I can picture him playing the 2 (shooting guard) eventually. If we don’t get a “ready to play” point guard next year, imagine ML at the point and TH as the off-guard. We would have a team with incredible size and athleticism at every position.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The apathy at UCLA is mind-blowing and extremely frustrating. Just this quarter, the number of moments I’ve had with other UCLA fans is nearly infuriating. I’ve had to explain to people why they should go to UCLA basketball games. Today, I finished up with my obligations at 330pm and then ran down to see if I could get into the UCLA-Kansas basketball game. Of course, I get in, and sit in the upper student section. It was silent up there, except, of course, for the Kansas fans. I think I was one of 3-4 people who even knew any of the cheers. And nobody stands, obviously.
Arizona State is another example. I’m running around, trying to find a ride to the game, and nearly everyone says they aren’t going. You aren’t going? Do you even follow sports here? That was possibly the most important game of the season, for various reasons. I can understand not making it out to Washington, but not making the game on which our entire post-season hopes rest? A game with implications beyond this season? Neuheisel is trying to get you to stay optimistic, to stay committed, and ASU is where you jump off?
“No, not the crowd that is more concerned with doing the wave than watching […] the game.” I remember this happening at the Rose Bowl. Afterward, THIS was what people remembered about the game. Remember when everyone did the wave? That was awesome! People didn’t understand why I would be annoyed with this.
Constantly having to explain to people why they should care about whatever sport is frustrating. Constantly having to tell people who OUR players are because they can’t be bothered to know who anybody is on the team is frustrating. Constantly having to get everyone around us to make noise, as if it were a nuisance to encourage our own team, is frustrating.
On the plus side, when the cool stuff does happen, those of us who make the effort will get the reward, unlike the people who leave on the half-time bus from the Rose Bowl or in the last minutes of a basketball game. Part of being a die hard is knowing it will pay off. Great post, muybienbien.
by Captain Leebeard on Dec 7, 2009 5:11 AM PST reply actions
Question for you guys
Is there anything that we can do to influence the Daily Bruin? I am assuming students still get lot of their info. from that source (well we did back in our day). Yet their coverage of Bruin sports is just pitiful (as we have seen on how they have covered the football team this year and basketball team in recent years).
I’d think Daily Bruin sports section would be the place where students who are most passionate about UCLA sports would be covering the teams. Instead the coverage we get is often either ignorant or totally cynical.
Other than e-mailing them with feedback
Probably we can contribute to the Viewpoint section. I believe they accept essays from students (I don’t know about alumni). I think this post needs to make it to the DB for the students to see.
Oh and this piece is lightyears better
than student submitted essays about how students need to be reasonable with Twilight/vampiremania. I’m quite baffled by what they choose to run in the paper.
They accept alumni submissions
Although viewpoint rarely publishes sports related submissions. I remember ripping one of the sports columnists last year for an article that basically trashed Neuheisel before he had even coached a game, and what I got in response was basically a load of crap about how they are an independent newspaper and owe nothing to the university. Pressuring them would be a moot point, simply because most of the wirters and editors are so full of themselves
Considering the state of traditional media
That’s surprising to hear that these guys are full of themselves. What are they so proud of? Publishing columns about Neuheisel’s team “falling apart”?
I guess it would be beneath their "journalistic integrity"
to write from the angle that the programs would benefit from student support, especially during tough times
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
66, Fox?? Are you listening?
Maybe some of our distinguished alumni, coupled with the strength of their resumes, need to drop a line to the Daily Bruin about the value of the complete student experience. Come to think of it, those posts have already been written here several times. Maybe they need to be forwarded once more.
And is it true that The Bruin is completely independent. Do they really owe the University nothing? Do they get no funding, no office space, no stipends, no education from the University?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
"I apologize for this rant"
Stop right there. Muybienbien, you have NOTHING to apologize for.
It is those who can’t match your passion who must apologize to you.
Would that more Bruins, be it student, alum, or a fan, were like this.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
I basically agree. I will add a little perspective.
When the teams are playing well, fans are happy, they show up, and everyone is suddenly a huge supporter. But here’s the rub: you’re a Bruin during bad times too. We’re so lucky that these times are few and far between, but they still happen. These are the times that make the special victorious moments so much more rewarding.
As a student, I was a RABID fan.
In my freshman year, Roy Hamilton ran the point.
Brad Holland dropped BOMBS before 3 pointers became the rule.
David Greenwood was the star. Awsome.
At THAT time, I also wondered about the “Alumni Section”.
Well, all I can say is… over time, perspectives and priorities change.
Schlepping to Westwood will only happen when the team is GOOD and ENTERTAINING.
I, like other alums, continue to bleed blue and gold.
Our support doesn’t wane.
We support financially. We almost ALWAYS catch games on the radio, if not TV.
We STILL read FIRST the Sports Page, and constantly check up on our program.
But, to tell you the truth… if you’re MARRIED… your spouse probably doesn’t share equally with your love of Bruin Sports – so little motivation to schlep to the campus.
If you’re OLDER THAN COLLEGE, and not married, the young hoties at school remind
you of your CURRENT age. All the players are YOUNGER than my oldest child.
What else can I say? It’s like that – and that’s the way it is, HUUUH!
(Rap came into vogue while I was a UCLA student) lol
a thought about tickets...
I want to build on a comment in the FAIL thread by bruinponcho, but am putting it here as this is a more current thread. I fully agree with everyone saying the crappy attendance is unacceptable, both for students and alums. To further the impression of emptiness, TV cameras show the side with the lazy alums who won’t get off their asses (yes, I’m an alum) rather than the huge contrast of the Den. I propose trading sides so that the alums are on the north side, under the cameras and thus less visible, and the Den is on the south so they are consistently seen. This could at least be implemented when the refreshed Pauley opens after our year of being homeless.
formerly AZBruin
by KSBruin on Dec 7, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%
THIS. It kills me to watch a game on TV (sorry, I can’t get to all the games that I want) and see the Den bouncing up and down…at the bottom of the screen.
But as someone whose student years were all spent with Lavin as coach, I think the student section is now better than it was back then. There was no effort to get everyone wearing blue, it seemed more subdued, etc. There’s obviously room for improvement, but it’s not like there was some golden age just a few years ago. Let’s work on the future now.
by Westwood Wizard on Dec 7, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I had no idea the Den was a concept started up right before I got to campus
For me, that’s the way it has always been. I, for one, appreciate their efforts to organize the students and channel that energy in a positive direction.
Yeah.
There was no official Den when I graduated in ‘91. I’m not sure when it got organized like it is now, but I am glad they are there doing their part.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
The Den organized in the spring/summer of 2003
Came about as an evolution of the Sports Marketing Association, iirc. Literally right before T got onto campus.
formerly bruinhoo
Pauley renovation
From my understanding, they will be switching the student section to the other side after the renovation. They will also be moving the bench to the new alumni side (old student side). I am not completely sure about the cameras, but i think they will stay on the same physical side. That way, our TV look will be more like Cameron Indoor at Duke.
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Pac-10 rule
that student sections aren’t allowed behind the team benches, and the tv cameras tend to want to face the bench side so they can capture the action over there. The only exception I can think of is Duke, but then again their student section is the best in the land.
Washington has the student section behind the bench
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
That's also true
but I think I remember one of the announcers saying last year that they were grandfathered in or something and must change the student section once they redesign. Not entirely sure though
The arena was massively renovated in the last 10 years I believe
The place is awesome now. I think maybe it’s allowed because while students are behind the benches, there’s two or three rows of non students in front of them. Just a guess.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm interesting
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
If the student section were behind the bench
it would be unbearable for the visitors.
So what’s the excuse for the alumni sitting there now?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
We had the #1 ranked School in the Country playing in our Arena...
and we couldn’t sell it out?!?…out of the the hundreds of thousands of alums, and millions of people in LA (even if you’re not a fan of either school ~ if you’re a Fan of basketball: why wouldn’t you want to be there??)…and you’re telling me that we couldn’t get 12, 800+ to come watch the current #1 play the #1 of all-time?!?…I know, I know, there’s lots of other things to do in LA…but I guarantee you that most of those who did not attend weren’t doing said “other things”…and as to the “LA fans are fickle: Losing Team = Bad Attendance”: as bad as the Clippers are: they somehow managed to average 15,000/game in 2008…Bottom Line: it was embarrassing to show another Top-5 Program of All-Time how weak our atmosphere is compared to theirs at Allen Fieldhouse.
It would have been another story ...
If it were 6-0 Kansas vs. a 6-0 UCLA. As it was, with a 2-4 UCLA especially given who we’ve lost to, very few expected a competitive game and fewer still found sufficient incentive to get off their butts and make it out to Pauley. Sad but true, I think this is just another example of losing resulting in apathy and winning curing all ills.
What if it were
6-0 and #1 ranked UCLA visiting a struggling 2-4 Kansas team in Manhattan? How many Jayhawks fans show up?
More than Sunday.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
Somehow I doubt that 15K figure...
Considering that Staples has a capacity of around 20K, I’ve been to a few Clipper games and they’ve always been about half full. Maybe they sold 15K seats, but I have a hard time believing they average 3/4 capacity.
For Laker games
Staples has a capacity of 18,997, although it fluctuates a couple hundred here or there for the Clippers, Sparks, Pac-10 Tourney, The suites and premier seats are sold in packages that includes every Staples Center event though so all of those seats that are sold for Laker games are technically sold for Clippers’ games too.
Formerly ryebreadraz
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it's genetic
I now live in Seattle, and I travel to as many games as I can…
When my friends make fun of how apathetic/bandwagon UCLA fans are, I just have to say in response, “I’m not your average Bruin fan…” What else can I say?
Great stuff
I live up in Nor Cal and make it down south to watch at least one game at pauley along with the two games I get to watch at Stanford and Cal. Because of this fantastic post I will try to make it down for atleast two this year. Go Bruins
p.s. I too almost fell off the second deck in Oakland as I was hugging total strangers
I Was There for the Gonzaga game...
and not only did I sweat thru my shirt, my friend & I (Class of ’91) found ourselves hugging total strangers as well (and taking pictures w/ them)…it was truly an amazing moment…and at an emotional level I have never seen before or since in UCLA basketball…
WoodenMania: Good that you are making it down for an extra game this year…as the team’s more in need of support than in recent history…as true Bruins, we should make it a point to support more in tough times…which is why I go to the Coliseum every time we play $uc…as that’s when the team needs our support the most (when it’s in Enemy Territory/Ground Zero)…too many Bruins fail to go to that game, and it makes our program and fan base look really weak…
The Hush Mentality @ Pauley
I’m a season ticket holder (have been for 5 years) w/ decent 300 level tickets and it kills me to see the folks w/ the primo seats at Pauley. Seriously, some of them can barely walk, much less stand up to cheer and yell! Last season I bought 2 tickets in the 300-section at midcourt so that I could take my 3 nephews w/ me. Some bozo told my 9-year-old nephew to sit back in his seat when he was getting excited and yelling at the ref for some lame call against UCLA. I’m not about to get into an argument at a game, so I let it go, but it really bugged me that this UCLA fan was telling another fan to be quiet and sit still. It’s a game for god’s sake, not church! I see so many fans at our home games show zero emotion. I know that you can’t judge a fan by how vocal they are (or are not), but the hush vibe has gotten almost endemic at Pauley.
+1
Same thing happens in football in the lower prime seats…. Very few 65+ alumni bring it when it comes to energy, how to improve that? Your guess is as good as mine.
Especially sucks
because a lot of those fans are big donors…
Sadly, after 20 years of being a Bruin fan, it seems the only thing that will motivate crowds to attend games is winning. No gimmicks work. None.
I could make several comments about the current makeup of the UCLA student population, but I’ll just keep those thoughts to myself.
Anyone going to the Wooden Classic?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Amen
Well said homie. I was there with you and like you, those are the memories of college that I will remember forever.
Not only just the crazy games, but the campouts. Camping out at UCLA and watching the Olympic Sports with some friends and joshing around were some of my most treasured moments.

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