Steve Lavin: The Blagojevich Of College Hoops
Bumped. Shame on the UCLA Athletics Club of Orange County for allowing this con artist who flushed our prorgam into the gutter, to appear at a Bruin basketball related function. Please email Michael Rorabaugh, the contact for this event at mrorabaugh@athletics.ucla.edu to let him know how you feel about this coaching fraud who for seven years destroyed UCLA basketball talking about Coach John Wooden's program. Note please be courteous and professional to Michael while voicing your disapproval.
You are looking at him, the Blagojevich of colleage basketball:
Let's make something clear.
Steve Lavin is not a Bruin.
He will never be part of the UCLA lore (nowithstanding his job of getting cup of coffee for Jim Harrick's basketball staff and posing as a "head coach" during the seven darkest years in college basketball).
What Steve Lavin really is: he is nothing short of a con artist who made millions by posing as a "basketball coach" at the expense of UCLA's incompetent chancellor (incompetent when it comes to understanding the role UCLA athletics play in the greater Bruin Nation) Al Carnesale and a clueless AD in Pete Dalis. And if anyone needs proof they just need to look up the comments from Baron Davis on this worthless poser of a "coach."
There is really need to visit the details of all the record setting humiliating losses and utter failure to develop blue chip recruiting talents he brought in during his firs two years in Westwood by taking advantage of the core talents of Toby Bailey, J.R. Henderson, Kris Johnson, Charles O'Bannon and Cameron Dollar, recruits brought in by Coach Jim Harrick.
Still if anyone needs a quick reminder of Blago's this con artist's forgettable 12 years at UCLA here is islandbruin in the post-game thread.
Not only was Lavin inane, but it really is annoying that they have now rewritten history to talk about Lavin’s 12 years at UCLA. Give me a break. What they did not point out was that Coach Howland, who they rightly extolled, lost 28 games in the first 2 seasons with the threadbare cupboard that Lavin left, before he was able to re-establish UCLA’s identity as a national power. How this guy gets a microphone is beyond me.
Class of 66 also provided the following takes on how the con artist still has no idea what he is watching on the basketball court:
Like the morons, the lizard just doesn’t get why we are so strong and why we win. If they would read along here they’d know about our offensive efficiency rating. And, they’d know that when we play our lock down D, we really are unbeatable — because our D keys our O. I can understand the lizard overlooking this — after all, he really couldn’t tell the difference between when we were being manned or zoned.
And, I cannot tell you how tired I am of hearing how intolerant we are of not winning championships.
We are so far from that. We are realistic and part of that realism is that we know when our coaches suck, are not developing our talent and are throwing away our future; when that happens, we are intolerant.
Yes, I know, I should have turned the lizard off — it grates at me that he is the "expert" commentator. But, in a way it is funny to see the lengths he will go to aggrandize his terrible term in Westwood. I agree with the posters — when they rolled out the 12 year thing, and showed all the pictures of him with Harrick and tried to create the impression that he was an integral part of the banner year — I just laughed because it was so pathetic.
Well I guess the only people he is fooling are the corporate overlords on WWL who are foolish enough to pay this tragicomic blowhard to "analyze" basketball games (I wonder if he has figured out the difference between a zone and man-to-man defense).
Whatever he says the reality is we do know him pretty well in Westwood. We know him well enough to know that he is nothing but a cheap con artist (just like Blago) who ripped of UCLA posing as "leader" of our basketball team.
We just don't get why Dan Guerrerro, Coach Howland and their staff allow this con artist to return to Pauley. He will never be part of us or part of Wooden's program which thankfully as been restored under the Caretaker of Westwood.
GO BRUINS.
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The headline caught my eye ...
… and after a few shizz and giggles, as I read on, I realized Nestor, you have proven my point all along. LavinBall never can truly attain the greatness that UCLA was with Wooden and is to be with Howland. Lavin never left a legacy at all, but only a trail of damage and a gutted bball program! I have to add as a caveat, the fact that Lavin hasn’t coached since UCLA proves that he is NOT hireable at any Div 1 team. So why do we even give this clown the attention he surely does not deserve, is beyond me!
BTW ~ When I was watching LorenzoBall, I felt this wave of disgust and nausea watching his style of play, suddenly realizing I’ve felt that way before …. with LavinBall!!!!! Ew.
Go BRUINS!
by LoyalAlum94 on Feb 1, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am not a fan of Romar
But at least he knows a little something about hoops (he will never be Howland). But Blago … like I said above he didn’t know the difference between zone and man-to-man defense (and he certainly “coached” like it).
I don’t like wasting blog post space on this sleazebag but some pushback is warranted when we hear him spewing nonsense about our program on national TV. Since no one in Southern California’s lazy and pathetic traditional media (more on them early tomorrow am) will tell it like it is, we have to push back on our own terms.
by Nestor on Feb 1, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dohn had this to say about Romar and Howland
in response to a question about UCLA being his Pac 10 favorite despite his statement that UW had better players:
“Washington did have better players on the court, but over the long haul it is also important to have someone very good coaching them.”
http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/2009/01/answers-part-xiv-corrected.html
by bucknellbruin on Feb 1, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, we commuicate
the " regular, nature created " way. Unfortunately, whatyoumightcallit has a knack to not do it that way. Everything he mutters seems like they come out of that other orifice not designed for communication purpose at all. I guess we just have to put up with the Blagojevich of Westwood whenever he is on. What can I say !?!
by Htse005 on Feb 1, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lavin=revisionist history
I think the classic line was when he alluded he knew it was time to move on….As I recall, knowing it was not an option…He was canned! If he was so prescient, why did he not leave years before…Oh, I remember, he needed to keep his high school buddies employed….
by Gary72 on Feb 1, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What you say is factually true
but I think we should ask ourselves WWWD? What would Wooden do? He would still treat Lavin with respect and realize he is a flawed coach and flawed person. However, I did hear him say during the Stanford game that it was best for the him and the university that they got rid of him when they did. I never heard him admit before that it was in UCLAs best interest to can him when we did…
I know Ill get blasted for saying this, but I think we just gotta be better than Steve, realizing he still can’t admit what he did, and move on.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Feb 1, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hear you
and there is some merit to what you say. However, if he was spewing his nonsense from some small time tv station or in some irrelevant paper, I wouldn’t have spend my time pushing back. The fact is he has a huge platform on WWL, from where he is making a concerted effort to revise history at the expense of UCLA basketball fans. Can’t let him get away with that.
by Nestor on Feb 2, 2009 4:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
I listen to stevie, but I just realize he is a guy who really doesn’t understand his business, but is trying to get by… I run into that all the time in the corporate world. The biggest talkers are the ones who really don’t understand the business at all, and try to cover that up with cliches and nonsense like Steve does.
Stevie will never have his teams celebrated like the Wooden teams, because after his first season, they all underacheived. He has to live with that. He had all those years this as head coach, but he built nothing of value. The only thing I respect about Steve is that hottie of a wife of his.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Feb 2, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cute, but the tat?
Sorry I’m old; but i’m not with the bob tat.
by 10amla on Feb 3, 2009 2:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely, silverlakebruin
I believe this is why Dan Guerrero and Coach Howland and his staff treat SL with the respect he doesn’t really deserve: they are way too classy to call attention to his shortcomings, and his absence at certain events would most likely be seen as a conspicuous indicator of disdain and disrespect.
I’m not sure we really need to worry too awfully much about his revisionist approach and utter lack of basketball IQ at this point, because others are watching him reveal his ignorance on a national stage.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Apr 22, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm disappointed in our moderators
I thought this was a family friendly blog. Then you not only use the “L” word (the euphemism “CHP” is used in polite society), but also you show the picture. Small children may look at that picture, and require years of therapy.
You guys need to be more careful.
by Fox 71 on Feb 1, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The destroyer of Westwood.
When I recall Lavin’s tenure at UCLA I’m reminded of the hoards of wasted talent such as Jason Kapono, Matt Barnes and Dan Gadzuric. Barnes I will always remember for never having a clear roll on the team as to what his duties were on the floor.Kapono I never thought it was possible for a player to regress with time. I looked through and old media guy from Lavin’s second to last year I thought it was sad how they kept hyping up all his sweet 16’s comparing him to Coach K and Tom Izzo’s ya those guy’s went to sweet 16’s but they also won National Championships. . I also thought it was funny how they seem to forgot to mention the year they were knocked out in the first round of the NCAA Tournament by Detroit Mercy. I think an asterisk should be placed by that Pac 10 title he won having it note he won it with a good chunk of Jim Harrick’s team.
by Bruin101 on Feb 1, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it's all clear
he was a blemish on our bball program like the tattoo his wife has on her boobie. the fact that guys like barnes gadzuric hollins and watson play in the nba just show how he wasted so much talent.not to mention the ones he shooed away with his lack of structure like hassan adams. with all that said, kris johnson was not very good , i wont blame his lack of success on anyone but him. he was just a spoiled brat lounging on his dad’s name
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Feb 1, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Intolerant about not winning championships
I am intolerant of that line of thinking. I’d much rather have a coach that gives us a chance to win every year as opposed to a coach that will win one if he sticks around long enough (Jim Harrick), and definitely over a coach that gets lucky with Sweet 16’s every other year (Lavin).
by bruin8uclap on Feb 1, 2009 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was a terrible coach
We don’t need to get into the gradual fall into mediocrity, the number of players who were no better as freshmen than they were as seniors, the offering of scholarships to players who wouldn’t start for the worst teams in the WCC, the unacceptable number of blowout losses, the victim playing etc. I’ve moved past that. Almost.
Now, my beef with him is that he is a terrible announcer. Cliches every 4 seconds. Constantly makes clueless comments. Never shuts up. Makes Dickie V seem quiet in comparison. Talks as if he were a coaching legend who retired after years of success. I’m waiting for them to prop him up with a great trivia question: Who are the only 3 UCLA coaches to take the Bruins to the round of 16 in 3 straight seasons? Why, only John Wooden, Ben Howland and CHP, the implication being that he’s worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as the first two. He’s not. He’s a fraud. Why this guy has a job doing anything in college basketball is beyond me. ESPN is a joke for hiring him and allowing him to infect the minds of college basketball fans everywhere.
I do get at least one good laugh every time that CHP announces at Pauley because they always show photos from the 1995 championship team. Why? Because he’s clearly the outsider of all the coaches. You see a picture with about 12 players and coaches, and, oh wait, there in the back trying to stick his head into the huddle is Mr. Hair Gel. He’s only slightly easier to spot than Waldo. He doesn’t even realize that he looks like a poser in the photos.
by BruinsRule on Feb 1, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
"Now, my beef with him is that he is a terrible announcer."
I didn’t hear a word he said in the last game. I had the sound off. If he had been the radio announcer, I would have had the sound off, too. When you get old, there is a limit to what you can take. My limit with blowhard announcers is zero.
Case in point. My current candidate for the biggest blowhard of all time (because I was forced to listen to him at a party) is John Maddon. He made a big point about how Pittsburgh has to got to “guard the sidelines.” Well, to start with, the sidelines have yet to make a catch in this history of the NFL. Anyway, was Fitzgerald’s go-ahead (and almost-winning) TD for the Cardinals on the sidelines? Nope – it was right down the middle. No talking about guarding the sidelines at that point.
I think that was my last Super Bowl party. I just can’t take listening to blowhard announcers.
Anyway, Bruins, listen to Dr. Fox 71. If you want to avoid aggravation, TURN THE VOLUME DOWN.
by Fox 71 on Feb 2, 2009 4:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lavin = Blago?
Come on, no need steep that low. Blago has at least one redeeming character trait more than Lavin and less hair gel.
by lunabruin on Feb 2, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
WWL
What’d we expect. They put guys like Duke Vitale and Lee Corso who haven’t done “_” in their respective fields. They hired and finally fired a condom that likes to conveniently have his pants fall in front of women. Or another former condom that blabbers about team and critiques players for being selfish when he yelling for the damn ball.
by BlueReign on Feb 2, 2009 9:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lavin was a terrible coach, but...
I remember in 2002 I took my then 5 year old son to Pauley to see UCLA play Arizona St. I remember it was a particularly bad loss since we had just beaten a much better UofA team the previous game. I remember being particularly critical on Lavin that year because we had Barnes, Kapono, and Gadzuric, all NBA ready talent on the team and we were once again woefully inept at taking care of business.
After the game, my son and I were walking to the parking garage when my son spotted Coach Lavin walking towards the Morgan Center. Now, my son at that point couldn’t even do muliplication, but he could name everyone on the team so he yelled out “Coach!” I figured Lavin would just keep walking but he turned around, smiled at my son, and got down to kneeled down to chat with him quickly. I remember he graciously signed my son’s basketball, but what I remember most was his line “I’m really sorry you came out and didn’t get to see a good win. I promise next time you come out I’ll try to coach a better game. You’ll still come out and see us right?” to which my son enthusiatically replied yes. Lavin shook both of our hands and walked off to the Morgan Center.
Lavin wasn’t a good coach and I don’t know what type of person he was other than that conversation. But all I know is that my son was so thrilled that he got to speak with a coach at UCLA and I’ll always be grateful that he took some time out to make my son’s day.
by UCLAClass82 on Feb 2, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Lavin was a terrible coach, but....(2)
his wife is smokin hot!
Go Bruins
TRM
by G0Bruins on Apr 22, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spoke to Lavin during my time at UCLA
And he was very polite and cordial. I felt bad that such a nice man was such a terrible coach.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Questions
It was mentioned that DG shouldn’t let CHP work our games. Do we actually have approval rights on the broadcast team?
Technically, how feasible would it be to stream live audio from the Den? Watching the games with no sound at all feels too sterile.
by bru79 on Feb 2, 2009 10:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoever was announcing with him
did throw a few jabs at him while the Lizard was going on and on about his UCLA “legacy”. In particular, there was a clip of a timeout during the 1995 NCAA championship game, where they showed Lizard talking to the huddle…except no one was listening to him. That was hilarious! And the other announcer pointed it out, that was great!
To all the morons who wrote to the LA Slimes (at least, the ones who aren’t Trojies posing as UCLA fans): whom would you rather have coaching UCLA right now, other than Ben Howland? In the whole country, who else would you rather have? I say NO ONE! Seriously…absolutely no one.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Feb 2, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Think of all the NBA talent he had and no banners to show for it.
Lavin had the following guys on his rosters, all of whom were drafted for the NBA and got some run in the Association — and this does not even incldue guys who may have played professionally in Europe or the CBA or the D-League:
96-97
Toby Bailey
JR Henderson
Jelani McCoy
Charles O’Bannon
97-98
Toby Bailey
Baron Davis
JR Henderson
Jelani McCoy
Earl Watson
98-99
Matt Barnes
Baron Davis
Dan Gadzuric
Jerome Moiso
Earl Watson
99-00
Matt Barnes
Dan Gadzuric
Jason Kapono
Jerome Moiso
Earl Watson
00-01
Matt Barnes
Dan Gadzuric
Jason Kapono
Ryan Hollins
Earl Watson
01-02
Matt Barnes
Cedric Bozeman
Ryan Hollins
Jason Kapono
Dijon Thompson
In other words, Lavin had multiple-year NBA players, guys who have signed multi-million-dollar, multi-year contracts at the pro level, and he had these players for MULTIPLE years himself.
An NBA All-Star in Davis. A defensive point guard respected throughout the Association in Watson. A backup center known for rebounding and hustle in the middle of a six-year, $30+M contract in Gadzuric. A leading three-point shooter and a member of the 2006 NBA champions in Jason Kapono.
Lavin had ALL of these guys for FOUR years apiece, and had all of them together for TWO years…
And we couldn’t even get a Final Four slot??? (No, I am NOT counting the 1996-97 technicality)…
Geez.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Feb 2, 2009 11:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
To me the tragedy isn't that those players didn't hang banners
to me the tragedy is that they didn’t get what they came to school to get — better.
Some, actually got worse.
We not only squandered their talent, we wasted their years in college.
The only player I can think of who didn’t get better under CBH was Michael Fey, and he really wasn’t CBH’s player. To balance that out, I wonder if Ryan Hollins would be having the career he is having had he not played for CBH.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 2, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He only got out of the Sweet 16 once and won the pac 10 once
if memory serves….
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Feb 2, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at 98-99
And look at where those players are now…
by Tydides on Feb 2, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone imagine how Lavin's guys would have looked under CBH???
Can you imagine how Matt Barnes would look on this current team? Good handle, quick reflexes, good rebounder, passable (if incosnsitent) outside shot and elbow jumper — someone like that getting molded under Howland would have been incredible. Maybe not Luc-like in terms of strength and reach, but possibly similar quickness and defensive rotation ability.
Or how about Earl? A defense-minded PG with good hops and good length at 6-2 or 6-3? Maybe not Russell-level athleticism or DC-level shooting, but I doubt anyone one around here, even in the dark days of Quagmire, questioned EW’s toughness.
Shoot, what about Gadzuric? 6-11, 245, with agility, strength and soccer-player’s stamina? Maybe not as thick or immovable on D as LMR, but could have been just as effective a backstop and shotblocker.
Oh well…
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Feb 2, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lavin said it best himself
“If I can’t win a championship with these guys, I can’t coach.” Of course, we all know what happened next. He failed to get out of the Sweet Sixteen, the team fell apart due to early defections to the NBA, and it took UCLA far to long to show him the door.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Apr 28, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baron Davis Comment
The Bruins had just beaten Pitt in the Regionals in San Jose a couple of years ago. After the game, several former players came to the team hotel bar to celebrate our victory. A couple of us got a chance to hang out with them and just chat. While talking with Baron Davis, I said that we really did not want him to leave (go pro early). And he said, " I didn’t want to either." Of course, then I asked him why he did. He said “Because I didn’t have a coach.” That is a direct quote. Matt Barnes then joined in, but I really cannot post what he said here. Rico Hines was listening to the whole conversation and agreed completely. Suffice it to say that it is a very good thing that we got rid of Lavin. Too bad it took us so long to do it.
by Westwooden1 on Feb 2, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was there too
Being Westwooden1’s daughter, we were there together. It just made me sick to hear Baron say he didn’t want to leave early. Good thing we have such an amazing coach now! GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Feb 2, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
baron
has made that comment in various instances. and he is totally right.
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Feb 3, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Your criticisms of Lavin
are so merciless and intemperate that I feel compelled to think of something to say in his defense.
I’m working on it.
Still working.
I’ll have to get back to you on this.
by ReineSeite on Apr 22, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In all reality,
I think people are being incredibly harsh. Lavin is gone, his time is over, and he did run the program to a sub-par, occasional glimpses of hope, but ultimately terribly coached teams. But he’s the only ESPN commentator that I rarely hear commending Howland, He continually addresses Coach Wooden in his commentary, and he’s the only face that those $CUM alum (at ESPN) have hired to talk about college basketball giving UCLA some presence nationally.
Why don’t they give Bill Walton his job and then Bruins could be at peace with who is covering their games… Until then, I’ll take some positive commentary during our games…
by UCLABRU1 on Apr 22, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've heard Bilas, McNamara, and Lunardi all praising Howland repeatedly.
Bilas, in particular, has been a regular, vocal suppoorter of us the past 3 years.
MIM
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Apr 22, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I agree. I think that people are going pretty overboard with this. Yes, he wasn’t a good coach, he isn’t a great commentator, but he does praise UCLA quite a bit and we’ve seen more bitter ex-coaches lash out at their former programs. If the UCLA Club of OC wants Lavin to speak there, that’s fine. I’ll direct my e-mails to causes that I actually think affect the way we live.
by UCLAClass82 on Apr 23, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh no
He praises UCLA because it helps his agenda of self promotion. If you actually closely listened to his commentary and knew what he did behind background during his years, it would be clear that Lavin never cared about the best interest of UCLA.
It is a problem when the UCLA Club of OC allows Lavin to have a forum to make excuses and revise history.
And if you think we are going overboard with then you were not paying attention to what Lavin did to program.
by Nestor on Apr 23, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He "damns with faint praise"
Anyone who listens can see through his tactic. He appears to say nice things but the total implication is that we are a bunch of ungrateful fans who demand banners.
He’s far from a UCLA fan and farther from the fans themselves.
He should not be calling our games — or any games for that matter.
Give me Donny Mac who deserves a national platform. He’s knowledgeable and straightforward. No personal hidden agendas. He calls it straight.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Apr 23, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only remaining problem with Lavin is his portrayal of the fanbase
I can’t remember a single broadacst of a UCLA game where he is commentator where he does not mention (a) him taking various teams to the Tournament and then (b) how at UCLA, you’re supposed to win championships.
To me, the implication is that he was run out because of that, and that UCLA fans are inherently unreasonable because of such an expectation.
Put plainly, I would LOVE for us to win a title every year, but I KNOW that isn’t going to happen with any realistic probability. However, I am PROUD when our teams grow and improve from year to year, and within a season, from December to March (or hopefully, April).
I know our teams may be outmatched, but I never want to see them outfought, or out-taught.
Hearing Lavin comment on how much he enjoyed being a teacher and giving the palyers structure and discipline, during the same broadcast where he mentions not living up to the high standards fo UCLA, particularly irks me because there have been multiple instances where players have complained about the lack of coaching (Baron Davis), cited the actual increased discipline under CBH (IIRC, Thompson and Bozeman), or other isntances where players waved off instructions from Lav during game-time (Kapono not coming to the bench vs. Duke in one Tournament and picking up a 4th foul in the FIRST HALF; Watson during his senior year not rotating out).
Is Lavin the devil incarnate? Of course not.
But was he really run out of UCLA because of “unreasonably high” expectations? NO.
Was he that great a TEACHER? I doubt it.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Apr 23, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CHP is sort of like Nixon before the Frost Tapes
He was a bad coach and made horrible mistakes, but won’t admit any of them. He blames others for his own errors. He cannot recognize his own character flaws. The difference is that Nixon wasn’t given a national audience to discuss how he was unfairly drummed out of office.
CHP will always be calling games because he generates controversy. (ESPN could care less if he is accurate or knowledgeable.) I did not hear a word the guy said last year, and won’t next year either, because I turn down the volume. As long as the volume stays up and CHP keeps generating controversy, ESPN will be happy.
by Fox 71 on Apr 24, 2009 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peter Principle
L’s level of competance was/is a recreation supervisor—roll out the balls and let them go at it.
by bru79 on Apr 24, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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