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bruinponcho already fanshotted the news but in case you missed it Ben Ball warriors will have to deal with some nagging injuries heading into what will be the toughest road trip of the season (at least to date). DG and ML are little banged up while ND and DC are dealing with flu. From the reports it sounds like all of them will be ready to go but Howland as always is taking the cautious route. From Dohn's report:

UCLA backup center Drew Gordon, who is averaging 4.3 points and 3.1 rebounds in Pac-10 play, is bothered by a sore lower back. It limited his minutes against Notre Dame, and his status is uncertain for Thursdays' game.

"I'm hoping Drew Gordon is going to be able to play," Howland said. "It's going to be an up-in-the-air thing that we'll find out over the course of the next couple of days."

Gordon was injured when he was simultaneously hit on the waist and chest while trying to rebound against the Irish.

Gordon was scheduled to take part in part of Tuesday's practice, and said he planned on playing Thursday.

"In my mind it's not even an issue," Gordon said. "But (Howland) is overcautious and wants to make everyone is 100 percent."

Howland said backup guard Malcolm Lee (ankle) was expected to practice. Point guard Darren Collison and power forward Nikola Dragovic, 40 percent of the starting lineup, are suffering from flu-like symptoms.

Needless to say we are going to need everyone of those warriors to pull out a victory Thursday night. I don't really want to rehash what took place in Pauley about two weeks ago. Yet what I do believe is worth recalling is how our bench didn't to get to play a crucial role in that game. We are going to need DG, ML, MR, JA, JK and even JMM ready to step up defensively on Thursday night so there are no drop off when our starters are getting a break. As the LAT reports those guys have been stepping in last few games:

As the season progresses, the Bruins are relying more on their bench, with five reserves getting considerable playing time.

That ranges from swingman Michael Roll, averaging 18.7 minutes, to point guard Jerime Anderson, averaging 9.4, giving Collison valuable rest.

Howland says he believes that fatigue played a role in the way his team stalled down the stretch against Arizona State last month.

"Some of our starters had played too many minutes in a row," he said. "You get a diminishing return on your effort."

If nothing else, the coach said he had learned to trust his freshmen, including Anderson, Gordon and Lee.

"Guys are getting better," he said. "They have 23 games under their belts, so they're more comfortable."

I thinnk it is also worth mentioning how Howland has been methodically and deliberately bringing along his fresmen class. Players like KL and JH are special talents who get to step in and play major mins right away (even though they have go through adjustments in their own ways). For rest of the frosh it's a process to get acusstomed to the college pace and at UCLA there is also the challenge of getting use to play Ben Ball defense. Instead of tiring his freshmen out and exhausting them, Howland has brought them along methodically and now kids like JA and ML look more confident and comfortable when they are stepping on the court.

Hopefully those guys keep it up because they are going to take on a hot ASU squad on Thursday night which is coming off its four straight road win. Here are some of the notable datapoints on the SunDevils courtesy of House of Sparky (our SBN colleague covering ASU):

*Jeff Pendergraph is shooting 69-of-99 (.697) from the field in Pac-10 games and 67.6 (127-of-188) overall. The 67.6 is one of the top marks in the nation (updated NCAA statistics come out later this afternoon).

*After going 8-22 (.267) in Coach Sendek's first year, the Sun Devils are 39-18 (.684) since and giving up just 61.0 points per game in his 87 games and are second in Pac-10 in points allowed this year at 58.4 per game, best by a Sun Devil team since 1948-49 (47.6). [...]

*ASU shot .739 from the free throw line last year, the fifth-best mark in ASU history and second-best in past 21 seasons, and is shooting just above that pace this year (.741). ASU made 16-of-17 (.914) free throws at Oregon, the third-best percentage in school history with a minimum of 15 attempts.

*James Harden’s 36 points at Oregon on Thursday (Feb. 5) is the third-most in school history in a road game.

*ASU is shooting 78.2 percent from the foul line (104-of-133) in its eight road games.

*ASU held Oregon State to 13 first-half points on Saturday (Feb. 7), ASU's best first-half defensive effort since it led Oregon State 33-13 on Feb. 25, 1995.

*ASU is averaging just 9.3 turnovers in its past six contests.

Reading through those numbers you get a sense we are going to take on another well coached and extremely disciplined team that plays solid defense, shoots well from the FT line, and doesn't turn the ball over a lot. And we also know from our last game against them that those guys don't really get rattled all that much. Herb Sendek has done a solid job with that program.

The key for us as usual will come down to rebounding and defense. I am not worried all that much about our offense. I think our offense will come around if we are playing our shut down defense resulting in aggression on the offensive side. The game is going to present a huge challenge for two of our warriors: PAA and JH. PAA will be tasked with defending Pendergraph while JH will most likely get the assignment v. Harden. Both of those guys had great game against us in Pauley and I am sure are chomping at the opportunity to engage on their home court.

I think if we maintain our aggression on offense by attacking the rim and not settle for jump shots we will have a good shot at pulling off the win Thursday night. It seems like our guys are playing with more certainty and confidence in the way we have been attacking the rim last few games. However, we should note that our offensive explosion has come against teams (except for the Trojies) who are not well known for defense. Thursday's game against a very solid and deliberate defensive oriented squad will be a good measuring stick in terms of how far the team has come in last two weeks. As I mentioned yesterday, it will not be a shock (to me at least) if things don't go our way, however, it will be a big statement for our warriors if they can come out a with a win.

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Ariz. St. Plays Zone

We have struggled against zone defenses also, and ASU is the only team that plays it regularly. It will be a good test.

by 75NatChamps on Feb 11, 2009 5:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Bench

I love the way our bench guys have played some quality minutes this year. There is no question that we are a deep team which will obviously help us in every game we play moving forward. And they are especially needed now that some of our guys have some health or injury issues.

I also wanted to say hello to the Trojan Trolls who we all know lurk on this site. Your team sucks and is irrelevant. Have fun in the No Interest Tournament. See you later.

by Barnes2JJ on Feb 11, 2009 8:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Zone Doesn't Scare Me Anymore

I’ve written, several times, that I think we may play better against the zone than we do against a very quick, ferocious man D.

We actually had the ASU zone handled until we ran out of steam/slowed down.

With our much improved outside shooting, and our ability to drive inside the zone for midrange jumpers — and with PAA’s new scoring game, we can beat most zones — so long as we stay active, move the ball in and out, and don’t just pass around the outside for a late-in-the-clock shot.

And, since our O is really ignited by our D, if we continue to make defensive rebounds and run, or create turnovers so that we can score in transition, the zone will have little impact on our scoring. How do you beat a great zone? You never let them set it up.

I have to look at the stats, but I think that we have been more efficient against zones than last year and perhaps more efficient against zones than against man.

If we play an entire game, Thurs, like we started off against ASU, if we don’t let up, we should be fine.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 11, 2009 8:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

very quick, ferocious man D

I can definitely appreciate the argument you are making. Last week I watched a little of the game between Michigan and UConn just to see how a team that beat us plays against one of the elite top 5 teams in the nation. What struck me is that it seemed like Michigan had a chance to win for a while, but as it came down to crunch time, UConn cranked up their D significantly and their superior athleticism started to totally shut down the Michigan offense, allowing UConn to pull away and win. I had flashbacks of Florida/Memphis bad memories.
I don’t see this kind of test for us coming up in the Pac10 (the closest thing might be the Washington game), but I’m hoping that we DO see this test in the NCAAs because it’ll mean we’ve made a deep run and we will have a chance to win it all.

by mplsbruin on Feb 11, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well-Noted

It struck me, too, that UConn’s power is not just their pure athleticism, but that plus great conditioning. Even their bigger players don’t seem start showing any flat-footedness, or loss of rhythm, from which big, fast teams often seem to suffer toward the end of a game. Those guys are super fit, and ready to run.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 11, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

WHen ND tried to play zone against us, we picked them apart. Now they are terrible at D, and ASU plays their D all the time, every game, so it’s definitely different. However, with our new offensive movement of the ball, I am confident we wont be held scoreless for 8 minutes again.

by blinkshot on Feb 11, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fun with lists

polls and lists/rankings are irrelevant, especially in Men’s BB (except for seeding into the tourney). But, they are fun to discuss and dissect. For example, Rivals.com has Harangody in the top 5 (power forward) and Taj Gibson in top 5 (center), yet our own PAA does not appear in the top 25 in either list. Now I agree that one bad game should not hurt Taj or Harangody, but Aboya owned both of those guys and is a 4 year senior (with a degree) who has been to 3 straight final fours. Who has the better overall bball pedigree? Plus, he was Pac 10 POW. Of course, there are all sorts of articles questioning why the Bruins are rated #6 in the Coaches poll (all say we are over rated). East Coast bias anyone? Only a sweep in Arizona will change minds.

by Vanman7475 on Feb 11, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gody?

Gibson I can understand — he plays D.

Gody played absolutely no D against us.

Our recent NBA guys have all had success because they came trained to D up. Hard to believe that anyone would pass up PAA with his demonstrated toughness and all out, balls to the wall, style of play.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 12, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

off the subject

take a look at yahoo, and look at teams strange ranking its about us and are ranking.

by kyl57es on Feb 11, 2009 8:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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