Center Court: (Arizona) Second Half Thread
by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 10:59 AM PST
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PrintThere is not much to say.
Ben Howland and his entire team should be ashamed of themselves for the effort they just put forth in the first half.
Arizona Wildcats has come out on fire blasting UCLA out with a score of 49-31.
We look lost and sloppy on offense (turning the ball over IIRC 14 times). Our defense looks slow and lazy. We are getting outhustled and outoughed all over the court.
Most importantly ... we look weak and pathetic ... mentally.
Let's hope DC, JS, AA2 and rest of their team-mates show a modicum of pride and effort in the second half because up until this moment in this game ... they have been an embarrassment. Certainly not worthy of being called "warriors."
Here is to a better second half. Let's hope our guys can come out and fight to make up for this embarrassment. Thread away.
GO BRUINS.
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its not an issue of if we lose
it’s how we played
As we start the second half
Enough about the refs. Arizona is beating us in every phase of the game. This has nothing to do with the refs and they’re not a factor in this game. Arizona playing well and us playing horribly is what’s going on here, not the refs.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:01 AM PST reply actions
@ bucknellbruin
I think it’s just relative. When we were playing ND last week, their fans probably thought we were getting away with a lot of stuff also. Most people probably just think Arizona is playing good D and forcing us into the turnovers.
If the second half is
Like the first, he’s right. I agree with him that we’re not a top ten team
disagree
JH is a high caliber player and he will break out soon
i AM NOT BLAMING THE REFS
so please stop saying that. I’m just frustrated at how the game is being called. But something tells me if we are stronger with the ball we’ll start getting those calls anyway
just woke up
logged on to BN and realized we have an early game.
what the hell is up with the score??
Remember That TV Show, "Quantum Leap"?
This is like one of those parallel worlds where everything is the same except one thing…and that one thing is way, way off.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
game plan appears to be either
1. travel
2. throw the ball directly to an opponent and see what happens
or
3. get trapped in the corner and pray for rain
The problem is
When they get trapped they don’t rotate the ball fast enough to the open player for the easy shot. We’re not making them pay for their overly aggressive D.
(It's Not)
cupcakes.
:-(
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I want bruises and welts
On Buds arms at the end of this game. It’s time to adjust and if physicality is being allowed, then it’s time to raise our “game” in that respect as well. Shove the cats. (Figuratively) punch them in the mouth and bring back the D.
yep
that’s exactly what we need to do
by bucknellbruin on Feb 14, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I am so friggin lost
I can’teven comprehend the game at this point. This team is unrecognizable at this point. What the hell is going on????
We need to rebound better also
Box out Hill – get some offensive rebounds also if possible. If Drago is on the perimeter, someone else needs to rotate down. In general, we should have at least 2 people down trying to get rebounds on O.
Yep
Couldn’t have said it any better. It is really just pathetic. I wish I could understand this team. Arizona is certainly bringing it to us. It seems every time a team does that, we get scared and lose ourselves. I’m thinking of UW. Similar situation—a fast point guard and guys playing tough. Meanwhile we seem to shrink.
I don’t care if we win or lose. I want to see our guys come out and fight. And if not then CBH should pull them. I at least want them to get a lesson today.
Bruins Forever
I feel that
I just want to see them up the physical play. If UA can do it and not get called, then we can too, and we must.
well it's pretty obvious how to beat this team
play an aggressive, trapping zone D. That’s what Michigan, ASU, and now Zona all have done. Remember, in the first game Zona played a standard 2-3 and we picked it apart. They adjusted their D and it’s worked so far.
This is so insane
we have got to attack the basket more and stop having JS dribbling and shooting from 40 feet away!
those direct passes to zona near hoop
should count double…those were ridiculous….
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
wait Keefe's been in at all?
I’m serious i haven’t seen him once. Talk about making no impact…
by bucknellbruin on Feb 14, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
and why ND has been starting recently
(besides the 3 pt shooting of late)
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
There in no direction on the floor
No one wants the ball in their hands. It’s like playing hot potato. I wouldn’t mind if DG lashed out int he locker room like he did after the UW game. Someone needs to step up and take charge of the team
Why are we so lazy
on our passes, especially against the press? I don’t get it. And one thing I’m totally ashamed of is us not getting back on transition defense. Zona is playing the tempo and type of game we were playing 3-4 games ago.
OK -- New momentum
Shut down D and we can come back — stranger things have happened.
But, if we don’t start strong, I’d pull starters and play the bench, with exception of PAA and DC who are playing hard
sjh
and we are shooting 50%
wow…it is clearly TO’s and free throw differential
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Next Ten Minutes
I always feel like if we are within single digits, up or down, with 8 minutes left, that we will find a way to pull out a win. Let’s start chipping away with shut down D.
nice strong play by shipp there though
on the other end
by bucknellbruin on Feb 14, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
those second chance opportunities are killing us
esp with jordan hill down low
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
STOP TELLING ME THAT
THEY ARE NOT THE REASON WE ARE LOSING. BUT THAT WAS NOT A FOUL
by bucknellbruin on Feb 14, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Shipp
must be too excited to celebrate his birthday tonight
by SmrtGuy82 on Feb 14, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions
can tell how lazy we are on D
stupid reach ins like that….frustration!
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Shipp has got to stop dribbling
so much. He doesn’t have that first step!
offense has picked up
but useless if we don’t stop them from scoring….starting with shutting down those point blank shots and slams
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Dragovic needs to get open
He needs to get open on the perimeter and the team needs to start looking for him. I’m confidant in his 3’s.
We've made a concerted effort
to stay away from the three this half and throw as many bodies into the paint as possible.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Moreover
Even though Arizona scored there, there pace is more our pace. Seems like they’re more trying not to lose rather than trying to win on O
This is what I was talking about
If they’re going to press, attack the basket with purpose when you break it with the dribble or the pass.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions
We are getting burned on the hedge
PAA is getting back quickly — but not fast enough to cover hill.
Then ND comes over, too late, and Hill either scores or makes the right pass.
I’m sure it is frustrating for our guys. AZ is playing it right, and quickly.
sjh
It Will Be THIS Game,
not Thursday’s, that will show the true mettle of this team.
Shipp may have to get vocal, mean, and be the “Let’s Go!” guy, this time.
Love My Bruins
important note
we just took the crowd out of it. Hopefully the intensity will continue to pick up for us
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
i wouldn't count the crowd out
all it takes is one dunk/3 and they’re right back in it
by bucknellbruin on Feb 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Absolutely agree.
We definitely need to reduce if not stop the pumping and go with an open shot on the first instinct when it’s there. Gotta stop second guessing on open looks. There’s enough time in the game and we have enough speed on our team to catch up on a missed shot.
Remember the Gonzaga game!
We came back from a pretty big deficit in that game too. And we all know waht happened in that one! C’mon Bruins! LET’S GO!!!!!
In the past three Final Fours
our pick and roll defense was less then stellar. In all 3 losses, athletic big men hurt us on the pick and roll. It will be interesting to see what, if any, adjustment we make today.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:22 AM PST reply actions
wow
we just got on the right side of sptr for the first time in a while
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Budinger, Wise and Hill 2 PF's each
let’s put them in trouble and force their bench into the game.
sjh
We don't need to get all the points back here
It’s important to remember that we can only do it two or three points at a time. Too often teams try to get all the points back at once, begin to play too quick and their run comes to an end. Patience and smart play here Bruins. We’ve got 15+ minutes to get it done.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:25 AM PST reply actions
That's why I want to see continued attacking of the basket
That sets the tone for the rest of the game
An interesting call to say the least
I’ll take it.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:26 AM PST reply actions
JH too unselfish
just needs to take that himself. AA2 doesn’t have the hands for that pass
With all due respect
we don’t call wins early and shouldn’t concede losses.
Miracles happen
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Josh!! you have no handles!
Stop dribbling out of control!
Jrue
needs to be benched. He doesn’t show the sense of urgency
CBH
I beg of you………please take Josh Shipp out of the game. If I have to watch one more lazy pass and bad play, I may lose it and go postal.
JH needs to get some confidence
and swagger like yesterday. Dude, get it going man.
Just empty the bench
send a message to the starters. Can’t be any worse than this
Agree
we can still win and maybe the bench will win it.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Valentine's Day Massacre
Part II.
First a ton of lawyers/staff were laid off earlier this week, and now this.
Sigh
I don’t like being negative but those were some good opportunities we just couldn’t convert on. Keefe just needed to softly put it back in the basket.
I only know these things
-This is not how Pac 10 Champs play
-This is how a first weekend tournament team plays
-The “Real” us is somewhere between last weekend and this weekend so far
-The Zona streak had to end sometime – Looking likely it’s going to be today
What scares me a lot
is that we’re playing like this with a national audience. Two games in a row. And we have the Washingtons next week at home.
But we're a different team at home
Seems like it at least
I keep remembering the first time we played ASU
at home. We may have played well after that and UW, but this game and Thursday’s game is showing regression.
2 national games and two loses =
no national respect…and rightfully so if we continue to play like were are today
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
I say we put in DG and Aboya
in together. We just need rebounds and a way to stop Hill.
I agree
I’ve wanted this combo all season.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
anyone for just putting the walk-ons in
At least we would see some heart and excitement on the court
They are
showing no heart, and I place this solely on AA, JS, and DC. All three are the unquestioned leaders, and they are just taking this beating. We are going to be no better than a #6 seed. To be honest, we deserve it the way we have performed on the national stage the past few days.
Too early for comments like that
A win over Washington on Thursday and we’re 1/2 game out.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
but we don't always play like this
worst game in years. We can snap back.
Remember, what we did before this weekend. We can be that team
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
We did need to score when we had the momentum
Only down 14, after an Arizona turnover, we needed to take advantage
symbolic of this game, we lost it when alfred went up weak against cbud
he had a slam or at least FTs, but he tried to finesse it and in taking it down, Hill just stuffed him
Not Cupcakes
Yellow butter cake w/ chocolate mousse filling…
Cooling, but smells terrific.
Lost the live feed, and the link is posted on the other thread…help?
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
We are shooting 50% and have brought them down to 52%
difference is in turnovers and foul shots.
sjh
break away turnover
if we cant make a basketball on a break…can we ever?
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Exactly!!!!
He’s the only one with heart!!! He needs to yell at the others and bring them along!
He Will Be The Next
“Let’s Go!” guy.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
It really should be the seniors leading the charge
Aboya could have left but came back
DC thought about the NBA but came back to win a championship
JS has had an up and down 4 years and needs to make a statement
It has been there at stretches during this season, but not consistent
never thought I would see this lack of effort from a CBH coached team
best thing to do
give the rest of the team experience and regroup for an important must win against washington
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
throw the freshmen + DC in
at least theyll do something with their playtime
AA2 and JS have disappeared
I wouldn't
Make the guys who put in no effort finish this out and finish what they started.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I would like the freshmen to get a taste of this though
They’ll have some ownership of it, and could pay dividends later.
I think leaving the starters in could be a message from CBH
and something that can catapult them the rest of the way.
In reality, there is no right answer.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Post mortem
Sorry, but this is the punctuation to a season where everytime a statement is to be made, the statement is not what we would like to see. This team has yet to beat an above .500 team on the road. It wilts everytime pressure is put on them, especially at the end of the game. NOw, please do not think is am criticizing Howland…He is the person who brought this program back. Unfortunately, this year’s team has incredibly overrated talent. Aside from Collison, there is not a single player who will make any of the 3 All Pac 10 teams or honorable mention. JH has been the Bozeman of this class. Keefe has as much business getting a scholarship as Billy Barty (sorry for the reference to those under the age of 100). JS is dillusional when it comes to his ability. ND and Aboya are average Division 1 players at best. I cannot comment on the other freshmen due to their limited significant minutes. As for heart, only Gordon and the coach can answer that. However, again whenever a statement is to be made it is " we are just not good enough"….Hopefully, next year the team chemistery and talent level will make for a better year….Quite frankly, this year reminds me of a number of Harrick one and done tournament teams (just with less talent)…
It's brutal to watch
I can’t even watch. I’m just listening, with my back to the TV.
Maybe I should do a post with my wedding pics. I’ve been meaning to share them and I’ve been really slow about it.
Nasty combination...
Down year in talent and lack of effort…
Not likely
It’s a road game and we suck on the road this year
I refuse to head up to Cal
I work at the “Farm” and live closeby, so it was better for me.
At least there are no Lopez twins.
Good news:
We can get rid of all those streaks this year and start them over next year.
Start pounding Ariz year in year out.
Start winning all Thurs Pac10 games.
You know.
Honestly everyone
after our second Final Four, with CBH at the helm, I would never ever witness a massacre during the regular season ever again. Shame on the players for coming out the way they did today.
This is one game -- not a season, let up
our season is not over
We start a new one game season thursday.
sjh
I hear you 66...
but I said that on Thursday against ASU
So when will AZ
Go to it’s bench. I think we all agree that this game is over
I think they will want payback, considering none of the current players
have beaten us at home
Positive Energy
We can still turn it around!!
by Desert Brewin' Fan on Feb 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions
Game Over But...
It’s still important to play with a little heart and finish the game with something positive. Obviously UofA has outplayed us today, but we need to learn from this experience. You don’t win championships on Feb 14. This weekend reminds me of when Florida lost two in a row during their second championship season, and everyone thought the sky was falling down. With a little help (maybe an ASU loss at Washington) we can still win out and take the Pac-10. The game may be over, but not the season.
down to 15. Keep fighting!
I still say we’ve been trying hard all game. Guess TOO HARD, where it hurt our exectuion. Maybe we can turn this around!
In no way does this excuse the first 30 minutes
but at least we’re showing some pride. If we can play hard like this in the final 7 minutes then at least we’ll have a little something to take from this game.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions
Shouldn't we just be launching 3's at this point?
To hell with driving to the basket anymore
THis team has never given up .;. not for a moment.
It was all about getting rattled and out-hustled. Ariz was on fire. But we’ll see if they can re-light that fire.
I thought I was going to have to see a full 40 minutes
Where we just don’t fight at all. Thanks for giving me something to watch.
The only good thing about this game and Jrue
…is that it should convince him to stay and improve…
I'm hesitant to get my hopes up
But like I said in an earlier post, if we need a gonzaga moment…this is it
I seriously hope
My comments above turned out to be embarrassing, but I am not feeling it. I just don’t see it.
CBH needs to keep ML in...
this line-up is working. Please let them play.
Hahaha heart-break-city
now THAT’s what I’m talkin about!
shot clock was expiring
Wise makes the first and the second
bout time since he hasn't really taken many shots form out there lately
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
Believe it or not
We’re actually on pace to make a game of this. Shaving 2 points off every minute over the last few.
If we get within 8, I would rather be us than them.
This game could be incredible for the young guys – would serve as amazing experience.
B.F.
Me, Too.
No matter what.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Lee is guarding budinger
called for a foul on the drive
77-64, 4:20 to go
Hill just picked up his fourth. ML to the line.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 14, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions
especially from a great driver to the basket
he will be drawing a lot of fouls in his future
GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!
wasn't CDR also a bad FT shooter
At least at the start of his college career? He and Lee seem kinda similar to me except Lee plays way better D
and lee isnt a calipari thug
had to throw that in there
we need 3's. we've got to stop
getting away from the previous game plan. need to move and get open on the perimter.
It's more than the 3 point shoting that has gotten us back
the D has kept AZ from scoring as well
Some key turnovers that is keeping the score close
gotta take advantage of Hill with 4 fouls
don’t need to foul him out, just go strong and figure he’s not gonna risk fouling out
No single digit loss today
Looks like we’re fated for a double digit catastrophe…Jrue needs to stay and improve next year.
We need drago back in
If we want 3’s firing away, it’s him and that need to be taking them
Shipp misses a 3
Aboya rebound on the floor and jump ball to arizona
It took a long time
To develop that shot for shipp also – looked slow
Shipp misses a 3.
I’m stunned. That never happens.
I dont get it
for a talented slasher as he is
Arizona misses the 3, rebound tipped out of bounds by UCLA
Arizona ball with new shot clock
69-79 2:11 left
ive got to say
if there’s one caveat to this game, it’s that lee showed he can play on both sides of the ball
I have been high on the kid all season
His free throws are lacking but I think he plays well all around
Charging call
on Budinger – looked like a no call though
aboya misses
ball tapped out to budinger who lost the ball to drago
pass to shipp who hits the 2 with the foul
shipp misses the FT
out of bounds on hill
Oh hope on my end
Hubs: We need Reggie Miller
Me: This is the school of Reggie Miller
Hubs: It is but he’s not playing.
Collison misses the 3
jump ball rebound – possession to ucla
shipp for 3
misses, hill rebound and fouled
stick a fork in it
Collison missed a wide open 3
Hill rebounded again and fouled again
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