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Not Enough Heart: Arizona Embarrasses Howland's UCLA

As DG said following the Washington game few weeks ago:

"Right now, we just don’t have enough heart," UCLA forward Drew Gordon said. "At the end of the day, the other team wants it more."

Coach Ben Howland's UCLA Bruins embarrass themselves and humiliate Coach Wooden's program on national TV by getting massacred by Arizona.

It was a pathetic display of basketball in first half and early second half as an Arizona team with not so deep bench left JS and rest of the Bruin starters in dust:

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Photo Credit: AP Photo/John Miller

The final score is yet to be determined was 72-84 (box score). Doesn't Didn't matter really despite too little, too late desperate rally in the end.

Bruins were ugly. They were sloppy on offense, lazy on defense. They showed no hustle, no desire most of the game. Warriors such as AA, JF, LRMAM, LMR, and RW would have been humiliated if they were watching the game in person.

Notwithstanding the desperate rally our guys made late in the game which made the score close, this game was essentially over early in the first half on perhaps the worst stretch of Howland era since a blowout loss against St. Johns in his first year.

Right now this team should not consume itself with the thoughts of defending the Pac-10 championship or what seed it is going to get in the tournament.

This team needs to dig deep, look itself in the mirror, and decide whether it will fight back and show character like the Ben Ball warriors we saw in last three seasons.

Because as of right now as our freshman (perhaps the only guy who has brought fire and passion every game) we don't have the heart of champions. We don't look like a team that really "wants it." As mentioned in the second half thread below Ben Howland and his entire team should be embarrassed at themselves.

Calling the effort disappointing would be an understatement.

GO BRUINS.

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we can only hope this Zona trip is wake up call

no way to win if we play like this….

lets forget and beat Washington

GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!

by bk bruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no

we should let it sink in..

or as Vic The Brick says…marinate in this loss and come out angry

by drebruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What a difference a week makes...

…last week CBH said we were playing ball with the best of them. The way we played this week, we shouldn’t even be in the top 25. We need a miracle, baby.

by daggy on Feb 14, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

good an bad

one week you play good and the other week you play like shit.

by kyl57es on Feb 14, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, we're UCLA

and we’re not supposed to do that.

by daggy on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a joke, right?

The officiating in the last minute had little- nothing at all, even- to do with the outcome of this game.

by Ahambone on Feb 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Examples, please

Leave the snark at home- we’re both upset over this game- I don’t feel like the refs did much of anything in the final minute to take the game away from us. At this point however, I’m easily swayable.

by Ahambone on Feb 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just because they didn't take the game

doesn’t mean they weren’t awful.

The jump ball on the rebound, the foul when Hill was at the top of the key, the travel after Horne’s (?) rebound, the Dragovic steal. Most of those calls were just laughable.

by SuperBruinMan on Feb 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am heartbroken. Man this hurts.

I am disappointed that Howland & Co. didn’t find a way to motivate the players more.

B.F.

by eubruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I bet howland was motivating the team. THE couldnt get going till the end.

by kyl57es on Feb 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We lack a "go to" player

2006 – Farmar
2007 – Afflalo
2008 – Love
2009 – ?

Nobody can really take over a game and manufacture some offense for us when we’re in these tough situations. DC did it today, but it was probably too late

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think its both

We don’t have a defensive stopper or a go to guy on offense.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We were all fine with our offensive balance

When we were rolling. Now it’s a detriment? I don’t buy that, sorry.

I’m placing a much higher priority on a LRMAM-type stopper than a “go-to” offensive guy for a team that has a lot of guys that can score.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not really about balance

It’s more like when the shot clock is going down or near the end of a half, you want a go-to offensive player that can create or take a last shot and make it for you.

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or you could try not being in the low shot clock situation to begin with

Having balance lessens those situations. Last year we had a LOT more situations like that so it was necessary. Until the last couple of games we were going early in the clock.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

You are right in the sense that having a defensive stopper is a priority over having dependable playmaker on offense. DC is one of the guys but he is turning out not be enough on the offensive side. But we have no defensive sparkplug as you said … and it’s hurting us … big time.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jrue shows flashes

But is still inconsistent. LRMAM wasn’t a world beating D player in his freshman year either (though he was VERY good). Lee shows some promise as well, and has some RWesque physical assets.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think when we play ASU

We should just have Lee 1 on 1 on Harden the entire time. I “trust” him more than JH on D

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you guys are right on that end also

2006 – Bozeman
2007 – Afflalo
2008 – Westbrook
2009 – ???

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The defense has always been our hallmark

one could say that in the past 3 seasons our best offense was our defense. We relied on pressuring the ball and creating turnovers that led to easy baskets. This years team, for whatever reason, seems to have gotten away from that.

by BruinFan96 on Feb 14, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I said earlier in the year

It’s no coincidence that those 3 better defensive teams had one player in common. It only takes one guy being weaker than the others in CBH’s system to drastically lower the D’s effectiveness because of all the switching and team help. Unfortunately we have guys that, while improved, are not consistent, and that’s an absolute killer sometimes.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Freshmen definitely show flashes

I like how DG plays really good D, and I really like how ML plays D.

I hope our guys next year and contribute on D as well

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I won't lie

I don’t see it happening all that quickly. They’re forwards, and while they’re gifted athletically, I think it’s still going to take them time to adjust to the speed of the college game, especially on the defensive end. It’s a very strong possibility that our growing pains will be worse than this year. But the upside is tremendous. If Honeycutt and one other guy are ready to go from Day 1 while the rest of the guys get up to speed, then the outlook changes completely.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Redshirt

We should probably redshirt one of them too. Maybe Stover (even though he has the most defensive upside).

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I read

That guy could be Nelson. I haven’t seen these guys play outside of highlight clips though, so that’s not a fair evaluation of each guy’s game to game talents.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya he would be a good choice also

From the recent press, it might seem like he might not have the correct mindset to be a “Ben Ball Warrior”

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully the off the court stuff isn't an indictment of his character

Because I think on the court he does have that mentality. He brings the muscle, and I can see why CBH would want him. You always went enforcers. DG is an enforcer. Bobo can be one when he’s in the game. Enforcers help out your finesse guys, which I think Honeycutt is, and which our freshman guards definitely are. They do this via devastating picks and defensive backup

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

DC can’t create his own shot

by drebruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

strongly disagree. did you see the crunch time move he put on an az state dfender

and then had the absolutely horrible offensive foul on pendergraph? he created his own shot there and made it. He was the strongest for us today.

by harveyismyboy on Feb 14, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

that’s true..but its hard for him to get his own outside shot, especially from 3 pt range.

by drebruin on Feb 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DC he came through

He leads and can only do so much.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with drebruin

He led us back this time cause Arizona let up on D so he got some open shots.

Once he they tightened the D again, he wasn’t able to really create his shot anymore

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's more than a "Go to" player

we a re lacking leadership on the floor
I hate to say it but they look lost at times
The team needs someone to step up, be vocal, and kick some ass when needed

by BruinFan96 on Feb 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Collison tries to be that guy

I feel like it’s a Herculean task for him to go at it alone, though. I was hoping that Shipp would be a vocal leader this season, but it hasn’t really happened.

by Ahambone on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that guy was RW last year

I miss him throwing down HARD and screaming afterwards

by drebruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't throwing down so hard last night

Missed a dunk :-)
Okay that was OT, but watching him play in the Rookie Challenge was a lot of fun.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How much more time do we have?

It’s already the middle of February. CBH better be holding night classes for these guys…

by daggy on Feb 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the team got a little too high after their strong two week home stand

They are better than today, and I don’t think we are that far off from being a Pac-10 championship squad. We just need to focus mentally.

by PEDbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well someone needs to say it.....i'm tired of settling for the "we need to grow" excuses.

we can’t just sugar coat our losses anymore saying that we’re a developing team and we gotta trust that they’ll find their way. They need a wake up call after this road trip. There is a serious lack of heart on this team. No one wants to step up besdies collison when the game is on the line and our backs are against the wall. JH needs to find his offense and JS needs to play like a senior! This season I have tried to ignore the fact that we have allowed a much higher FG% and rebonds than previous year. I hate to be affected by 1 (in this case 2 games)—-but it just may be that we don’t have it in this roster—-and gatorade player of the year is just overrrated.

by BMV268 on Feb 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We just need to realize

That we’ve been to 3 straight F4 and we’re in a rebuilding year or two. I think our expectations are too high because DC decided to come back

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

strongly disagree.

ML has been hurt and BH very slowly works him back in. We havent really been able to read him yet. and I am so glad when DG is in because he brings intensity to this team with dunks and off.boards. I am happy with them this year, but they will get better.

by harveyismyboy on Feb 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no. drop to 18.

by kyl57es on Feb 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Out of the top 25

just to stir it up within the ranks, if nothing else.

by daggy on Feb 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

then what?

by kyl57es on Feb 14, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then start

a new winning streak, of course!

by daggy on Feb 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this discussion is insanely stupid...

I will come back later when the rational regulars are still here.

by popopapa on Feb 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You should have seen Louisville against ND

That team totally gave up early in the second half. Just going throught the motions. We would have put up 100 on that kind of defense.
Still say that we fought to the end but just could not get it done. And yes, bad, bad games from Shipp, Jrue and Aboya. Sometimes you try to hard, you press and you just cannot get over the hump.
You have got to look at the body of work this year and just realize we’re an okay team, but kind of in the 20s in rating unless the boys have a BIG surprise in store for us!

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks To All Of You

for keeping me updated, providing the link, etc.

I actually feel pretty heartbroken too, ebruin. Not a great Valentine’s Day, for certain.

I still love my Bruins, of course, and I know all of you true BN’ers do, too. I trust CBH to turn this around. I don’t really care about rankings, to tell the truth, I just care about my team playing their best—playing their hearts out, not mine. I have become quite used to the former.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Whiners and Complainers crawling out from under their rocks

I don’t know where you are all coming from — but this team is what we expected. Three starting players with little or no previous experience. Missing 3 NBA stars.

Losing on the road — that happens.

This was an ugly game — but I find it highly offensive that some of you who only post to whine and complain come out from under your rocks after losses.

This was not a good game for us. But, the sky is not falling down. These are good kids who did not play to their potential. No cause to call them out or call them names or whine like little bitches.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I'm out of here until these bozo's

vent and leave.

I’ll be back when we talk substance and support it with facts.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me, Too.

Thanks again to you guys for all the updating.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks 66

Best that everyone take a step or two back today. Too much unguided emotion here right now and not enough emotion guided by intelligence.

greg in denver - UCLA guy for life

by gbruin on Feb 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Comments like “JS is garbage” are truly insulting. Here is a guy who put in the work to come back from serious injuries to represent his school. And this is how the “fans” treat him.

My son made an observation about his old HS baseball team last season that has stuck with me. They were in a losing streak, and his comment was “everybody likes to win. This team needs players who hate to lose”.

I think the same may apply to this year’s UCLA basketball team. AA in particular fit the mode of hate to lose. Here’s hoping that a spark gets lit at some point.

By the way, I also disagree with comments like " CBH needs to motivate…". At this level, the players should be able to motivate themselves.

by islandbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is, in any sport, the coaching staff's

job to make sure that the players enter each game with the correct mind-set. The Bruins were collectively off today, and I do think that we can place some of that responsibility on Howland’s shoulders. Yes, the players should be motivated to play naturally, but if they aren’t – and today they were not – it is the coaching staff’s job to make sure they pick themselves up. This did not happen today until it was much too late.

And yes, I absolutely agree. Comments that attack the players are dense and unacceptable. If you can’t say something constructive, then please don’t post.

B.F.

by eubruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know what?

I’m still having fun. Seriously.
I love watching the freshmen get in there and mix it up. It’s like having 3 freshman year RW’s just relentlessly attacking with no fear. I know that we need the steadier and more predictable play of our vets, but man the frosh are fun to watch. Here’s hoping BoBo joins the party sooner rather than later.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree! But, sometimes we think of potential as the BEST game a guy has played...

but maybe that’s misleading.
Aboya was certainly below his potential. He was awful all night. He had hands of stone!
Josh did a lot of dumb stuff – but that’s Josh. He plays with emotion, but not always with his head. And as for missing that late 3, he’s not the 3pt shooter that Roll, Drago or DC is.
Jrue is far more troubling to me. He’s our future.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A bad loss, but not the end of the world

This is basketball, and UCLA’s not close to the bubble. They still have a month to improve before the tournament, which is what really what counts.

With all the talent they lost, they’re going to need that month.

by gilbert on Feb 14, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not like the season is lost either. A sweep of the Washington schools next week and we will be right back up in the driver’s seat of the Pac-10.

by baybruin415 on Feb 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone Said in the 1st half thread

“I don’t care if we lose as long as our guys try”

I think we got that mostly so it’s not too bad of a loss. Contrary to what people were saying, our guys didn’t “give up” and I’m proud of them for that

by karaethon on Feb 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We're just spoiled, is all

I think that we’re all so used to being a top-5 team, that even though this is a team that lost 3 NBA players and gained a crop of freshmen, we still expected this team to be at the same caliber of the last three UCLA teams. We’re so spoiled with what we’ve had the last few years that we aren’t as accepting of the growing pains that were going to come with this team.

by Ahambone on Feb 14, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey 66. remember Harrick used to

comment about Pac 10 road games being mean, nasty and ugly. I guess things got caught up with us at Tucson today.

We will regroup and take care of business at Pauley. We must beat Washington Huskies, and win the rest of the games to generate enough momentum going into the Pac 10 tourney.

For whatever reasons, our players came out inexplicably flat, even knowing they were on national TV. That is a big letdown for us, and it’s true. But knowing Howland, he’ll strategize and get the team going again.

by Htse005 on Feb 14, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with being carefree on D

When you’re out of it, it looks like this. If you take pride in every defensive possession and you’re out of it on offense, the game is always close.

We better damn well work harder on defense because we’re not good enough to rely on sheer athleticism.

by bluebland on Feb 14, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we were carefree ...

We lost composure at times and lost discipline. Guys leave their man to help out – that’s an “active” error, not a lazy error. So, yes, we do have to improve our defense but I don’t think we’re carefree if you meant “lazy”.
And as for defending Hill down low. That’s very tough to do.
We dug our hole with turnovers, not lazy defense.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Recovery is generally slow as well

But that’s not necessarily a “lazy” trademark. The first two/three steps are everything after the pass is away. Start off in the wrong direction to get back to your man and you’re screwed. It’s really not as simple as following the ball because screens are set and you have to adjust for that. If you have the experience and knowledge to just “know” where the passes are going, then it’s second nature and you recover to your man a lot quicker. ND usually has the biggest problem with this, but he’s hardly the only one. That’s not to take away from the strides he’s made with his man-to-man defense though, because I never thought he’d even get to where he is now in that department.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. And team speed is a problem too.

Keefe, Drago, Roll, maybe even Jrue don’t have the speed and quickness of Luc and Westy

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lazy's not the word

I used carefree to mean “not up to maximum intensity.” It takes a certain quick-acting mentality to switch-up on time and to rotate — and also to rebound well. Our defensive intensity is nowhere near where it was the last 3 years.

It’s not enough not to be lazy. Their head has to be in it at all times.

by bluebland on Feb 14, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Someone PLEASE Tell Me . . .

why Roll wasn’t in at the end when we needed threes? Shipp’s miss from the left side in the last 90 seconds was the last gasp . . . why wasn’t our 54% specialist taking that shot?

by charnaw on Feb 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not what I expected coming off of a lost....

I’m not concerned about having the extra losses on our record or the rankings on monday. I’m convinced the rest of nation only looks at the box score anyways. The ASU lost was heartbreaking but I knew it was a tall order on the road. This game was different. I think N said it best:

"Right now this team should not consume itself with the thoughts of defending the Pac-10 championship or what seed it is going to get in the tournament.

This team needs to dig deep, look itself in the mirror, and decide whether it will fight back and show character like the Ben Ball warriors we saw in last three seasons."

I’m not going to care what rank/seed we hope to be, but I want to be able to say that we look like a CBH team. We may not be as talented in our roster or as developed but they need the tough, blue collar characteristics that shaped our previous years.

Showing heart isn’t about how we rallied to pull within 10 the last 3 minutes of the game. It should have shown in our intensity after coming off of the ASU lost. We already looked beat in the first half of this game.

by BMV268 on Feb 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The squad CBH took to the national title game...

…had less developed talent than this squad. This squad is just as capable of putting together a 6 game winning streak in March.

The problem is heart and without AA and RW, I agree, this year’s team lacks an emotional leader. This team plays without heart. JS gets reckless too often when he gets fired up. I like seeing the fire, but unlike RW and AA, he tends to get sloppy when he gets that way.

Someone needs to take charge out there and these boys need to pull their head out from their behinds and get some fire. Too often I feel like they get caught up in their own hype and forget that every win requires maximum effort. We start to get rolling and then we totally fall apart. It’s happened way too often this season.

Realistically, we got to win it out from here if we want to hold on to the Pac-10 crown. If the boys want to give themselves a solid seed, they have to start winning games and winning them with authority, as we did the last two weeks.

by Bellerophon on Feb 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I'd agree but for one thing

We had Ryan Hollins.
This was a 7 footer with what seemed to be a 30 foot wingspan that suddenly became an offensive and defensive force. When his mind caught up with his physical gifts, the upside on that team shot through the roof. And I don’t believe I’m overstating this, because remember, he was the West Regional MVP. I love PAA, but unless he either shoots up 4 inches or develops an until now unseen creativity facing the basket, then the ceiling will probably be slightly lower.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe going into the season...

… but Jordan Farmar and Afflalo. Yes, you could say “less developed talent” going INTO the season. But, I’m appreciating these two guys more and more as time goes on.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree we're a little spoiled right now.

We played so well the past weeks since Washington, but I remember a post a few weeks ago about the ups and down of this season. Obviously there are many issues with this team right now. But I think we can see a pattern that when DC is needed to do so much, we don’t do well. This game was incredibly frustrating because it seemed as though we could absolutely nothing right. When we started scoring points in bunches, I found myself continuing to say “Well now we need a stop” and then Jordan Hill waltzes to the basket off of a blown defense. We’re always going to be defense first with Howland. Hill and Wise needed to be stopped.

Next week is the Washington schools at home. I hope that we can continue to be there for our boys, there’s no better time to stand with them that when they’re down. I still trust in Howland to get this team more focused.

GO BRUINS!!!

by moutekicksboute on Feb 14, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The opponent

I think at BN, we need to look at what the other team is doing to make the Bruins look uncomfortable.

During the 4 game stretch when blew other teams out, we just took it to them early with ball pressure and causing turnovers with the D.

ASU and UofA came with good plans against us, especially their offenses. They did not wilt under pressure when we came at them, in fact, they knew what we doing defensively and responded with the extra pass which in turn resulted in open threes.

Of course, our turnovers just made it worse.

I don’t think the turn around will simply come from the players, hustling more, etc. I’m sure CBH knows that he needs to make some adjustments. The full court pressure have made DC and JH too passive (DC became aggressive during desperation time, need it earlier). We need to get these guys involved early.

I agree with Nestor, we need to have the attitude of the 2005-06 team, be the hunter, and not sit back to be hunted.

by UCLA Championships Made Here on Feb 14, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Season is about what I expected

Losing that many players to the NBA and graduation is gonna have a deleterious effect on the team. With so much reliance on freshmen, who are just learning the college game, I expected the season to pretty much be a see-saw affair. However, I expected players to play with more consistency at this late stage of the season, but perhaps what we saw the previous couple of weeks was fool’s gold, especially since the games were all at home. This team has had a much tougher time winning on the road compared to Pauley. Although the team has 3 seniors, none of them have yet to really take the mantle as the unquestioned leader of the team vocally and on the floor. Plus, losing a glue player like Luc Richard has exposed some of this team’s weaknesses, as ND and JK have not been able to fill the void by his departure. All of that said, the team has now hit their rock-bottom, and we have seen how quickly they can ascend form the previous weeks’ performances. Hopefully Darren can address the team and tell them that he did not come back just to be a middle-of-the-pack team, that this is UCLA and they need to play up to their standards. I want to see this lowlight of a week to be the turning point, where the team now stops fooling around and start stepping up.

by UCLA4Life on Feb 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yea, i feel bad for DC. yes we’re a young rebuilding team…but somehow I still can’t help but feeling the team owes DC more.

by BMV268 on Feb 14, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uncharacteristic turnovers today.

Truly unbelievable how many we gave away. We’ll be alright, though. Our swagger will return as soon as the defensive intensity and smarts do.

GO BRUINS!!!

by moutekicksboute on Feb 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not enough penetration

We’re not getting into the paint and kicking it out for the 3 quick enough. There is way too much perimeter dribbling and passing with no inside play. We also hesitated on many of the 3 point opportunities we had. Zona came out with energy and purpose. We were just going through the motions and not protecting our possessions. Way too sloppy and way too many turnovers.

Russ Pennell has done a really good job in a difficult interim situation. He’s gonna get some offers at the end of the season. Interesting how Zona takes care of the house that Lute built. The want a premium coach with a big name and are willing to wait a year to find that coach even though Pennell is good enough. Unlike what Pete Dalis did by accepting LAVIN who destroyed the Cathedral of BB built by Coach.

by bruin75 on Feb 14, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Freshmen showed lots of heart

DG, ML, JA showed urgency, defiance, swagger and that theyplayed for the four letters on the front of their jerseys. I like their potential. JH showed great recognition in the second half has he tried to reduce his role as a playmaker when he was playing so poorly in the first half. Shows a lot of unselfishness. Personally, I think we should develop our freshmen more before the tourney. We go deep if our freshmen can provide quality ball play down the stretch.

Personally, I would not have played MR and JS as much as they did since they showed they were a liability on defense and had poor ball handling and passing throughout the game. I would have loved to see a DG and AA tandem in the first half when Jordan Hill went beast on us and we couldn’t grab a rebound for the life of us. I also think ND is a first half player. I think we should have tried to get him going early. He didn’t get that many looks as I would like. I really liked the squad when we were making our comeback before the 3-4minute mark with AA, DC, ML, JH. Personally, I would have played them to end of the game.

Arizona brought a tourney-like intensity level today that you don’t often see in the regular season. So we have got to recognize that we’re going to see this level of play from opposing teams from here on out, especially come tourney time. It’s time to re-group and focus what got us here in the first place. Trust in CBH and buy into defense. With the exception of DC, seniors really need to act like seniors and freshmen need to play more to develop and progress faster.

Just a thought, I think I would like to see DG, JH, JA, ML on the floor at the same time once in awhile.

Go Bruins!

by tommybruin on Feb 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Howland needs to concentrate on offense more.

Guess what happens when you practice defense 80% of the time? That’s right folks, no offense. When other teams study our defense and pick us apart we dig ourselves into 25pt holes. With the talent we have had on our roster we should be doing more. True we’ve been to the final four the last 3 seasons, but unless I’m mistaken, we don’t hang final four banners at Pauley Pavilion.

by sanji on Feb 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You might have something there.

I’ve always felt our passes are not consistently crisp, and we are slow to pull the trigger on passes. And I wonder how good we are at spacing and moving to create a good pass. Certainly not an expert here, but just wonder. And you kind of have an explanation. So much emphasis on D can only be somewhat to the detriment of O.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think the first two final four, we overachieved. Last year, we got to where we were and just ran into a better team in Memphis.

This year though, I think we are underachieving. James Keefe still hasn’t panned out after brilliant performances in the tournament last year, and Jrue Holiday is far too unselfish. We know he’s a good shooter and he’s a good finisher, but a lot of times when he takes the ball in, he’s looking for the pass instead of the layup/foul. This was a winnable game, and we really gave it away on turnovers and bad defense.

by chenalex on Feb 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Yeah we gave up 49 first half points and the problem was offense. Okay.

I don’t know how often I have to say this, but I will until people get it. Our Defense is rated LOWER than our Offense this year.

by Tydides on Feb 14, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Spot On ...

It’s tough to win against anybody giving up 49 points in a half. The offense is playing quite well enough to win.

by snorkeldorf on Feb 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

the guy is a UCLA basketball fan. If he was he wouldn’t sound so clueless.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We gave up 49 points in a half today...

… and allowed ASU to score over 60% fom BEHIND the arc, and we’re not spending enough time on OFFENSE?

Haven’t we been hearing this for YEARS?

And haven’t we been getting to the F4 when defense is our life-blood?

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Crawl back into the hole

wherever you came from.

Yeah, Howland needs to listen to you on how to run practices.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't come back here again

Read the rules before you attack the moderators again. Goodbye.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The "fist" could have been Darren cause he can flat out drain threes.

And attack the hoop. But this year he’s trying to be a pg, more and more lately and he started hesitating to shoot the 3. His 3pt attempts were way down until today. Look what happened tonight when he turned it on? Almost singlehandedly brought us back.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

However, for a guy that shoots 90% on FTs and is "one of the quickest players in the country"...

… why don’t we see him score inside the paint MORE?

Shouldn’t someone leading the country with ungodly FT percentages and track sprinter’s speed with a team without a DOMINANT post-presence (AA2 is improving, but still…) be attacking the basket like a rabid dog?

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Like I said "And attack the hoop".

He’s been trying to “run” the offense to the detriment of being an offensive weapon. Actually he’s been attacking more than shooting the 3. I think he can do both and be our fist.

by mplsbruin on Feb 14, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the team was in such a deep hole

that to keep us in it, he had no choice but to let it fly from long range

by drebruin on Feb 14, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops. Missed that. Agreed.

You did say that. My bad.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Collison should take the helm

I agree that Collison should be the “go to” guy, but I feel like Jrue is interfering w/ Coliison’s role since they essentially play the same spot. I feel like Jrue can’t take second fiddle to Collison since he is one and done and needs to put up numbers to protect his spot in the draft.

Its good that they run into these problems now, so they can address them now instead of the tourney.

by Bruhaha on Feb 14, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

M

You should put this on the home page and start a new thread. We need it.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On the way.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 14, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pac 10 Tourney

Looks like there will be at least two more Bruins in the stands at Staples. Just talked my wife into it. Let’s not have more Devil or Cat fans there next month, huh?

Go Bruins!

by kdout on Feb 14, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Reading this thread has been embarrassing

I am much more ashamed, embarrassed, and humiliated by some of the so-called fan’s comments here than I could ever be by our team’s performance. Where are these guys when we win? Why is it only adversity draws them out? Why can’t other teams get some credit for playing an inspired game against us?

The kids are playing hard, never giving up, and doing their best to represent UCLA. They don’t have to “better damn well” do anything more than that.

I also disagree that our kids or CBH have anything to be ashamed of. Shame should be reserved for bigger “sins” than losing a basketball game. Embarrassed, maybe, disappointed, sure, but they’ve got absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

by snorkeldorf on Feb 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Life Goes on

The day started off bad with the Arizona Beat down, and right after the game I had to take my dog, who has been in the family for over 14 year’s to the humane society to be put down. It really put’s things in to perspective. As Nestor and 66 and other’s have posted before the season even started, this type of season was expected. I am having fun watching Drew Gordon and other young bruins showing real heart and desire. He reminds me of Ryan Hollins. My point is, Win or Lose we will all have each other to lean on for emotional support. But please, the biggest disservice would be to put down our players and coaches, which a few of you have. If you could do any better you would be the coach or the player, so keep it constructive guys…

Go Bruins.

DBalter

by westwood12003 on Feb 14, 2009 2:32 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

If people attack Howland and our players

they will be gone. I did write that our players and coaches should be ashamed of the effort they gave in the first half. I will stand by that.However, that said we are not going to tolerate insults hurled towards our coaches and players by so called “fans.”

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, westwood

I am so sorry for your loss. They truly leave a big hole when they go.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 14, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

blink

You should put this up in a separate fanpost. Too much good stuff here.

by Nestor on Feb 14, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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