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So after a couple of days I was finally able to stomach reading the game reports from last Saturday. There were few comments that particularly stood out to me and they go back to what we had been discussing following Thursday's heartbreaking loss: mental toughness. Here is DC's quotes in the Daily News following the Arizona debacle:

"It's really mental. It's not so much physical," Bruins point guard Darren Collison said. "It's real hard to bounce back from a tough loss. That can have some truth to it. The bottom line is if we lose one game, we have to bounce back and win the next one."

More from the LAT:

Veterans Darren Collison and Josh Shipp had no real answer for what happened.

"We didn't handle their pressure," Collison said. "It was just one of those games when everybody was misreading everybody."

The Bruins also reverted to old ways, taking 14 of their 26 shots in the first half from three-point range. With little penetration to speak of, they did not manage a single foul shot in those first 20 minutes.

That goes a long way toward explaining why Arizona had a 49-31 lead at halftime.

"It's hard to dig that kind of hole and come back," Howland said.

And I will end with the following from DG, who in some ways is turning out to be the most prescient observer (and perhaps unquestionable future leader) of this team:

"It's weird, it comes and goes, our confidence," Bruins freshman center Drew Gordon said. "The confidence is high one game, low another game. We have to go at a constant pace. We can't go fast (one game). We can't go slow one game. We have to get to one certain level and stay there, and we have to find out what that level is.

"Hopefully, this will knock some sense into us and remind us we can't let our heads get too high."

Sounds like someone who understands the steady, even keeled approach for the entire season.

Going back to this past weekend I have to say I am not shocked by the fact that we lost both of those games. Remember even John Gasaway from Basketball Prospectus, who gave us a lot of (much deserved) props during the previous four game winning streak opined that it wouldn't be "inconceivable" of the Bruins had gone 0-2 during the Arizona road trip. So the Bruins did end up going 0-2. However, I think what has jarred many of us is the way we lost on Saturday afternoon.

Despite the heart break, I was fine with Thursday's loss. Tough losses like that happen. But I have been having a hard time wiping off the memories of what took place in Tuscon during the first half and first part of second half against Arizona. I think it really all goes back to leadership.

I want to zero in on our three seniors. Let me start with DC. He finished the afternoon with 26 points thanks to a nice spurt towards the end of the game. Still I think what we are missing from our current group of seniors is vocal leader. Earlier this year I wrote how we might be in position to have the most special senior day in Pauley since we said goodbye to the trio of O'Bannon, Edney and Zidek.

Let's think back to Ed'O. What made Ed'O so special was not just his clutch play but his vocal leadership. Think what Ed'O (or JF or AA) would have done during his senior season if his team was in the middle of a meltdown like we were experience against Zona? Would he have just stand pat if his team-mates were turning the ball over while in bounding the ball, coughing up the rock with lazy dribbling, and just dribbling around without a purpose on offense looking hesitant and lost? No, he would have torn into them and demanded more focus. We got the same leadership from both JF and AA by their second year at UCLA.

I am not sure we will get that kind of vocal leadership from DC. Don't get me wrong. He will leave UCLA as a great Bruin. However, he is a player who tries to lead by example. I am not sure if that is enough for this team though which is still working to develop it's identity.

As for JS, he is a great kid who has done everything Coach Howland has asked him to over his career. He runs the floor as well as anyone. He is fearless and doesn't hesitate from taking tough shots. Yet, I think he also sometimes operate from that gray area when it becomes tough to judge whether he is forcing it too much or just doing enough to fire up his team-mates.

Lastly, we have talked about PAA. He is a special Bruin who have given us everything possible, allowing Howland to get the best out of his athletic potential.

All of these seniors had a chat with Howland following the loss against Washington which resulted in the recent four game winning stream and inspired effort from the entire team. I have no idea what will take place (or has already taken place) following the tough weekend against Arizona. I think it has to start with the mental aspect of the game. We have all talked endlessly about the keys for this team's success: defend like we have seen a Howland coach defend in previous years, give it all when it comes to grabbing rebounds, and attack the basket (without settling for pretty jumpshots). I am sure they all get that. The question for me is whether these seniors can lead vocally and by example prodding rest of their team-mates to do the same.

No doubt Thursday night will be a gut-check game. I think it will start with the seniors who will not only have to demand more focus and inspired effort out of themselves but also from rest of their team-mates. Next few days will be all about leadership from our three seniors. Hopefully they will rise to occasion and make us proud on Thursday.

GO BRUINS.

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The Leadership Conundrum

None of the three seniors have been “vocal” leaders during their time here. All lead, in a quiet, follow my example, way.

JF, early in his career, would get in his teammates faces when needed. AA2’s pure passion, the look in his eyes — his glares towards those who were underperforming — that was leadership, too. RW’s “let’s go” fueled the fires.

I don’t think we will see any of that in your face inspiration from any of our starters. JH is deferential in his play and words; that would be great were this a team with other leaders; but, he is such a good kid, I cannot see him stepping up and getting into the faces of his elders. ND, as much as he has improved, doesn’t have the solid place in the lineup to gain the respect of a leader. PAA probably has both the standing and personality to do it — but has not done it so far. As to JS and DC, it’s all been written. I love them both. Both could change and seize the leadership mantle — but I don’t see it happening.

Are we a team without leadership potential? No, I really don’t think so. It’s just that the leaders are on the bench. DG, is clearly the Ed O of the future — and, if encouraged to play that role now, I bet he would step up. MR, at times has shown potential, too.

I am a voice in the wilderness, but I will continue to call for DG to be inserted into the starting line up, in place of ND. I will give up the outside scoring for the tenacity on the boards, a credible inside threat and the obvious passion and spark. Yes, I know that most of you feel he is better coming in off the bench and I’m aware we need him to back up PAA — but if we need fire and leadership, I think he is the place to look.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 16, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

DG

I am starting to inch towards the camp that we should open up a spot for him in the starting linep at ND’s expense. The problem is I don’t think Howland will agree with either you or me. :-)

DG still has some room to grow in terms of his defense (he is still at times slow in terms of getting back to his position from hedging). And you know how much premium Howland puts on defense. Then again you can say ND has been very slow on D too. Specifically when it comes to providing weakside help and making sure not leaving guys wide open in taking threes.

Practice is going to be very interesting this week.

by Nestor on Feb 16, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can DG adjust to a position change?

I’ve really not thought about that much.

Can he change from the 5 hedge to the 4 double down? I would think the 4 would fit him better.

He came as a 4, right? With JM the 5 of the future?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 16, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DG a starter yes. Energy yes. Leader dont know

I have been posting for awhile that DG should start. He brings ENERGY to the game.

We may be confusing energy with leadership. DC, JS, JH are all “leaders” but they are generally passive players. Not vocal. In control. We needed someone to shake everyone up on Saturday. Sometimes the team just doesn’t have it and it needs someone to wake everyone from their stupor. That is not leadership per se but energy. DG has it. Should have played more.

ML has energy and he should have played more too!

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 16, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Energy is nice

But there are also such factors as shooting, passing, rebounding, defense, and ball control. In those categories, DG is currently inadequate. He seems to turn the ball over every time he touches it, and gets at least one illegal block call per game. That’s just not affordable.

If we played Aboya and Gordon at the same time, the opposing defense can completely sag off our front court!

by bluebland on Feb 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lack of leadership

Nestor, you have penned it correctly. When the team was struggling against both ASU and UA, they just “let it go” rather than someone stepping up on the floor and “making the rest of the team better” with vocal leadership. That is a key ingredient that is missing especially on the road.
Another thought with JS. He may stil be paying the price for the hip operation(s). He appears to try to do things in the middle that don’t get done against tough teams. He is endeavoring to do what needs to be done, but falls down, loses the dribble, gets tied up, etc. I don’t remember back to his freshman year if he had similar issues.
Bill

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by Mensgym on Feb 16, 2009 8:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

JS

I think his previous health issues has certainly impacted him a bit. He is in much better shape than he was last year but he doesn’t have the same agility he had his freshman year.

by Nestor on Feb 16, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A few thoughts

I was at both games (ugh, picked the wrong road trip to go on).

Our on ball defense is not up to Howland standards and that is causing the entire defense to break down much more then it has in previous seasons under Howland (they have to help more, making rotations and closeouts more difficult). We’ve always had “special” defenders that can lock down players without help from teammates (Bozeman, AA, Luc, etc.). We just don’t really have that this year, so guys like Harden and Budinger just kill us. DC is a good defender, obviously, but look at the rest of the lineup as on ball defenders. Holiday struggles and his help/rotations are sometimes awful. Josh has never been a great on ball defender. Dragovich is a Euro. PAA gives max effort but his post defense is technically shaky at times and he was repeatedly sealed off by Jordan Hill.

Our rebounding is not as strong as usual because our 4-spot is not a good rebounder and our center is more like a 4 as far as size and rebounding go. We have been getting killed on the boards at crucial times.

Offensively we’ve been a little worse then it appears. We’ve shot well, but during “tough/important” possessions we struggle because we have no inside game to go to in order to draw the foul. We never seal anybody off. KLove did it last year, but that’s completely gone from the offense. We just never get anyone on our hip for a drop step strong move and I think it really hurts our offense. We are often hesitant in important spots. Nobody seems to really want to take the tough/important shots. I mean, we ran down the shot clock several times late in the game against Arizona down by 8 or 9 points. WTF?

Anyway, those are some random thoughts from someone at the game. I don’t think it’s a
“leadership” problem. I think we are just physically limited defensively and down low and I’m not sure there’s much we are going to be able to do about it this season except take better care of the ball and continue to shoot well.

Oh, and I did see DC get irritated with JH a couple of times. ONe time JH failed in his defensive rotation late in the game and lazily avoided helping out, DC threw up his arms in frustration.

by paulucla on Feb 16, 2009 9:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Last graf is intersting

That’s something hard to pick out from television. I totally agree with you wrt to not having that lockdown defender. Tydides and others have been harping on that point and its a big one.

Hopefully your next UCLA basketball road trip is better Paul.

by Nestor on Feb 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good observations

- Yeah, I saw that display by Collison. Jrue seems to have 2 problems, slow to rotate and doesn’t know when it’s safe to leave his man to gamble on D. It’s a learning process and he should continue to improve.
- Rebounding is just average, as you say. How many times this year have you seen teams play volleyball on our defensive end – even some of the early cupcakes were doing that to us.
- Leadership may not be the only or even major problem, but I agree that it is a problem with this team. The last really obvious strong on-court personality was Jordan Farmar. Josh has it, but I’ve long felt that Josh too often negates his positives with poor decisions – that really hurt us yesterday, despite his scoring. I wonder if Ben Howland’s strong personality and his energetic non-stop involvement in the game, no matter the score subtly, becomes a significant “leadership” element for his teams. Does it become something that the players kind of rely on, whether they know it or not?

by mplsbruin on Feb 16, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This Team

really needs the “Let’s Go!” guy…the guy who gets a little mad at his own teammates during the game and elevates his own play at the same time he’s badgering them a bit to snap out of it. That guy who refuses to intellectualize losing, not because he can’t, but because he hates losing so much.

I suspect DG may have to be that guy, ready or not. (DC needs to be DC, he can’t be DC and RW.)

I wrote of my concerns before the Arizona game that the loss to Arizona State may have left these guys discouraged, and I’m not convinced that it didn’t have an impact. I don’t see these guys shaking it off completely when they lose.

I still love this team, and I believe in them. They’re my team, no matter what.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 16, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not Easy To Replace Love, The Prince & Westbrook

As a Typical Spoiled Bruin Fan who never saw a UCLA loss in person for 8 years despite going to most of the home games starting in 1967, the last couple of games were hard to take. But thankfully Steve Lavin broke me to a great extent of my unrealistic expectations for UCLA basketball.

Howland has begun to spoil me again somewhat, but I think I now have a better understanding of the nature of college basketball today. It just is really, really hard to stay on top when you keep losing top underclassmen to the NBA. You just can’t reload every year. Nobody can do it, not even the great Coach K or Coach Williams. Florida didn’t even make the tournament the year after winning back to back championships. That’s why Howland’s 3 straight Final Fours is such an outstanding achievement.

 I’m not saying they won’t do it again this year, but at this point there has been no replacing the defense and rebounding of Luc Richard, the rebounding and scoring of Love and the all-around game of Russell Westbrook. Our seniors are good solid players, but there is a reason why they are still on our team and not on an NBA roster. And as for our freshmen, they are like most freshmen in that they are not ready to step in and take charge. Love was a real anomaly in that regard. Jrue may turn out to be a really good NBA player and if he sticks around he may be a great Bruin player next year, but he hasn’t had the impact of a Kevin Love. It would be unreasonable to expect that he would.

So, to paraphrase from Dennis Green, “we are who we thought we were!” To the credit of the organizers of this site, I think that the prognostications as to how this team would do have been pretty much right on. There are still a number of games to play and opportunity for improvement. This team may still make a run, but if we wind up short of the Final Four, that’s just the way things are in today’s college basketball. We have another good recruiting class coming in and hopefully all of the fine freshmen will stick around. Coach Howland gives us about as much chance as possible to consistently challenge for a banner.

by bruin7982 on Feb 16, 2009 5:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

One thing this team has in common with all 3 prior Howland Bruin teams...

They do not quit. That is a big reason it is great to be a Bruin fan. We’re not quitting on them and we should honor whatever they can accomplish this year.

by mplsbruin on Feb 16, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

"Might be in a position to have... special senior day?"

Is there a question as to whether this will be a special senior day? Based on the usual BN standards, where we don’t have a “championship or else” bar, I don’t see how this could be anything other than a special senior day.

DC could so easily have turned pro, but came back.
JS has battled through hip operations to represent his school.
PAA graduated with his BA but came back.

And these 3 were here during the final 4 runs.

I think they deserve our tribute on senior day regardless of how this season plays out.

by islandbruin on Feb 17, 2009 6:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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