The Media Attacks on Coach Ben Howland and the Real UCLA Fan Base
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
This started on a comment under Nestor's frontpage post and got so long that I'm posting it here so as not to clutter his space.
I'm tired of being spoken for. I am a member of the Bruin fan base and I speak for myself. And, what I have to say is not hard to find by anyone who really wants to take the pulse of Bruindome.
In a like manner, I'm sure that most of you are tired of being misrepresented, too. Misrepresented by the attention seekers, be they morons, MSM trolls hoping some controversy will keep the rat readers from abandoning ship, or the lizard announcers trying to re-write history.
What we are seeing in the press is really a battle for who owns the right to speak, with authority, and legitimately for the real Bruin fan base.
This battle for legitimacy ought to be fought over the definition of the UCLA "fan base". Once the group is properly defined, then it can speak for itself.
Claiming to write for the "fanbase", without defining or proving that one either represents it or is even in touch with it, is writing hollow words. And, that's what these morons, columnists, and lizard announcers do. Without providing bona fides or a reason to verify that they are speaking for the "fanbase" -- they create profiles of us that are far from true.
They present us as a whining, sniveling group of ingrates whose only interest is in hanging banners and who are about to put CBH on the hot seat.
As Nestor properly points out on the front page -- nothing could be farther from the verifiable truth. I strongly support Nestor's conclusions, however I have one small quibble with his post:
In it, Nestor says:
"The UCLA community is no longer dominated by certain segement of the fanbase who perhaps did get spoiled during the glorious run of Coach John R. Wooden."
I don't know what that "segment" is, but I can tell you that those of us who were there for the start of the run and stayed close to the program during its duration and that part of Coach's career were never complacent, spoiled, or intolerant of losses.
Perhaps that is because we got to live the pyramid and judged the team by whether it was living and playing in a manner consistent with Coach's principles. And, we, better than anyone, knew that he never measured success in terms of wins and losses. In my senior year, (the 1965-66 basketball season) we went 16-8 and did not go to the tournament. There was no whining or tears. We deeply appreciated the effort put forth by our team -- a team that reflected Coach and his values. We were proud Bruins. So, I think it a bit unfair to talk of a fan base spoiled by Coach's success. Perhaps, a more apt way of putting it is that if anything, we (old and young) are a fan base "spoiled by" Coach's teachings. It's not about wins and losses to us -- it is much bigger. It's about effort and integrity. And, that is why we were probably the most vocal critics of the lizard and his ilk. We did not criticize him for losing -- as much as he would like to believe we did -- we criticized him for the way he coached/taught and the way he represented our school.
I'm sure that was more painful for him, because it was more personal -- so to handle it, the lizard and his followers created the myth of the "winning is everything" fan base. And, the lazy press has bought into it. None of us who know this program, its history, its traditions and its builder have been critical of The Caretaker or threatened him with a hot seat if he does not win a banner or go to the Final Four this year. That is a fiction created by the press and sustained by its "unnamed sources" or the morons it marches out to represent us, the real base. And, there will always be those morons -- little people who grasp for attention by saying outrageous things to get their names in print. They troll here and become "unnamed sources" for the MSM. I don't fault the morons. But, I do fault the MSM that quote them, use them as "sources" and exploit them to create controversy where none exists. The real fan base? The people who value Coach for his teachings, not his banners. The people who can name players, know the difference between a zone and man defense, understand the importance of the jump stop, can criticize our play in an analytic manner without regard to whether we've won or lost -- people who know this program and the foundation upon which Coach built it -- that's how I'd define the fan base. And, then there is the "player base". Over the years, Coach's players have made clear the positive impact he had on their lives -- both professional and personal. Can you imagine JF, AA, LRMM, KL, RW or LMR talking about CBH in the same way that past players, especially Barron Davis, have talked about the lizard? The REAL BASE strongly supports The Caretaker. And, that is why the morons and MSM writers cannot create a controversy with attributed sources or real people.
My first inclination is always to ignore the MSM and concern trolls. They are desperate little people craving attention or trying to save their jobs.
They do not speak for any of us who are the Real Fan Base and all of us in the Real Fan Base know that.
CBH knows that and so do his players.
And, to me, we and they are the only audience I care about. I don't know who reads Marcia Smith, Dwyre, Doh! or the others. I don't. And, I doubt that many of the Real Fan base do. Why would we?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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100% Agree
Methods are important. What I learn from CBH are fundamental life lessons that apply to business, parenting, interpersonal relationships, etc. like:
1. Don’t make excuses. Take the high ground.
2. Pay attention to details. Perfect practice makes perfect.
3. Honor and integrity before everything else.
4. Recruit character and talent not talent only.
5. Don’t attack the refs. Even if they are SPTR. Because that is an excuse. (this may not be a universal opinion on BN :))
6. Do what’s best for the student not what’s best for you. (how many bosses, or heck, even parents don’t do this…)
7. Always compliment the other team, showing sportsmanship.
8. Take responsibility and learn from your mistakes.
9. There is no such thing as a shortcut.
I could go on and on. But 66 you are spot on, the reason the fan base got upset is because these types of principles (perfectly embodied by Coach Wooden) were not in place. We could get fourth in the Pac-10 this year and we would be happy if CBH was doing everything he could. Personally I have very high hopes for our team but that is because I believe in CBH’s process, and the details he goes through.
by glassbruin on Feb 2, 2009 8:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely Agree
I’m tired of being misrepresented. I love our team and coaching staff…and I wouldn’t trade them for anyone.
Go Bruins.
by hicalliber on Feb 2, 2009 9:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
AMEN!!!
I totally agree.
Does anyone long for the Lavin et al days? NO!
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
by HoozierDaddy on Feb 3, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right On, '66.
I’ve never “cottoned” well to others thinking they can speak for me, regardless, and I certainly wouldn’t pick any of those mouth-breathing morons to do so.
My trust in CBH is absolute—he is the finest of caretakers for Coach John Wooden’s program; there are countless examples—both on-court an off— of the upstanding, accountable, sportsmanlike attitude we expect from our student atheletes and our coaches.
What I “expect” is a team I can be proud of, win or lose. I expect that because it’s UCLA. Coach Ben Howland has never disappointed me.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 2, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Amen, 66.
While I assume the players and coaches do indeed read the sports section of the LAT or Daily Bruin, the attention and support they are in most direct contact are students, alums, faculty, etc.
Rest assured these players and coaches get all the support and praise they deserve when they walk around campus or get a bite in Westwood. These guys are appreciated and they see it everyday.
Before the season I walked into Sandbag’s sandwich shop around Westwood Blvd and Kinross. Coach Howland was sitting at a table closest to the door. I happened to have one of my regional champions t shirts on from the year before, and before I could say anything coach told me “nice shirt.” Of course I thanked him and gave him some words of encouragement for the upcoming season. He even waved on his way out. All around class act. He loves being here, he loves being a Bruin, and I think he understands where the real fan base lies. Bruin basketball exists because the university exists. And anywhere across this campus, he sees nothing but love. Anonymous submissions to Dohns blog and bitter letters to the LA Times I can only assume affect our Bruins far less than the support they see everyday.
by mdjohns4 on Feb 2, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great post 66
As far as my comment re. fanbase who were around during Coach’s run, I will take your word over my speculation. Thanks for helping push back on this bs.
by Nestor on Feb 2, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How Can Anyone argue with success?
The Cal and Stanford games were beautiful to watch. The effort from the players was over the top. That comes from coaching. You never saw that kind of dedication under the Prince of Penzoil.
Does anyone know why we have a 10:00 a.m. tip-off against Notre Dame on Saturday at Pauley? Sheeesh! Why give the Irish an edge?
by bruin75 on Feb 2, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks 66
Count me as another of this fanbase who is quite happy with our basketball program. CBH is awesome and his student athletes continually represent us and our alma mater quite well.
by popopapa on Feb 2, 2009 7:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bravo
Thank you 66 and glassbruin for making very good points that I also personally believe. The players and coach they learn from make me so proud to be a bruin. And like said before true UCLA fan’s know how special our coach really is. Here is a quick story.
I was at a local golf course one day about 5 years ago or so, on my way to the driving range to work on my slice. While walking out of the clubhouse I looked up and a man said to me: “Nice hat” (we were both wearing our UCLA hat’s) I said thank you, you too! I then said you look very familiar.. I go to a lot of UCLA events and I’m sure I have seen you before…. He smiled and said “Basketball”.
DBalter
by westwood12003 on Feb 2, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We all agree, here...
BUT… (I just posted something similar to this on Nestor’s previous post)
I think we need to consider whether there is any real harm from the crap that the MSM puts out in its efforts to make something out of nothing.
I don’t fall for Dwyre’s misrepresentations. 66 is too smart (well, for everything, really) to believe anything Marcia Smith writes. We know what Fox thinks of Doh! and every announcer on TV. Nestor calls out members of the MSM on at least a weekly basis. BN knows that we are blessed to have CBH and we support this young developing team.
But as 66 wrote, that’s what the Real Fan Base knows. But what about those outside the RFB? Does it matter what the uneducated LAT readers think? What about East Coast WWL viewers who aren’t close enough to our program to know better? How about a recruit, or his/her parents, who are torn between UCLA and some competitor who is lauded in the MSM?
While Nestor and the managers and sages like 66 bring reason and intelligence and fairness to BN, not everyone reads here. And so I think it’s responsible to consider whether there are ramifications of what is presented in the MSM. And if there are real issues (beyond our disgust with their nonsense), then I think there is an opportunity and obligation for all of us to become a voice on behalf of the unheard vast majority of Bruin fans.
While I would fully support ignoring the BS voiced by the MSM, I also think how Europe ignored, then placated, a certain German chancellor in the mid and late 30’s, thinking he would never really amount to a serious threat. Because if these media morons are hurting our program in any real tangible way, we owe it to CBH, CRN, and every other coach, athlete, student, and alum to shut them the hell up.
(there – now this is a legit internet post with the obligatory Hitler reference)
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on Feb 2, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You make a good point
There was a certain charlatan posing as a football coach a few years ago. The MSM was just yawning and looking the other way, and there seemed to be a growing assumption that UCLA didn’t deserve anything better. Then someone named Dump D… (I still can’t say the name) came along and created the DD website. He took action, with letters to Mr. Guerrero. He solicited contributions from many of us to take out an ad in the DB. He kept the pot constantly being stirred. I do not mean to denigrate the actions of the BN creators and managers and moderators, but their assignment is on a much broader spectrum. DD was a one-issue guy, who shut down the DD site once D was D-ed.
gbruin, maybe you are the guy to start something similar. Be the gadfly to the fishwrap. Write a letter a day, or something like that. Challenge the stupid writing with facts (and you will surely have a lot of people here who will help you do some research.)
It sounds like you are passionate about this subject. I say go for it. Take some action. I’m sure you will have plenty of people who would be willing to follow if you’re willing to lead.
by Fox 71 on Feb 2, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gb, I agree with you about outreach
In another thread, I asked whether anyone had sent response letters to the fishwrap to respond to the morons and Dwyre; and whether someone had written to Smith. I think “someone” should.
Who that someone should be is open to nomination.
However, there is the censorship issue. Doh! won’t allow posts that criticize him or take strong exception to what he reports or the way he reports it.
Streeter was the same way.
That’s the thing about the ‘net — they cannot stop us because we don’t need them.
I prefer to do my writing here. Under Nestor’s thread, I’ve asked exactly how the stuff here gets out to the larger audience. I’d particularly like to know what happens when we “buzz” stuff up.
There is a lot of good work here that could probably be re-purposed to make sure that we are not preaching to ourselves — although, deep in my heart, I know that this is the only real audience with which I want to share my thoughts.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 3, 2009 5:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When a post is "buzzed" up ...
I believe when enough folks “buzz” a post up it gets injected into the “Yahoo! Sports” network … enabling that post to get tons and tons of views. Not to mention the post also gets on the national sports radar.
And yeah it matters if you resort to some strategery in how you write your titles. If you write “CBH” or “SPTR” … it won’t really catch on in google news alerts. However, if you use “Ben Howland” or “UCLA” or “Pac-10” … those words will make the post easily searchable via lot of standard google news alerts germane to those topics.
by Nestor on Feb 4, 2009 5:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
I’ll think more strategically when I create headlines on the posts that I want the outside world to read.
And, I’ll use the Buzz Up feature more often to get some of the really great front page and fan posts you all are writing out to the world.
(I’m assuming someone out there reads the Yahoo Sports Network. I’ll probably take a look myself.)
sjh
by Class of 66 on Feb 4, 2009 6:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
This is one good way to show some support of CBH and the bball team to the masses.
Here’s what I wrote when I hit buzz up for Nestor’s article…
UCLA Fanbase Backs Ben Howland.
Despite a few unwarranted and unsupported musings by local media, the UCLA basketball fanbase is fully behind coach Ben Howland. This year’s squad is not the dominant team that has reached three consecutive Final Fours, but the fans are happy with their play and the development of some key freshmen.
The text is limited to like 300 characters, but it has a link to BN and the referenced article (Nestor’s post). I’m still not entirely clear how others reach this, and will keep looking into it, but if we start showing a unified presence on Yahoo Sports, it’ll help get our point across, and counter the idiots.
I’d suggest that when someone buzzes up to Yahoo Sports, he or she needs to let the rest of us here know, so that we don’t duplicate posts, and so we can go to the buzz on Yahoo and support it there, too. I know, I know, more internet work, but like I said, CBH, CRN, and the athletes deserve that from us.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on Feb 4, 2009 6:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was with you until....
…you made the WAY off base Hitler comparison. I think you need to reassess the situation and retract the reference to Adolf Hitler. It is in poor taste and invalidates your well thought out analysis.
by alcor805 on Feb 3, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's that bad
It seems from the last sentence that he was going for a tongue-in-cheek invocation of Godwin’s Law*.
*As (an internet) discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
by Tydides on Feb 3, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen times twenty
Thanks for saying this so emphatically and so well.
You make many points, and each one is a bullseye.
I’m tired of being spoken for.
Me, too. Me, too. Again and again.
On Saturday, before I had a chance to hit the Mute button, it started with the Lizard’s pre-game reference to the UCLA coach’s chair as “a hot seat,” as though we fans were so shallow as to demand nothing but Ws. As though we fans absorbed nothing of Coach’s wisdom. As though we fans couldn’t possibly understand, let alone embrace, the belief that “Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming.” Notice, no mention of winning in that quotation.
Of course, I recognized the Lizard’s self-serving portrayal instantly, but it struck me right in the bone marrow nonetheless. One hundred percent mischaracterizing, one hundred percent wrong. Knowing that he was continuing in this vein while the sound was off only added to my discomfort. I was annoyed even when he was not onscreen. Just knowing that he was there, mischaracterizing his UCLA experience as a bout with impatient, coach-seat-heating, spoiled, intolerant, effete snobs just rankles me down to my toenails. Even giving the myth-spewers the benefit of the doubt that they’re being lazy, rather than malevolent, doesn’t quell my outrage.
Same thing when I come across articles such as cited by Nestor. As you and N., I am sick and goddam tired of being spoken for.
But, your post is an exception. On these points, you speak for me most articulately. Thanks.
by Bruinut on Feb 2, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I Posted This:
It is simply ridiculous and irresponsible to report that “UCLA’s fanbase” is anything other than 100% supportive and trusting of Coach Ben Howland. He has taken this team back out of the careless mediocrity into which it had fallen under Steve Lavin, and built it back into the consistent, dominant force it deserves to be. Three back-to-back Final Fours, and this year, a freshman class about which other Division I schools may only dream. We have multiple players now making headlines for their NBA teams, including three rookies this year. Coach Howland is not only the very best there is, anywhere, he is the perfect caretaker for what is, and will always be, Coach John Wooden’s program.
I am so sick of the idiots yelling the loudest and having the last word….I couldn’t help it.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 4, 2009 9:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
On The Yahoo Buzz Up
linked above.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Feb 4, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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