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Gut-Check Time

Let's get to the papers first. David Wharton from the LAT reports on the significance of last night's (or for some us early morning) big win:

"This was a gut-check week for us," Coach Ben Howland said. "And we responded to the first half of that gut check."

With the victory, UCLA (20-6, 9-4) moved back into a tie for second place in the conference, a half-game behind Washington. The Bruins play Washington State on Saturday.

"We needed this big win," swingman Josh Shipp said. "For us, it was definitely a momentum booster and a confidence booster."

Wharton went on to list couple of the key factors that figured prominently in our victory:

The game -- Howland had called it the biggest of the year for his team -- figured to hinge on two main issues.

First, the Bruins wanted to control the pace.

That meant getting back in transition defense and shutting down Washington's penetration. It also meant taking opportunities to push the ball upcourt and make some easy baskets of their own.

Which led to the second priority. UCLA needed to put up a decent fight on the glass against the Pac-10's top rebounding team and top individual rebounder in forward Jon Brockman.

I think we did a decent job of holding our own in the rebounding department early on. Still I thought we need to do a much better job blocking out. During the first half I counted at least three instances when Brockman (BTW make sure to watch Tele's clips on Brockman which pretty much speak for themselves) and co. scored on easy putbacks. I am sure that drove Howland a little nuts.

As for controlling the pace even though we pulled out win I think we have to accept the fact that we are a team (at least for this season) which will have problem with faster guards. No doubt DC is a great senior pg and one of the best in the country. I believe both JA and JH are immensely talented freshmen. Yet all of them have serious issues with faster pgs. DC had a very difficult time guarding Thomas and JA was having a nightmarish game (5 TOs) in which he looked nothing like the confident freshmen we had seen just few games earlier this season. I don't think it's a reason for us to get down on our guards. It's a reality we just have to accept for this season. JA will get better. He is only a freshman. JH will develop into something special if he sticks around. He is doing everything he can on and off the court to help us win. As for DC we have gotten so much from him over his four years here that I have nothing to complain about. If he is getting beat by faster guards at times he is still doing everything he can to get us a "W."

As much as we have missing the sure fire scoring ability of KL and the defensive stopper roles of AA and RW, I think the guy who would have really helped us out this year is LRMAM. One of the best attributes of LRMAM was his ability to assume the role of a free safety of Bruin defense. He would be the insurance policy in the paint if the opposing guards were getting through our peremeter defense. We don't have someone like LRMAM anymore at the 4 (even though ND is doing what he can with his athletic ability) to plug that Ben Ball defense. I think it's a reason why we are not getting the defensive stops like we used to and lock down the opponents in previous years.

Still given the circumstanes it was a remarkable effort for our Ben Ball warriors. Last few days we have talked about our team needed to show that it can be mentally tough in close games. Well they held their ground last night when the Huskies made their runs tying up the game (at 55) and closed within 2 in the last few mins of the game. I wish our team could hold on to a lead and keep building on it (just click on "house cats"/"barn cats" tags below to find out what we are talking about). But I think this is the kind of roller coaster experiences we have to get use to this entire season given the defensive deficiencies we have this year.

Now speaking of a remarkable effort I will let Ramona Shelburne from the Daily News report on what took place in the Bruin locker room during half time last night:

A few minutes earlier he'd sat in the Bruins locker room at halftime, waiting patiently while the UCLA training staff tried to find a vein full enough to stick an IV into.

Howland assumed they'd been successful, as did his teammates. Aboya did not correct them.

All week he'd battled the flu, and for most of it, there was real doubt whether he'd be able to play in what was easily the Bruins biggest game of the year.

PAA of course had the money shots last night. He also led the team with example and emotion (loved how he got fired up after that dagger late in the second half) while dealing with Brockman's cheap shots all night long. Plus there was the post moment in the first half when he led the first break running point (looking better than Shaq doing it) and throwing down probably the most thunderous jam in Pauley this season. More from Ramona how rest of our guys appreciated his effort:

By halftime he was spent. So dehydrated, Howland said afterwards, that the trainers couldn't get a vein to stick the IV into.

On the court though, you could tell nothing.

If anything Aboya looked relaxed as he stroked jumpers from all around the perimeter. He finished with 13 points on six-of-12 shooting.

"I couldn't tell a thing," Collison said. "They couldn't get a vein? Wow, I didn't know about that.

"But that's Alfred Aboya, man. He makes injuries, and other people who get sick look stupid. He plays through everything. You don't even know all the things he plays through. We don't even know."

Last year he played with a fractured orbital bone in his eye. A couple months later Harris bounced the ball off his eye. Aboya shook it off.

"He's a warrior man," Shipp said. "Like I said, he's from Africa. They make `em tougher over there."

Nothing more needs to be said about the President. Let's hope we make sure he has vipers, squirrels, whatever he needs to feel better by tomorrow.

Besides PAA, I thought JS had a solid game. He made all of his three point shots. He was money from the FT line. He was also disciplined (no TO) and selective with his shots. If there is a way we can get JS to play steady like that rest of this season it will be a boost for the team.

Over all it was a big win last night. Still we don't have any time to celebrate and be euphoric over it. Whatever momentum we regained last night could be wasted away if we don't play with sustained defensive intensity onf Saturday afternoon against a very well coached Washingoton State team.

As mentioned above our defense is not what it has been in previous seasons. UDub shot 50 percet from the floor last night. Even though we started with a good rhythm on defense early in the game we weren't able to sustain it as our peremeter defense kept breaking down resulting in easy layups. Washington State is one of those teams like ASU which will slow the game down and put premium on offensive execution. We will have to find a way to be alert for 40 mins on Saturday and make sure we are rotating better on defense and not giving up any open looks from the outside.

As we have said time and time again here on BN at this point of the season each game gets bigger. There is really no point in fretting over the big picture stuff such as tourney seeds, conference championships since so much can change from game to game. So let's keep our focus on next game.

Hopefully our Ben Ball warriors can come out, fired up and ready to go for 40 mins on Saturday afternoon, taking their cue from the Warrior President (PAA) on Saturday. It will be gut check time again.

GO BRUINS.

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Great win last nignt. Agree that JS and PAA had excellent performances.

for me the turning point was MR hitting the left handed floater in the key. If I remember correctly Wash had just tied it up at 55 and we had a few key guys resting on the bench. MR stepped up and regained the lead which we never again relenquished. Although sometimes a bit slow on D and maybe overmatched on height, he takes care of the ball and IMO doesn’t get enough shots per game. He was an unsung hero last night.

formerly known as popopapa

by 84 on Feb 20, 2009 7:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am amazed ...

that our guys play with so much composure and never retaliate when hit with cheap shots.

Twice, in two games, Brockman has hit PAA in the face, both looked like fouls to me — neither called — and PAA does nothing. Just walks away. All night Brockman was hitting him in the back and I mean hitting, not just pushing.

They had some pretty nasty fouls on our guys going inside — no reaction.

It is a tribute to CBH that instead of losing our cool, we play better after these moments.

Sometimes my darker side takes over and wishes, just once, that PAA would just push Brockman down, hit him with an elbow or that if one of there buys is fouling hard we would retaliate. My plan would be to have one of our D linemen join the team and play selective minutes, when needed. And,that is why I am not a coach.

We really have classy players. They represent us well.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 20, 2009 7:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm Right There With You, 66

Remember last night I was wishing someone would just knock Brockman on his ass—really hard. Good thing I’m not the coach.

Alfred Aboya is a man—a real man. He has the dignity and charisma of a King. Cheap shots means nothing to him, there is no point in reacting, it is beneath him to do so.

In turn, this must drive unsophisticated thugs like Brockman and Hackett crazy. They can’t get him to play their diminished, shallow game. They must play his, or go away.

We’re so lucky.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 20, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not according to the SPTR's

Remember, PAA got a T in Seattle for something he said with his “african” accent. This in a game where he got his forehead opened on a no-call.

You have so correctly pointed out the class which our players bring to the floor. Go Bruins

by islandbruin on Feb 21, 2009 7:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

PAA channeled his inner Kobe Bryant with the halftime IV, then nailed the HUGE jumper in the final minute to plunge the dagger deep into the heart of the Huskies. He’s the heart and soul of the team.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Aboya

Despite his sickness, he actually matched Brockman in efficiency: 1 assist per turnover, scored every 2 minutes and a few seconds (the difference between the two was 5 seconds), and both rebounded every 2 1/2 minutes or so. Amazing what he did despite being sick. We definitely need to work better on our interior rebounding, blocking out, and interior D though. They’re still getting a lot of high percentage shots off in the paint.

by blinkshot on Feb 20, 2009 8:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good offense beats good perimeter defense

I know that we have had some trouble guarding quick guards in the past (really who doesn’t) but I think Washington’s are an exception more than a rule. All night Overton/Dentmon/Thomas would run along the baseline and then get double picks as they curled to the top of the key where they would get the ball and attack.

I think their efficiency was more to do with Romar putting together a good system which took our two bigs away from the basket (the pics) and left our guards trailing behind the person they are guarding. When you have guards that are as quick as Washington’s and they are getting double pics, there isn’t a player in college basketball that can stay with them. The Washington guards play yesterday was more a testament to why Washington is a good team and not that we have bad perimeter defense.

by bruinponcho on Feb 20, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Collison

Talking heads have questioned whether we have a go-to-guy. Collison took that mantle last night. When UW tied it at 55, Collison took the team on his shoulders, scoring the next hoop on a lay up (UW would never tie again) and 9 of the next 13 Bruin points overall as we built the lead again. DC would score 13 of his 17 points after the 55-55 tie and 13 of our final 30 points. He busted out against a team that has given him fits in his 4 years.

by BruinsRule on Feb 20, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

UW--Monkey off our backs

Going into last night’s game, the Bruins were 2-5 against UW in the last 4 seasons, and 57-9 against the rest of the Pac-10 (including Pac-10 Tourney). A team we had played in less than 9.6% of our games had given us 36% of our losses! We had a 28.6% winning percentage against UW and 86.4% winning percentage against the rest of the league.

No other conference opponent has beaten us more than 2 times in 4 years, with the best record of any other opponent belonging to Arizona State 2-6.

So, not only did we win a tough game that puts us in a virtual dead heat for 1st place, but we also got the monkey (Husky) off our backs. Go Bruins!

by BruinsRule on Feb 20, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Where is the love for JH?

I was at Pauley so have not seen the telecast yet. But in Pauley I felt a little different than many of you (though some of you were probably there with me).

I thought JH had the dagger last night. He only scored 10 points but they all seemed to be momentum changers. He had key steals at key times. All in all I thought he stepped up at critical times.

And, cant wait to watch the video highlights on all the fouls. There were a number not called on us: I remember JS giving a big push to one of their guys under the basket for example.

The biggest concern I have in the game has not been played up yet: the missed shots within the paint (and often within 3 feet). I am not sure but I suspect that we missed more layups than 3 point shots (total and as a percentage). If we had made even a few more of those, particularly in the first half, it would not have been nearly as close. Howland attributed PAA’s to lack of practice and illness. But it was the one thing we did wrong in our 4 game win streak.

Still a great win. Now to kick some Cougar tail!

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 20, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

JH and missed layups

JH had a solid game lat night, but the feeling I got night at Pauley was a lot of frustration with the freshman. (Disclaimer: I am in no way trying to bash them, just giving some observations from last night).

  • JH did have some good layups, particularly the one at the end of the shot clock, but he still made lots of freshman mistakes: telegraphing entry passes, not rotating quick enough, take quick shots in the shot clock.
  • The person next to me last night said “We would be up by 20 if JA wasn’t playing.” While that might not have been true, JA couldn’t have had a worse game if he tried. It was a shame sense he has improved so much over the season to see him revert to the panicky freshman that started the season. Hopefully he will learn from this just as RW did after his terrible game as a freshman against West Virginia.
  • I love the energy that DG brings, but he still gambles way too much on defense trying to steal entry passes instead of just playing solid post defense. There were at least 2 or 3 times that he gambled and Brockman got to the basket (although one of them DG recovered and made the shot difficult for Brockman).
  • ML still is a riddle to me. He has all the makings of a great player and is already a pretty good defender. His problems are 2 fold. First, since he only gets limited minutes he tries to make a splash when he is in there. The antithesis of this is JK who comes in for his limited minutes and does a yoemans job of getting rebounds and solid positional defense. Second, I think ML’s high school days of playing out of position at center have made him uncomfortable on the perimeter. He almost always drives to the basket when he has the ball, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing except that this combined with his eagerness to do something often causes him to put his head down and get tunnel vision to the basket.

As for the missed layups. Yes we missed too many easy shots yesterday. The bad thing is there isn’t much you can do in practice for blown layups other than stressing finishing hard (see “Throw it down big fella”). The good thing is that even with those missed shots, we still pulled out the victory over a very good Washington team. If we start making those, Watch Out.

by bruinponcho on Feb 20, 2009 11:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

ML played center

in high school? Really?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 20, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His team was short

Here is the write up about it. Everyone knew that he was a guard, but his team was short so he volunteered to play center for them.

by bruinponcho on Feb 20, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep about the freshmen in general

This was not their best game generally. Lots of ranting about JA, who has done nicely in other games. I think he had a particularly hard time with the speed of the game. That is a weakness of JH’s too: still throws slow passes and makes tries at steals assuming the game is a little slower than it is.

Freshmen are freshmen: will not always be on (no one is of course).

And WA had special speed at the guard position so it accentuated the problem.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Feb 20, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JM

I would have thought that Morgan would, by now, be in shape and able to contribute. With Brockman as active as he is, it still baffles me that they don’t put JM in for some minutes to clog up the middle if nothing else…..

BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Feb 20, 2009 11:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So...

We lost 4 games (to quote you “oh nooooo”) big deal. If you have been around Bruinsnation at all this season, you would know that we do critique everyone on the team. But we do it in an honest and thoughtful way. Before you decided to take over this thread, you would have been well served to read some past threads and get yourself familiar with reality.

As tasser said, buh-bye now.

by bruinponcho on Feb 20, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

kinda harsh dont ya think?

i don’t agree with much of what phil said, but he made some interesting points. if you disagree with him s be it, i don’t see the benefit of ad-hominem attacks or just characterizing something as rambling or incoherent. i don’t see the reason to be so mean-spirited or feel you have to pounce of someone for being contrarian, but to each his own.

Across The Face

by rb bruin on Feb 20, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I Think

Implying that another poster is using crack, or that their “poncho is too tight” pretty much opens the door on that, myself.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 20, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agree with bruingirl83...

apparently her and i make up a “pollyanna feelgood clique of little girls.” the guy deserves it.

i don’t mind someone being contrarian. hell, even i’ve been warned by nestor before for being a bit over-critical after bad losses, but this guy’s arguments don’t even make sense.

by legallybruinette on Feb 20, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed bg83 and lb

just upon my initial reading of the thread i didn’t feel phil was the one that took it there. once you start calling someone stupid, all hell tends to break loose. i don’t excuse or condone his comments that came later that were equally incendiary and offensive

Across The Face

by rb bruin on Feb 20, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Phil

Phil,

In the future, when you want to make a point, say something like: “Shipp’s assist-to-turnover ratio is pretty low for how often he is on the floor. If we are going to get to be a better team, that is going to need to improve.”

See how easy that is. You make your point, anyone reading it can understand where you are going with it, and we are all better off.

It also might surprise you to know that there are quite a few knowledgeable people here at Bruinsnation who know the game of basketball pretty well. Instead of calling people names and belittling them, engage them on the game. If you want someone to provide more evidence, provide some yourself.

I hope this has been a learning experience for you on your first day here at Bruinsnation. I look forward to reading your insightful basketball commentary in the future.

Poncho

by bruinponcho on Feb 20, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell happened here?

I’m tempted to read it, but our game tomorrow will start before I finish, so…

by Tydides on Feb 20, 2009 10:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What happened here

is Phil_bruin here has slowly begun digging his own grave to the degree that I’ve started my own “Countdown to the Phil_Bruin Ban”. See you later Phil. Can’t say its been a pleasure.

by bruin8uclap on Feb 20, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I knew something was up as soon as I saw there were 100 comments on this thread…

by gradstudentbruin on Feb 21, 2009 1:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Cultural Misunderstanding

To me this is just a classic case of somebody new to Bruins Nation not really understanding the unwritten rules. I don’t post much here but I’ve learned that in order to be welcomed into the fold, you have to phrase things carefully, avoid getting personal, try to stay positive or at least be constructive if you’re going to talk about the negatives (unless you’re talking about Dorrell). Newbies are held to a fairly rigid standard. I’ve been known to be a little critical of this “tight ship” mentality from time to time because I think it shuts down some potentially good debates, but I must admit that it does tend to keep things properly focused and reduces a lot of the petty back-and-forth that you see on other blogs that aren’t policed the same way. That being said, go back and read Phil’s original post with an open mind. It wasn’t really that bad, it was just a critique of one player and his opinion about how much that player should be getting the ball. If you don’t agree or you have a problem with how he worded it, just say so or take some time to inform him of how things work around here. No need to get so animated and personal about it. That’s just asking for what we’ve seen unfold. This whole thing could have gone very differently. To borrow a turn of phrase, we should try to “Disagree without being disagreeable.”

by kballs on Feb 21, 2009 7:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The "tight ship"

is so that morons and trolls don’t just come here to whine and make stupid off-the-cuff comments without backing up what they say. They can do that on the message boards. This site strives for something a little more constructive and intelligent…something worthy of UCLA.

People who get in trouble are those that come in on their first day, rehash things that have been discussed for months, and state their points like everyone here is ignorant (and indirectly, CBH). Go read Phil_Bruin’s first comment and see how it reads.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 21, 2009 9:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agree.

Like I said, a tight ship is good thing. My additional point was that if we want this site to be different from the types of blogs that allow “morons and trolls” and strive for something “worthy of UCLA” then we need to apply that across the board – even when dealing with first-timers that many not understand. It takes two to tango as my mom always said.

by kballs on Feb 21, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We will keep doing

what we have been doing. Honestly we don’t really care about lectures on how to moderate this place. Thanks.

As for philbruin .. considering this your last warning … if you initiate another flame war like that attacking members of this community, you will be gone.

by Nestor on Feb 21, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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