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Bay Area Roadtrip: Reflections After First Game

Coach Howland was relieved and excited after the Bruins' first road win in four tries last night:

The Cardinal built a 14-point first-half lead by making 10 of 11 shots from the field, but UCLA limited Stanford to 14 of 38 from the field the rest of the way.

The Bruins also didn't have a rebound for more than eight minutes to open the game, but finished with a 29-25 edge on the boards.

"What a great comeback win and what a real sign of the heart of our team," Howland said. "Coming into this game we talked about our need to play better defense, and it was tough there. They made tough shots. ... We just had to play out higher on them."

I didn't get to watch the first 10 mins of the game because we got stuck with the finish of Washington State-Arizona. So didn't get to watch how our defense looked to start the game. Seems like numbers pretty much tell the story on what took place. Sounded like the Stanford guys came out all fired up and were beating us with their intensity as we were having the same old problems with slow defensive rotations leading to wide open shots.

FWIW the Bruins did get into the defensive grove after Stanford's torrid start limiting the Cardina to 37 percent shooting (14 for 18) rest of the game. I wonder if the insertion of ML and DG started the defensive spurt. Since I didn't get to watch those first horrid mins, hope you guys can feel me a little more on who made the defensive difference.

It was clear who led the offensive charge and stepped up huge last night:

Shipp led the way, working the glass and attacking the basket, getting started on a game-high 24 points to go with seven rebounds, helping his team cut the deficit to 38-37 at halftime.

"Josh Shipp really stepped up when they were down," Stanford Coach Johnny Dawkins said.

"He took it upon himself to make some plays that gave them momentum at the end of the first half."

Luckily when the game turned on for me ... I got to see JS making the charge. He was on fire and playing with that fearless intensity we have seen from him in huge games. That's the JS we need in games like this instead of the JS we saw against ASU two weeks ago when he was getting flustered and taking stupid fouls when down early on the road. Hopefully we can see more of that same leadership from him on Saturday.

The other guy (I will get to PAA below) who really caught my eye was ML. The more I watch this kid the more I get the AA/RW vibe on the defensive end. He is fearless around the rim and he takes defense personally. His intensity was very clear given the way he was fighting for every rebound. He led the team  finished with 5 board (second behind JS's 7 boards) and was responsible for a huge clutch shot when Stanford was making a run late in the second half. I really want to see more of him at the 2 spot this season and beyond because I think he has the most potential after DG to emerge as the core of next generation of Ben Ball warriors.

Speaking of the core, what else can you say about PAA. Another great game on the road. I am getting to the point that I think he has probably been the MVP of the UCLA basketball team this year. I shudder to think where we would (fighting for an 8 seed) if he had decided to go back to Cameroon after last year. We know in Coach Howland's program leaders emerge from playing defense. And in this team it's PAA who brings the defensive intensity and all out tenacity around the rim every game. It's also clear that he is emerging as a clutch player. He had that huge jumper against UDub last Thursday night and last night he helped us seal the game by calmly draining 4 FTs in the closing mins.

Now there are few things from last night that are bugging me. We already talked about the slow defensive start. That is not going to work on Saturday against one of the best back courts in the Pac-10 (Randle/Christopher). Bears will bury us early just like Zona if come out with the same defensive intensity on Saturday night.

It was also disconcerting to see how indecisive we looked in two straight offensive possessions during the closing mins of the game. Before PAA bailed us out with 4 FTs we had a chance to put the dagger in. Up by 5 pts with less than 3 mins, DC had a chance to drive to the bucket and take Stanford guard off the dribble. Instead he passed off the ball to ND to take a desperate 3 pointer with shot clock running down. Same thing happened a posession later when once again it was ND taking jump shots with games on the line. I think DC as a "leader" of this team (if he wants to be remembered as a leader in the mold of AA, Ed O as discussed ad nausea this week) he needs to have the situational awareness that it's his team and he needs to take those shots. I don't think we want UCLA to be in a situation in which we have live and die by ND's three point bombs.

As Dohn notes it was not our jump shots but our attacking the rim that allowed us to get ahead in the second half:

The decisive spurt was quick, and came from UCLA's perimeter players making plays inside.

Malcolm Lee made 65-61 with a layup, Holiday scored on crafty leaner and Shipp followed up a miss of Darren Collison's shot as the Bruins went ahead 69-61 with 4:35 to play.

Stanford closed to within 72-69 on a pair of free throws by Fields. Dragovic fouled out with 41.4 seconds left, as Goods made one of two free throws. But Aboya cemented the win with two free throws with 14 seconds remaining to give the Bruins a 74-70 lead.

So I hope our guys keep thinking about going inside and attacking relentlessly.

Lastly, I think we need more focus on the offensive side of the ball. We blew at least three layups last night on fast break opportunities when it appeared we were more focused on making SportsCenter highlights then making the easy layup. It wasn't the first time we have seen this phenomenon with our team this year. Perhaps it has to do with the fact there are so many freshmen in this team and upperclassmen who are still getting used to playing leadership roles. Still if we keep that up we will pay for it dearly as we have already done few times this season.

The challenge now becomes whether the Bruins can come out with the same defensive intensity and effort they showed after the initial minutes against Stanford. We have talked over and over again while our guys need to stick with the basics it is all about getting in that even keel mindset. The Bears are going to be fired up to make a statement on national TV on Saturday night. They have the offensive firepower to inflict heavy damage on our defense (Cal is currently 3rd in the conference in scoring avg. per game behind UDub and UCLA). Their problem is their depth as they don't have a lot of options beyond their starting five. Yet our guys shouldn't take any kind of comfort in that factor given the way Arizona destroyed us with not so deep bench last two weekends ago.

So it will be all about the kind of mindset the Bruins come out on Saturday night. Let's hope they come out with more focus and then sustain it in the last true road game of this season.

GO BRUINS.

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ML did have 5 boards, but JS led the Bruins with 7

by islandbruin on Feb 27, 2009 6:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Relief & A little pride

The shocking stanford start took shook our stride, but our courageous clawing comeback carried us into the right column ("Win"). Congrats to this team for a well-deserved win.

I have critique fatigue, so I won’t go into the many negatives last night (and pointed out by Nestor above—I truly feel for Collison). At the end of the day we got a tough win in a hostile environment which used to be automatic losses for us just 5 years ago. I will take the win, period.

Go Bruins.

by rfirpo on Feb 27, 2009 7:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

im just glad we won

Much needed win. Now, however, we need to focus on playing with the same defensive intensity all 40 minutes of teh game. Cal shoots 3’s really well so we can’t get burned in the same manner

by blinkshot on Feb 27, 2009 7:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A very telling and scary stat

I saw this stat in the post-game show on FSN

In the Pac-10 two-game series, Coach Ben Howland is 42-7 in the first game and 25-21 in the second…or something to that effect. That is bizarre. Did anyone else see this? Any thoughts?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 27, 2009 9:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yep, makes sense

we hadnt lost a thursday game in a long time until this year

by blinkshot on Feb 27, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that

We were 39-7 in the first game (now 40-7). In 2006 through 2008, we didn’t lose a single Thursday night game. The only one we’ve lost this year was at ASU.

by BruinsRule on Feb 27, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

so why do you think that is? I would have to put this squarely on Coach Howland’s shoulders…perhaps he still hasn’t gotten used to the 1 day break between games? I think they get 2 days in the Big East?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a bit of blame on everyone

CBH is obviuosly responsible for preparing for the next game regardless of the break between the games and preparing for his team for it.

The team is responsible for showing up to play regardless of fatigue as the other team would be fatigued as well.

And it’s inevitable that teams are more likely to lose the Saturday/Sunday matchup as it’s usually the more marquee game for TV ratings, and due to the aforementioned fatigue

by blinkshot on Feb 27, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

also wanted to add

This isnt very scientific, but it is of note that during the ncaa tournament, some of our hardest matchups and close-calls during each run have come in the 2nd round (Alabama, Indiana and Texas A&M)

by blinkshot on Feb 27, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is purely overpreparation for the first game,

and not enough time or underpreparation for the second game. Maybe CBH really just focuses heavily on the next opponent and never looking past that game. Gets one day to practice essentially. That is very concerning considering this Sat. is on the road.

I bet those stats would be very ugly if broken down to Saturday road games vs. home games. Likely a losing record on Sat. road games.

I said at the beginning of the year that Cal was underated and made me nervous. They are well coached, clearly, and have the talent to respond to that coaching. UCLA must respect them and as many pointed out come out and apply extensive ball pressure to disrupt their shot and passing lanes. That is not what happened last night at Rosco Maples Pavilion. Their was little ball pressure early in the game and very little off ball defensive intensity. The result was open lanes, and open 3’s which the trees took advantage of. It is my opinion that ML/DG changed things with their intensity. Another guy that gets very little credit is MR. He seems to play very smart, rare turnovers, good passes and good shot selection. He got a couple key rebounds and played intense D during the stretch where we turned the table on them.

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by 84 on Feb 27, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

and I think that is a bit of a failure on CBH’s part. It would be one thing if it was just this team that struggled on Saturdays, but it seems as though it has been the case for all his teams. So I cannot agree at all with blinkshot’s theory of fatigue and marquee games (where he kind of disagrees with himself anyway!).

I’m definitely not one to call out CBH on anything, but I think this is certainly something worth looking into.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 27, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Poor logic, in my opinion

The fact that we’ve been (near) perfect on mid-week games the last 4 years only bolster’s Howland’s coaching value without detracting from it. It means that when Howland’s had time to prepare, we’ve been nearly perfect. With no time to prepare, the usual coaching advantage has been lessened. No way to avoid that.

When the coaching advantage is lessened, the deciding factors return to talent/home court/etc. It’s only logical that we’d be less than perfect in that case.

If a football coach had an undefeated record after bye-weeks, I don’t think you can use it to indict his coaching for other games.

by bluebland on Feb 27, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MR

Totally agree with you re. MR. I have always maintained MR is somewhat underappreciated. Everyone notes his three point shooting but its the little things you point out matters more.

by Nestor on Feb 27, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First 10 minutes

A tip for anyone who is missing parts of our games: get direct tv with the sports package. There’s always a channel that is showing UCLA games from start to finish. I get the sports package from November through March every year, and not only do I get the UCLA games, but I also saw the ending of Cal-USC and UW-ASU.

That being said, those who missed the first 10 minutes last night were fortunate. I’d say we came out on defense thinking that we were playing intense, but we weren’t intense. First play, ND falls asleep and Owens went backdoor for an easy slam. Later, PAA was guarding Hill on the perimeter, but he wasn’t exactly in his jersey, and Hill popped a 3-pointer without any interference. Mitch Johnson got into the lane as DC was being lazy and found an open teammate for an easy lay in. Goods did his typical UCLA-bashing with a couple of dribble in, pull back and pop, nothing but net. At one point, they were 11 for 12, with the only miss being a blocked shot by Holiday … that went out of bounds and they scored easily on the inbounds play. We tended to be in good position on most of the shots, but we didn’t react quickly enough to challenge their shots. JH was an example of this: he didn’t let Goods go around him, but he was playing conservatively and not in not position And they were all clearly fired up and shooting well.

I can’t remember everyone who was on the court when we picked up the defense, but I do recall that DC had an extra spring in his step, and he was picking up Mitch Johnson earlier and making him somewhat uncomfortable. When he puts pressure on the point guard, the rest of the team seems to follow his lead and play with more urgency. DC had some lapses in the 2nd half, but his energy changed the tone.

ND’s defense was especially poor last night. And I’m not even considering the foul on Hill’s 3-point attempt. That was an egregious error by the official, who bought Hill’s fall-to-the-floor acting job.

by BruinsRule on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also

ND committed some ridiculously unnecessary fouls that gave them and-1’s iirc. And this is like the 3rd or 4th consectutive game I saw a 3 point shooter get fouled for 3 shots at the line too.

That said, after 10 mins, our defense was definitely more in the face of the defenders and more aggressive as well.

Good point about DC harassing the point guard and making a difference. The games we’ve lost, he had poor defensive nights (Wise, Thomas/Overton/Dentmon, Rochestie, etc.). Whether he’s playing it conservative and avoiding foul trouble or not, he hasnt been the same caliber defender we’ve been used to. With increased depth at the 1 this year, I think he should take a few more chances

by blinkshot on Feb 27, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing the difference from year to year.

This time last year, we were lamenting JS for settling for 3s, seeming lost or tunnel-visioned on offense, and letting that affect him on both ends of the floor.

NOW? JS is probably making the smartest decisions on O as to slow down the pace; when to pull up for a rhythm 3; and, possibly most important, when to drive, pull out when defenders converge, and then go right back at the defender with a change of direction to keep the defense off balance and score points inside.</strong>

DC used to do that VERY effectively last year. Stab at the D, pull out real quick, and then go right back at them.

Now, it seems like as soon as DC gets doubled coming off the screen, or as soon as ANYONE shfits a cross the lane and reduces his 8-foot wide path to the basket down to a 4-foot wide path, he pulls the ball back out without trying again until 2-3 swing or skip passes later.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Josh has to lead now

Good points M. I think a huge reason for Josh’s turnaround is that he needs to be an offensive leader on this team. In previous years, he could rely on AA and KL to make up a good part of the offense. Now, he has to be more involved in the offense, and also involve others more. I’m not sure I can explain DC’s almost regression from last year to this year. He doesn’t seem confident driving in the lane and hasn’t been entirely effective at finishing when he does.

The points about leadership and attitude remind of that line from Remember the Titans, “Attitude reflects leadership, Captain.”

by Kerckhoff405 on Feb 27, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maples Pavillion Place

We live nearby and decided to get a babysitter and check this one out. My first impression was that the crowd was “late arriving.” My next impression was that, after Stanford went out to their two touchdown lead at 24-10, the crowd was non-existent . . . save for the “left-right-left” chant that they pirated from us when ND fouled out at the end. However, the thing that impressed me the most about last night was the number of bruin fans spread throughout the arena and even at some of the local watering holes . . . good job bruins!

by charnaw on Feb 27, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks To BN

I only got to watch the last 15 minutes of this game, I’d just gotten home, both my husband and I have been sick, and I was trying to do three things at once so…I think reading the game and post-game threads really helped me get a better sense of it. I was thinking, (from the box score), how did they disrupt DC’s shooting quite so much? Three for nine, and only one 3-pt attempt? N., you described DC just flat -out passing up a couple of shots..did he do this throughout the game, or is it more the scenario M. describes each time?

Personally I don’t think I will ever get used to teams getting big leads on us at the beginning of the game—it just kills me, especially when it seems like our defense is a couple of beats behind the play every time the opposing team gets the ball, which is what that “first ten minutes” you all describe sounds like.

Obviously the big props for JS are deserved, and it gives me some extra satisfaction when he carries a game like this, because of all the “Shipp-bashers” that came out of the woodwork last season. And, it’s all being said about our wonderful PAA, The Man. It’s so fun to watch him being clutch at the end of a game—I love the look in his eyes.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Feb 27, 2009 10:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i thought our freshmen guards did a nice job last night

lee was great on the boards and defensively. jrue i thought played well and wouldve had a swell game had the fouls not racked up on him and anderson got back to that steady backup pg we got to know early on in the season.
really liked seeing nd post up some and actually get the ball there to expose mismatches there. got a couple easy buckets and foul calls there.
js has been an enigma to me all year and it was great to see him carry this team last night. he gets into trouble when he plays out of control and yesterday for the most part he played within himself and the ball was going in. we really needed it too. plus he’s had some big games but if i remember correctly they were big first halfs- he tends to disappear in the 2nd. last night most of his damage was done in the second half or at least i noticed him alot more which i HOPE carries over.
dc is looking uncharacteristically indecisive lately. he dribbles around way too much when they set up iso’s for him and when we take a bogus 3pt shot at the end of a shot clock it is on account of this often times. this and his inability to feed the post are the most frustrating thing about the bruin O. he needs to get back tro that carefree attacking style we’ve grown to expect from his ballerness.
and i thought, again DG was a great emotional leader last night- even as a freshman who really isn’t getting much time. you can tell he’s gonna be a bruin fan fave soon. even though obo didn’t play i saw some shots of him on the bench and he was really engaged in the game and i found that really promising

Across The Face

by rb bruin on Feb 27, 2009 11:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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