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We All Need To Settle Down A Bit

I think we all need to settle down a bit.

I am just as ecstatic as anyone here on BN on what has been going on last four games. We are seeing signs of a team gelling and coming together. We are seeing signs of a team in which all the components are developing a definite understanding of their respective roles within the scheme Coach Ben Howland. We are seeing more intense hustle and defensive effort reminding us of the trademark Ben Ball defense . Yet despite all the noticable improvements people should chill a bit and drop the talk of Final-4 and national championships ... for now.

To be fair I have not seen that from BN members who have been around for a while. Coach Howland himself uncharacteristically is not being shy of being effusive with praise of his warriors. From the LA Times:

Timing matters to a team that hopes to burnish its image after some high-profile loses this season. And if this was a statement game, Coach Ben Howland wasn't afraid to say the words.

"If we continue to play relatively the same way we're playing now, we are definitely one of the best teams in the country," he said. "We're playing right now how we were ranked going into the season, which is a top-five team."

Coach Mike Brey, who has seen plenty of top-ranked teams in the powerful Big East Conference, did not argue.

"They are up there with any other team in our league," Brey said. "Their speed, size and strength match the top teams in our conference."

The question remains: How much will a victory over the Irish, who have skidded down the rankings with seven consecutive losses, ultimately help UCLA when it comes to the RPI and Associated Press poll?

On Saturday, Howland and the players seemed content with the symbolic value.

And the Daily News:

After throttling Notre Dame, a straw poll with Howland and several players concluded there is very little the Bruins are doing wrong. The biggest question is whether UCLA is taking advantage of a weak stretch in the schedule, not to mention home cooking, to flex its muscle.

The Bruins' four-game wining streak has been at home, with wins over Pacific-10 Conference opponents California, Stanford and USC, before sending the Big East's Irish (12-10) to their seventh straight loss.

Still, I think we need to be very careful. I think we should be optimistic but be mindful of the fact about the two difficult roadtrips we still have to finish this Pac-10 regular season. All the progress we have made last two weeks will not matter much if we fall into the old habit (from earlier this season) of settling for jumpshots, not being aggressive against zone defense, letting the opponents outhustle us for rebounds, and letting down our tenacity on the defensive end. We are going to find out exactly where we are when we take on an ASU team on Thursday night who will be ready with a tough zone defense that bottled us up during the closing mins earlier this season in Pauley.

Still despite my dousing cold water on yesterday's party, we have a lot to be ecstatic about. Not sure how much more I can add to all the much deserved adulation we have heaped towards PAA in last 24 hours. So I will let Coach Howland pile on the admiration for PAA:

"He's the best defensive player in the Pac-10," Howland said. "He's one of the best defensive players in the country."

Aboya was instrumental in holding Notre Dame All-American Luke Harangody to five points in No. 15 UCLA's 89-63 defeat of the Irish on Saturday.

However, Aboya's effort may get overlooked because he doesn't have gaudy statistics to augment his positional play, toughness and tenacity. He did not block a shot nor record a steal in 27 minutes, and is tied for seventh on the Bruins with five blocked shots this season. His 17 steals ranks fourth on the team.

"Usually, people look at defense that don't understand it and say, `Well, if you get a lot of steals, you're a good defender. If you block a lot of shots '," Howland said. "That may be true to a certain extent, but his defense is absolutely incredible. (His) relentlessness, in Alfred's case, is the best I've ever had as a coach. He is relentless."

I can't think of a highest honor for Ben Ball warrior. He basically just placed PAA's defensive ability over that of AA and RW.

What I will say though is kids like JMM and DG should pay extremely close attention to what is going on with PAA. I know I have been reading a lot of chatter about people being concered about JMM's playing time this season. If there was any doubt about Howland and his staff's ability to develop bigs, that should be quashed definitively after this season given what we have seen from PAA and what we had seen from RH few years ago. To me what we are seeing from PAA is what we saw from RH in 05-06 except we are seeing it a little earlier. The incredible development in their games are unmistakable and is yet another testament to the abilities of what IMHO is the best head coach and staff in the country. What we need from PAA is just to keep at it from the defensive side, keep leading by example with his all out tenacity on defense and around the boards. I will be honest, I still cringe when he takes those midrange jumpers and I still want him to throw it down with authority (instead of laying it in) when he gets close to the rim, but I can't complain much given the defense and intensity we are getting from PAA. Amazing stuff really.

Speaking of amazing, I liked this - defense for 40 mins:

"They just played defense for 40 minutes and just took it away from us," Brey said.

The Bruins (19-4) set the tempo early when Nikola Dragovic blocked Harangody's dunk try, a play that shook the drowsiness out of Pauley Pavilion.

Shortly thereafter, UCLA double-teamed Harangody, which can be a risky proposition. The 6-foot-8 forward is an adept passer and has burned more than one opponent kicking the ball to an outside shooter.

But this time, Dragovic and Aboya forced him to lob a weak pass toward half court. Guard Jrue Holiday made the steal, took off on the transition and floated a pass that Josh Shipp dunked with one hand.

Nothing prettier than deadly Ben Ball defense leading to relentless attacks on offense. Speaking of offense here was DC in the Press Enterprise:

"I've never had as many easy baskets in transition," he said, pointing to freshman Holiday's career-high seven assists. "It's what happens when you have two point guards out there."

Let's talk about JH a bit. We should just call him "the natural." You can just sense how he is coming out of his freshmen shell and starting to take charge of this offense. Some of his passes yesterday reminded me of Magic. He zips them - on target, hitting his team-mates exactly in stride - in a way that is not normal for an excellent pg. It's not something we are going to see very often like those Kevin Love's Wess Unseld like bombs. JH is truly a special athlete and we are lucky to have him. I am not sure how long he is going to stick around (I am hoping and praying he comes back but will not be hurt if he decides to go) but I am starting to enjoy him the way I was enjoying watching KL. It's something special.

Another guy I want to single out today is ND. I mentioned yesterday how it was his block that set the tone for the entire morning yesterday. I think ND is emerging as potentially more than just a role player. He is emerging as a true Ben Ball warrior. He is giving us lot more than just a long range scoring option. He is playing defense  and running the floor almost as well as any of his team-mates. He is also under-rated IMHO as a passer. Yes, I think he needs to cut down on the flashy stuff (sometimes he tries stunts like behind the back passes which drives me crazy) but he is pretty good in finding team-mates cutting to the basket. I have been really enjoying watching ND last few games. Hopefully he sticks with it by playing defense and contributing on offense within the flow of the game.

While we are playing like one of the best teams in the country now, it's a long season which goes through its ebb and flows. We need to stay even keeled and continue to keep building on our steady improvements. We did a great job of cutting apart the Irish zone yesterday. Hopefully we can stay just as sharp and effective on Thursday night when we go up against what I believe will be a much tougher zone thrown by the Sun Devils on Thursday night.

So, in closing, I think I will say it again. We need to settle down and chill a bit and not get too carried away thinking about what is going to happen in March. Let's take it one game at a time while we enjoy the development of our warriors.

GO BRUINS.

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Nestor...

…heaping praise on ND? I never thought I’d see the day! Kidding, kidding…but I agree with everything you said. Our season will be defined by how we finish out, particularly on the road. I’m really looking forward to the ASU game…I live in Phoenix, so I’m trying to get tickets.

Go Bruins.

by hicalliber on Feb 8, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

Spot On -- Nestor

We are exactly where we need to be. We are playing our best ball of the season both as a team, and for most of the players, as individuals.

But, as thrilled as I am about where we are, I am mindful of where we have yet to go. Right now, we have a one game season — we have to beat a very tough ASU team at its home.

And, as thrilled as I am with our play in the last few games, I think one thing is clear, we’ve beaten teams that don’t play much D. Not that we could not have beaten them had they played tough D, but they didn’t so I take less comfort in the large margins of victory. (No offense intended to Gody, who may well be a top 5 pick for POY, but I don’t see it — he plays no D at all, none. In our eyes, D is beautiful and critical if one is to become a POY.)

The big differences on our side of the ball:

We are finally playing 40 minutes of D. We are starting to play like barn cats, building leads instead of giving them up. We all know that it is our D that fuels our O. We have scored more because we’ve played much better D and have gotten some transition baskets.

We are shooting our FT’s better.

We are going inside — not relying as much on the outside shot — and, therefore, getting better outside shot opportunities.

JH is asserting himself a little more — taking pressure off DC.

We are getting senior play from our seniors — smooth and in control, all to the team’s benefit.

ND and MR are playing very well.

The kids are growing up right before our eyes. JA and ML are so confident and smooth, DG is outright ferocious, and Bobo shows his tremendous promise.

(My only concern is that JK, maybe because he isn’t getting the minutes, seems to be less effective as a shooter and a step slower than he was on D. Or, that may be that Drago has stepped up and the contrast is greater.)

Yet, we have two difficult road trips ahead and I think it better to — as my mother used to say — “not count our chickens before they hatch.”

I want to win out — all the way win out. But, I think it wise to look at one game at a time. And, if we lose, we still have a one game season. Winning will be nice. Losing will not be catastrophic so long as their is another game in sight.

I think it better to play the season before claiming seeds or final four births — but that may just be my superstitious side.

Good analysis, Nestor — and in my eyes, a very proper call for perspective.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

I think

I am evolving into a geezer. ;-)

by Nestor on Feb 8, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not evolution ...

it’s a rapid slide.

Although we will welcome you when the right time comes, you’re not there yet.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Good write-up, N

We have every reason to be pleased (extremely pleased) with the way the team has played the last four games. We have every reason to be concerned about the remainder of the season. I have said many times that every game will be a tough game because every team has good players. We need to anticipate that teams will put it all together when they play us, because those letters on the jersey form a target.

One more thing to remember. These are the same guys and this is the same coach that lost a game at Washington. Some of the same people who are solidly on board with the Bruins now were flying off the bandwagon after the loss up north. We weren’t as bad as people thought we were then, and we may not be as good as peole think we are now. (Although we look mighty good.)

Anyway, the point of my sermon is patience and maintaining an even keel. We’re UCLA, we have great players and the best coach we can get. We’ll be OK. And I don’t care where we’re ranked or what region we’re put in.

by Fox 71 on Feb 8, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

We also have to be careful..

when the refs call too many fouls early when we try to go inside. That happened in a couple of our losses. I don’t know if there is any way to prepare for that, but if there is, I’m sure CBH will.

by Joe Bruin on Feb 8, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

That is a great point

I am willing to bet it is going to be an issue this week when we have to deal with SPTRs on the road.

by Nestor on Feb 8, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Where were the ND game ref's from?

Although we were called more often in the beginning, it evened out a bit later. The more warped amongst us would say that we had the game so in control there was no way to try to keep it close with fouls.

But, if we start getting hosed again, with our four road games, it will be much more difficult to win, let alone pull away to a big lead.

There were some bad calls, yesterday, but they had no major impact. Some times I think the ref’s don’t understand that we can play such tight D, steal the ball, or block shots without fouling — but the replays show we can.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Referees for ND game ...

Here is a link (scroll to the bottom) which gives bios for the refs that called our game. Apparently they all work multiple conferences: PAC-10, Missouri Valley, Mountain West, Big Sky.

by snorkeldorf on Feb 8, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

David Hall

Some of you might know him by his more common nickname, “Lunes Grande”

by turs12 on Feb 8, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks --

It will take some time for me to understand this stuff — but I’m going to try to use the site to look back at the Washington game.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Seeing ND's highlights was amazing

thats the first thing my dad mentioned as he was filling me in on the game, he saidt Nikola was playing like a star. In perspective though i certainly agree, this is a great stretch, but I’m not thinking final four or even our tournament seeding. Like CBH always reminds us, lets focus on our first main objective, winning the pac 10.

Go Bruins!

O.A.

by Ollie on Feb 8, 2009 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

We are who I thought we were

LOL. But seriously, before the season I thought we would develop to an Elite Eight team and it looks like we are getting there.

I did watch UConn this week, and suggest some others watch teams that are legit top 5 teams (not overrated dook) and see that we will have to play our best and get a little luck to get past the sweet 16. I

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Feb 8, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

One thing to note as well

PAAs body is entirely different then when he started. He is one of the few Howland players who is actually less bulky. He is longer, leaner, and quicker now then he was as a freshman, and has a basketball players body now.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Feb 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Great post

Keeping it all in perspective is exactly right.

By the way, it was really, really fun to see Notre Dame throttled like a rag doll in their “second home.”

Digger is a wimp and he wears ladies clothes.

by Barnes2JJ on Feb 8, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

Has Digger Been Called Out by a Commentator for His Second Home Comment

Surely, someone has made him eat it.

I didn’t see the original. it would be fun to see both the prediction and the aftermath.

Anyone know where I can find those clips?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

no one's getting too hyped up here

especially considering we’ve won all these games at home.
we’ll see if we can keep it up on the road at the az schools.

but i do think it does need to be pointed out that we never thoroughly dominated four games in a row like this last season when we had supposedly better talent.

as for coach’s comments about being a top five team, I think it is a little bit of posturing for tourney time seeding. our rpi is not gonna get much better by the end of the pac10 season, and the notre dame game was supposed to be a boost in that area. too bad notre dame is exactly who we thought they were, digger’s ladies.

by lilbobdog on Feb 8, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Undervaluing Jrue Holiday

I’ve been watching the Stanford/UW game. Early on, one of the announcers boldly proclaimed that Isaiah Thomas was the clear choice for Rookie of the Year in the Pac 10.

I think all of these awards are subjective, but decided to take a look at Thomas’s stat’s to see why he is the “clear favorite”. In all significant areas, Jrue has him beat. And there is one that may not be obvious, Jrue guards the other side’s most difficult players. Maybe Thomas is havng an off day, today, but he’s really not playng much D.

I think it is an incredible tribute to JH that he plays within the team and that he’s not using this year — which may be a “one and done year” to grab awards or pile up statistics.

All year long we’ve been saying that JH plays a “quiet” but very complete game.

The blowhard announcers have no idea because they make quick subjective decisions based on scoring flash.

I know, I should just tune them out — but it’s not the point of this post to complain about the announcers.

I just want to praise JH not only for his skills but also for the way he blends them into our overall team scheme.

  1. SUMMARY GP GS Min/G FG% 3PT% FT% Reb/G Ast/G Stl Blk Pts/G
    02 Thomas, Isaiah 22 21 28.3 .425 .305 .719 2.8 2.8 24 1 16.5

21 Holiday, Jrue 23 23 228 9.9 87 170 .512 21 66 .318 33 45 .733 32 59 91 4.0 48 0 82 46 12 36 617 26.8

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 8, 2009 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Let Thomas Have the Rookie of the Year Award

I would rather have a freshman who helps his team advance further in the postseason.

Having said that, it is fairly easy to see from the stats why they would be pushing Thomas. In one significant area, scoring average, Thomas is way ahead- 16.5 to 9.9. If this is a coaches’ vote, they may look deeper into play within a team concept. If this is beat writers, you can bet they will stop at that single stat.

I also think that people see Thomas and Washington as more of a surprise story. Jrue was the national HS player of the year and UCLA was picked as a top 5 team preseason. And here comes Washington which was unranked in preseason and is now in 2nd place in the Pac-10. In looking for reasons, they will lock on Thomas as a surprise factor- hence his popularity.

Again, as you undoubtedly would as well, I will take team success over individual success any day of the week.

by islandbruin on Feb 9, 2009 6:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He's higher in scoring but not shooting percentage, rebounds or assists

OJ2 like stats — jack up a lot of shots and score points.

JH is the perfect team player.

You are right, that’s not what counts to the commentators.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

OT Football team off season weight lifting

I had the privilege today of playing a round of golf with the UCLA Women’s golf team. Since they work out at the same time as the football team in the weight room, I asked how it looks from their perspective just as I did last year, when they were amazed at the new coach and how he was driving the players. The report this year is more of the same, but more that the players have bought into the system and are diligent in their workouts. This compares to the previous coach, name unmentioned, who did not drive the players, and when he was gone, nobody showed up. Not the case this time around or even last year. CRN is organized, persistent, and doing the right activities to give his team the best chance of having a successful season next year, IMO.
Bill

BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Feb 8, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions  

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