Trojans Embarrass Howland's Heartless & Lifeless Bruins
We will have lot more to say tomorrow but suffice to say this is yet another one of the more embarrassing and humiliating defeats in Howland era at UCLA.
Congrats to Tim Floyd and his Southern Cal Trojans. They move on to the finals of 2009 Pac-10 tourney by pounding a bunch of lifeless and listless Bruins by a score of 65-55. Here is the boxscore.
They came out to play. They came out with more desire and with sheer will power they throttled a bunch of disinterested, unfocused, heartless Bruins who were looking to coast to the NCAA.
It was the Trojans who played like "warriors"outrebounding and outhustling us time and time again ...
Photo Credit: Harry How/Getty Images
... while the Bruins were looking for an easy road to the NCAA:
Ben Howland's team except for a little desperation towards end of the game showed no heart and not a hint of the pride that made famous by AA, RW and previous Ben Ball warriors.
At this point I don't really care what happens with this UCLA team. It doesn't matter what seed they get because if they play like this they are going to get bounced in first week. They can't just come into thes games and think they can turn some magical "switch" on.
Oh and let's not whine about the SPTRs. Sure they were bad but we didn't lose this game because of some bad calls. We lost this game because we went up against a team that was more inspired, fired up and played with a sense of urgency and pride in their defense we were accustomed from our team. Everyone in this team including Ben Howland and his senior leaders should be ashamed of the effort they gave tonight.
Nothing more to say on this ugly night. Perhaps there is a silver lining and we will hear coach and player speak about learning a lesson from this loss and using it to make a run in the tournament. Yet given what we have seen from this team all season - "wildly inconsistent defense" (as noted by Donnie Mac during half time) - to say that I am not hopeful would be an understatement.
GO BRUINS.
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the poor officiating did contribute to the loss
They were allowed to be much more aggressive then we were, and the refs protected Taj all night. He had at least 8 easy to call fouls by my count
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that being said, we sucked anyway
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
27% filed goals has nothing to do with refs
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taj contributed to that a lot
they were afraid to drive because he was clogging the middle, and when they did and he hacked or charged, he didn’t get whistled
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Howland Wouldn't Have Just Given the Spot to Holiday
This is the man who benched KEVIN LOVE late in games last season. He benched Holiday against WSU this year.
I find it hard to believe Jrue Holiday didn’t earn the starting spot.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with the officiating. But we just played very bad.
by kyl57es on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that said, they really played D at a high level
It reminded me of the way the JF/AA/Bozeman/Hollins team played D
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nailed it in the title.
Other than that, did Marquis go to UCLA? There is being neutral and being ridiculous, he is consistently ridiculous!
by bruinbrah on Mar 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Marquis traded his UCLA diploma with South Central Tech long time ago
You see, last year it was his “meow mayo” cuddlings that really irked me. Now , he did it even better this evening with his constant harping about DeMar DeRozen’s dunks, which he referred to as “demarolization”. I never imagined he would excel so well in his academic vocabularies to create his own jargons against his own alma mater. Bravo ! Bravo !
Return your Wooden Award trophy, please. I am sure their Heritage Plaque can honor you better.
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I started thinking
“Man, I wish Don MacLean could have done this game.”
“NOOOOOOO I DON’T WANT THAT! They might take our Donny Mac away from radio and doing excellent UCLA analysis! OK fine, keep Marques blubbering on air over DeMar DeRozan.”
I remember in the last SC game, Marques was showing a bit of UCLA homerism, but … all gone tonight. I guess it’s winning team-ism. I was reading on another msg board with someone praising Donny Mac for laying it out plainly and not being afraid to criticize, but I want to keep him in the UCLA world.
by freesia39 on Mar 13, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
tonight’s game totally ruined my night..
by Bruin4ever15 on Mar 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody think it was interesting how inspired we were playing with DC on the bench at the end?
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a little too casual sometimes
Love provided the sense of urgency last year, but there’s really nobody doing that this year
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Westbrook too
Easy to feed of RW’s energy last year. How many times did he spark the team with “let’s go” plays?
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dohn says he's still hurt
I didn’t like to see him come in that last minute when Shipp fouled out.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He definately had to be hurt.
Not making excuses for DC because even with him healthy, SC’s inspiration would still have prevailed probably. Our guys looked stunned.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Howland operates like that
This is the man who benched KEVIN LOVE late in games last season. He benched Holiday against WSU this year.
Howland clearly believes he’s a better option starting than Roll or Lee.
I do want to see Lee get more minutes.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Field Goals 23-45 (51.1%) 19-70 (27.1%)
R U KIDDING ME? WE SHOT 25 more attempts and made 4 less
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to question the game plan not just the execution
clearly playing a half court game with SUC and their 6 deep roster was pretty foolish. NOt sure why Howland doesn’t adjust his scheme to fit this years roster
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
What the heck was ND doing guarding Derozan?
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should really call him Rago when he plays horrible D
He doesn’t deserve the D in his name
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really can't guard anyone
hate to say it, but he would be better served at an ASU where they play a zone. The guy just cant’ play man to man defense. He is slow, but isn’t strong enough to defend the 4 or 5
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree..wtf..
we have supposebly the one of the best 2008 recruiting class and we cant beat SUC.
by bheesting on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize
1. We beat them twice in the regular season.
2. If you were expecting Kevin Love type numbers, it was NOT going to happen with this class, regardless of how high they were ranked.
Overall, it’s still not an excuse to lose this game, but saying that having a top ranked recruiting class entitles us to wins is a bit ridiculous.
by freesia39 on Mar 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do realize
Having talent doesnt entitle us wins, but having talent helps teams win.
SUC wins in football because they stockpile talent. SUC have good coaches. Talent and good coaches should equal wins.
SUC is your cross town rival and we are not up for this game. Some blame can go to the coach. Durrell didnt have the same quality of talent that howland has. durrell didnt recruit well and howland is a great recruiting coach. We just got out coached and we weren’t ready for this game.
by bheesting on Mar 13, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hate seeing us lose but i hate losing to SUC even more
by bheesting on Mar 13, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Said, Nestor
Ya know – the thing that gets me is that HOW IN THE HELL when you are playing in the Pac-10 Tournament in your hometown in front of a national TV audience against your freaking in-town ARCH-RIVAL and you CAN’T get jacked up for that? Man, something’s just wrong with that picture.
At this rate we’ll be damn lucky to get into the 2nd round of the dance.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Mar 13, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed....
That’s what kills me—-this game points to a much bigger problem. Can this UCLA tame come in with the focus and intensity needed night in and night out to make a run in the tourney.
If you can’t get psyched for an arch rival opponenet in your hometown on national television, there’s something wrong with the team’s mentality. I think it’s a little bit of being spoiled over the last 3 years and having everything handed to them.
When we made a near run at the end…down by 6 with a minute left…did DC really think that fourty footer was going to automatically go in?
Did we think the rebounds were automatically ours after a missed free throw? —-this was one of the most painful things to watch tonight…
It was a sad day to see our team go down in flames today…falling far far far down from the highs of senior day—-celebrating our most winning seniors ever. It doesn’t matter…I still respect DC, JS, PAA, but today’s performance not only let their fans down…they let themselves down. It’s shame and a wasted opportunity. 2nd place in the regular season…and 2nd round elimination in the conference tourney.
With our seniors leaving and possibly JH, do we really expect to be any better next year? Could be a dark road ahead for us Bruins fans. The opportunity for Coach Wooden to see banner #12 may be slipping away. sigh
—either way…i’ll still watch every game and cheer them on…especially with CBH running the show. Here’s hoping for better days ahead.
by BMV268 on Mar 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC
4 points, 7 turnovers. There you go.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Demar is getting media sucked big time
by bruinbrah on Mar 13, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great, I agree with them. hes ready for the NBA. He should go
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
I want the best players and depth on my team.
I don’t get the Jrue dislike. He’s trying, he’s just not meeting the expectations.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
good, lets give him an award for trying . . .
oh yeah, he’s on a free ride to one of the best schools in the country . . . u r high
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely unnecessary
He is still the number one freshman on the team and has been a valuable asset that any team in the country would like to have on their roster. Are you going so far as to say he does not even deserve his scholarship? That is simply unacceptable and you should be ashamed of yourself for even insinuating that, whether you meant it or not. He may not be playing like the Gatorade player of the year right now, but he is still a darn good basketball player, and you have no right to pick on a 18/19 year old who could come back next year and blow you away. Westbrook did not have anywhere near as good a freshman season as Jrue, and look what he did in a break out sophomore year. You seriously are willing to shun him? I just don’t know what to say other than I would be ashamed to call anyone who could be so shortsighted and lack reason and logic to such a large degree a fellow bruin alum.
by sponkey21 on Mar 14, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday has the potentials, really. He just needs
time to hone his skills. As we speak, I just can’t imagine he would leave for the pros. Any bench player can easily outplay him in a dribble, unless he wouldn’t mind starting for the Fargo Jackrabbits this time next year.
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't dislike Jrue
…but I don’t think he deserves the starting position. It’s like we keep him in just in case he might flash some of his potential for us. I’d rather have less O and better D with ML or MR.
by bruinbunz on Mar 13, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Coach Howland would disagree there
This is the man who benched KEVIN LOVE late in games last season. He benched Holiday against WSU this year. He benched Keefe for Dragovic.
I doubt Holiday is starting solely based on his potential. He’s clearly earned it in Ben Howland’s eyes.
I do think Malcolm Lee needs to play more. Michael Roll struggled too today.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy deserves it tonight.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we all love BH, but lets face it . . . there are some real issues there
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he finally pulled ND and put ML in instead
Which I pretty much said he should have done about 3 minutes into the 2nd half. But it took him an extra 10 minutes to do it
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC was pretty outmatched while being injured
It was like the Memphis game from last year. He should have made some adjustments sooner
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its like memphis last year
Sometimes he sticks too long with things that just can’t work
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing is it looks like our guys are afraid to make mistakes
and just arent aggressive enough
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's only so much Howland can do
with a pretty undersized front court(except Aboya), very little production from the 2(Roll and Holiday) and a stagnant effort. Shipp, Collison, Aboya and Drago can only do so much. The bright spot is Lee and Jerime seems to be getting more confidence. Howland knows what to do and how to win, we know that. I think he’s just kind of challenged with the young team and the inconsistency of effort and execution of his plan.
by bruin95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all fronts
tonight ruined my saturday. I’ll be fired up on sunday for the brackets – but unless something miraculous happens – a sweet 16 is the best this team can do. Looking at a probable 5 seed – this ucla team will have a most difficult time beating a 1. I just can’t see it. In a 1 game scenario, anything can happen, but not something i’d bet on – bring on the crown and coke – time for a stooper
by Nakatomi Plaza on Mar 13, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to DC?
Is it me or DC get punked tonight? He seemed like he was out of it right from the tipoff. He certainly (tonight wise) does not look like a NBA player to me.
by nwucla12 on Mar 13, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Reality check. SUC won it. They played harder for longer than we did.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
25 more shots
and we were within 6 points at 1:30 min mark. SUC didn’t win it…..we gave it to them.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Again respectfully disagree
IMO they won it early on by setting the temp with their aggressiveness.
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with Nestor
We made a comeback, but the probability we were actually going to pull it off was extremely low
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
about tempo and agressiveness, but statistics support the notion that the better team lost tonight IMO.
I think this game says more about us than it does about them.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
My post game thread was just focusing on this game mostly. In this game IMHO they were clearly the better team and based on this loss and what we have seen in some other games this season, I am not optimistic about our prospects this year.
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't blame you
I hope we are both pleasantly surprised in a couple of weeks.
Go Bruins.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nestor,
I can’t believe you said you don’t care about what happens to this team. This loss is extremely painful to say the least, and I have never felt this bad about a loss before, but I would NEVER say I don’t care about a UCLA basketball team, especially one coached by Howland.
by BruinDrums on Mar 13, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I love UCLA
and love UCLA basketball … but I am realistic enough to know … this team isn’t going far … and not capable of focusing one game at a time.
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's hurt, but he;ll get on board
Its okay to be disappointed.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will give SUC this,
none of their players were punks tonight. Taj was a little cheeky, but they had good sportsmanship for once
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really, Taj hit PAA in the first minute -- a total cheap shot
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i did see that
but Hackett and Washington were well behaved for once.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hackett was better...
but I did see him mouth “bitch” once after DC fouled him. Hackett, like most Trojies, is classless.
JohnnyBrewin
by johnnybrewin on Mar 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troll -- YOu join tonight to post this crap?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comment was deleted
so it looks you are responding to silverlake.
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bastard! JK
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They weren't fired up
We lost Love and Luke Richard Mbah a Moute, and so many of our shots last year that didn’t make it were rebound and scored easily by both of them.
Plus, after the first half it appeared that the psychological damage was done. DC and DH were both second guessing shots, and they over compensated.
by wingsabre on Mar 13, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that was last year not this this year
by kyl57es on Mar 13, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but
It looks like this year is a rebuilding year. Even at the start of the season, it looked to me that none of the new freshmen were conditioned as well as the past, and none of them played as aggressive defense as before. They played more acrobatic. Is it Drew’s fault? No, he’s still learning. He’s still young and it’ll take time for him to get better. I doubt that he’ll be a one and out, though. He wasn’t as strong as Love, and RW.
by wingsabre on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're still not that bad
Look at Florida – they’re probably going to miss the NCAA tournament again.
We’ll probably still make the tournament again next year, and the year after is probably our year
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be happy if we make it to the sweet 16
I’m just hoping we’ll get some more trees in the center next year.
by wingsabre on Mar 13, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you agree with me regarding Holiday
He should play better next year, if he stays. This will be a travesty should he go, then be released and find himself the starting point guard of Thunder Bay Lumberjacks or Sioux City Gunslingers, etc.
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to be diplomatic with our freshman
We’re going to have high expectations, but we can’t bash them every time they don’t deliver or else nobody will want to play for us. Even if Jrue goes to the NBA you guys are probably going to bash Honeycutt next year for “not playing D” or “being too slow”
We need to have perspective and realize that not all Freshman are going to have as big an impact as Love.
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I forgot to add
If we abuse all our freshman verbally, we’re going to get a bad reputation and nobody will want to play for us.
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our freshman arent the problem . .. only the one who starts is
ML had 9 pts
JH had 1
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the seniors didn't shine either
so i wouldnt blame jrue
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
21 · J Holiday 0/8 0/2 1/2 4 1
yes, blame jrue
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC has been a warrior for us for 4 years . . . JH is a flop
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
He doesn’t live up to the high expectations as a freshmen so it’s completely his fault this team lost today?
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's gonna be fantastic next year
When Jrue says “fuck it, I don’t need this grief” and uses people bashing on him as a reason to leave…leaving us with razor thin guard depth.
by Tydides on Mar 13, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously!
these are probably the same people who thought RW was a flop his freshman year….and if JH comes back and has a breakout year…theyr’e gonna be on the bandwagon huggn his nuts like RW.
Look, ND wasn’t all the impressive last year…but he’s bee invaluable to us this year…i’m not going to right off a player based off of poor offensive stats during his freshman year. I thought JH still had some hustle defenisve plays tonight.
by BMV268 on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Dragovic?
Only Shipp and Lee showed up before all the freshmen did in the final 2 minutes.
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a total team loss -- with the exception of JS
we played bad D, didn’t rebound, missed inside shots, you cannot blame JH
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that JS makes a lot of bad fouls in games we lose
Remember that one play against one of the Arizona teams where he just tackled a guy running down the court?
He was in foul trouble a lot of this game and fouled out really early too. You can’t completely absolve him
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really early
IIRC, he fouled out when we had to play in a frenzied mode very near the end of the game. And, there were a couple very questionable calls on him.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had 2 "early" fouls in the first half (1 was a really bad call on a falling out of bounds play)
And that limited his minutes in the first half. In the 2nd half, he picked up the 3rd foul about 4 minutes in maybe and had to sit until there was around 10 minutes left.
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's ok to have high expectations of JH. After all he was the #1 recruit in the country right?
I certainly had high expectations of him, but not the others.
formerly known as popopapa
by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's ok to have high expectations, it's not ok to get mad at him and blame him for the loss
I don’t think your comments are as much of an issue as some of the other ones I read tonight
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't blame JH entirely. He was one part of the problem. It was more or less a team effort.
formerly known as popopapa
by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was a poor match for Howland's style of play
by wingsabre on Mar 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when then leads to what others have mentioned...
is Howland’s style the perfect match for his personnel this year?
by AZBruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe in styles. If you can play, you can play.
Jrue just flat out struggled this year. I think he’s an idiot if he goes to the draft
by harveyismyboy on Mar 14, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Karaethon
I hope I wasn’t bashing Holiday in your view but honestly speaking, he would be dead wrong, throwing his potentials to waste should he declare for the draft in June. On the contrary, pissed as I was with Marquis’ swooning of DeRozen, Holiday’s cohort, he is ready to go.
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure the ASu-SUQ ketchup v mustard final will draw a huge rating
NOT! Who cares
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, what an accurate description of tomorow's championship game at Staples
I thought it was going to be worse, MSG v Transfat !
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at a loss - will the sun come up tomorrow?
by Nakatomi Plaza on Mar 13, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I said at the beginning of the game thread that I was worried because
it is hard to beat a team 3 times in one season.
And, it is.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and we beat a good stanford team thrice last year . . . so what
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
USC is much better than Stanford this season
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im speaking of last year with the Lopezes
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But last year's UCLA team was clearly much, much better than this year's team
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We didn't beat SUC
3 times last year, either.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's one reason we came out flat
we were not very hungry and maybe a bit complacent
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only flat, we were
demarolized ! Remember this infamous word coined by Marquis ?!?
by Htse005 on Mar 13, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to call that jerk a troll and couldn't get the post up
thanks
sjh
by Class of 66 on Mar 13, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really getting sick of one person in here
Hopefully he’s gone in the morning.
by Tydides on Mar 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our two most disappointing players today were DC and JH, in my opinion, because they had tons of minutes but failed to show up offensively and defensively.
Collison: 1/9 FG, 0/5 3FG, 4 points, 0/0 Offensive/Defensive Rebounds, 3/7 Assists/Turnovers
Jrue: 0/8, 0/2, 1 point, 4/7, 3/4
In addition, neither Dragovic or Roll had a good night. Dragovic played mediocre offensively (low shooting %, but was given the ball a couple times at the very end of possession) and crap defense, and Roll played reasonably defensively but could not make a bucket.
Dragovic: 4/15, 2/8, 12 points, 2/4, 0/0
Roll: 1/4, 0/3, 2 points, 0/1, 2/1
Aboya had a mediocre night with decent offensive board showing and good hustle, but could not get a defensive rebound or score (partially due to lack of help in the paint).
Aboya: 2/9, 0/0, 6 points, 11/13, 2/2
Josh Shipp played reasonably well, and I thought Malcolm Lee had a good game and certainly should have been put in earlier.
Josh Shipp: 7/16, 2/6, 19 points, 0/3, 2/3
Malcolm Lee: 3/5, 1/1, 9 points, 2/4, 0/0
I think it is very telling when Aboya, Holiday, and Collison combine for only 11 points on 3/26 FG and 0/7 3FG.
I think our coach is not absolved of responsibility either. Unfortunately we played a slow game that did not take advantage of our depth. This is especially bad considering that USC is a shallow team. Secondly, he is very hesitant to substitute when someone is doing very poorly.
All in all, a poor showing. There is no such thing as a “switch”, and a team that is inconsistent all season long will be inconsistent in the tournament as well.
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
maybe someone can explain why we never pressed in the first 35 minutes with SUCs only point guard being Hackett?
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets face it . . . BH is a great, but STUBBORN coach
he does not adjust his game plan well . . . and when we start off poorly we almost never come back. even the best have flaws
by charnaw on Mar 13, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pressing only works in the very short term
You create a little bit of tension and get some turnovers, but then the other team always settles down and starts getting easy baskets.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, then use it sporatically and get them rattled til they figure it out
im not sure why we didnt. They have no depth and one point guard. The more pressure and intensity the better.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 14, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with yanking players as soon as they make a mistake (especially on offense) is that they get tenative
If you watched the Laker games from the Shaq/Kobe era, Phil would always yank a player as soon as they take a bad shot. If you’re under that much pressure, you tend to miss more of the shots.
Compare that to a Mike D’Antoni team where there’s not too much pressure as far as shot selection and the overall shooting is better because players are not afraid to take shots.
Basically it’s a double edged sword.
What Ben should do and has done in the past though is take players out for playing bad D. For some reason ND gets a pass at that this year (maybe cause there’s not really anyone else).
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil also won a ton of championships...
I don’t agree with yanking them right away, but certainly if they’ve been having an off game for 15 minutes straight you can yank them.
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I just hate losing to SUC.
If you are a die hard Bruin then any lost to a SUC team eats at you. We didn’t show up for this team. we got out coached. you can;t say we don’t have players
we have talent every year. we have two bruins on the lakers squad. one on a piston squad and one with the suns. farmar is not great but even he said howland didnt take advantage of his talent.
by bheesting on Mar 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When did Farmar say that?
link please.
by snorkeldorf on Mar 13, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just about every player ever to play the game, thinks his talent is underused.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're ridiculous, bheesting. Drive away
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, i heard that on 570 or 710 sports talk show.
I don’t know about you but i don’t like seeing us get bounced out of the tourney. the way we are playing. it will happen sooner than later. that’s reality.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if it was on AM Sports Radio
Then I’m sure it was the truth.
/sarcasm
Seriously, AM radio is the toilet bowl of sports discourse.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A warning to first time posters who are registering tonight
If you are posting just to attack players, stay away.
by Nestor on Mar 13, 2009 11:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough to see this five days before I fill in my bracket
Is it just me or is JH not threatening at all? 26 minutes for one point is always gonna hurt us. If our opponents are not afraid to let him get the ball, without an dominant inside presence they’ll have the easy option of going after DC, which seems like a good game plan. DC was far from great today, but nobody should be talking smack (completely overrated was the most recent assesment) about DC without holding ALL the starters to a certain standard. If you critique everyone on the team DC is the last guy who should get all the criticism. What about the 2? What I woudn’t give to have seen RW dunking over fool’s heads this year.
I have been putting us all the way in my brackets since the Lavin days, but some years it’s a little tougher than others…
by bruin_2K on Mar 13, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope we get the Thurs/Sat. slot in the tourney.
Our record on Thursday nights speaks for itself.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thurs/Sat or Fri/Sun doesn't matter in my mind.
It’s the first night we play better because we have time to prepare.
by freesia39 on Mar 13, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. You are right. And that is CBH's strength.
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We used to play really well the 2nd night also
Cause Howland had Keating scout the other team and prepare the game plan
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who is doing that now?
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Drew Gordon is okay
If he’s hurt that’s just too much.
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me....
Or did we miss a lot of layups tonight?
by 10amla on Mar 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We had a layup?
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by 84 on Mar 13, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had two nice dunks from Alfred methinks
The first, though, I was afraid they’d wave off and call travelling. Whew.
by freesia39 on Mar 13, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drago missed a bunch of inside shots
Including 1 series where he missed 3 shots in a row
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering how the locker room is tonight
This has got to sting all the guys. Howland’s probably lost his voice. DC, JS, AA have experienced nothing but success during the season and tourney. You know they have to be pissed right now. I hate to rely on “turning on the switch” (I’m not a believer in it) – but that’s what I’m relegated too at this point. Wherever we go, wherever they ship UCLA, I’ll be yelling my ass off at the TV, saying what a shitty call was just made, and jumping up and down when we hit a 3. I will always cheer for the team and always believe they are capable of doing great things. I just want to see their best effort – and if they lose to a better team – I’ll walk around a proud ucla alum strutting the effort of my bruins. If they lay an egg with an effort like tonight…… UCLA Football with Rick Neuheisel and Norm Chow baby!!!!!!!!
by Nakatomi Plaza on Mar 13, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate losing to USC as much as the next guy
But I wouldn’t call us or our performance heartless or lifeless. We played hard, but we were ultimately playing for a seed, and they played every possession like it would be their last one if they didn’t go all out. Our guys are human. It’s not in our nature to fight for what we already have as hard as the team that doesn’t have it. It was a question of urgency. We didn’t have it. We couldn’t fake it. USC needs another win tomorrow or they will still be NIT bound, and either way, they’ll be home for the spring long before us.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So... our team needs the sports equivalent of Viagra?
Can’t get it up?
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, who cares?
Conference tournaments are like exhibitions. That’s why the stands are half empty. We won’t need anything to get up for our games next week.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well seeding in the NCAA tournament is very important
There’s a huge difference in terms of staying in the West or traveling far. Furthermore, this is classified as tourney March madness time—there’s no coincidence that DC’s quotes about turning the “switch” on are starting before the current Pac-X tournament.
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That actually only matters if you're a 1 seed
Then you’ll get your “home” region. Everyone else is on the “S” curve, so it’s luck of the draw.
by Tydides on Mar 13, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's player speak
He may have thought he turned on the switch, but USC hadn’t eaten for 30 days.
Seeding matters, but we’ll still be in the west for the 1st weekend, and at this point you can only move up or down one spot in the seeding. It’s a pretty small thing to play for.
It’s the same thing as when NFL teams are playing the last two weeks having already clinched playoff spots against teams who haven’t. The team playing for home field advantage is always at a disadvantage against the worse team that needs to win to survive.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only disagree in that ...
I think tonight’s win may be just enough for them to squeak into the tourney.
by snorkeldorf on Mar 13, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SC needed a big win to get tourney consideration, and they got it.
Can’t really use that as the excuse that the toejams won it. Don’t forget, they just played an intense game against Cal yesterday. We’ve had way more rest than they have.
by bruinbunz on Mar 14, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have NO good road wins.
If I’m not mistaken, they have only won at WSU early in the season and at Oregon. Not exactly the foundation of a good tournament resume. Same goes for Arizona. They have wins against Kansas, Gonzaga, UCLA, and Washington, but all of them came in the state of Arizona. Their only two road wins were at the Oregon schools. And they will barely miss the tournament for that. A USC loss tomorrow means the NIT.
by PEDbruin on Mar 14, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this will sound bad but I think what's so frustrating is the lack of consistency
If we were consistently bad like say Florida, we can just chalk it up to a rebuilding year and move on. If we’re consistently good, then all is well and there are no problems. If we’re consistently mediocre like Cal, we know that we’ll make the tourney and might get an upset or two, but have no real aspirations of getting to the final 4 again.
Our problem is that we have flashes – the 4 game winning streak against the 2 bay teams, SC, and Notre Dame showed us how good we could be if we were playing at a high level. The team that showed up to those 4 games can make it to the final 4 again. Then we get a team that can’t get up for a game against Arizona and gets blown out, or doesn’t come prepared against WSU after winning the “game of the year” against Udub.
If I knew what we were getting night in and night out, it wouldn’t be so frustrating, but playing this weird sort of russian roullette with the way our team plays is just extremely frustrating
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not that we're inconsistent
It’s just that we don’t have the interior presence to make all of our opponents roll over. We are vulnerable to any team with perimeter length and a big inside presence.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall the last time we played SC, we soundly beat them
I don’t think that argument really flies. I agree with the inconsistency of our play, we have a tendency to be streaky.
by bruinbunz on Mar 14, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're pretty funny, troll
In that case, every team is inconsistent. Every team in the top 25 lost to at least one team that they also beat and in many cases several teams. No team is capable of playing the same every night. This is not news.
Inconsistency is human. In our case, we are more inconsistent this year because we have more weaknesses that other teams can exploit.
by BruinsRule on Mar 14, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defending JH
There is no doubt that JH hasn’t lived up to expectations and that his performance has left a lot to be desired, but I’m shocked at some of the comments in the game thread about him. Jrue hasn’t been terrible all year and bring some things to the table. He’s averaging just about 4 rebounds a game from the guard position, something that’s very important to a team that struggles to rebound. By all accounts he’s a hard worker and he’s represented the university with class.
I’ve been disappointed with his performance just like nearly everyone else, but to say you don’t care if he comes back or want him to leave is ridiculous IMO. Regardless of what you think about him, if he leaves we’ll have only three scholarship guards next year so from a numbers perspective, I sure as hell hope he comes back. He’s a great talent that mentally and emotionally gets lost sometimes and has some work to do. Give him another year and he could make major strides in that department. After all, he’s 18 years old. To say you’ve been disappointed with his play and that he hasn’t lived up to expectations is one thing, but to act as if he hasn’t contributed this year and that he wouldn’t be a major key to next years team is over the top IMO.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 13, 2009 11:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm disappointed
but it would be crazy not to want him back next year. He’s clearly talented, but still makes mental mistakes and lapses.
by dokein on Mar 13, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made some pretty good hustle plays despite having no offensive game whatsoever.
Also when you’re as talented as Jrue is, you always think the next shot you take is going in. Take a look at AI….
by karaethon on Mar 13, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JH has game.
If you make the McDonald’s All American Team and ranked the #1 guard in 2008, then you have GAME.
by bheesting on Mar 13, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think JH just lacks confidence with his shot. He’s not getting the ball in consistent places to score. He’s finding that he can’t finish like he did in high school. Next year, I think he’ll blow up.
by BruinsRule on Mar 13, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely correct
JH hasn’t flourished this year, but I think a large part of that was the focus of running the offense through DC and JS. If he comes back and the offense is run through him, I think a lot of his detractors will eat their words.
This program needs to have some talent stick around, for a change.
by godblesstyus95 on Mar 13, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Purely from a practical standpoint, you pretty much have to want him to come back. Even if you hate his game and are willing to blind yourself to the fact that he’s a freshman, it’s still better than being razor thin at guard. I’m not having anyone complain about lack of guard depth next year if he leaves after tonight’s display from the “fans”. Be careful what you wish for.
by Tydides on Mar 13, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jrue should come back…and i’d welcome him back. i give him a pass b/c he is playing out of position. out of hs he may of been listed as a combo guard, but we all see that he is a point guard (partly due to his non existant jumper and his good court vision)… it seems like us fans get more up for the games than the players!. collison needs to look in the mirror and ask himself, “what did i come back for?”…he needs to realize he passed up millions to win the chip. no more injury excuses, not showing up against physical guards…he needs to suck it up and take over a game. we’ve seen it before he needs to remember how he did it in the past real quick!
by yayregulator on Mar 13, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
We all can see JH’s talent. What would suck is if he chooses the one and done route without realizing his potential in college. That’s why we’d feel betrayed by him if he leaves (and Brian Dohn says that’s still the plan). We need him desperately for next year, when he’d be the PG. It’s a huge decision for him, of course, and he needs to do what’s best for himself, but as fans we wouldn’t help but feel bitter towards him should he go. I hope he chooses another year as a Bruin, and assuming he does improve dramatically, so would his draft status.
by daggy on Mar 14, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic post
Much more eloquent than I could
by Raisin on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JH needs to be able to run more.
Look at Baron Davis, he was playing like an ALL STAR with the Warriors. Now he’s with the Clippers and they Dunleavy doesn’t know how to use him. The Clippers insist on making him a half court player. Let Baron run and he’ll make things happen. I think JH will be a good or even great NBA player in the right system.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked seeing JH run the point at times during this game. Why would anyone want to see him leave?...
Geeze a 5-star recruit is still a 5-star recruit.
by BMV268 on Mar 14, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love JH, but...
you have to at least consider that it makes things a little tougher with anyone playing 25 mins a game and averaging 5pts a game (over the last 11 games). I’m hoping he has a great tournament, but I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t. No matter what happens, I will be jumping up and down if he comes back next year, as should anyone else in Westwood.
by bruin_2K on Mar 14, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argh
I agree, we would be majorly hurt without JH back. But I’m still frustrated with him. Did anyone else notice that he passed on like three open three-pointers to dribble once, go into the face of a defender, and try to shoot an off balance long 2-pt. shot? It drove me nuts every time.
by bruinbunz on Mar 14, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC had an off game...
…and when that happens, we can’t expect much. The truth about this years team is that we pretty much live or die based on his performance. Not necessarily about how many points he gets, but how he controls our tempo and our composure. He’s the leader of the team…and unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to be able to fill in the leadership shoes of JF and AA when our backs are against the wall.
It reminded me of the memphis game last year. Once DC was out of sync, it was hard to remain hopeful.
That being said…I personally thought we should have just pulled DC out of the game sooner and tried to see what miracle JA or ML could pull off. Once DC got inserted back into the game with less than 2 min left…an out of sync DC was of no help and we lost our shot of a gonzaga miracle.
I feel like DC made the biggest sacrifice coming back for this 4th year…and i’ll always be grateful for that…but with him being the leader, this season is his to win or lose.
by BMV268 on Mar 13, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The WORST
That was the WORST game I have ever been to in my life. I’ve been going for a while too. I mean, we just didn’t have it from minute one and I know this is not why we lost, but the officiating was horrendous. Are they serious? How many times did they have to confer on a call because neither of them could figure it out? The Pac-10 officiating people should look at that game. I will continue to support with all my heart of course, but just need to vent right now! I feel bad saying this. but Holiday is the most disappointing supposed one and done I have ever seen. I know he does some good things for the team, but man in big games especially he just doesn’t come through. I will be at the tourney no matter where I have to go and cheer my butt off so let’s get some heart guys and go out there and make a RUN! GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For the record
He’s not the one that says he’s “one and done”. That’s what other people decide for him. There are a lot of things that are fair game for criticism. Bashing him based on other people’s expectations of him seems supremely unfair.
by Tydides on Mar 13, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Didn’t mean to bash. I think I’m a little upset tonight! I didn’t mean that he said he was one and done – that is why I said “supposed”. I am just hoping he gets better and stays another year. Being in that building with all those $c jerks has me in a mood! :(
GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Mar 14, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let it slide man
Let me put it this way. They probably still have to win tomorrow to make the field. Even if they do they’ll get some crappy seed and get bounced early. Oh, and we still took 2 of 3 from them so there’s not a whole lot for them to talk trash about.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off Topic - anyone cover Bellotti stepping down today?
Just noticed that SI posted this afternoon
by bruinhoo on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder how the team will respond coming off this type of loss going into the tourney
by BMV268 on Mar 14, 2009 12:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder that for a lot of teams
You look at all the other conference tourneys and there is a lot of carnage out there. A lot of teams with regrettable final games before the tournament. It’ll probably shake up the seedings slightly but we’re going to see how a lot of teams respond to adversity, not just us.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but we look weak in the middle.
Gibson outplayed our bigs and in the tourney the bigs will be better and tougher. It’s not going to get easier. How will we do against other front court players in the tourney?
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That has nothing to do with what I said
Who are you replying to?
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If history is a guide
This loss will have no impact on our NCAA tourney hopes. We can easily cite 2007, when we lost in the first round and still made the final 4. In the last 3 years, conference tourney winners have fared well in the tourney, but prior to that, losers in conference tourneys seemed to do well with the extra rest. Only twice in the last 7 years of the Pac-10 tourney has the team that won the tourney also been the team that went the furthest in the ncaas (that was us in 2006 and 2008). I suspect that trend will continue this year, as UW and UCLA are the two teams that have the best chance of advancing to the Sweet 16.
by BruinsRule on Mar 14, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of the teams I'm talking about
Will only have to play one “difficult” or more evenly matched game to get to the second weekend. Although purely from a superstitious standpoint I don’t want to see us as a 5 seed because of the 5-12 deathmatch trap game.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything, playing 1 less game helps DC recover from his injury
We also won’t have any freak injuries like what happened to DG
by karaethon on Mar 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The agony of being in Staples tonight
Just got back from Staples Center and thankfully im now in my room at UCLA. This was definitely my worst experience as a Bruin considering we got served and I was sitting in a section particularly inhabited by USC fans. I thought we had a shot when we were down 6. All we needed was a 3 and a turnover. But deep down I knew a win like that would probably leave us less prepared for the tournament. This loss hurt but atleast Howland and the gang will be ready to go for the first game of the tournament. A loss provides more evidence of weaknesses than a lucky win. The one good feeling I had tonight was when Collison took it up the floor and hit a jumper after getting punked after his turnover. We need Collison to take it up a notch. Moreover, Jrue needs to click. He is either too forceful or too selfless. Shipp will always be there. He is pretty consistent. To me, it is Collison and Jrue. Aboya will be a warrior no matter what. He has improved considerably since last year but I still don’t expect him to have amazing performances every day. The rest of the team just needs to give it their all but Jrue and Collison need to have some conversation very soon on how they will step it up. Let’s go Bruins.
by podas okus Achilleus on Mar 14, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ucla goes the way of DC
As so many people have said this year, i think it is more than worth noting that when DC has a bad night, we struggle. Being at this game and watching us play like that is just so frustrating and inexplicable. I’m not going point fingers at who had the worst game, because after all this is a team sport, and we needed more than JS and ML to show up tonight. That said, Heads up Bruins. We’ve seen UCLA play up to their potential in a few games this season, and we know what they are capable of. There is no such thing as a good loss this late in the season, but I have faith that we will see this team, especially the seniors, take every play personally from here on out. This loss hurts too much to dwell on, so I’m moving on and looking forward to watching our bruins play in the tournament. JS, DC, and PAA don’t want to end their careers with a loss to USC and then a bad tourney run. BH and our Ben Ball Warriors will give it their all in the games to come. We may not make the final four, but our bruins WILL fight until the very end.
by prodigeo86 on Mar 14, 2009 12:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Since I don’t have the heart or the stomach to watch this game on my TIVO, just curious – did the announcers say anything about any of the bad officiating?
by uclafan11 on Mar 14, 2009 12:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
They were too busy fellating the Pac 10 ref crew for getting something like 19 out of 80 something refs into the NCAA tournament. That prospect alone should frighten teams across the country.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to know ?!?
Marquis kept talking about the "demarolization " of his alma mater !!!!!!!!!
by Htse005 on Mar 14, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not at all ...
It is very rare when they do – but not unheard of.
by snorkeldorf on Mar 14, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NIGHT IS RUINED
but i’m glad i got to blow off some steam here, Bruins. I’m pissed tonight but tomorrow is a new day. let’s see if we can’t make some noise in the tourney. good night all.
by bruinbunz on Mar 14, 2009 12:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrible showing
There’s really not much more than can be said that hasn’t been said. I’m more worried about the future of this Bruin team. The heart and soul of this year’s team will be gone next season with DC, Shipp, and PAA graduating.
One worry I have is that this year’s freshmen class really have not shown a defined role on the team. In years past, we can look at AA as the defensive stopper and emotional leader, Luc Richard as the defensive glue, Mata as providing blocks, Love as an everyman, Russell Westbrook as the athletic player that can generate steals. None of the freshmen when they come into the game gives me an impression that they have a role that they can provide to the team. And I think that has led to their inconsistent showings night in and night out.
Most telling is JH. Is he a passer? Some nights. Is he a go-to-scorer? Not really, not this season. Is he a defensive glue? Not all the time. He certainly has the raw basketball skills, but asking him to do multiple roles may be too much for him to do, especially with since he has such a quiet deferring demeanor.
Next season the only true scorer that we know is back is ND, and his defense is not really up to par. Keefe is gonna be a senior and he has not really provided much in his career. This team will really need to grow up during the offseason and the incoming freshmen need to be immediate impact players for the Bruins to get back to where they are accustomed.
by UCLA4Life on Mar 14, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to break it to you
There’s a good chance ND goes back to Europe. If ND and JH both leave, we lose all 5 starters—a frightening prospect.
by dokein on Mar 14, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought ND said he'll be back
I heard the rumors about him leaving when rumors of Sidney coming to UCLA were being reported, but I thought he said that he’ll be coming back for sure.
by UCLA4Life on Mar 14, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I specifically recall Dohn saying
just recently that Drag is definitely coming back and getting his degree.
by daggy on Mar 14, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to hope keefe can pull a PAA
and really contribute physically his senior year. I think if Jrue comes back, he has the athleticism to develop into a warrior, I just see him as someone leading by example rather than vocally. We know Drew is Fiery, but maybe a little too hot headed at times. I think seeing who emerges as next years leaders will be very interesting.
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 14, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today is over, and it doesn't change how many games we need to win after today.
If Villanova can win as an 8 seed, and Kansas can win as a 6 seed, we can win it all too.
Hopefully $uC gets blown out tomorrow and we can forget about this by next week.
Go Bruins. Let’s send DC to the NBA with the going away present he deserves.
by bruin_2K on Mar 14, 2009 12:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think as always, we need to find the balance
just because they are kids doesnt mean they cannot be subjected to critique and criticism. They put themselves in an enormous spotlight by choosing to play at a place like UCLA or USC, and they know that this comes with the territory.
At the same time, i get upset when people say things like “JH doesn’t care about UCLA basketball” just because he hasnt lived up to everything we expected. I think the kid has amazing natural ability but needs more molding than we realized, i just hope he is guided back here to grow into a true Ben Ball Warrior.
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 14, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I really hope he comes back and remains under Howland’s guidance. He really has potential and we just didn’t see what we thought we would at all. I think its hard after you have Love last year and all the hype Jrue got. I expected a lot more from him and was disappointed but kids like Love come along so rarely. Let’s hope he stays for one more! GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Mar 14, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off the topic.
I dont know if you feel the same, i’m just sick and tired of SUC getting all the athletes out there because UCLA academic standards too high. I just watched Track and Field and it look liked we were getting beat. We lost Snyder because he hasnt taken his SAT and I guess UCLA wasnt sure he would pass. Sometimes athletes just go to college as a stepping stone to the PRO LEVEL. so shouldnt they lower some requirements. SUC gets studs because they’ll take any SAT score. Look at OJ MAYO. can you honestly say he had the grades? just a thought.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 12:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
id rather
Keep a great academic standard than be a stepping stone to the pros. Sports don’t matter nearly that much to me as REAL LIFE.
by blinkshot on Mar 14, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true but the reality is most student athletes do use college as a venue to go pro
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And so be it
It’s the nature of the beast, and perhaps a reflection on society as a whole, that being athletically gifted and willing to sacrifice hard work and intellect for easy money is the way to be, rather than put in the time and effort to get to your goals.
by blinkshot on Mar 14, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Football and Basketball student athletes in high profile programs are not your ordinary student athletes. Those two programs brings in $$$ to the schools and brings world wide recognition. I dont know if you know this but without the help of UCLA, the internet may not have been what is today. Many people don’t know that but they know we won 11 national championships. There is two separate standards for students and athletes.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
success in football and basketball helps out the academic side. It’s been proven at schools nationwide that when a team has success in one of those two sports thousands more perspective students apply to the university. Also, when a football or basketball team is successful it energizes the alumni and they donate far more money not only to the athletic department, but to the school in general.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 14, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Of the top 25 (undergraduate) universities ranked by US News, only a few have very well-known sports programs (Duke, UCLA) and many (e.g. Ivy Leagues, MIT, Caltech) have basically no sports program.
Maybe for a university that is average academically (e.g. USC), athletic success and national exposure can help, but for a university that is already very competitive and well known, athletic success is of limited or no help. Your thoughts?
by dokein on Mar 14, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UCLA already has the most applicants in the country
so we may not see a major bump there, but I’ve been told by those in the Morgan Center and academic administrators that the recent success of the basketball program has led to increased donations to the athletic department and academic side.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 14, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad day, and Im mad/sad/dissapointed, but to keep things in perspective
It sucks losing to SUC. But let’s be real here, its tournament time and a team that’s desperate is going to have it’s best showing. SUC needed the win, and probably tommorrow as well, to get into the tourney. They might be a bunch of thugs, but they do have talent when they’re on to win, and catch us off guard with an off night and its anyones game.
There are plenty of fan bases that were dissapointed.For crying out loud, Pitt lost by 14 to WVU despite being penciled in as a #1 seed.
by blinkshot on Mar 14, 2009 12:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ya i agree
while i was very disappointed that we didnt come out with more fire against SUC in Staples, I cannot say I was entirely shocked by tonight’s outcome. What I saw was a team with a lot of first ear players/starters get beat by their rival who was playing with nothing to lose. This really was in a sense a trap game, and all you can hope as always is that we learn from this and are hardened by the experience.
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 14, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a good way to get ready and go into the tourney with a win streak.
This was disappointing. Wow.. getting text from people who went to SUC. this is what makes tg his lost worse, having SUC fans brag about it.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JH At Point
First of alI was at the game in the student section and i just wanted to say that there is nothing worse than getting crushed by SUC with about 7 thousand red shirts in attendance to remind you. Football is one thing but basketball is an entirely new and equally unpleasant experience.
I was glad to see CBH play Holiday at the point a few times, but I am worried that it was only because DC was hurting. JH has a ton of skill but is not offensively minded, which is fine. A point guard doesn’t have to be. The problem is when you have him starting alongside Collison, also a pg. I would much rather see ML or MR start at the 2 and let JH back up DC. That gives us a big body at the 1 to defend the Hacketts and Roses that we face. Also we get more offense form the 2.
Anyways tough loss all around. I hope Howland realizes that this year the priority is not the final four but getting our freshman tourney experience (Bobo too :).
by Sideout11 on Mar 14, 2009 1:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's no way that there were 7,000 Trojans
There was probably about 17,000 people there, maybe a little more. About 2,000 were neutral or fans of other teams. UCLA definitely had at least two times as many fans as USC so USC had maybe 5,000 and even that may be generous.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 14, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anytime there was a controversial call
You could tell the place was mostly UCLA fans.
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 14, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Bruin Sports there are two goals.
Win a Championship and beat SUC. Like in Football we didn’t win the national championship, but beating SUC is as good as it gets.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone know anything about CBH and JH's relationship?
It seems lately like they don’t really see eye to eye. I like many others am a bit disappointed with the type of numbers the JH has put up… but i know that i must temper that with the realization that not every year do you get a carmelo, durant or KL coming into college basketball. but i am afraid that JH might think a bit too highly of himself, honestly. there are many plays where when he obviously forces the ball up or does a ridiculous jump pass and he doesn’t even seem to acknowledge his mistake. and it seems like he’s not really taking to CBH’s instructions at times (not that I think coach is perfect either, ND on derozan?!?). I’m just afraid that this might be the impetus for JH to jump early because it’s painfully clear he needs to come back. not for us as fans but to mature his game. the total lack of “one more year” chants at pauley are deafening.
one more thing, to get on DC’s back about one bad game when he has been killing the opposition for three solid years is completely RIDICULOUS. please, all you guys need to watch more than one game if you are going to go at DC.
by lilbobdog on Mar 14, 2009 1:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree about DC
He is one of my favorite all time Bruins. He gives his all and his heart to this program and I love him for that. He has his off nights like everyone else. Let’s hope this was his last one as a Bruin!
by uclafan11 on Mar 14, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope DC makes it to the pros.
When i go to a Laker game or watch a Laker game. It’s great to hear them mention UCLA. That goes to show you that we produce great talent. Especially when i watch a OKC Thunder and the LAkers. See four Bruins on the court. That’s UCLA representing great BRUIN NATION.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 1:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep perspective: Ultimately, this was a GAME. Not REAL LIFE!
Whether we win or lose, I’m not going to dwell on it. I know a lot of us are sad, mad, dissapointed that we lost to SUC. That’s simply the nature of sports. I watched my beloved Dodgers sweep the Cubs last year, only to lose to the Phillies. I watched the Lakers take it to the Finals last year…. only to be embaressed by the Celtics. If I had it my way, we’d have won out, but things don’t always go the way you think they will.
I like what someone said many years ago that touched me. This was after 9/11 and the Yankees were playing the DBacks in the World Series: If the world were perfect, the Yankees would’ve won the World Series and given a great lift to the city of New York. But, the world isn’t perfect, and not everything ends the way we want it.
On the same note, I remember what I read in the newspapers afterwards. It was from Mariano Rivera and he said something poignant: That if the Yankees had won, his good friend Enrique Wilson would have been on the plane to the Dominican Republic that crashed into Queens a couple days later. And that he would have chosen to lose every time he had the chance if it meant that people weren’t lost.
I realize a lot of us, myself included, have become very emotionally invested into the team, and UCLA in general. And it’s always tough to lose to SUC. But today really put things into perspective for me.
Today, I was laid off, largely due to the nature of the economy and things going on in real life. Even though I had made peace with the fact that it was likely to happen, it’s tough, but it’s really put into perspective to me what winning or losing means – it’s all just a game. No matter what ESPN, or any other sports networks want to hype up about sports, it isn’t reality – only an escape from it. There’s plenty more to life than wondering whether we win or lose.
When it comes down it, it’s just sports. I’ve got family, friends, and plenty of other things to think about, things that will personally affect me and those around me. It’s tough, and it’s frustrating, but for the first time in a long time I realized that winning or losing, in the end, those aren’t the things that matter to me in real life.
by blinkshot on Mar 14, 2009 1:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am really sorry to hear this blink
If there is any way we can help you please let us know. You have a vast network of Bruin alums, students and fans to tap into here and please feel free to use it. That’s what community is all about. Hang in there.
by Nestor on Mar 14, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was the worst case scenario
Not only did we lose, but more importantly it looks like Gordon is probably injured. Collison also seemed hurt after he was steamrolled by fouled Hackett.
If there’s one plus, it’s that Anderson, Lee and Holiday were pretty effective together in the last couple minutes.
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 14, 2009 1:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DC was hurt long before anything with Hackett
He was in pain after last night’s game and had to get treatment all day today just to be able to play and it showed. I love that he wanted to play, but I can’t help but wonder if it would have been wiser to sit him this weekend and get him healthy for the NCAA Tournament.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 14, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that sense it's not all bad that we lost
get at least one more day of rest for everyone.
by dokein on Mar 14, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a tribute to your program, I’m amazed at the amount of interest in this game by you Bruins. The game didn’t mean all that much to you guys in the big picture. I actually hope you guys do well in the tourney. Go Pac 10, love to beat you guys in bb, doesn’t happen often.
by trojanhors on Mar 14, 2009 1:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
See, this is what i've been trying to say. It SUCKS cause we lost to SUC.
Bruins love to see SUC lose and SUC wants loves to see us lose. That’s what makes going to UCLA or SUC different from other universities. There is tradition, history, and rivalry. The rivalry makes watching the two schools go at it more exciting. i can separate that from what goes on from reality. But, for those two hours or that season of BB or FB it is pretty cool to be a part of a tradition. Cheering for your team and hating SUC.. It’s just sports but having this makes it more exciting. It’s not just being a bandwagon fan. It’s about being a Bruin or a SUC.
by bheesting on Mar 14, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO bheesting above me: oj mayo did have grades he got a 29 on the act…95th percentile. im a huge bruin fan/alumni but its wrong to come in here and talk about a kid being “dumb” w/o the facts…give credit where its due. we got beat by a team which had less talent b/c they had more intensity. lets not blame the loss on grades. he have better players…name one player on sc that we recruited. not a one
by yayregulator on Mar 14, 2009 1:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
You should check your own punctuation/grammar before posting. Part of the reason we didn’t recruit their players is that they just are not UCLA material. The coaches and recruiters know that way in advance. Academics and all around character are important at UCLA.
by uclafan11 on Mar 14, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure the real reason why Howland didn’t recruit Mayo very hard, if at all, was the people that Mayo surrounded himself with. Some players, like Mayo and Sidney, just aren’t worth the trouble. Howland isn’t one who would sell out his principles for a great player.
by chenalex on Mar 14, 2009 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and...
he doesn’t need the NCAA sniffing around his program. We don’t “own the police” like some other schools.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silver Lining
To me the silver lining isn’t the fact that this loss provided even more fodder for yet another “coachable moment”. We’ve already had so many of those this season! No, I would say that the silver lining is the fact that DC will get to rest his sore back. He is such an integral part of this team and he clearly was not himself today. DC should not have played and I would certainly have been disappointed if he had played tomorrow. We will need DC in the tournament.
by bruin8uclap on Mar 14, 2009 1:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I felt that if DC was completely healthy, he would’ve had more lift on his shots, he would’ve been able to change directions quicker which would’ve have cut down on turnovers, and he would have been more in control with his body when he drove.
DC might not have wanted to use his injuries as an excuse, but I think it’s perfectly legitimate.
by chenalex on Mar 14, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rye said it above
I don’t know where he got his information, but he’s pretty in tune with the happenings in Morgan Center so I trust his info. Now, if he was getting treatment all day just to be able to play today, then I’m way more concerned about that than last night’s loss. The last thing we need is for our PG to start thinking about his injuries in the games that matter, and even had we won last night, I think I would have preferred DC sit out not just last night but in today’s game as well.
by Tydides on Mar 14, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm bummed too
and I was at the game and had to hear those obnoxious trOJan chants both during and well after the game. But you know what? I think the big dance will be different. Our guys had their LAST wake up call tonight. It may be for the better. I didn’t like the win against wazzu because I felt like it made us lower our guard. DC’s quote that he could “turn on the switch” only confirms this. We needed this humbling loss. Hopefully it was just a necessary evil. Game on. Last chance to dance. GO BRUINS.
by UCLAbruin920 on Mar 14, 2009 3:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Nestor!
“At this point I don’t really care what happens with this UCLA team.” All I can say is WOW. Never expected to see those words here.
by kballs on Mar 14, 2009 5:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LA Times cover
How lovely that we made the cover of the fishwrap this morning (Saturday) with a telling image: ND getting fouled by Derozan in spite of SC’s win. Gee, I don’t remember us being on the cover of the Times a few weeks ago when we beat them at Galen Center, or when we trounced them at Pauley…if there was any doubt that The Times is in SC’s back pocket, this will nix that.
by daggy on Mar 14, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
for the people who are so offended
by the harsh comments and criticism, just think how tough Howland’s going to be on them and himself. This is nothing. Or at least it better be that way behind closed doors. That was not a good effort or coaching job. It happens. At least the college game is better than the pro game and we get mostly good, exciting games except for some like the second ASU game and last night.
Watching this team this season it’s apparent that Howland did a good job getting the wins he did with an undersized and young team. It’s not over yet and maybe they can surprise but they have to bring it and want it more. It seems to me though that all an opponent’s coach has to do is watch the two ASU games and last night to know what to do against us. I don’t have the answers but it seems the effort on defense sometimes and a stagnant offense is our main problem, and rebounds, which is size and blocking guys out.
by bruin95 on Mar 14, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is UCLA Basketball
I had a feeling that suc had a good chance to beat the Bruins. They were in super desperation mode and we were playing for momentum and a better seed. Just watching the other elite teams from the other conferences get beaten early in their tourneys, tells me that it does not only happen to UCLA. We don’t hang PAC-10 tourney champ banners at Pauley. I agee with Nestor, that we didn’t come out with the fire, that’s why I preferred that we played ASU the 2nd round (revenge is a big motivation-e.g. WSU). I knew it was hard to expect the Bruins to beat the trojies 3 times in one season.
It is apparent that Floyd and his cronies-trojies know how to play against us (look at the stats from the last 3-4 years). Even though we have won most of them, the games were close (except the thrashing at Pauley this year). These guys play with each other during the summer leagues.
I agree with those that say DC will take us as far as can in the NCAA Tourney (he was rubbing his backside yesterday-lingering injury?). There is no doubt the other teams in the tourney will try to take him out of our offense (e.g. UW and suc games).
My hope is that we win convincingly in our first game, somehow survive the 2nd round game (we had to survive Alabama, Indiana, Texas A&M the last 3 years). Once we are in the sweet 16, we will need monster-miracle games ala Gonzaga-06, Kansas-07, Memphis-06, and then we will be in Detroit for the Final 4.
We’ll need focus, teamwork, excellent game planning, MAD DEFENSE, and lots of luck.
Who needs the PAC-10 tourney, let’s get ready for the Big Dance!
Go Bruins!
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Mar 14, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its not the loss
Beating a team as athletically talented as SUC three times in a row is difficult. The problem is how we lost. We were manhandled. We had a poor game plan, and we didn’t even execute that well.
NDs defense took yet another step back. There is no reason for him to be starting if he can’t defend man to man. If CBH wants to start him, we better start playing a zone because he is too slow to react for man to man coverage. He scores 10, but gives up 25, doesn’t rebound even thought he is a tall 4 with long arms, doesn’t box out, and rarely contests inside shots.
DC walking the ball up the court is not the right tempo to set for this team, nor is the passing around the top of the key for 20 seconds of the shot clock. This team has got to play quick, substitute frequently, trap, play harassing defense and attack the rim. We do very little of that.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Mar 14, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
very dissappointed but we still have one last chance....
Having a night to digest this lost, it made it easier to not be as angry and disappointed as last night. Remember in the AA final four year, we lost in round 1 as a 1 seed to Cal, so all hope is not lost. Plus DC gets to rest his injured tailbone…
Those are the silver linings. The more pressing issues are the fact that if we don’t shoot the ball well we are very vulnerable in the tournament and jump shooting teams tend to sooner or later get in a game like last night where shots just don’t fall. I know bad shooting will tend to kill most teams and i think that’s why our prior teams did so well in the tournament – they always had the D to fall back on so if we had poor shooting game the score would not start pulling away from us (think the Memphis game)
Another issue was when suc made their little spurt in the 2nd half to essentially put the game away, jh shot us right out of the game. We needed an answer during that stretch – and truthfully i rather 1 of the 3 seniors rise up in those situations because we’re only going as far as those 3 take us. i love jrue but he just hasnt shown that special something to be able to takeover as a freshman all year. I still hope he comes back.
I haven’t given up on this team – dont think i can but like Nestor i’m prepared for a possible short exit next week. We just don’t have that fiery leader who refuses to lose emerge this year – both dc and js just dont have the personality for it an paa just doesnt seem like he would be one to get in the face of a teammate to expect some accountability. On another board, a poster stated during the game that CBH should just pull everyone and play all the freshman to prepare for next year. I hope it was just emotions because that is just ridiculous – if you think this year is bad, i think next year we’re going to be even more inconsistent and will be a true “rebuiliding” year. Keep the faith. I’m sure the seniors realize this is it – its do or die. I don’t mind if we don’t win it all or lose in the tourney as long as every single bruin leaves it all on the court. As a great man stated, “success is a peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you made the effort to become the best that you are capable of becoming”.
by ASTROBOY on Mar 14, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was extemely dissapointed with this team last night
How do you not show up for this game? We had a shot at a potential 3 seed as well as an opportunity to end SuC’s season. We were out hustled and outworked, and it showed. Not a good way to enter March Madness.
by Ajax on Mar 14, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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