NCAA Selection Show: Ben Ball Open Thread
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
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In less than half hour we get to find out where and against whom we will get to see this next:
Photo Credit: E. Corpuz
For those who are tracking "bracketology" projects from various networks you can visit WWL, CNNSI, and Sportsline.com (CBS).
You should be able to print out the brackets by going here.
If you are wondering what goes on during the discussion sessions of NCAA selection show committee, check out the Q&A with Dan Guerrero (who is a member of the committee) via Jill Painter in the Daily News. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone here, but still amusing to read:
DN: You have to excuse yourself when the committee discuses UCLA. What do you do during that time?
DG: I usually go into the room with the flat screen TVs or go into my room for the most part. Sometimes, it's five minutes or 10 minutes and other times it's an hour.
As mentioned earlier today, we will leave it up to you guys for all the looking ahead and tips on filling out the brackets.
Enjoy.
GO BRUINS.
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interesting projections form those sites
maybe its not updated but CNN actually still has Arizona making it in, I just cant see that happening. I hope we wind up in the west, lunardi has out in the east…i guess that assuming they try to avoid a potential 4 vs. 5 washington UCLA match up in the west….I like the prospect of a potential Gonzaga rematch…we’ll just have to see
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzaga v. Washington
I think our placement is going to have a lot to do with this particular matchup. If the tourney committee decides that Gonzaga is the superior West Coast team and deserves to stay in the region, then I can certainly see us getting a 5 out here as well. If it’s U-Dub that gets the nod, we’ll be shipped somewhere east of the Mississippi.
by bruinmike on Mar 15, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
watching the ESPN Gameday shows
this morning the guys on the set (it included some guys i respect, like Lunardi and Bilas, and some i don’t such as Digger) all seemed to think that while Arizona might be the best bubble team out there, they don’t have the best resume. I don’t think any of us would argue that Zona is a hell of a team when all the parts are working together. It’s just a matter of getting wins, and UA didn’t do that earlier in the year
The general consensus on the show was that Arizona should be in. The only one who disagreed was Lunardi (who btw was 65/65 predicting the field last year). He said they were good enough but didn’t get the wins they needed
by bucknellbruin on Mar 15, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought some were saying though that
Miss. St.’s win virtually knocks AZ out…we shall see though
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giving me strongly mixed feelings
On one hand, the thought of The Standard missing the NCAA’s gives me some joy, but I would like to see the mildcats bolster the Pac-10’s representation in the tourney.
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I want them to miss it and bust the streak.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't exactly be crying myself to sleep if they miss ;)
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
conference pride
I used to care about it a bit … not as much now.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only care about conference pride
because of the grotesque east coast bias
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoping to stay out West
But I doubt we’ll be so fortunate.
by bruinmike on Mar 15, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought the Lakers had choked this one away
Trevor hasn’t let it happen.
KOBE FOR 3! 12-0 run!
by bruinmike on Mar 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick question re. Lakers
Is Bynum expected back for the playoffs?
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be back before then
As far as working himself back in, there’s no timetable on that obviously
by Tydides on Mar 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's good to know
I am really shocked at how well they have played (I am judging by the box scores I check often) without him.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly
Some reports say March 30 actually.
by bruinmike on Mar 15, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they interviewed him today
he said hes running and only feeling some soreness moving left, expected to be back 2 weeks…but after last year im expecting the worst
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but that just seems disrespectful
a 6 in philly? thats a hack job, someone has it out for us
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN CLassic
The Texas victory of $c in the Rose Bowl is on. 39 seconds left – never gets old… :)
GO LAKERS, GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thank godness for u$c
that’s almost as sarcastic as it sounds. but our 2-1 record against the Pac-10 conference champs actually helps us – more than had ASU won it. and it may even contribute to keeping the standard out.. guess every cloud has a silver lining.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on Mar 15, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pac 10 Tournament champs
Conference champ is Washington.
by Tydides on Mar 15, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not as fun when we are not competing for a 1 seed
by trainwreck84 on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Louisville got the #1 overall seed
A decision which would have been surprising a few days ago, but their Big East tourney performance plus the impact of Ty Lawson’s injury on UNC opened toe door.
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Memphis
didn’t get it. I agree with those #1 seeds.
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind them
Always had a soft spot for Danny Crum.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not like that they only played Pitt and UConn once
by trainwreck84 on Mar 15, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, the grossly unbalanced schedule in the Big East complicates matters
However, they won both the regular season and conference tourney. That should earn them the lead spot among Big East teams, at least.
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lousiville, UNC, UConn and Pitt - #1's
UConn got the #1 west seed
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be
a year where only one or two #1s make it to the Final Four?
by Bruin15 on Mar 15, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ya i feel like this
year more than ever, there arent alot of clear cut favorites, although now that i think that this will be the year all the 1s make it hah
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UNC could exit early if they dont turn the "switch."
by Bruin15 on Mar 15, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they exit early
If there will be cries among UNC fanbase about how Williams will need to change his defensive scheme?
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone else noticed
anytime they show some video graphic so far in the background, its been Florida’s win over us in the national championship…what gives, this isn’t football season, why is CBS riding the SEC so hard, theyll be lucky to get 3 or 4 teams in the tourny this year
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
but just before I saw Collison pass to Shipp for a MONSTER dunk over ND! Love that! :)
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that many only b/c of Miss St's upset this afternoon
SEC really only has 2 teams that should be in (LSU + Tenn)
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if we're in the west and reach the sweet sixteen
We’d play UConn in Phoenix?
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else's
heart pounding with every spot revealed? MAN!
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Arizona is in
12 seed, likely the last of the bubble teams
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh wow
arizona made it in, as a 12 seed no less
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Agreed. That was a “reputation” pick.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya but ill root for them
i always go for pac 10 in the tourney
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question is
Do you think the fanbase of these other teams root for UCLA?
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they certainly gave
Illinois our seed
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better record in a better conference
We got screwed. And both teams got shipped away from home too.
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Thats a history pick right there. As in they got in based off their history
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SC gets the 10 seed
playing BC in the 1st round
by bruinhoo on Mar 15, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice 5-12 matchup!
Kiss one west coast team after the first round good bye.
by Bruin15 on Mar 15, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THat's a rough bracket to be in
Louisville as #1 with Wake Forest, Kansas, MSU in the same bracket
by blinkshot on Mar 15, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
didnt even realize
That WVU, BC and USC are in there
Any of those teams being on can be an upset
by blinkshot on Mar 15, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm rooting for BC
Go (golden?) Eagles!
by Tydides on Mar 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dayton vs WVU
should be a good game i think
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
west region up next
everyone keep your fingers crossed
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We won't be in it
We don’t deserve to be.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you never know
we didnt really think AZ would be in but they did as a 10, maybe the same luck will rub off on us
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a question of "deserve"
It’s more getting lucky on the “S” curve.
by Tydides on Mar 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're in the West
I’ll take it, but that means they screwed up.
by gilbert on Mar 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One Region down
The West is NEXT. Keeping ALL my fingers crossed…
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watch Cal not get in
in favor of Arizona
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
With AZ making it
There goes Linaurdi’s perfect bracket
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still
ASU deserved to be in last year. It seems like the Pac-10’s not good enough to get 6 teams.
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad
It has to be sad if the camera crew is at your school and you dont get an invite
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
REALLY favorable seeding/placement
for UW
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
Now it looks like we may be in Boise with Gonzaga?
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, did UDub get screwed with that 13
Miss State’s a dangerous team
by CAJason80 on Mar 15, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like your right
If that’s true do we stay in Boise for the first two rounds?
by Sideout11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't sleep on Missisippi State
THey were the closest to beating Memphis last year outside of Kansas
by blinkshot on Mar 15, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
California vs. Maryland
is also dangerous for Cal
by blinkshot on Mar 15, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maryland/?
This committee is high as fuck
by trainwreck84 on Mar 15, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
when theyre on
they are dangerous though
O.A.
by Ollie on Mar 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cal-Maryland
that should be a very interesting game.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
we don’t get in Boise either. Looks like I am going to be traveling a long way!
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bet we're the 5 in the South
Pretty much nowhere else for us to go at this point.
by CAJason80 on Mar 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still 4 more games in Portland left
1st round sites rotate?
Or did both Portland pods get announced and I miss it?
by gilbert on Mar 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Gonzaga will be the 4 seed in boise with us as the 5
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
so there are more spots in Portland and Boise. That’s right – 8 teams at each site.
by uclafan11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cakewalk for Memphis to another final four, I think.
they deserved the #1 over Ucon.
by haster123 on Mar 15, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
UCLA vs Pitt
I think they might be setting it up for a potential UCLA Pitt game
by wingsabre on Mar 15, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
idk if they deserved it
over Ucon they really didnt play anyone outside their conference and were 4-2 against top 50.
but i agree way too easy for them.
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here it goes
Storylines? UCLA-Gonzaga…Howland vs. Dixon
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
easy
for Pitt to win out that top half of the bracket
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a tought 8-9 draw for Pitt
Both Ok. St. and Tenn are dangerous teams.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
5 seed in the South
that’s what we are getting.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's UCLA Gonzaga
The committee could not resist
by Tydides on Mar 15, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont kno
i think they could handle them, but you’re right about the teams nestor
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean
I guess we still have Portland with Gonzga
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow theyre already calling the upset
over us? no love today
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened
to moving teams up and down to keep them closer to home
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ken Pomeroy
VCU: 55th
Villanova: 19th
UCLA: 9th
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see us making pass the second round
not sure if we even will get to second round.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And there we have it - we can't be coasting through the season
and expect to “turn it on” come tournament time without getting slammed by the committee. This is less than good.
B.F.
by eubruin on Mar 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we win that first game ...
I think I will definitely go to the second one but with DC’s health and Thursday game .. I am not sure if its happening.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
touche
interesting though how they moved FSU all the way to boise and moved us to Phili. Could have switched that around to make for less headache for everyone
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully .....
the team will take this seeding/placent as a bit of an insult, and come out fired upto prove all the naysayers (LIKE THE ONES ON THIS BOARD) wrong.
by haster123 on Mar 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
We got completely screwed
by BruinFanBaby on Mar 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We screwed ourselves
in the tournament
by Sideout11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
interestgin
how they moved FSU all the way to boise and moved us to Phili. Could have switched that around to make for less headache for everyone
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats what im saying
They are supposed to move teams up or down a liine to keep them playing closer to home
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be
by far the biggest test any CBH team has faced. Let’s hope the freshman learn a valuable lesson about leaving nothing to chance
by Sideout11 on Mar 15, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why not put
univ. illinois in phili
and us in portland?
by uclabruin34 on Mar 15, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my biggest problem
is illinois at the 5
i mean come on i live in illinois. just ridiculous they laid down and died in their tournament as well and have been ranked lower than ucla all season and now for some reason they have the 5 seed…
by millikinbruin on Mar 15, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Umm
And their point guard is hurt….They make exceptions for players who have been hurt and rejoin their teams. They should knock teams down for losing players
by lil eg not cs on Mar 15, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas & Duke in our portion of the bracket...
Reminds me of our preaseason tourneys
by bruinbunz on Mar 15, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Entire PAC 10 got dissed on the seedings
UW, reg season champs with a 4? Both us and ASU are 6’s?
AZ got a gift, tho
by Give me a B... on Mar 15, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only quality wins are against UW and Cal. What did you guys expect.
The committee showed us no favors. The four letters on the jersey and a buck will get us a cup of coffee and an invitation to Philly. Nestor, yell loud and bring friends. You and a few east coast Bruins will have your hands full.
by 84 on Mar 15, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not true
Quality wins at least extend to USC and Arizona.
by BruinsRule on Mar 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the negativity. LETS GO BRUINS!
Lets shut up seth davis.. Howland will scout VCU hard and hopefully we won’t sleep walk. If we win Nova in Philly is tough draw, but who knows
by realfabfive on Mar 15, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
We got a lower seed AND an unfavorable draw.
I can’t believe Cal is a 7 and UCLA is a 6 in Philly with Villanova.
by Raisin on Mar 15, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't hate on this
Like 84 mentioned, this is what we got for how we performed. I personally thought we were looking at a 5 seed out East or in the South, but I’ll live with this. The odds are stacked against us enough for us to make everyone recognize what UCLA is all about. We’re going to prevail. Let’s go, Bruins!
by deepdish on Mar 15, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not too worried about our first round match-up,
Howland will take care of business against VCU. I am worried about Villanova. This is not a good matchup for us. Time to show what you are made of Gentlemen! Let’s go Bruins.
B.F.
by eubruin on Mar 15, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Committee Gives the Middle Finger to the Pac-10
Seriously, this is the only interpretation of the brackets. The Pac-10 champ gets a 4 seed, which is unprecedented. The 2nd and 3rd teams get sent to the east coast as 6 seeds. UCLA is 25-8 in the Pac-10. Utah is 24-9 in the Mountain West. Utah pulls the 5 seed, and we get a 6. I’ll have more thoughts later, but this overall is a big slap in the face to the Pac-10.
by BruinsRule on Mar 15, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Utah beat Gonzaga
Illinois? WTF?
by SuperBruinMan on Mar 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
truthfully
after all the thanksgiving tournaments i have be adamant in my believe that there is no dominant team or any team that is that great in standing out to me. every team has played terribly and been beaten by someone you wouldnt expect. we obviously havent had a perfect season but some of these teams you’ve got to be kidding me…
this illinois thing is really going to bother me u of i fans are relentlessly annoying and i could do with out it….
by millikinbruin on Mar 15, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow so mad i cant type i guess
please ignore my typos *belief
by millikinbruin on Mar 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm from Chicago
Agreed on the Illinois thing.
I’m currently in a “debate” on a Cubs message board about who is better – Weber or Howland. Ridiculous.
by Raisin on Mar 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - I'm surprised
Let me tell you – I’ve been to Nova games and they are tough. They are ranked pretty far below us in Pomeroy’s rankings (and only have one more win) yet they get ranked 3 seeds higher than us and get to play at home? Something isn’t right here.
Obviously for me, it’s great that I live in Philly but I work with a bunch of Nova grads so this might not be too fun. Forget that though – let’s beat VCU first, that looks tough enough. I wasn’t super encouraged before the draw – now I’m downright scared.
Here’s my main problem. The Big East is clearly great this year – they are extremely top heavy and have a bunch of teams that could theoretically win the national championship. But honestly, they got 3 one seeds and are positioned to totally dominate. The Pac-10 got completely screwed. I’m obviously a stat guy – and I can’t help but point out the fact that Pac-10 is ranked ahead of the Big East. I mean come on. I would have expected something a little more fair. My opponents would say “just prove you’re better on the court” but it’s hard for the Pac-10 to do that when they were given so many unfavorable matchups. Really unfortunate.
All we can do is keep our heads up though.
by zinlinez on Mar 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New thread is up
Put all your VCU impressions there.
by Nestor on Mar 15, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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