Re. Holiday: Let The Emotions Settle, Don't Jump To Conclusions
I would suggest people not to get too excited about following comments from JH after yesterday's loss: "Right now, I'm leaning toward coming back here, most definitely," Holiday said. "I want to finish what we started off. We have a great freshman class coming in and I love these guys. They're my brothers now. "I don't want to leave the freshmen that are here now. We have a great bond, a great chemistry. It's going to be good next year." If anyone needs a reminder how much these post games comments here was AA after Bruin's Final-4 loss in April of 2007: After Saturday's emotional loss, Afflalo seemed certain to consider playing his senior season. Most NBA draft prediction sites have Afflalo as no better than a late first-round pick and most have him in the second round. We all know what happened afterwards. So I don't really see any point in getting hopes up (or down) at this point of time. JH himself gave himself an out after the above reference comments: "There's certain things that if I hear, and they're good deals and all that," Holiday said, "some stuff you just can't back down from." And Coach Howland himself is pointing toward a deliberate process wrt to JH's ultimate decision in coming weeks: "I will tell the parents and Jrue what I think, but ultimately it comes down to his decision, and their decision. They have to be able to weigh all the factors, and where he would be if he came out now, and where he wants to be." One thing I can say that if I were to write a post on next year's core of Ben Ball warriors, I would write assuming that JH will not return next season. In this kind of situations, I always assume players are going to leave, because it makes for pleasant surprises when kids decide to stay. But that's just me. I know I wrote in the title of this post asking people not to jump to conclusions. I wrote that so that people don't get too excited in making too much out of post game comments about whether or not a kid is going to jump to NBA (forgoing the possibility of making millions) after a tough loss. I will have more thoughts on yesterday's game early tomorrow am. GO BRUINS.
The lure of playing with Love next season, of keeping intact a team that didn't have a senior, appeals to Afflalo's deep sense of responsibility.
"I have a lot of respect for my teammates, the coaching staff, the university that's done a lot for me," Afflalo said. "Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for some good things. Coming back next year is something I have to think about. But my sole purpose in coming to UCLA was to win a national championship. I'm still intent on doing that."
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Here's one thing I will say
CBH mentions the deliberate process, and I have no doubt that the second the offseason started, he is working in the interest of what is best for Jrue. While what is best for Jrue and what is best for the program may end up being different, doing the right thing and giving his players all the advantages he has at his disposal pays dividends later in the form of trust with his players and trust with recruits. I would be shocked to ever see a Cheatey Petey-Mark Sanchez type press conference in the CBH era.
That's a very good point
And yeah, I think we all kind of shifted into “Yeah, well, come back next year Nova and THEN WE’LL SEE WHAT’S UP!” mode right after the loss. In this economic enviornment, you have to leave open the possibility that Jrue could leave just to get his guaranteed early-second-round money and not take any risks. That’s definitely a possibility, and I’m pretty sure he’s at least going to put his name into the draft to gauge his position.
Still, I should point this out: Afflalo was the 2007 Pac-10 player of the year and easily our best player that season, and on all NBA mock draft sites was considered a top 15-25 pick in a loaded draft the entire season. Jrue isn’t even listed on any 2009 mock drafts, and he arguably wasn’t even one of the three best players on our team this last year (he was only our fifth-leading scorer). He has to know that with a full season of playing the point, his stock will skyrocket. In Afflalo’s case, I don’t know if staying in school for another year would have boosted his stock at all, considering that his role in the offense would likely take a hit with Love coming in.
Well
Nestor, both you and I have posted that we felt that at times he was playing like someone who had limited desire to return. I think we have to admit that we underestimated Holiday’s character just because he doesn’t act fiery.
In that vein, I was very excited to see him say that. Clearly he could draft very high and make the decision to leave (the right personal decision because of the impending 2011 year), but he is definitely considering demonstrating more of his potential and increasing his draft next year as well. I think Jrue Holiday is a “cool” character, and so his leaning right after a loss is possibly more meaningful than AA (a more emotional character)’s leaning.
I am the same way
I have to assume Jrue is gone until the deadline passes without his name on the list. That being said, I would be surprised if his draft evaluation is positive enough for him to conclude that leaving now is in his best interest. I have been one of Jrue’s biggest supporters, but it’s unprecedented for a freshman who has average size, athleticism and quickness (by nba standards) to go to the nba without having shown some ability to dominate in college. Jrue, for all of the good things he has done, is far from dominant. He has not shown an adequate handle, finishing ability or outside shot for an nba point guard. He has not had the opportunity to show that he is a great point guard at the college level. It’s hard to imagine someone using a first round pick on those credentials.
I like your style..
..Nestor.
(I have been lurking out here owing to an incredible workload over the last eight months, but I am compelled to comment.)
Last year I was somewhat dismayed by your pessimism over KL and the others jumping to the NBA but, after factoring it in, I saw that yours is an interesting blend of optimism and pessimism. You seem to counsel against counting one’s chickens before thay’re hatched but once they emerge fromt he shells, beam proudly and proclaim them the finest in the land.
Forgive the tortured metaphor, but I can live with that.
..now, if we can only get/develop some big bodies inside so this young crew has a chance to shine.
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
On tortured metaphors
You seem to counsel against counting one’s chickens before thay’re hatched but once they emerge fromt he shells, beam proudly and proclaim them the finest in the land.
Forgive the tortured metaphor, but I can live with that.
I know. You’re working on this year’s Bulwer-Lytton contest entry, right?
Shocked!
I am shocked that JH goin to the draft is even being considered. Did anyone watch the games this year. He clearly has talent but was awful this season. Sure he could put up double digits on a weak D every once and a while but his basketball IQ still needs to improve, his D needs polishing, he turned the ball over far to much, and IS INCAPABLE OF FINISHING AROUND THE BASKET. How many layups did he miss in the 2 tourney games alone? Frankly, he should have lost his starting spot.Granted he may have been out of position at the 2 but then why would any NBA team want him before he has proven himself at the 1? Weak draft class and all I cant see how him going to the draft is beneficial for anyone!
He was awful?
Take a chill pill buddy. He should have lost his starting spot? To whom?
You are sounding spoiled and ungrateful. Stop giving credence to the Lavin complaints.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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