On-the-Horizon ANALYSIS: Post-Holiday Plan?
With the water-is-wet news that Jrue Holiday is going to test the NBA waters, several in MSM and here have wondered about our backcourt depth and who will be back up JA at point guard.
Well, it is way, way, WAY too early to guess, but I'm thinking that JA at point guard should not necessarily be a foregone conclusion.
Instead, I think that we should consider a lineup where ML is our starting point. After all, ML is NOT new to the position. Per the Scout.com recruiting page on ML: (emphasis added)
[ML] can be a big timer. The ability to maneuver in traffic and get to where he needs to be is excellent. Will go on big runs from the outside. Can improve his body and tighten his handle. On the road to being a very elite point guard and good scorer.
Now, granted, recruiting site bios are a dime a dozen (or $29.95 and up per year), but even ML's high school coach said (emphasis added) that point guard is ML's "natural position":
In the four years since he arrived at North, Lee has impressed Coach Mike Bartee as much with his unselfishness as his uncanny court vision and quick first step to the basket. When North lost several top big men before the season, Lee, who is 6-foot-5, volunteered to switch to center for the Huskies, playing out of position for the rest of the season because that's where the team needed him most.
Lee still put up gaudy statistics as a senior, averaging 23.7 points per game and grabbing 7.4 rebounds among taller, stronger kids. He led the Huskies to the CIF-Southern Section Division 1-A quarterfinals, where their fourth-quarter comeback against Glendora fell two points short.
"You put Malcolm on a team where he can play his natural position and he's 10 times more effective," Bartee said. "He's a natural point guard, and he played totally out of position. I appreciate it big time because he put team before self."
One of my pet theories on hoops is that I am usually opposed to having your #1 AND #2 PGs starting at the same time. Fatigue, bench rotation, confusion on defensive rotations, foul trouble, playing out of position -- all of these are potential pitfalls when starting 2 PGs at once. We probably saw a lot of that with DC and JH this year, already.
Overall, I think ML can be/ is one of our best players going into next season.
Don’t get me wrong, JA has the tools -- quickness, handle, good attitude -- and I do believe he will improve significantly next season… but again, I don’t like having both points on the floor to start the game. In crunch time like Tyus and Cameron in '95, maybe, but not at the outset.
With that in mind, how is THIS for a potential starting lineup next year?
C — Gordon — 6’9", 235
PF — Keefe — 6’8", 235
SF — Drago — 6’9", 215
SG — Roll — 6’5", 215
PG — Lee — 6’5", 205
Caveat: this would hinge ENTIRELY on whether Drago can put in a full summer of workouts and improve his defensive rotations. I know, I know, I KNOW that we have debated Drago’s lack of defensive footspeed around here for WEEKS.
Then again, nobody predicted that Drago would EVER average 5-6 boards a game last year… and he DID. Believe me, I was as surprised as anyone on that front. If Drago can devote his summer to improving his lateral slides and reaction time, the same way he worked on improving his shooting consistency and rebounding, then watch out below.
If we start the above lineup, we get serious advantages:
(1) Backcourt size — Can anyone remember when we started a both-6-5 backcourt? Didn’t think so. Malcolm’s hustle and length and Roll’s experience in CBH’s schemes should do wonders to negate any possible lack of waterbug quickness. Worse comes to worst, we bring in JA to check smaller guards and fight pace with pace, but at least we START with the size advantage, for a change.
(2) Frontcourt size — 6’9", 6’8", and 6’9". That’s 242 inches of frontcourt. For a team built on rebounding and defense, it always struck me as odd that we started a 6’5" SF. Granted, with the PF spot manned in past years by LMRAM, aka the Big Yellow Taxi ("Don't it always seem to go/ that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone?"), that hasn't been an issue. However, I don’t know if we can do that anymore and still keep our rebounding margins high. Some extra height wouldn't hurt.
(3) Offensive balance — OK, what do we have with this lineup…
Two outside shooters? Drago and Roll, CHECK.
Mid-range game? Roll has shown that even in limited minutes, CHECK.
Penetrator? Malcolm, CHECK.
Low-post scorer? Gordon was showing a bit more of a pure post game than PAA, and Drago was also showing some down the stretch, so CHECK.
Clean-up/ putback guy? Keefe, CHECK.
By contrast, what did we have this past season? Let’s look in reverse.
Clean-up/ putback guy? PAA, definite CHECK.
Low-post scorer? Eh… sort of. PAA’s points came more on putbacks or midrange game. NOPE.
Penetrator? Not consistently. We screamed for DC for weeks to do it; JH STOPPED doing it halfway thru Pac-10 season. (ML will be another big X factor here, too.) HALF-CHECK.
Mid-range game? Josh and PAA. CHECK.
Two outside shooters? Drago and Josh and DC, DEFINITE CHECK.
In other words, we had tons of outside and mid-range, but little to no inside or penetration. Even one consistent, year-long penetrator, or a year-long inside player, would be an improvement on last year.
While certainly not an improvement in terms of experience, I think DG and ML at least will not serve as a drop-off in either of these areas. DG tried at least two post moves in every game, even in his limited minutes, and ML cut to the basket in every single game. Assuming he hasn't lost his PG handles and can move WITH the ball, his size and strength may make him a more aggressive (if not immediately better) penetrator than DC was for most of the last P10 season.
Again, this is a way-on-the-horizon view... but wouldn't it be nice to have a couple of size advantages at the PG and SF spots over other teams in the Tournament, as opposed to the other way around?
M
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I like it.
I did not know that ML played the point before. Makes perfect sense. Plus we get another player on the floor with a lot experience (MR).
ML can play the point and likely will at the next level
but I’m going to continue with my RW comparison. He’s so much like RW that it scares me sometimes and I think he’ll be a 2 next year like RW was with us. He will play some point as the backup and can handle the ball when necessary too, but will primarily be a 2.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
That would be my starting five...
…at the beginning of next season. I prefer ML over JA at the point, too. ML is bigger, gets to the rim easier and plays better D. I also like MR starting at the 2 so that we have two 6-5’s in the backcourt — one that can penetrate and one that can shoot the 3. JA will be a solid backup PG. If BoBo develops during the season, he could challenge for a starting spot later. I am not sure, however, that we have all the ingredients of a balance offense just yet. I don’t see a mid-range guy yet. I often cringed when MR came inside the 3-point circle. Perhaps Honeycutt by mid-year? Low post scoring will still be a challenge even though I agree that Gordon has potential.
I'm a little wary
of placing ML at point, at least right now. I have no doubt that down the road he can and probably will be a very good one, but I just don’t think it fits our system. The NBA craves tall, athletic, slashing, scoring point guards, but under CBH I don’t think it’s a good idea having our pg be our go to scorer as well (we saw that this year with DC).
If ML is our pg we might become stagnant on offense, just passing the ball around until it comes back to him as opposed to running sets to get him open shots.
Also, until Lee develops a jump shot like AA, he will primarily be a slasher, meaning that he will be susceptible to offensive and loose ball fouls. He does us no good at any position if he is on the bench, so it might be best to let someone else create initial pressure on the defense.
Lastly, ML is clearly our lock-up defender, and I think playing hard D on the other team’s best player and bringing the ball up every possession is too much to ask. If we had more depth in the backcourt I would say this was a good idea, but I think it is too risky with only 3 players for 2 positions.
Lastly, there is a huge difference between playing point in high school and at the college level. ML looked a bit out of control at times this year, and while that will undoubtedly improve, I would want to see that improvement before giving him the keys to the offense.
Defensive concerns
Roll and Dragovic do not have the athleticism at the wing positions and will be exposed defensively. That means it is imperative that all 5 know their assignments and when to double-team aggressively and rebound the ball after missed shots. As the season goes on, I would hope some of the freshmen step up their game to where they’re major contributors heading in the post-season.
Need another striker
I would be very concerned about having that as a starting lineup. Don’t get me wrong, I love those 5 players, and want to see them all get a ton of minutes, but I don’t think an offense can survive with only 1 player who can drive the lane (ML). I know MR has been working on occasionally driving the lane, but this starting squad will yield an offense based on post scoring and outside shooting. IMHO, we need another ball handler in the starting 5.
Too Early to Tell
I think it is fun to do some guessing games here. I wound not rule out the possibility of starting Honeycutt and Anderson instead of Keefe and Roll. My thinking is that if Honeycutt and Anderson play better than Keefe and Roll, we would have a good team. On the other hand, if Keefe and Roll start, It means we are not going to have a strong team. Unless Keefe and Roll show substantial improvement over last year, we are at best #4 or 5 in the PAC-10.
RE: Too Early to Tell
“We are at best #4 or 5 in the Pac-10.”
I think you’re ignoring the common projection that the Pac-10 overall will be even weaker of a conference next year than it was this year. With the exception of maybe Washington (if they don’t lose many players), none of the teams are remotely title contenders. Even with Washington, I feel that anybody (from us to Cal to even SUC) can win the conference next year. The Pac-10 will regain its dominant status, but based on lineups and personnel, probably not this coming year.
All that said, I can’t wait to see what happens and I will be at every UCLA game I can next year.
I wonder if we would be better without Holiday from a 2 year pespective
Since next year is somewhat of a rebuilding year, I wonder if we would not be in a better position for a NC run in 2010-2011 if ML and JA get more experience.
Excellent point, dokein
If JH does decide to come back, he’s our point guard, right? – which then keeps ML and/or JA playing backup or the 2 for another year, and slowing their development at the point for when the young guys and incoming class should really start peaking (i.e. 2010-11).
Either way, though, it’s a nice problem to have to deal with.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life

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