[UPDATED: Trojans stuck with Floyd] Pittsburgh's Jamie Dixon Headed For USC?
In a recent fanpost, Nestor riffs on why he hopes that Tim Floyd stays at USC.
That said I like Floyd where he is ... underachieving one season after another. Because if Floyd leaves that will probably open the door for Jamie Dixon to Southern Cal. Jamie Dixon to Southern Cal would be a major move. It will also make (at least for this Bruin) it very difficult to dislike that basketball program, given his character and former ties to Howland. Oh and don't think Dixon will not take the job because he doesn't want to compete against his former mentor or that he is afraid of sanctions (you think NCAA will grow a spine against SC?).
I'm in full agreement with Nestor. Though I actually respect Floyd's coaching ability -- his teams play good defense and play hard -- I'd like him to stay at USC. Floyd keeps SC competitive (see: This year's Pac 10 tournament), but despite the occasional SC upset of UCLA, he keeps them a middle of the pack Pac 10 team. Floyd's weakness to this point has been recruiting and roster management. His teams appear to be patched together parts, an athletic collection of wing players, most of whom seem to fall from the same prep school tree. If nothing else, Renardo Sydney aside, Floyd and UCLA Coach Ben Howland don't seem to be recruiting the same set of players.
All that would change if Pitt's Jamie Dixon took the USC job and the Dixon-to-SC rumor is rampant on the message boards.
I hear you laughing. Who cares what's written on a message board, right?
In this case, we do -- and you should, too.
You must keep in mind that Dixon is a Southern California native; he starred at Sherman Oaks' Notre Dame High School. He only ended up in Pittsburgh because he followed his mentor, Howland, to Western Pennsylvania. The word is: Dixon would love to come home.
Dixon to USC creates a quandary for UCLA fans. The most obvious issue is that Dixon is a very good coach who will have a much better chance of Floyd of challenging UCLA's stature in Southern California and in the Pac 10. But in another way, that's the least of our quandary. If we want to win national titles, then we can't let a little thing like SC getting a coach we respect get in our way.
Aahhh, there's the rub. If SC hires Dixon, UCLA fans will be sort of forced to respect the Trojan hoops progam in a way we'd rather not. It's easier to dismiss them as a good, upset minded program that poses no real threat. With Howland protege Dixon there, UCLA fans might be forced to give them their due.
It would also put to rest the "If Howland leaves for the NBA we'll just get Dixon" school of thought.
Let me address one other thing:
A few UCLA fans have expressed to me their concern that we hired the wrong Pitt coach when we brought in Howland to replace the previous coach whose name I don't like to type. They see Howland as a great X and O coach who is a little rough around the edges and they wonder if Dixon isn't the more charming version of the two (with that charm eventually leading to better recruiting).
This is patently ludicrous.
When UCLA hired Ben Howland, he was already established as one of the best coaches in the nation. Howland to UCLA was a no-brainer. Dixon had never been a head coach. In fact, it was mostly assumed that Dixon would come to Westwood to coach at Howland's side. No one really thought that Pitt would promote him.
Well, Pitt did and he's done well. Not great (never been to a Final Four, never beaten a higher seed in the tournament), but very well. If Howland took a pro job, I'd want Dixon on the short list to replace him.
But no one should ever think for a second that we should have hired Jamie Dixon over Ben Howland when we still had that choice to make. That's just crazy talk.
UPDATE (A): ESPN is now reporting the following:
Coach Tim Floyd will remain at USC, multiple news outlets are reporting.
The school is expected to hold a news conference Thursday afternoon.
UPDATE II (N): Well this works out very well for UCLA:

Unhinged Pink at Pauley (06) (Photo Credit: Jack Rosenfeld)
We get to experience comedy for few more seasons at least.
Meanwhile, Arizona gets played by Tim freaking Floyd. rofl.
GO BRUINS.
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There, you got a 2nd one.
Enjoy. ;-)
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Apr 2, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem admitting that this makes me uncomfortable
Such is my respect for Coach Dixon. It’s the same situation with Tom Izzo. These are quality guys and I want their teams to do well when they don’t play ours. Dixon at SUC puts me in an ethical dilemma here that I have no desire to face and haven’t had to face in the past due to SUC’s habit of hiring slimeballs.
by Tydides on Apr 2, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind that a lot of Pitt fans didn't like the Dixon hiring
They wanted a proven commodity. Looking back on it, Pitt clearly made the correct decision and I guess you could make an argument (one that I wouldn’t agree with) that DIxon would be a better fit for UCLA now than Howland is. Keep this in mind though. Howland built the program from the ashes. He built Pitt from nothing and revived North Arizona. He has a record of being a great builder. Dixon has never built a program so odds are he wouldn’t have built UCLA as well or quickly as Howland did. Just a though for those out there who think Dixon would have been a better hire.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 2, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never thought that for a second
We had a chance to win 2 national championships with Howland. The thing that stopped us was the UF buzz saw in 2006 and 2007. We’ll have a chance to win more championships with Howland at the helm. Think, Dixon had Dejaun Blair this year with an experienced team and only made the Elite 8 (and that was a struggle for them at times).
I’m not saying Dixon is a bad coach (OBVIOUSLY, this is not the case), I just think Howland is a better fit for our program.
What worries me is having a good coach at South Central CC could imped our recruiting of HS talent. The last 4 years we’ve had our pick of the best talent in So Cal, Dixon would steal some of our thunder.
Besides, I don’t want a rivary with South Central CC, I want to snuff their living lights out everytime they step on a court with us. I would be more happy with a one-sided romp every game than with an actual competition with those jerks.
Ok, rant over. Back to work.
Victory or until next year!
by ncrpz2 on Apr 2, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
Keep in mind how Pitt stepped up when Maggie Dixon passed away. Dixon strikes me as someone that won’t forget that. I know Loyalty is a thing of the past but can’t help to think that it still is applicable with Jamie.
by BlueReign on Apr 2, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For people who doubt or question Howland
What Ben Howland has done with our program is unbelievable. He took us from a point far lower than UCLA ever should have been allowed to sink to and brought us three Final Four appearances in a row. He did this with very young squads. He did this with squads that were pieced together with some players out of position. He’s been so successful 4-year guys have become 3- or even 2-year guys. Howland is, without a doubt, the coach I want for UCLA.
by Westwood is the best wood on Apr 2, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And all the whiners
have yet to recommend anyone over Ben Howland. Whom would they rather have today? I’m talking about a reasonable choice that makes sense. Who would be a better fit and a better coach at UCLA than Ben Howland right now? Answer: NO ONE.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Apr 2, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the recruiting comparisons are nonsense
I believe I read somewhere that Dixon just got his first Mcdonalds All American for this upcoming season (may be wrong though…looking for that article right now). Whereas, of course, CBH has clearly gotten his share of them already.
by bruinhopeful on Apr 2, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Pitt fan
Let me assure you that Dixon will not leave Pitt for USC. He’s been living in PIttsburgh for 10 years, he gets paid very well, his kids were all born in Pittsburgh, his wife works for the University, he has one of the best facilities in the nation (the Pete),…and he’s in the best conference in the country.
He would leave all that for what? USC? A football school that will constantly be in the shadows of UCLA? Dixon and Howland are friends but I’m sure he wants to forge his own career without having to deal with Howland on a yearly basis. The Pitt administration has treated Dixon extremely generously, even flying his entire family on private jets for his sisters memorial service. Dixon is a loyal guy, I think he’ll stick with Pitt.
Even if Howland goes pro,…I don’t think UCLA can lure Dixon. Thats how strong his ties are here.
by ismail on Apr 2, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right about Dixon
I’d rather not see him across town. I actually think Howland being in this city is deterrant to Dixon coming out here. They already dislike coaching against each other and being in conference guarantees they will face off at least twice a year.
by Tydides on Apr 2, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Form your lips to God's ears
I hope justsc never gets a good coach (I disagree with those who think Timmeh is good.) The only time I want to see Dixon on the sidelines is as the coach of the Pitt team who the Bruins play in the finals.
by Fox 71 on Apr 2, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a commentary on Pitt or Pittsburgh ...
Dixon is from Los Angeles.
That’s the lure.
It’s not a knock on the school, the team or the city.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Apr 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But most of his family ties are East Coast
As a kid, he spent his summers in NY with his grandparents. His parents are in NY. His kids are born and raised in Pittsburgh. He was born in LA but his East coast ties are just as strong and possibly stronger. It should also be noted that PItt was supportive when sister passed away. I heard they even charted a flight for him and his family to attend the funeral.
by Gen2Bruin1987 on Apr 2, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dixon
Jamie is an LA kid. His wife is from Hawaii.
All I can say if Floyd leaves and Trojans make him a reasonable offer he would most likely be coming back to LA. The only thing that might hold Dixon back is one briefs him on the extent of “questionable circumstances” around current USC basketball program and about the ongoing NCAA investigations.
I appreciate ismail’s thoughts above but folks from Coug Center can probably tell us about “loyalty,” and the “perfect fit” when the program doesn’t involve a destination school such as UCLA, UNC, KU, or UK
by Nestor on Apr 2, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree ...
and I’d be writing the same things as Ismail if I were in his place.
Pitt has a very good program, great fans, a great venue … all those things. They have all the things a coach would want, just about.
But what they don’t have, L.A. does.
1 – L.A. is home for Dixon.
2 – L.A. and Southern California has much more home grown high school basketball talent. Pitt’s success is based on their ability to recruit New York and other Eastern cities and communities. At USC, Dixon could recruit players who live just a few miles from the Galen Center.
I couldn’t see Dixon at Arizona or Arizona State or any other Pac 10 school. But one of the two L.A. programs? … that I could see.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Apr 2, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are overplaying his connections to LA
Yes, he was born in the west coast and went to high school there. But he’s lived all over the world, went of college in Texas, coached in Pittsburgh for 10 years,…has a bunch of family in NY. Not go get morbid, but even his sister is buried in the east coast. Being from the west coast doesn’t mean he wants to return there.
Ben Howland was yearning to go back to LA. UCLA was his dream job,…don’t assume that Dixon has the same ambitions as Howland. I think he wants to build his reputation at Pitt. What I’m saying is that he has built a life and a home in Pittsburgh, there is nothing USC can offer him that he doesn’t have at Pitt.
Recruiting? Dixon is doing fine. He was half a second away from the final 4. How far did USC go?
by ismail on Apr 2, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
We couldn’t care less about JustSC but I can tell you A knows what he is talking about when it comes to Howland and Dixon.
You are starting to sound like Pitt fans who were writing the exact same posts back in 2002. I remember being lectured by Pitt fans about Howland’s ties to Pittsburgh and about his daughter being a cheerleader at Pitt.
When it comes to location the opportunity to live in West LA, beach cities in Southern California will always trump over living in Pittsburgh. Especially for someone who grew up in Southern California and the ties that Dixon has to So. Cal.
Anyway, this is over. We can all breathe a sigh of relief. Hope Dixon does well at Pitt. We will be happy to have him when UCLA is looking for a new coach following Howland’s retirement in next 10 years.
by Nestor on Apr 2, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A knows what he's talking about but I don't?
I was a Pitt student when we first hired Howland in the 90s. I knew of him and Dixon way before any of you guys. As for what Pitt fans were saying in 2002,…Howland was coaching Pitt for 4 years, his father was ill, and he badly wanted to move west. Dixon has planted roots in Pittsburgh in a way Howland never did. Believe me, I knew of these guys before any of you.
by ismail on Apr 2, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great!
But come on now…you did not know about CBH before any of us. That is just stupid. Just like I won’t know some up & coming mid-major coach/asst. coach on a staff on the East Coast, you had no clue about CBH until he came on Pitt’s radar.
by BlueReign on Apr 2, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember what I knew way back then.
Tough being a Geezer.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Apr 2, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way ...
The Pitt Blather blog notes the following:
Here’s roughly what Dixon would have to balance, assuming Tim Floyd leaves USC for Arizona and USC comes after Coach Jamie Dixon.
Money: They would have to offer at least $2.5 million and a minimum of 5 years.
Family: If they did that, the other pros would be the proximity of his sister and parents in the area. Along with his wife being a USC grad (FWIW).
Local recruiting: Let’s face it, there is more talent to mine in LA and California than there is in Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania.
I’m not sure I realized that Dixon’s wife is a Trojan before today.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Apr 2, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also,…he was already offered the Cal job, and the Arizona job,…..he turned down both. Why in the hell would he accept the USC job over the Zona?
by ismail on Apr 2, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a very good point
Why the hell would Dixon leave a great situation (Pitt: perennial Sweet Sixteen/Elite Eight team with a top-20 recruiting class coming in) for a program that’s iffy at best (USC: perennial first/second round team about to lose their two best players and their best incoming recruit)? I think the “Southern California native” thing only goes so far. Like ismail said, he’s been living in Pittsburgh for 10 years, gets paid very well, and has set up a family there. And I don’t know this for sure, but can USC afford to pay Dixon (or any big-name coach for that matter) top dollar, since they already have so much money committed to their football program? Add it all up and I doubt Dixon comes if Floyd goes.
by theslammer on Apr 2, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question:
If Timmeh leaves, and if his recruits follow him, do they have to give back all the money they’ve already received from justsc? Or is that just one of the risks justsc takes when they make those kinds of payments?
by Fox 71 on Apr 2, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Late April fools? Don’t scare me. I don’t want to see Dixon as sc.
by ranelar on Apr 2, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As Pitt fans,…we’ve gone through this before. Last year Cal went after Dixon hard and he showed absolutely no interest. Andy Katz recently reported that Dixon is extremely pleased with his situation in Pittsburgh. Dixon is also a very low key guy by nature, for example he has a reputation of being a bad interview in the sense that it doesn’t come naturally to him and he would prefer to do the coaching without the media spotlight. I don’t see how USC would be more comfortable for him that Pittsburgh in any sense.
If anything, he could’ve had the Arizona job and he declined.
by ismail on Apr 2, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fleas
My mother used to tell me “When you lie down with dogs, you get flees.”
If Dixon is the person we believe him to be, why in the world would he want to go to a tainted program with a culture of cheating?
So long as Mike Garrett is AD, and sc places money and influence above integrity and rectitude, it will not be the place for any coach who has Coach type values.
Although sc has been sufficiently powerful to ward off sanctions, there is little doubt that violations have occurred.
I don’t see Dixon as the type of coach who can turn a blind eye and deaf ear to the dirt and corruption surrounding that program. I don’t think he’s the kind of guy who wants to wear a flea collar every day he goes to work.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Apr 2, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its pretty simple - SC v. Pitt
Cons: Lateral move or step down, Always second fiddle in LA, Compete with Howland for talent, Always second to football program, More media focus/expectations, NCAA cloud
Pros: Hometown, Better weather, Pay?
Unless he is dying to get back to LA or gets a huge offer, it seems to me he waits for an offer from an established program.
by CTBruin on Apr 2, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All on a sudden
This has turned into comedy. Freaking awesome.
Great post again A. Well played sir.
by Nestor on Apr 2, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The so called "Standard"
Zona supporters can say that the big names passed on them because they were looking at a rebuilding job like IU is going through. Not buying it. CBH was looking at a similar situation when he took over and yet, he got us into the Tourney in his 2nd season. THIS is why those that talk about CBH has no freakin’ clue.
Would you like some more Humble Pie zona? LOL!
by BlueReign on Apr 2, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent update to the title of this post.
Most excellent.
by freesia39 on Apr 2, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lavin + Arizona = Instant Classic
Cmon wildcats, you can do it.
Don’t let us down
by bruinhopeful on Apr 2, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant post
Floyd is a good enough coach to keep USC interesting, but not good enough for them to seriously be on our level.
And bruinhopeful, Lavin in Arizona would be the funniest thing ever.
by gilbert on Apr 2, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do we know that Timmeh! wasn't played by UA
and bothered to go to an interview only not to get made an offer…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Apr 2, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lavin should be able to get a good recommendation
from none other than Lute Olson. Wasn’t he the one playing up how great of a coach he is?
by Tydides on Apr 2, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is going on with Arizona?
They had all year to work on this search, kept it supersecret the whole time, and have now been rejected by their top 4 candidates?
Livengood can’t be good for much longer.
by bluebland on Apr 2, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And, I think they offended two coaches who might have been OK
Dunlap and Pennell (sp?)
sjh
by Class of 66 on Apr 2, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howland and Floyd
I’ve been critical of how this past season went, and I’ve heaped some of that criticism on our head coach. But any notion that Ben Howland isn’t THE coach we should have hired, or the coach we want going forward, is ridiculous. It took UCLA over 25 years to find a very, very good coach who also willingly embraced our legacy of success and championships. For years, no one good wanted this job because they didn’t want to deal with the “Wooden” pressure. Additionally, while I think Howland isn’t perfect, I expect he’ll continue to improve as a coach over time. He had never advanced very far in the NCAA tourney prior to coming to UCLA — it’s not like he had a track record of doing that. Yet he did it with a UCLA team that, on paper at least, no one expected he could. At the time, he was playing two previously-under-achieving Lavin recruits and some freshman from Cameroon (LRMA) no one had really ever heard of.
Floyd, to me, is a better version of Lavin: He wins some games he shouldn’t, and he loses some games he shouldn’t. Occasionally he surprises, like winning the PAC 10 tourney this year (see: Lavin’s record of getting us into the Sweet 16, where his teams would be summarily and embarrassingly sent packing.) I say Floyd is better because he’s a better coach, overall, and a better recruiter. I hope he stays at SC at least long enough to see his head literally explode in the middle of a game.
by Bruin Die Hard on Apr 2, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think he understands x-o's much better than lavin. his draw back is his whiny negative attitude
i guess i kind of agree that results wise he is lavinesque- win some lose some, save your team with last second winning streak to make tourney and win a game.
by realfabfive on Apr 2, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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