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The Humanitarian was TESTING Mark Sanchez

The LA Times:

"He made a point to really go to bat for Sanchez," a scout said. "You could tell he meant it."

Carroll told the group that his public frosting of Sanchez -- including the comment the player made a "bad choice" -- was meant to test his resolve, to see if he truly had his heart set on turning pro right away or if he would waffle. Sanchez didn't waver.

"He told us, 'I challenged him. I wanted him to make the right decision,' " the scout said. "He said, 'I love the kid. I support him. I think he'll make a good pro.' "

I cannot claim originality on this.  I didn't know about this until ESPN's Pardon the Interruption caught this.  He said his little cold shoulder at Sanchez's press conference was "a test".  I didn't buy that for a minute and neither did Wilbon.  Those of you on ESPN insider go check out today's PTI show and scroll to the segment on Pete Carroll.

Here's what happened:  Pete woke up, used some common sense and realized, "Oh damn, I need kids to come to South LA and play QB ... if they roll this tape ... and if any other coach in the country rolls tape of Sanchez's press conference to a QB prospect I'm done!  They'll see I'm a petty, scared man who won't help them reach their dream of getting to the NFL, all I care about is USC!  DAMAGE CONTROL!!"  Pete, you're a mile wide and an inch deep.

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Hilarious!!

Shaking Head Damage Control is right!

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 2, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Biggest Load of Crap I have Ever Heard

Literally. I don’t know what poodle they’re paying to spin over at heritage hall, but he must have graduated from $c

by Sideout11 on Apr 2, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

"a good pro"

Hardly a ringing endorsement.

by Give me a B... on Apr 2, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

the humanitarian character tester

I suppose sending his dog Kenny to accuse CRN of using his name during recruiting was also a test of our coach’s strength in character, determination and commitment to his job…

by bruin_98 on Apr 3, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions  

unbelievable

what a pile of manure

O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 3, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions  

The guys at PTI

were laughing at this claim.

by haster123 on Apr 3, 2009 1:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Rolling around and howling was more like it.

I love those guys, nothing much gets by them. I wish Tony Kornheiser didn’t have SUCH an east coast bias and go to bed at 9pm EST every night.

Mike Wilbon and Tony both saw the “test” for what it was, complete crap.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 3, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man. Unfortunately when you are at a PRESS CONFERENCE, the cameras are rolling, and they caught all of Petey’s Douchebaggery on film. The evidence is pretty indisputable. So much for keeping your powder dry.

by Tydides on Apr 3, 2009 1:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Douchebaggery

You learn so much on this forum. LOL

by Bruinut on Apr 3, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too late for Pete

HIs actions at the press conference showed the kind of guy he is. Everything else now, as others have noted, is damage control.

Period.

by Barnes2JJ on Apr 3, 2009 5:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure "Humanitarian" is the right term to use.

I looked up the definition of “humanitarian” on the net and found this:

"hu·man·i·tar·i·an (hy-mn-târ-n)

NOUN:

One who is devoted to the promotion of human welfare and the advancement of social reforms; a philanthropist.

ADJECTIVE:

Of, relating to, or characteristic of a humanitarian or humanitarianism. See Synonyms at humane. "

That didn’t sound entirely accurate, so I did some more looking, and got the following from that impeccable source, Wikipedia:

“Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "…a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood.” Deceit and manipulation are considered essential features of the disorder. … People having antisocial personality disorder are sometimes referred to as “sociopaths” and “psychopaths”, although some researchers believe that these terms are not synonymous with ASPD." (Emphasis added, footnotes omitted.)

To fit that definition, according to Wikipedia, you need to have three of the following characteristics (and unfortunately the Wikipeida article was so poorly written that I couldn’t tell whether this is from DSM-IV or something else):

"Three or more of the following are required:

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another."

Think about the Sanchez press conference. In my non-expert opinion, it sure looks like the second and seventh criteria were exhibited at that presser. Then there is the first criterion: “1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest.” I don’t know if presiding over that band of merry men would fit this criterion. I guess it would depend on your take on what a “societal norm” is.

Anyway, I don’t think Cheatie Petie fits the definition of “humanitarian.” Does he fit the definition of a sociopath? I have my own opinion about that one.

by Fox 71 on Apr 3, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

No need to dig that deep

He’s just a Selfish Bastard. I think we can all settle on that.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 3, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

be careful with that

some of us (me) are Ayn Rand followers actually enjoy and want to be called selfish.

I would say that Pete is self-absorbed, a megalomaniac, short-sighted and wishes others to live for his sake. Howard Roark and Dagny Taggart were neither self-absorbed. They would never stand in the way of Mark Sanchez achieving his dream of being an NFL QB. In fact I don’t know that Dagny would have cared what Mark did so long as he didn’t try to nationalize the railroads.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The key words there

are “moral value”, of which Petey has none. Hence, he does not fit Ayn Rand’s definition of selfishness, which entails not sacrificing others to oneself. So no worries, we’re in the clear. Can’t wait for the movie.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 3, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely Hilarious.

What a total dick.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Apr 3, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

You almost have it right

Except for the part all Pete cares about is SC. Not so. All Pete cares about is Pete. Period.

by Free the 16 on Apr 3, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

another link

With Leather gets into the act (a damn fine sports website) and calls out Pete.

How inspiring! And totally believable! See, I would have thought that Carroll finally realized what a douchebag he’d been all along and then suddenly stepped up to support a player that would be representing his program in the NFL.

This is sweet. Finally the bloom is coming off the rose.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 3, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Watched PTI

on ESPN and I am STILL laughing! What a lying SOS. Nice try, petey.

by uclafan11 on Apr 4, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Ol' Cheatey must watch a lot of Simpsons

Homer: God is teasing me. Just like he teased Moses in the desert.
Marge: Tested, Homer. God tested Moses.

Clearly Pom Pom was just testing Dirty.

by UCLA4Life on Apr 7, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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