Trouble Brewing at SC
by Barnes2JJ on Apr 9, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
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Apparently, the NCAA (yeah, I know) is possibly taking a harder look at the numerous alleged violations over at South Central.
Here's the link and excerpt from my favorite paper, the Incredibly Shrinking LA Times:
NCAA investigations into former USC stars in football and basketball have been combined into one probe of the Trojans' athletic program, sources connected to one of the cases said Wednesday.
Investigators have been examining allegations involving Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush and NBA lottery pick O.J. Mayo. Bush is accused of accepting thousands in cash and his family for failing to pay rent on a home owned by a fledgling marketer while he was playing for USC in 2004 and 2005. Mayo is accused of accepting cash and other benefits from a middleman representing a sports agency before and during the one season he played for the Trojans in 2007-08.
What's the key thing the NCAA looks for in these situations, sportsfans? That's right: Lack of instituional control. That is apparently why the NCAA's probes (plural) have now been combined into one investigation.
You can read the rest of the short article for yourself. In the interest of fairness, I thought it was proper to also include (from the article) the following strong denial from SC, Floyd and Pete Carroll, who is never at a loss for words:
USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett referred questions to the university's legal counsel, who did not return messages. Trojans football Coach Pete Carroll could not be reached for comment.
USC basketball Coach Tim Floyd said he hasn't had any dialogue with the NCAA since May and has "never, ever heard" that the investigations were being combined.
Yeah, I know. SC's "official" policy is not to comment on NCAA investigations. I just think it is amusing that the school has to actually have such a policy.
I know none of you are going to hold your breath waiting for someone actually to crack down on SC. But hey, I'm just reporting the news.
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should come to BN for a list of all the shady things that suc is doing. That should help them with their case for “Lack of Institutional Control”, if they “really” want to do something that is.
by BlueReign on Apr 9, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All Rolled Into One So ...
it can be swept under the rug easier.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Apr 9, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I thought
when I heard. Why waste time pretending to do 2 things when you can waste time pretending to do one
by Sideout11 on Apr 9, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NCAA
No Cojones, At All
USC
Unscrupulous, Systemic Cheaters
by Bruinut on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys are such cynics
Why shouldn’t the ncaa do a thorough job of investigating and then issue a strong sanction if justsc is found guilty? The ncaa has a history of coming down hard on big time schools who …. Oh…. Wait.
OK, it’s not like the ncaa has ever had a reason to question justsc about anything. They have always had a reputation of running a clean program and …. Oh…. Wait.
The ncaa itself has such a strong reputation for integrity and penetrating investigations, and they always get to the heart of any violations of any rules, and then …. Oh.,,, OK
Never mind/
by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And a question, Barnes
Aren’t you in SD? Can you check any websites or anything and get the status on bu$h’s lawsuit? Any interesting news on that front?
by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am in SD
The only thing I heard, perhaps within the last couple of months, was that Bush replaced his attorneys and it sounded like they were pushing for a quick settlement. Prior to that, there were lots of motions to compel filed by the plaintiff(s) against Bush, but I never heard the results of those motions, if any. But honestly, I have not heard anything outside of what anyone could have read or heard in the MSM.
Obviously, there was a difference of opinion between Bush and his former attorneys which led to their exit. Perhaps they quit. I have to believe it had to do with settling the case. It does him no good to continue with it, be deposed, etc. and have it hanging over him.
I’ll scrounge around the local media websites—which are awful—and see if I can dig anything up.
by Barnes2JJ on Apr 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right, legal ace Kim Kardashian is on it!
Ok, say what you want about her being a vapid media whore and a dummy who got caught on a sex tape and all but she looked at Reggie’s legal fees and the amount the plaintiff was asking to settle and said, “… the amount he’s asking to settle for is less than your attorney’s fees to date.”
by Seanny Rotten on Apr 10, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
That’s probably dead-on correct and even Kim could do that math.
Fox, by the way, I did some checking on some websites to see if I could find any new news on the Bush suit. I am usually pretty decent on the internet, but I literally found nothing new. I also looked at the local San Diego Court index site and can tell you that the case against Bush and 2 other people was filed by Lloyd Lake on 10/30/2007 for breach of contract. I can also tell, by the case number, that it was filed in downtown San Diego (the main court—there are three other branch courts in town).
All of that is old news and public info. Sorry—I just have not heard, and cannot find, anything new about this matter. I have to believe the attorneys are still engaged in settlement discussions and, most significantly, Bush’s deposition will likely never take place.
by Barnes2JJ on Apr 10, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not surprised about no depo
Ladies and gents, that’s why cheatie petie won’t sue anyone for defamation, no matter what is said about him. He will NOT put himself in a position where he has to answer questions directly, and especially not where the answers have to be under oath. Look what happened when the most famous trOJan of all couldn’t use the self-incrimination privilege to avoid testimony – He got hit for $33K and is now living in a nice off-the-strip motel somewhere in Nevada. That’s often what happens when people have to testify.
by Fox 71 on Apr 10, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will someone please
go give Mitch Mustain a free bag of groceries? That will definitely make the NCAA’s ears perk up.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Apr 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate those WWL selected comments
Because they’re usually along the lines of “You better not underestimate the Cavs! Here they come!” garbage, but this one was on point:
BiiiiiiigBaaaaaabay says: April 9, 2009, 8:8 AM ET When I was a little kid, I liked loading the mess in my room into one big pile because it made it easier to sweep under the bed.
by bruinhopeful on Apr 9, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Funny
I JUST read that comment and was going to post it! Love it!
by uclafan11 on Apr 9, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love how
Barnes2JJ felt compelled to end his post with:
I know none of you are going to hold your breath waiting for someone actually to crack down on SC. But hey, I’m just reporting the news.
Because my first reaction upon reading the news was, “I’ll believe it when I see it.”
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Apr 9, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If they wanted it to go away...
Why do this now? If the NCAA wanted to forget about it and sweep it under the rug, don’t you think they would have, you know, keep doing what they have been?
The truth of the matter is that no school with any clout will be able to be punished by the NCAA as long as these sticky little situations are still out there. USC is getting something someday soon. One just ponders how severe the punishment will be.
by Bruins102NCAA on Apr 10, 2009 2:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but ....
I would agree, 102, but the fact of the matter is that justsc has been doing this since I was in high school. There was (maybe there still is) an organization called the trOJan bench. I heard from lots of sources that these guys existed for one reason – to get money to justsc athletes. I was a naive high school kid who wasn’t looking for evidence of corruption and I had that basically shoved down my throat. The ncaa was supposed to be looking for that sort of thing, but they never even heard of justsc.
Look up Clarence Reece. He was a player at the same time Pat Haden and JK McKay were there. He published an expose which named names. Did anythng come of that ? Nope.
Simple things like the entire football team getting paid to work for a construction company during the summer but not actually working there. (OK, maybe not the entire football team but at least a lot of it.) This was during the 90’s. I know that one. Where is the ncaa on this issue? Oh, they’re busy dinging the badminton team from East West South Northern for not genuflecting when they drove by the ncaa headquarters.
Maybe the ncaa will do something. I personally doubt it based on its track record. That’s one of the reasons why I never capitalize that particular acronym. UCLA is capitalized. justsc and the ncaa aren’t.
by Fox 71 on Apr 10, 2009 4:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember the penalty
when they dinged Marv Goux for selling players tix?
by bru79 on Apr 10, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Put pressure on ncaa and pac-10 officials
Does anyone here know what snail mail or email addresses we should use to send our serious sentiments about SUC’s cheating? I think unless we put pressure on them, they will simply ignore it as they continue to do.
Is there a program that exemplifies "lack of control" more than SUC? Arrests, steroids, shady figures with consistent contacts with athletes, mysterious high profile players signing on to mediocre program, violations, etc…
We need to encourage other pac-10 teams (fans) to write in as well. We want to see action…it affects all the pac-10 teams when they continually out recruits us and it seriously affects the pac-10 and in how we are always seen as a weak conference.
Send along the addresses and send it along to your friends and other boards.
by bruin_98 on Apr 11, 2009 4:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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