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List Building Excercise: 10 Points of Trojan Spin/Excuses

Here are 10 excuses I can think of right off the top of my head:

  1. Louis Johnson is a felon. You can't trust him!
  2. Johnson didn't see the actual handoff taking place between Timmeh and Guillory. So of course the story is not true.
  3. Do you really believe we would be that shady that our coaches would actually pay players?
  4. None of this is true because NCAA hasn't done anything about it and if NCAA hasn't done anything about it, there is nothing to see here.
  5. How are we supposed to know about all the basketball agents/players? We don't know anything about the game!
  6. Yahoo! Sports simply has an anti-Trojan agenda.
  7. Strike number 6. Everyone has an anti-Trojan agenda. Everyone envies U$C!
  8. The bad apple defense: this was just done by couple of corrupt agents and one or two families they were able to influence.
  9. Everyone else does it.
  10. Sam Gilbert!!!

Other excuses? I am sure there are more. Pile on in this thread.

GO BRUINS.

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I already tossed in a few.

There is the ever popular “I want to tell the American People, I did not have sex with that runner.” That has a nice presidential sound.

In that same vein, Timmeh could say “I am not a crook.”

I think they will eventually go with “We can categorically state that we have never heard of Louis Johnson or Rodney Guillory, and neither have ever set foot on the campus. Further, we have never heard of OJ Mayo, and you can be darn certain he never set foot in any classroom at justsc. Last but not least, we have never heard of Timmeh Floyd, do not know his family, wouldn’t recognize him if he was handing us a Sickle Cell Anemia Foundation credit card, and indeed our basketball coach is and always shall be either Bob Boyd or Forrest Twogood.”

But seriously folks, watch for the classic trio: Deny, Obfuscate, Accuse. The acronym for that classic defense is the way it usually ends up.

by Fox 71 on May 13, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

….you can be darn certain he never set foot in any classroom at justsc.

That statement might not be a complete lie, either.

by jaffa on May 13, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nestor

What are you doing?!? Take this down right away. These actually have a chance of working on the NCAA and it would take the school of spin at least another month to come up with just one of these. Of course by then there would be another scandal to investigate.

BTW, does anybody else think that $C’s game plan is to come out with a new violation every time that one of the other ones starts getting close to a punishment in order to distract the NCAA. It’s like a dog chasing his tail, just when it realizes that the tail might be his, he loses focus and starts all over again. Because if this were actually what was going on (doubt it), I would congratulate them in oerson for playing the NCAA like fools (I’m serious about that last part).

by Sideout11 on May 13, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

Flooding the zone!

by Nestor on May 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bart Simpson Defense

“I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, and you can’t prove anything!”

by Give me a B... on May 13, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

My Favorites

1. If this had any weight he would have been fired already from ’$C (yeah right)

2. Tim Floyd is a good guy and a smart coach who would never do something this obscenely wrong (HAH!)

by turs12 on May 13, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

lol @ Sam Gilbert

Nestor, that is one of the funniest things I’ve read on BN. What is even funnier (sadder?) is that we are sure to hear that b.s. from the trojies.

by Dante on May 13, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

The best lies contain a little bit of the truth.

“Yes, Tim Floyd gave Rodney Guillory that money. FOR HIS CHARITY! How were we to know what he would really do with it? It was him! It was always him! We did nothing wrong! What did we do wrong? So, am I off the hook? Can I get back on the recruiting trail?”

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on May 13, 2009 11:58 PM PDT reply actions  

A few more

Some I already proposed:

-The Chewbacca Defense

-(point behind the NCAA investigator and shout, “Look, it’s Sam Gilbert!”). Turn and run when he/she looks the other way.

-We have looked absolutely everywhere [between the 40 yard lines in the Coliseum] and found no wrongdoing. Hey, we can’t be responsible for everyone our players and coaches come into contact with! Wait, what? We can? Hey look-it’s Sam Gilbert!

Some others SC is likely to throw out:

-Forget about this. We should really be focusing on nefarious bags of groceries.

-Throw Timmeh under the bus in an effort to spare Cheatie and the real cash cow.

-How much of a “donation” to the NCAA would it take for all of this to just go away.

-Did you know that Jerry Tarkanian is still alive? It’s true. Here is his address.

-You can’t do anything to us. We OWN the NCAA!

by Karl II on May 14, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Tracking the predictions

Cal Southern fan reactions are hilarious. Look at the comments to the OC Trojister blog article on the interview with the Yahoo reporter. As TJ Simers says, these people live among you.

Here are a few of the unedited gems (with spelling errors and all!):

The “Yahoo is written by non-credible yahoos defense:”

When has Yahoo Sports reporteers ever been rigth on a story? Give me one thing they were ever correct about prior to anything coming from CNNsi or ESPN or even FOX sports? NOT ONE Thing.
When you talk about the Rodney Guillory situation, didn’t USC ask the NCAA to do their own investigation prior to OJ signing or playing at USC and the NCAA Cleared OJ to play? YES they did.

The “they were dirty before they got here defense:”

Sorry, but this is complete BS. The reporter’s assertion that USC facitated and somehow introduced these relationships is incredibly false. These people were close with the atheletes independently of being visiting them on campus or calling them on their cell phones one they were at USC. Rodney Guillory sank his claws into OJ Mayo long before he was even recruited by USC. The Bush family got involved with Reggies’ handlers through existing personal relationships the father had. Michael, please call the Yahoo reporter on this assertion, which it is so incredibly false, it defies belief and obviously calls into question the credibilty of the reporter. You can argue that USC should have been much more concerned about these apparrent relationships and done a more thorough investigation, but to sugggest that the "access" enabled these relationships is ludicrous.

This one is vital because it assumes that a player’s misconduct can not be imputed to a university, regardless of the university’s action or inaction.

The “everyone is lying but us defense:”

And, Louis Johnson is a convicted felon for cocaine, a failed sportswriter, a wannabe Guillory hoops runner, and he is writing a book. Louis Johnson has no credibility whatsoever. And, he did not witness the purported event. It is hearsay from a felon with a motive. Does anyone really believe that if OJ Mayo was for sale, that $1k would be the asking price? You cannot be serious. The Yahoo report is ludicrous.

The “you’ll never prove it so it didn’t happen defense:”

I find the line of reporting to be extremely distasteful. Floyd giving $1,000 is something that is never going to be proven or disproven, so the theory that Johnson is telling the truth out of perjury prosecution is weak. It comes down to he said-he said.

In the mean time, Tim Floyd’s reputation and USC’s reputation take a beating simply because this pseudo news is so widely reported.

I should think that to demonstrate lack of instutional control, NCAA would want multiple, provable offenses, within the same time period and within one sport. They are not there yet, and I doubt they will be! Fight on!

I especially like the comment about Floyd’s and SC’s reputation taking a beating. Nice touch. Exactly what is the reputation of a coach who: hires players’ fathers, hires aau coaches, gives scholarships to unqualified posers as part of package deals, and regularly takes players from diploma mills?

by Karl II on May 14, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

forgot to mention

The $1K asking price is way too low defense in number 3 above.

by Karl II on May 14, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

that’s worth it’s own fanpost. Nicely done Karl II (any relation to Koach Karl?)

by Nestor on May 14, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

f/k/a Koach Karl I. Couldn’t change my name so I started a new one.

by Karl II on May 14, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man ..

Man … that was a long time ago .. that is pre-BN!

by Nestor on May 14, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of wild

Had no idea the little hobby (which it still is, just a hobby … er blue and gold addiction) would turn into this.

by Nestor on May 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

here's one

Guillory was hired as an “assistant conditioning coach,” and he legally adopted OJ Mayo.

by UCLAbruin920 on May 14, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

That's close to the trick Timmeh used to recruit Hackett

Well one can speculate given how Hackett’s Dad magically works as a “coach” in Floyd’s staff. Wait, that’s another scandal.

by Nestor on May 14, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

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