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The fishwrap's motto: See no evil, hear no evil, publish no evil

As I recall, a fairly big story broke on Tuesday, May 12, ten days ago.  Something about just$c*'s basketball coach paying OJ2's runner.  The fishwrap published a story which was subtitled "The Emperor's New Clothes," but nothing else.

I googled "tim floyd usc payment" again, and there are still 100 pages of hits.  There is still no statement from Garrett or Floyd.  There is still nothing but silence in the fishwrap.

Bruins, I now officially declare the story to be dead.  just$c* has won the battle for the minds and hearts of America by ignoring the SCandal.  You have to hand it to them.  (Actually, you don't - they'll take it whether you hand it to them or not, but I digress.)  They have weathered the storm simply by ignoring it.  Nothing is going to happen.  In fact, I think they're giving themselves another national championship in football.

 

 

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We should get in on this

and by “this” I mean claiming we won National Championships. Maybe we can weather the storm of criticism for a few days and then everyone will start buying it! Oh…wait…we actually win a lot of those, so we don’t need to. I just hope the NCAA and the government (interesting to hear they are involved) keep up their investigations and then, maybe, in a few months we may have something come from another paper that should be riding the coattails of the paper with the most access to this story.

by sponkey21 on May 22, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fox

If you have the time, and obviously the inclination, email Simers, Plaschke, Dwyre and the other sports guys at the LAT and simply ask why they haven’t done any further investigation. See if anyone bites. I only emailed Simers and got no response.

The obvious response from any of them would be that the school and Floyd “cannot” respond (because of policy). Well, fine. But that shouldn’t stop a good journalist from digging further into the story.

Anyway, it’s just a thought. I’d welcome a barrage of emails to the LAT from others, too.

by Barnes2JJ on May 22, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Only a semi-retired, and massively obsessed guy with lots of time on his hands would do something like that.

Hey, I’m semi-retired. I have lots of time. If only I were obsessed about this.

by Fox 71 on May 22, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least you had the courtesy

of not saying anything about your golfing habits.

by Barnes2JJ on May 22, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Letters to the Times

Well, I did something that I didn’t think I would ever do. I wrote to the fishwrap. I sent basically the same e-mail to Simers and Plashke. Then I noticed a Streeter article, and used his language in my e-mail to him. Here’s what I said:

“Your May 10 article about scrambled priorities began thusly: “Am I out of touch? Am I too angry, too outraged about Manny Ramirez and his dope-induced exile to baseball purgatory?” I happen to agree with you on this – the priorities of baseball fans are indeed scrambled.
 
Exactly the same thing can be said about what I perceive to be a much bigger story and a much bigger scandal in Los Angeles sports – the allegation that Tim Floyd paid Rodney Guillory $1,000 for delivering OJ Mayo to the Trojans.
 
Ten days ago, Yahoo Sports broke the story, which I thought was pretty big: A direct, specific allegation that Tim Floyd was seen giving at least $1,000 to Rodney Guillory as a payoff for directing OJ Mayo to the Trojans. Floyd has said nothing in the interim. Garrett has said nothing in the interim. USC’s lawyer said what lawyers always say – “We can’t comment” meaning she didn’t want to comment.
 
In the past ten days, the Times has done essentially nothing. There was a story on the story – with a question mark in the headline. Then there was a Q and A between Adam Rose (USC alum) and Craig Penrose (USC Alum). What a shock – Penrose saw absolutely nothing wrong. There is a nice children’s story called “The Emperor’s New Clothes” which was a lot like that interview. We also heard it a lot from Sgt. Schultz on Hogan’s Heroes.
 
Where has the rest of the Sports Department been? What have you done, personally? Have you asked for an interview with either Floyd or Garrett? If you have and they have refused an interivew, why haven’t you written that? That’s news: “Garrett and Floyd Refuse Offers To Tell Their Side of the Story.” And if you haven’t asked for an interview, that’s a story in and of itself: “The Times Decides To Bury Any Reference To The Latest Scandal at USC.” If the Times decides that the allegations shouldn’t be believed, there is a story there: “There is No Credence to the Unsupported Accusations.” Of course, if that’s the conclusion, then there has to be a factual basis for it, and that would be what Los Angeles sports fans (even transplanted ones) want to see.
 
I took a quick peek at the internet. There are 100 pages of hits (that’s 100 pages of hits, not 100 hits) when I searched for “Tim Floyd USC Payment.” Of those 100 pages, there were exactly two references to the Los Angeles Times. Is the Times as an institution simply not interested? Are you, as a sports journalist, just not interested? If that’s so, report that – it’s news. Totally ignoring everything is news, but obviously it will never be reported.
 
Why the silence? To paraphrase a writer who I’m sure you will agree is pretty good, “Am I out of touch? Am I too angry, too outraged about Tim Floyd and his illegal payoff exile to basketballl purgatory?” Why is there apparently no interest at all on the part of anyone at the Times? Frankly, the silence sounds a lot like an attempt to bury a story which might be embarrassing to a valued client."

by Fox 71 on May 22, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I got a reply from Plashke - sort of.

My e-mail to Plashke was basically the same as that to Streeter, but without the personal embellishments. Here’s his reply.

Original Message -

From: “Plaschke, Bill” <Bill.Plaschke@latimes.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:08 AM
Subject: RE: USC Basketball

“the charges were made by a felon who is trying to sell a book…he is the
only source…I’m not personally involved in it, but I’m guessing that we
need more than one biased source to publicly crucify a man..if it were your
reputation on the firing line, you would feel the same way..” [sic.]

I didn’t think that answer was particularly responsive, so I sent him the following response:

“So the answers to the questions are as follows:

Generally, the source is a felon trying to write a book. Does that mean
that a felon trying to write a book is incapable of being truthful about
anything? Were none of the facts mentioned by Mr. Johnson, the felon and
potential author, worthy of checking? Did you not think it was worth the
effort to call Guillory and ask him? He is trustworthy enough to have
marketed OJ Mayo to Coach Floyd in the first place (according to Coach
Floyd’s own words), but was he not trustworthy enough to call on this issue?
Of course, a call to Coach Floyd would have been easy, and would have been a
scoop since he has yet to utter a word about the accusation.

You guess that you “need more than one biased source to publicly crucify a
man.” Is it the policy of the Times to wait for witnesses to voluntarily
provide information? The Times never seeks out sources to verify things?
The Times reporting staff is just that – you report. There is no
investigative journalism anywhere at the Times? Shame on you, if that is
so. And shame on you if it is not so, and you are not reporting anything to
further some unstated agenda.

Specifically, I asked a series of questions. You answered one, stating you
were not involved, and refused to answer the balance..

Where has the rest of the Sports Department been? Answer: You refuse to
answer. Follow up question: Why won’t you answer.

What have you done, personally? You’re not involved. Follow up question:
Why not? Isn’t it a big enough potential story?

Have you asked for an interview with either Floyd or Garrett? Answer: You
refuse to answer. Follow up question: Has anyone at the Times asked for
such an interview, and if not, why not.

Why hasn’t the Times written any of the suggested headlines? Answer: You
refuse to answer. Follow up question: Don’t you think that your readers
care that the story is just out there festering?

Is the Times as an institution simply not interested? Answer: You refuse to
answer. Follow up question: Why not? Why is there no interest?

Are you, as a sports journalist, just not interested? Answer: You refuse to
answer. Follow up question: Why do you personally have no interest?

Why the silence? Answer: You refuse to answer. Follow up question. Why
won’t you or the Times take a position? Your refusal to take a position –
even to acknowledge the story (or non-story) – is itself news., in my
opinion."

Why do I think that Plashke will not respond to the follow-up question?

by Fox 71 on May 23, 2009 4:55 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If I had guessed someone would reply

it would have been Plaschke. He often does respond to emails. Streeter usually does, too.

The bottom line is that no one at the paper—to our knowledge—is following up on the story. As you noted elsewhere, that’s the (other) scandal.

by Barnes2JJ on May 23, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Profiles In Cowardice

The Trojan Times “coverage” of the shenanigans at U$C* should be compared and contrasted to the coverage of the 1980’s Kentucky basketball payoffs that resulted in the near “death penalty” imposted by the NCAA against that program. The Lexington Herald Leader and reporters Jeffrey Marx and Michael York were awarded the Pulitzer Prize for their investigative reporting of those payoffs, which literally put the lives of the reporters in peril from the crazed Wildcat faithful.

Between the free house for Bush, the luxury apartment for Jarrett and the cash to Mayo there must at least be enough to launch an investigative piece. If the investigation doesn’t turn up anything, than go ahead and report it. But just to remain silent is shameful. That we have to rely on ESPN and Yahoo Sports for investigative journalism in our hometown shows how tremendously weak or biased the local fishwrap has become.

by bruin7982 on May 23, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And no letters to the paper on the topic, either.

I, too, went slumming and read the online Times, today.

Went directly to the letters section. Not one reader questioned the lack of coverage.

I see two possibilities:

First, only sc people read the trojan times; or,

Second, there were critical letters written but they were not published.

One would think that at least one critical letter would have been written.

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 23, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not the former

There were several letters about the Pauley Pavilion Renovation.

by SuperBruinMan on May 23, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The latest exchange from Plashke

Plashke wrote in response to my e-mail above, in which I chastised him for not responding to my questions. Here’s his response. (He’s good at this. Note the subtle manner in which he manages to attack my motives (“sorry you’re so bitter”) for asking him why he’s not doing his job.) Here’s what he said:

“From: “Plaschke, Bill” <Bill.Plaschke@latimes.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: RE: USC Basketball

So you think we’re NOT pursuing the story?..You think we HAVEN’T been
calling people?…You assume that because we don’t write a story, we’re not
checking out all leads?..We chase things hard, and it’s a sign of the
potential weakness in this story that, for all our chasing, we have yet to
find someone to corroborate.

Where have I been on this? I’m the Times’ lead general sports columnist,
meaning I cover the biggest story. If you read our newspaper or website, you
would know that the Lakers are my town’s biggest story. If I’m not covering
them through the playoffs, then THAT’S a story.

I’m sorry you are so bitter about this, and cannot afford me the same
respect that I have afforded you, but, hey, I understand, that’s how the
world works these days

plaschke."

Here is what I sent to him in response. I am trying to goad him a little, in the hope that he’ll say something to the effect that this jerk in Tampa can’t tell me I’m not doing my job. I’ll get Floyd in here and grill him just to show I’m not just$c sycophant." Anyway, my response follows:

“You’re asking me some questions, so I will do what you wouldn’t do.

First question: So you think we’re NOT pursuing the story? Yes. That’s
exactly what I think. The reason I think that is because the Times has yet
to devote one molecule of ink to what some people perceive to be at least as
big a story as the Ramirez suspension. The fact that you are pursuing the
story is newsworthy: “Times Investigative Reporters Unable To Develope Any
Evidence To Corroborate Accusations Against Floyd.” That’s a story. But
that’s not what I think. I think the Times is doing zero. There seems to
be no column space available to publish anything about any aspect of the
Mayo saga. You couldn’t verify the phony foundation, or the plasma TV, or
anything else? Frankly, I don’t believe it. The evidence I’ve seen on
Yahoo (not in the Times) is overwhelming. Yet the Times is silent.

Second question: You think we HAVEN’T been calling people? Yes. That’s
exactly what I think. Any response from anyone you called is newsworthy.
“Floyd Refuses Interview With Times Reporters” is newsworthy. “Garrett
Cites No Comment On An Ongoing Investigation In Refusing Interview.” That’s
newsworthy. “No One In The Lewis Johnson Camp Is Willing To Be
Interviewed.” That would be newsworthy, but that is obviously never going
to be a Times headline, because from everything I’ve seen, Johnson or his
attorney is willing to talk to anyone any time. Have you interviewed
Johnson? If he’s such a sitting duck for impeachment, why don’t you get
your best interviewer to sit down with him and skewer him with questions he
can’t possibly answer? I think the reason for that is clear — no one at
the Times has made any effort to interview him. In my opinion, THAT’S
newsworthy.

Third Question: Where have I been on this? OK, that may have been
rhetorical. Nonetheless, I absolutely cannot accept the fact that since May
12, when Yahoo Sports broke the story, that the Lakers or Manny Ramirez or
whatever is the story du jour has occupied all the time of all the Times
reporters. If I open my Times tomorrow, I suspect I’ll see a story or two
on things other than the Lakers or the Dodgers or the Angels. Is every
reporter at the Times occupied day and night on things other than what may
well be the biggest scandal in college basketball since the point shaving
scandal at Kentucky a few years ago? You have a Trojan alum running your
Bruin and Trojan blogs. Doesn’t he have five minutes to line up an
interview with someone? Oh, I forgot. He found Sergeant Schultz, who
saaawww nothingggg.

Bottom line: I answered all your questions forthrightly. You answered none
of mine or the follow-up questions. The Times is obviously ignoring the
whole Floyd scandal. The only news you carry about it is in the outraged
letters to the Editor — oh, wait. I forgot. None have been published.
The intellectual dishonesty of the Times in general and of its senior
reporters in particular is appalling. And newsworthy. And will never be
printed.

I welcome your response, which I assume will be more of the same. I would
much prefer action rather than excuses for inaction, but I know that will
never happen."

by Fox 71 on May 23, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Why the hell would Plaschke report on this?

That would mean gasp admitting he was wrong about Petey building his program the right way.

by Tydides on May 24, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for you, Fox

I see naasssing.

I vaz not heer.

I did not even vake up zis morning.

Sergeant Schultz

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on May 26, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a response from Simers

Here’s what Simers says: “happen to be a little busy with lakers..all in due time.” What the heck does that mean? He’ll answer my e-mail in good time? He’ll publish a scathing expose that rips the facade of self-righteousness from the festering canker on Figueroa? Or he’ll join the rest of the ostriches and Mr. Magoo look-alikes in saying that the whole thing never happened?

This is really a remarkable state of affairs. And the MSM wonders why it’s a declining industry.

by Fox 71 on May 23, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would choose the second option

Sounds like he intends to write something about it, and I think it’s somewhat reasonable that he hasn’t yet. I don’t agree with the Times’ priorities towards the Lakers on this, but it’s not necessarily too bad that one of the lead columnists is focusing on them. Plaschke and Steeter are the moralizers, so they would be the more likely choices for the condemnation story. I think it’s more damning that neither of those two has written on it, and that there haven’t really even been other stories.

Though, if you had a guy planning on writing a column on something, it probably wouldn’t make sense to kill the story before he has a chance to, so maybe I’m wrong and there won’t be anything more.

by jaffa on May 23, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bravo

Fox, you see what a little goading can get you? It may not get these clowns to actually follow up on the story (as they claim they are already doing), but at least we get to hear their lame excuses. It’s almost like they are saying they can’t concentrate on more than one story at a time. I’d hate to see them try to walk and chew bubblegum.

Look, Plaschke, Simers, et al.: We understand that the hot story right now involves the Lakers. The Dodgers—who have the best record in baseball—are a nice story, too. But I still see stories about hockey, tennis, and even small blurbs about college golf, college softball, etc. in the paper. You can’t print one tiny item about SC and your attempts to follow up on the story? Come on…that one doesn’t pass the sniff test.

by Barnes2JJ on May 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Join in the fun, Barnes.

Send an e-mail to Plashke. The rest of the BN, too. If the guy’s mailbox is constantly full with e-mails chiding him for doing nothing, maybe he’ll get the notion that not everyone in town thinks the earth revolves around Inheritance Hall.

by Fox 71 on May 24, 2009 3:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Will do

I will email him in a day or two and report back. He’s answered my emails before. I don’t want it to seem like a concerted effort by a bunch of gadflies on the same subject.

At least you got Simers to respond. Simers, IMHO, is the ultimate hack. He doesn’t have time to write one word about the Floyd story because he’s “a little busy with the Lakers,” ha ha ha, but he still manages to slip in an insult about Coach Howland in today’s column…which is all about the Lakers.

Hack.

by Barnes2JJ on May 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slimers is a total hack

His insult about Howland isn’t even accurate. He basically said Howland’s bad offense loses close games.
Haven’t we won every single close NCAA Tourney game since Howland came to Westwood?
Didn’t we have one of the most efficient offenses in the nation last year?

by bornagainbruin on May 24, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mere Child's Play

Try kicking the “fishwrap” where it really hurts.

Write the LA Times’ Subscription’s Manager and cancel your subscription citing the lack of follow-up and investigation into the alleged Floyd/Mayo payment as the reason for your termination.

In an era where newspapers are bleeding red-ink, I would think a cancellation (or any signifcant number of them) would have a far greater effect.

by OldSage on May 24, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alas, a bit too late for me.

I cancelled my subscription decades ago.

by Fox 71 on May 24, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cancel your advertisements

IIRC ad space is the problem, not readership.

by SuperBruinMan on May 24, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't Ad Rates Based on Circulation?

If so, canceling subscriptions does hurt them.

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 25, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct

which is why the LAT practically gives away the paper for hardly anything these days.

by Barnes2JJ on May 25, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use your Law Center credential

Try an e-mail to these guys pointing out that you have a degree from just$s* and hate to see its reputation tarnished, etc. Please crack fishwrap investigation team – look into these scurrilous allegations. For example, the ‘wrap could find out through a little leg work whether Timmeh was in fact in Beverly Hills on the day that Johnson says he was there. If Timmeh could demonstrate that he was in Bangor, Maine making a speech in front of a hundred unimpeachable witnesses, then it would poke a pretty big hole in Johnson’s credibility. That could be done with one phone call to Timmeh, who would not be commenting on the investigation, just on where he was.

Or a call to Gulllory. He’s not being investigated by the ncaa, as far as I know. Ask him to confirm or deny what Johnson says? (We can assume that a stand up guy like that would have reported any income he got from Timmeh. And we know he’s a stand up guy, because if he weren’t, Timmeh would never have allowed him into his office to peddle OJ2’s one and done year.

You could add that there are undoubtedly dozens of other ways to get at the truth known only to crack investigative urinalists (I mean journalists) such as are on board at the ’wrap.

In other words – more e-mails to these guys, please

by Fox 71 on May 25, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Wish Is My Command -- Here's My Letter

“Dear Mr. Plaschke,

As a graduate of the University of Southern California Law Center, I take great pride in my law degree and the institution that granted it.

I am deeply concerned about the taint surrounding the SC Athletic Department.

And, I am deeply concerned that the Los Angeles Times, a paper I grew up with, appears to have done so little to get to the bottom of the story.

I think it essential that the truth be told. Whether it exonerates the school or not — the truth should be told.

There was a time when the Times took pride in its investigative journalists. I would hope that that pride still exists and that the talent is there to take a run at this story.

As a documentary film maker, I have faced situations similar to those faced by your reporters. The person making the allegations has a record and may have an interest in spreading his version of the story.

However, that does not, in itself, close the book on the story.

To the contrary, that simply requires that the reporter dig deeper and go beyond that source. All of us who have done this type of work have found that sometimes sleazy people are telling the truth. It just takes some shoe leather and hard work to check into their stories, find better sources and corroborate facts. And, if they are not telling the truth, what better service could be performed than exposing them for the liars that they might be?

To do nothing is an insult to USC and the Times.

To USC because it needs the truth to be told, either to clear its name or to pave the way for reform.

And, to the Times because the failure to investigate perhaps the biggest local sports story in many years — the possibility that SC will be labeled and sanctioned for being “out of control” — will render the Times irrelevant. The failure to do what the Times has done so well in the past, the failure to make an effort to crack this story, the failure to take the journalistic lead on a Los Angeles story, will show the Times to be the dinosaur that many think it is, a dying entity unable to live in a modern world and unable to compete with the new media journalists who are all over this story.

Sincerely

"
I tried to be professional and non-confrontational.

The collapse of the Times does bother me. It was important to me for many years.

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good one

If he replied to mine, he’ll reply to yours. He will undoubtedly reply rather than respond. He’ll answer questions you didn’t ask, and discuss issues you didn’t frame, but he won’t touch the guts of what you wrote, because the fishwrap has an agenda which is to keep just$c* whitewashed and squeaky clean. I have no direct evidence to back up that allegation, but I have tons of circumstantial evidence. Grab each edition for the past 30 years and you’ll see that circumstantial evidence.

by Fox 71 on May 25, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Dufresne

I took a shot and emailed Chris Dufresne of the LAT. I have been very tough on Dufresne on BN because he routinely takes potshots at UCLA and glorifies all things SC* in his columns on college b-ball. I don’t think any further commentary is necessary from me. I think our exchange speaks for itself:

My original email:

Chris, I haven’t seen any follow-up in the Times to the OJ Mayo/Tim Floyd story which Yahoo! Sports broke a couple weeks back. Do you know if anyone at the Times has followed up on this story, including asking Floyd for any comment? I’d like to see some further details, if there are any. Thanks.

His reply:

yes, we’re following it. USC refuses comment because there is an ongoing NCAA investigation..complicating matters is that NCAA does not have subpoena power, so witnesses do not have to cooperate. The NCAA has recently combined the Reggie Bush. O.J. May cases leading some to believe it is winding down its investigation. This has led some to believe we’re looking at some kind of “lack of institutional control” sanctions, but that’s just speculation. My guess is something will be decided by end of summer…but that’s just a guess.

My response:

Thanks. I know no one (Floyd, USC) is going to affirmatively step forward and deny the allegations, but I guess I’m just hoping that someone digs around the edges of this story to see if there is any merit to it. Maybe that is already happening. Thanks again.

His reply:

there are a lot of shovels out there digging….but these are not crimes, remember, only possible NCAA violations. so it gets a little tricky, as in Ricky, as in Neuheisel, but that’s a different story (sorry)

My reply:

I realize that, but that’s not really fair. Neuheisel screwed up at Colorado but was vindicated at Washington for something which had nothing to do with any recruiting violation. If Floyd, or any major college coach, paid someone in an effort to get a player, it may not be a crime, but it’s a huge nationwide story which is actually topical. That’s a little different than an NCAA betting pool or something which Neuheisel did 11 or more years ago. The OJ/Floyd story—whether fictional or not—is just slightly more topical, I would hope you would agree.

And, finally, his reply:

yes, more topical for sure…..

by Barnes2JJ on May 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually there may be crimes involved

If the “false charity” is substantiated, there may be crimes involved.

Also possible IRS violations and wire-fraud.

But, the heart of the story is where you put it.

I once visited a country in which the road crews consisted of one person with a shovel digging and a dozen with shovels standing around. Not much sweat and not much unearthed. What are the lots of Timses shovels doing?

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 26, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to depose these guys.

A deposition of a witness who doesn’t want to answer a question takes a long, long time. It would take a long, long time to depose the ’wrap’s “journalists.” Here’s what you got in your exchange.

You asked one question: “Do you know if anyone at the Times has followed up on this story, including asking Floyd for any comment?” His reply: “yes, we’re following it..” He mentioned that jus$c* won’t comment. That’s it. He did not answer the question of whether anyone at the ‘wrap had asked Floyd for any comment. If they asked and Floyd commented, then that’s a story, and it’s newsworthy. If they asked and Floyd said no comment, then that’s a story and it’s newsworth. I think the more likely scenario is that no one at the fishwrap bothered to call Floyd to ask for a comment. To me, that abdication of journalistic responsibility is a story and is newsworthy. It will never ever be reported.

Then he said, in essence, to trust the fishwrap, that they’re digging frantically to find facts. He didn’t say what the ‘wrap was doing, and what if anything had been verified or ruled out. (E.g., if Floyd had an airtight alibi putting him somewhere else at the critical time, then evidence confirming that fact would be a story and would be newsworthy. Similarly, if independent investigation placed Timmeh in Beverly Hills, then that’s also newsoworthy.

Then, when he wants to divert attention from the lack of action by the ’wrap, he takes a short at Coach Neuheisel.

At this point in the depo, I like to say, “Thank you for answering a question I didn’t ask, but now could you answer the question I did ask. Has anyone from the ’wrap called Floyd?” That’s a yes or no question. I would keep at it until I got a yes or a no, then move on.

The refusal of another alleged journalist at the ‘wrap to answer a straightforward question coupled with his attempt to shift the focus from the failure of the ’wrap to act responsibly to a reference to a decade old mistake made by our coach is an extremely eloquent non-answer. To me, it says that we’re coming close to striking a nerve. Why would he even respond, and then expand the circle by taking a shot at a target which isn’t particularly relevant. (He could have take a shot at you, Barnes.)

I would like to see more e-mails to more reporters. If enough of them get made uncomfortable enough, maybe someone will do something.

by Fox 71 on May 26, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In hindsight

I could and possibly should have asked more pointed questions. While I do appreciate that he actually did respond to me, as you correctly noted, he didn’t provide any information other than what we already knew (i.e., NCAA doesn’t have subpoena power, etc.). Honestly, I was just trying to be as polite as possible.

I do agree, 100%, that the Times has never bothered to call Floyd for comment because they “already know” he won’t respond per SC’s “policy.” That’s a shame and indeed an abdication of journalistic responsibility. As attorneys well know, you ask the question even if you think you know the answer: sometimes you may be very surprised.

I found the dig at Coach Neu telling and 100% consistent with Dufresne’s last 50 columns in the LAT. I don’t understand his love affair with Floyd and SC. He’s the college basketball guy for the Times, not the “SC” guy for the paper. But whatever. Ask him about Floyd and OJ, and he’ll make a bad joke about Coach Neuheisel’s history. So there you go.

by Barnes2JJ on May 27, 2009 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Need to Be More Pointed

Their answers make clear their intentions.

And, it is no surprise.

I mourn the Times that I grew up with and not the fishwrap that currently exists.

When it finally fails, and it will, it will be because the entire paper is permeated with mediocrity and no where is that more evident than the sports section.

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 27, 2009 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Update - Stop The Presses

It has now been more than two weeks since Yahoo broke its story. That sound you hear is all the shovels from the fishwrap digging and digging. They are amassing tons of facts, and cross-checking, alphabetizing and categorizing each and every one. The Pulitizer Prize committee is going to be absolutely stupefied when they see the scientific precision with which the fishwrap reporters analyze every facet of this convoluted story. The public will be appalled and amazed at the surgeon-like skill with which the investigative journalists peel away each of the lies surrounding [insert either Johnson’s or Floyd’s] story, leaving at long last only the stunning and not very pretty truth.

Or not. I personally hear no shovels shoveling. I see business as usual as Mr. Magoo and Sgt. Schultz help Inspector Clouseau keep those famous See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Publish No Evil monkeys in perfect alignment.

That’s a newsworthy story but it will never be published.

by Fox 71 on May 27, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Today, Foster reported

that Timmeh had no comment when asked about it after a booster event in OC.

by bru79 on May 28, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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