Spaulding Roundup: Another Recruit Commits & Transfer Notes
Some quick football related news and notes from the football front. Looks like Rick Neuheisel has picked up his second commitment in this recruiting season:
Fresno (Calif.) Edison defensive back Tevin McDonald verbally committed to UCLA on Thursday, just days after receiving a scholarship offer from the Bruins as a result of a very good performance at UCLA's One-Day Camp.
Go here to read up the scouting report on Tevin. Here is the thing. McDonald has Trojan bloodlines. His Dad Tim McDonald was an All American at U$C*.
The McDonald family from Fresno is going to have an interesting time during the UCLA-USC football game in 2010 now that cornerback Tevin McDonald from Fresno Edison has committed to the Bruins. His older brother, T.J., will be a freshman defensive back at USC this fall. And his father is former Trojan Tim McDonald.
"It is crazy that I am the only Bruin in the family and I was the last boy, but that's how it has to be and I'm ready to take that challenge in," Tevin McDonald tolds Rivals.com.
He was a great defensive back for the Niners that played a huge part in the 1995 Super Bowl championship season. Perhaps it's appropriate. The two Trojans I have ever rooted for - Lott and McDonald - they both will have sons going to UCLA (although Tevin's older brother TJ signed with U$C* this February.
Edison is turning out to be a pretty good pipeline for UCLA. Currently we have Courtney Viney on the team who is an Edison alum. Also the school sent players like Ricky Manning and Brandon Breazell to the program. Not bad. So once again welcome to Westwood Tevin.
Meanwhile, while we are excited about Tevin join the Bruin family, other players who have made decisions to transfer out this off season are finding places to land. Raymond Carter is headed over to Colorado State and Dominque Johnson is headed over to Cal Poly SLO. Per Dominque he transferred primarily for family reasons:
Former UCLA receiver Dominique Johnson, who is from Moreno Valley, said family issues were the driving force behind his transfer to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. His family will re-locate to the SLO area.
If there wasn't such issues?
"I think there was a strong possibility I would have stayed,'' Johnson said.
Best of luck to both of them. Lastly, speaking of transfer note the Brandon Warner saga continues to remain bizarre. He is apparently now heading to New Mexico State and said the following to Dohn:
"I am going to head to New Mexico State,'' Warner said. "Right now, me and UCLA were having problems. I am on my way to call (Bruins coach Rick) Neuheisel today."
As a side note, Warner said he is fully qualified, meaning he would be eligible to play at UCLA.(Editor's note: Sources told me that Warner was told if he received his A.A. degree and was NCAA qualified, UCLA's admissions said they would admit him to school.)
I am sorry but there just way too many gaps in Brandon's story. I just don't think we can really go by with his statements suddenly turning on UCLA after all these weeks of saying how committed he was to joining the program. Given what we have seen from Neuheisel to date, it would be laugable for anyone to claim that he wasn't attentive to any concerns he might have presented before. One thing we have seen from Neuhisel that is pretty clear from last two years: he pays attention to all details when it comes to recruiting. I find it amusing that it took him months to get this transcript situation all figured out for UCLA, yet it took him just days to get all signed up with New Mexico State.
Something is really missing from this story and I am not going to go with the version we are hearing from Warner. Whatever. Time to move. Wish him luck in New Mexico. For us, we have a football program that needs to be focused on rebuilding brick by brick, and less drama there is around it, the better.
GO BRUINS.
0 recs |
20 comments
|
Comments
David Kahn? (un related to this story, but important)!
Has anyone been talking about David Kahn, former Daily Bruin Sports writer ? I worked with him when I was at UCLA in 1983 as sales manager for the paper in my senior year…he is the head guy now in Minn and will be wokring with Kevin Love. Another Bruin success story. And, by virtue of the comments I’ve read on the internet and varoius blogs, a very talented business mind.
by jraucla on Jun 19, 2009 8:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nestor, how can you question Doh!'s report on Warner.
He quoted Warner, and that’s good. Then he said “Sources told me that Warner was told if he received his A.A. degree and was NCAA qualified, UCLA’s admissions said they would admit him to school.” How can you questioin Doh!‘s reliance on people whose names he won’t give and whose qualifications we don’t know, and all that. After all, Doh! is quoting from an anonymous source, so you know it must be absolutely gilt-edged truth.
by Fox 71 on Jun 19, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And it does you credit.
(Look that up – Nanki-Poo says that to Pooh-Bah in Act I of the Mikado. There is a quote from the Mikado that will fit any situation.)
by Fox 71 on Jun 19, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Niners...
That’s funny. Like you, Nestor, I’m also a lifelong Niner fan AND McDonald and Lott are also the only Trojans I’ve ever liked.
Also from Edison Fresno HS, in addition the FB guys you mentioned, was All-American Water Polo goalie Jaime Hipp, who was key in the Bruins winning 2 NCs.
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
by rich87 on Jun 19, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dohn
is stating there is a story behind the story about Warner that he can’t share. Sounds like we will never fully know what transpired with this situation. Something never seemed right from the get go. Hoping CRN can land other DT recruits. Glad McDonald is coming to UCLA. Depth at DB seems pretty solid at this point.
I was a big rams fan growing up (in the bay area). Suffered watching the niners win every year. I sort of rooted for Randy Cross and Mike Sherrard. Lott and McDonald were amazing players. I sat next to Lott at a warriors game. Very scary looking, but quite friendly.
by Bruins095 on Jun 19, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the epitome of unfair reporting
You said “Doh! is stating there is a story behind the story about Warner that he can’t share.”
I don’t know if my least favorite “journalist” said that or it’s just your interpretation of what he said, but either way it’s even worse writing that his incessant use of anonymous sources. It puts the subject of the story in a horrible position.
When Doh! or any writer claims that a particular thing is true, but bases the claim for that truth on an anonymous source, the reader must accept many things as being true: (1) the writer is being truthful in all respects, (2) there was in fact a source, (3) the writer accurately transcribed what the source said, (4) the writer accurately interpreted what the source said, (5) the source was being truthful, (6) the source accurately perceived what he said was true, (7) the source has no bias, (8) the source has no agenda of his own, and on and on.
Now, Doh! says directly or by implication that he’s got a story that is so interesting he can’t even tell you what it is. That’s not just an anonymous source, it’s an anonymous source with an anonymous story. Doh! suggests, by innuendo, that Warner couldn’t get into UCLA because of grades, or because of some character flaw, or because of some other negative thing (he’s secretly a trOJan). “Boy, I sure want to tell you, but I can’t.” The subject of that story is unfairly put in a negative light, and how can he possibly defend himself when he is not even allowed to know what he’s supposed to have done.
That sort of journalism is more reprehensible than the stuff you see in the supermarket tabloids. Those stories are understood by all to be either hyperbole or fiction. Nonetheless, the National Inquirer has a huge budget for handling defamation cases. Doh! and other writers for ostensibly legitimate newspapers hold themselves out to be paragons of reporting virtue, with chivalrous qualities in terms of journalistic honesty. “But I have this story about Warner that’s so sensational I can’t even write it, but boy oh boy if you knew what my anonymous source told me, wow, would you ever think Warner is a bad guy. Gee, I wish I could tell you.”
I am highly critical of Doh!, but I think my criticism is fair. Doh! is critical of guys like Warner, but in the most unfair way possible. The Warner story reminds me of an incident when I was a pledge. I was called to my big brother’s room for an interview. He told me to start doing pushups until I told him what I did wrong. Well, I confessed to a lot of things and never did get around to the thing that caused my big brother to givie me the pushups. What’s the difference between that and what Doh! is doing to Warner?
I truly can’t understand why the BN and its denizens seem to confer automatic legitimacy on Doh!. When he quotes sources to tell a story, I generally accept the truthfulness and accuracy of that quote. Some quotes, of course, must be questioned. CTS was once criticized a specific player and that criticism was quoted and published. When CTS or one of his defenders realized that throwing a player under a bus by name made CTS look bad, the publisher of the quote (who I believe was Doh!) changed the quote to make CTS look better. Nonetheless, a quote is better than a writer’s interpretation of a quote, generally. But this “there really was a story I can’t tell you” business is undefensible. I truly do not understand why it is even referred to other than to serve as the basis for criticism of bad reporting.
by Fox 71 on Jun 20, 2009 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
Steve Bono – he did a great job everytime he was asked to step up when both Montana and Young were injured.
by Nestor on Jun 20, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox
someone asked Dohn in the Q&A if there is a story behind the story that he can’t share. His response was that there is story he can’t share.
by Bruins095 on Jun 20, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What Q&A?
Was this live? Were there other people in the room listening to people asking questions and watching and listening to Doh!‘s answers? Or was this a published Q&A, with Doh! posting the Q’s and Doh! posting the A’s? If it’s the latter, then I absolutely positively stand by my criticism. Remember that Doh! refused to post any questions which were critical of him, so there is definitely a filter on what get’s published. A question inviting an irresponsible response should not have made it through the filter. “Mr. Doh!, recruit John Doe has decided not to come to UCLA, some say because he had problems with his grades, others say because he is a pedophile, and others say because of [name some socially unacceptable characteristic.] Is there a story about this that you can’t tell?” If he can’t give the answer to the question with facts, why post the question? Do you think Doh! would publish any question that I would formulate about his style of journalism? “Mr. Doh!, when are you going to stop lying about your sources, since it’s clear that you’re obviously just making this stuff up?” Obviously a question like that would not make it to a Q and A. He has already demonstrated that he controls the content of his blog or column or whatever you want to call it.
Another question. What reader would phrase a question the way it appears to have come out in a Q and A. The question would have been diirect: “Why did Warner opt out of UCLA?” It wouldn’t have been “Hey Doh! I don’t know why Warner didn’t come to UCLA and would like to know. Do you know the answer? I don’t want you to tell me, I’ll just be secure in knowing that you know.” Does that sound like the way a real person would ask a question? Frankly, I think the question came from one of Doh!’s fictional anonymous sources.
Whatever the source of the question, it is clear to me that the only reason for him to have answered it is for self-aggrandizement — to make him look like he knows more than anyone else. When you think about it, that’s really the story Doh! is trying to get out to the public. He could care less about Warner. The story is Doh!, and his great contacts and insights. That’s OK. He has a right to puff himself up, but I remain of the belief that it’s singularly unfair to do it by publishing an unidentified rumor which is phrased so that the context is unquestionably negative.
Historical anecdote. When I was a student, one of the local TV news guys was George Putnam, slightly to the right of J. Edgar Hoover. During the days of student unrest in the early ’70’s, there was a mild demonstration at UCLA, which George criticized. Then he covered a fire at some factory in Whittier. He ended that story with “As yet, there is no proven connection between the fire in Whittier and the riots at UCLA.” That was, of course, a true statement, but in context it was intended to convey the notion that there was a direct connection, and that he would soon get to the bottom of it. The story was George and his investigative journalism, not a story about a demonstration and a story about a fire.
I remain of the belief that Doh! has yet to rise to the level of the National Inquirer. He wrote a hit piece on a kid who cannot defend himself, and he did it for the same reason a dog licks his genitals – because he can. It is cowardly in the extreme. Yet Doh! is still perceived to be a legitimate writer, worthy of being quoted in the BN. Well, as long as he keeps being quoted, I’ll keep on commenting. I believe my comments about Doh! are much fairer than his comments about Warner.
Disclaimer: I don’t know Warner, never saw him play, have no idea about his character or anything else about him. I know of no story about Warner that I can’t tell or that I can tell. I likewise don’t know Doh!, and don’t read him other than what get’s republished here. If nothing were republished, I would have to find some other subject for my rants.
by Fox 71 on Jun 21, 2009 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Story behing the story...
Could it have to do with DeWayne Walker? I doubt it.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jun 21, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is interesting
That, for whatever reason, after not coming to UCLA after talking about it for so long, he’s now going to where our former DC is the HC.
Don’t know if it’s a coincidence or something more, but it is something I think folks should notice, and if they have information on, share with the rest of us.
by Bellerophon on Jun 21, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Q&A
he does every Friday on his blog. I’m not a big fan of some of the rude and sarcastic answers. People keep asking about this situation, and like some others they should know the only answer they are going to receive is that he can’t say anything more.
by Bruins095 on Jun 21, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But why would you accept the basic premise?
Doh! says that he got a particular question sent to him, and you accept that he is telling the truth. I don’t believe the basic premise for reasons I outlined above. I can’t prove that Doh! didn’t get a question which asked him to say whether there was something that couldn’t be said which contributed to something. But logic and Doh!‘s history suggest that it didn’t happen the way he said.
by Fox 71 on Jun 21, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox
There must be some confusion. I never accepted any premise. All I did was share what was written on his blog. You inquired if Dohn wrote the comment I referenced ,or if it was my interpretation. I’m not defending any particular position nor arguing in any way.
by Bruins095 on Jun 22, 2009 12:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no worries
thanks for the daily updates and info.
by Bruins095 on Jun 22, 2009 5:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "you" was intended to be more global
As you (this time not global) have undoubtedly perceived, I am highly skeptical of anything emanating from or attributed to Doh!. He has proven himself to me (not necessarily to others) to be a charlatan, and to be reckless with the truth. My moan about “why do you accept the basic premise” was another wail from the wilderness about why anyone would accept the basic premise that the Q’s in his Q and A’s are actually Q’s from actual people.
I disagree with Nestor on one aspect of things. He encourages you to keep reporting on what Doh! says. I have campaigned for a long time to have a moratorium on Doh!.
We have something like two months before the football opener. Wouldn’t now be a good time to see if we could do without Doh!? Let’s see if the BN can survive without quotes from or references to him. One benefit of course would be fewer rants from me, and that has to be good by any standard.
by Fox 71 on Jun 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
where you are coming from. I delve daily into all the bruin boards to find updated info on UCLA programs. Following the Warner story has left me very frustrated as has been the case on previous occasions. Most of my commentary is in direct response to the posting and conversation on this site. I appreciate your insight and analysis.
by Bruins095 on Jun 22, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

by 


















