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USC Gets Its Guy...It's 5th Guy

Trying to find a coach to take over a program that doesn't have an outstanding history, has a small fan base, saw nearly every player that could bolt for the NBA and does not have a single recruit signed for 2009 can't be easy. Oh, they also have possible NCAA sanctions hanging over their head. Because of that, it's not much of a surprise that Jamie Dixon turned them down (twice), as did Reggie Theus, Lon Kruger and Jeff Van Gundy. Well, after going through all those guys, SC has finally gotten themselves a head coach, Kevin O'Neil (HT to muircoach). He's a familiar face to UCLA and the Pac-10 too because he spent a year leading Arizona.

Kevin O'Neill, whose departure from Arizona made headlines in 2008, returned to college basketball with the announcement he has been hired as USC's men's basketball coach following the resignation of former coach Tim Floyd.

O'Neill has worked at both the college and pro levels, spending the 2009 season as an assistant coach and special assistant to the general manager of the Memphis Grizzlies.

It's rather doubtful that O'Neil's USC program ever really threatens UCLA. In his only year at Arizona, he lost to UCLA twice. It was only a two-point game when they played in Tucson, but when the Wildcats visited Pauley, they lost by 22. This hire will likely be met by some skepticism from the Trojan fans. Maybe they should have hired an interim coach and looked for a permanent guy next offseason? Mike Garrett doesn't think so.

"We're thrilled to have Kevin O'Neill as our men's basketball coach," USC athletic director Mike Garrett said in a release. "Kevin is the consummate coach. He knows his Xs and Os, he's an excellent recruiter and he is very in tune with the academic side of a player's collegiate experience. His 30 years of experience at the college and professional levels has prepared him well for this opportunity.

"I love his coaching philosophy and principles: he's a no-nonsense coach who is very detail-oriented and prepares his teams well. He stresses defense and I've always believed that defense wins championships."

Hmmm, this one could be interesting. There are some major questions as to whether or not O'Neil can competently coach a team. He will rely on defense and rebounding, some things he's been charged with coordinating multiple times as an assistant at both the college and pro level. His offense has been criticized before though and he's never really been charged with recruiting the way he'll have to as a head coach. O'Neil isn't leading anyone to the promise land, but his USC program should be able to get back to mediocre. At this point, can USC ask for anything more?

If SC did anything right with this hire, it's that they hired a guy who is clean. There hasn't been an suspcision around O'Neil's recruiting tactics and by all accounts, he's a by the book guy who will run a clean program so SC has that going for them. Will they have any wins going for them though? O'Neil is taking over a bonafide disaster zone.

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Who has O’Neill ever recruited?

by Herodotus on Jun 20, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Good hire for SC.

O’Neill has done just enough to qualify for a title like Basketball Coach. He understands the quagmire he is getting into, and yet it is still enough of an opportunity for it to be worth it to him to take the job. This is easily a position he can keep for the 4-5 years it will take for the sun to shine on South Central’s basketball program again. In that time any moral victories he accumulates will only look that much better for the deplorable condition he inherited.

Rye could not have said it better; The only expectations hanging over O’Neill’s head is to ’return to mediocrity."

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jun 20, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Umm

He IS the interim hire.

by Karl II on Jun 20, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I will give him 3 years

before he gets canned for the next reject.

by Nestor on Jun 20, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why I do not respect Kevin O'Neill......

In 1995, he became the head coach of Tennessee basketball. Just before the NCAA tournament began, he was giving a talk at a local charity organization in the Knoxville area. I was in town and decided to go. The main part of his speech was about all the great programs in the history of college basketball and how he was going to bring this tradition to UT. He spoke about Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina and some others as well as many of the coaches involved in their programs. Never once did he mention UCLA or John Wooden. How can you just leave us out?? Afterwards, I went up to talk with him. I asked him why he never mentioned UCLA. He said……and I quote, “Because I hate UCLA”. Then he asked where I was from and I said Westwood. He got a little red at that point and sort of fumbled around, saying, well, uh you know – I used to coach under Lute at Arizona, so that is why I said that……..I told him that we were going to win the championship and he said – Oh no – you will lose in the second round. I still insisted that we would win and then he said – do you want to bet? So we bet a dollar. He still owes me that dollar. When a person is giving a speech such as he gave, leaving out the best program ever because he “hates” them, and does not even acknowledge the greatest coach of all time deserves absolutely no respect in my book.

by Westwooden1 on Jun 20, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I was waiting

for you to write about this mom! I’m glad they picked him – he belongs there. Let him hate on as he will continue to lose to us!

GO BRUINS!!!

by uclafan11 on Jun 20, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know who he reminds me of?

Paul Hackett.

This is going to be fun.

by Nestor on Jun 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOTALLY!

LOL! Paul Hackett was one of my all time favorite $c coaches.

by uclafan11 on Jun 20, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

KO = Bruin's Bane

I love that he is being underestimated.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 20, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Two questions for you DFW trOJan

1. Did Timmeh give an envelope of money to Guillory. Yes or no. I don’t care who the source of the information is. Did Timmeh give Guillory any money.

2. Did OJ2 get any extra perks while he was at your school? Did he have a plasma TV in his dorm room, yes or no. Did he have a credit card from the phony foundation, yes or no.

And a more general question to boot. How can an otherwise normal, respectable person, with a normal allotment of integrity, just sit quietly when all the blatant cheating is taking place? Why won’t ANY trOJie rise up and say enough? How can you allow Cheatie Petie to continue doing what he does?

by Fox 71 on Jun 20, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Answers

1) No.
2) Yes, but not from SC staff. From employees, or contractors, of BDA Sports.

USC had no knowledge of the illicit benefits. USC will sue BDA Sports when the NCAA report comes out. Rumor is that we will lose 2 basketball scholies. USC does not cheat. Keeping the agents off of superstar, hundred million dollar athletes in the city of Angels is next to impossible. SC needs to explore new methods for combating the agents.

NCAA comes down hardest when violations infringe upon the academic objectives for a student-athlete. NCAA comes down hard when university staff or boosters are involved in illicit benefits. Neither is the case, but SC will be hit……with moderate sanctions. Not Bama or FSU-level.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 20, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for engaging in a dialogue, DFW

I believe that you think you are correct in all this. The evidence is there, and you refuse to see it. I doubt if you would believe a confession, but if you would, look up Clarence Reece. He confessed. Nothing happened to your school, other than more erosion of any self esteem that trOJies could collectively have.

Just a couple of follow-up questions. You sais “USC had no knowledge of the illicit benefits.” Does that mean that you acknowledge that there were illicit benefits? Sounds like it. But how do you know that no one at all in the Athletic Department had any knowledge of anything? What’s your source of information? If it’s simple faith, I’ll accept that as a basis, although not as a very good one given the evidence and the inferences which arise from that evidence to the contrary.

How do you know that “USC will sue BDA Sports when the NCAA report comes out”? Frankly, that would be a Godsend to the rest of the world, because it would force your school to involve itself in discovery. And as a plaintiff, you can’t sue someone and then claim a Fifth Amendment privilege when the questions get too tough. I always assumed just$c* (sorry, that’s my terminology showing) was too institutionally smart to risk civil litigation because quite frankly you guys could not survive discovery. All those things which a private school can keep hidden would be fair game. Please tell me that you know this for sure, and it’s not just speculation on your part. I’ll be glad to help. I’ll even contribute the filing fee, just to get just$c* into court.

You said “USC does not cheat.” Sorry, you’ll have to defend that one on your own. The evidence is clearly to the contrary.

OK, your turn. I appreciate your courage in coming into the land of Bruins and trying to engage in a conversation that’s a step or two above the junior high level stuff we both sometimes see on other boards.

by Fox 71 on Jun 21, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just Speculation about Future Litigation

See USC v Caron. USC was the first university to utilize a unique CA law that allows universities to sue agents who entice student-athletes to violate NCAA amateur status rules. Yes, USC will likely pursue a suit, but I will not know for sure until the decision is made after the NCAA acts. Discovery is no concern whatsoever. The law holds sports agents and those affiliated with them culpable for enticing athletes to breach NCAA rules. USC’s actions, or inactions, regarding NCAA rules are irrelevant to the case. Thus, discovery is of no concern to USC. And, per the OTL report, Louis Johnson has already provided evidence to prove the Gillory and he enticed Mayo into breaking NCAA rules. Lloyd Lake has provided similar evidence in the Reggie Bush case. There remains no empirical evidence in either case that USC staff had any knowledge of these improprieties.

USC should pursue a case against BDA Sports, Guillory, Johnson, Lake, Michaels, and OJ Mayo himself if any NCAA sanctions are handed down that adversely impact sports revenue.

If you think that USC knew about these illicit benefits, or even participated in them, please provide your evidence. The world would love to see it. Sadly, it simply does not exist because it didn’t happen. I’ll be happy to retract this if we ever see empirical evidence to the contrary.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a funny line

Since there is no evidence beyond the litigation venue at this snap shot of time it means “it didn’t happen.” You can spin as much as you want but the fact is withing weeks of a story broke about your basketball head coaching delivering cash payments to your program making student athlete, your entire basketball program imploded and that head coach left never publicly contesting those allegations. If Timmeh is innocent then I’d love to hear his defense. So far we have heard nothing.

As far as whether U$C* knew of illicit benefits … given all the information that has been reported in public …. and we are not going to rehash it all over again … given we have talked about so many times here on BN … the appearance of a program where super star athletes such as Bush, Jarrett were allegedly receiving hundreds of thousands of $$ of improper benefit w/o anybody in the program knowing about it … doesn’t pass the smell test. We will see how the NCAA resolves these issues.

As for U$C* trying to always pass the buck by not taking any shred of responsibility and blame some else, it will only further cement the image of program that is arrogant and no concept of what it means to take responsibility.

It’s always blame someone else at U$C* and your post above only cements that narrative.

by Nestor on Jun 21, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Discovery and relevance?

The Caron case must have been in Judge Mike Garrett’s courtroom. If just$c* is the plaintiff, then it must prove that something one of the defendants did caused it damage. I’m not sure what kind of damage just$c* is alleging, but no matter what it is, a defendant can always claim that something else caused the damage. For example, if it’s a car crash case and the plaintiff says he hurt his leg, the defendant can try to prove that he hurt his leg at some other time and in some other way, and the acts of the defendant did not cause the damage.

Here, if the case is all about Guillory et al doing things to entice an athlete to break the rules, then any defense attorney who actually graduated from law school and passed the bar would try to prove that the athlete was not caused to break the rules by anything the defendant did, but rather the cause of the rule-breaking was something else, If I were defending one of these guys (and I can only pray that I somehow get appointed to the defense team) I would allege that just$c*’s lack of institutional control caused the rules violations, and I would start examining every document and deposing everyone from Sample on down. (The case that says you can’t depose the CEO wouldn’t apply, because Sample has taken a well-publicized interest in the case.)

Irrelevant is an almost impossible objection to uphold. All I would have to show is that the information sought is relevant to the subject matter of the litigation or would tend to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. There is nothing just$c* could do to keep me from pleading causation as a defense, and that makes your whole program fair game in discovery. The “we can’t comment about an on-going ncaa investigation” won’t fly, because just$c* instituted the suit, and you can’t put something at issue and then refuse to talk about it.

I wasn’t there for the case you mentioned, but I know I wuld be thrilled to represent the defendants in the case your alma mater is apparently contemplating.

And the evidence of illicit benefits is overwhelming. Do your research. It’s all here. And the confession by Clarence Reece is something that just can’t be denied.

So I wouldn’t be so quick to discount the adverse effect that a lawsuit would have. I would be happy to conduct the deposition of Cheatie Petie or Mike Garrett on a pro bono basis. And before you ask, I would never in a thousand years agree to any confidentiality provisions. So please do what you can to get that lawsuit filed sooner rather than later.

by Fox 71 on Jun 21, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defense Attorney for Hire?

Please, I beg of you, contact Guillory, BDA Sports, Lake, and Michaels to solicit their representation. You would be great. The ambulances can wait. I do hope that you, or one of your Bruin colleagues, can win the business. Don’t worry about contacting Johnson, however, as he has already started a pre-emptive defense strategy with counsel.

Again, USC is not concerned about discovery because USC is innocent and has nothing to hide. Of course, you would never be successful in gaining judicial support for your scorch the earth tactics of deposing the entire USC admin. You can not prove relevance to the case at hand, which is whether or not scumbag agent #1 gave gifts to a scholarship athlete or his family off-campus in violation of NCAA rules. Be careful, or the judge will admonish your behavior in court! Regardless, please contact the future defendants. I beg of you.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 21, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

I’ve been trying to stay out of this all day but I can’t… “Again, USC is not concerned about discovery because USC is innocent and has nothing to hide.” Hilarious! LOL! If you really and truly believe that I have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona you might be interested in.

by uclafan11 on Jun 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He thinks

Guillory and these other agents put on some magic suit and made themselves invisible when they were walking into Trojan offices and hanging around the sidelines. The guy is more delusional than we thought and he actually thinks he can come over here and lecture everyone as if he owns this place. A typical arrogant, delusional and clueless Trojan.

by Nestor on Jun 22, 2009 4:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not a violation

Neither is Sonny V walking around your hoops offices.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

Sonny V is not implicated in a scandal that involves UCLA’s star player getting thousands of dollars in illegal benefits. Sonny V is not involves in a scandal accusing Howland of giving free cash to our players.

by UniversityofSecondChoice on Jun 22, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the reference above

It’s clear he is here to troll. He is not here to engage in a discussion.

by Nestor on Jun 22, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Show me the proof

oh, that’s right, there isn’t any. this makes your argument quite unconvincing.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhm

Think again if you want to come out here and take a condescending tone with us. You are more delusional than a typical Trojan if you actually believe Timmeh had the option to leave for Zona.

by Nestor on Jun 22, 2009 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

How do you know he got a job offer?

Were you present when the offer was made? Did you see a written offer of employment? Do you have first hand knowledge of something? As I recall, Timmeh did not say “I was offered the head coaching job at UA and turned it down.” As I recall, no one at UA said “I offered Timmeh the job as head coach at UA, and he turned it down.” So far, you are the only person claiming first hand knowledge of these facts. So if you have the actual facts, then tell us. Who said what to whom? When were these things said? Where were they said? Who else was present when the job offer was made. Were any conditions involved with the job offer? What was Timmeh’s salary to be?

You might also simply be making an assumption, and that’s OK, too. You should identify it as an assumption, though, or else you’ll get grilled about facts which you can’t possibly know anything about. Frankly, it doesn’t make you look any more knowledgeable when you claim something is a fact when you can’t possibly know it to be a fact.

by Fox 71 on Jun 22, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What "reputable" source?

The source is not identified in that article. From reading that article the source could be Floyd’s agent himself. There is nothing in that article that shows the source was associated with Arizona. Using Floyd’s agent as a source would be using OJ as a source on information on the real killer.

by UniversityofSecondChoice on Jun 22, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other words, you are offering your opinion and your speculation

There’s nothing wrong with that, but here at the BN we label opinions as such when we offer them up.

You know of no more of the facts regarding any discussions between someone at UA and Timmeh than I do. I don’t try to defend my lack of first hand knowledge. You seem to think its an attack on your manhood (I assume your are male; sorry if I’m in error) to admit that you have no first hand knowledge.

Slight change of subject: Did Timmeh resign from just$c* or was he fired? I have no first hand knowlege, but I can give you my opinion based on what I believe to be facts. But I would be interested in your take.

by Fox 71 on Jun 22, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You Label Opinions?

Really? I sure hadn’t noticed. My source is Jeff Goodman, FoxSports. Timmy resigned, but it was a negotiated buyout. The administration was not going to fire him, at least not until and unless some material evidence of infractions manifested, such as an NCAA notice of infractions. However, AD Garrett did not publicly support Timmy during the bogus, uncorroborated Yahoo hit piece. So, out of frustration with the admin and players leaving early for the draft, he resigned with honor. At 55, he is also the oldest living male in a family with a history of heart problems. His father died at 53, and Timmy had doctor’s instructions to decrease his stress level.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

"The administration was not going to fire him, at least not until and unless some material evidence of infractions manifested, such as an NCAA notice of infractions"

Once again, how do you know? Did Garrett tell you this? Why is it that you take a conclusion you’ve made and label it a fact, and expect the rest of the world to share that assumption? So once again, and we’ll go over this as many times as we have to, how do you know that “The administration was not going to fire him, at least not until and unless some material evidence of infractions manifested, such as an NCAA notice of infractions.” You might be an expert, but there is a jury instruction about experts which says, in paraphrase, that an expert’s opinion is only as good as the reasons given for the opinion. So what are your reasons?

You cite Jeff Goodman of Fox Sports. OK, fair enough. What is Mr. Goodman’s evidence? Did he talk to Garrett? Did he talk to Timmeh? In the absence of facts, why should Mr. Goodman’s opinion be given any more weight than yours or mine?

How about this. I was told by “anonymous sources” that Garrett told Floyd that he would be fired if we didn’t resign, and he would give him 24 hours max to come up with the story he wanted to spin to the press. How’s that? My “facts” are now better than yours, because I have an anonymous source. Never mind who the source is. Maybe he’s the same guy who spoke to Goodman. Maybe he told Goodman what Goodman wanted to hear, but told me the truth? Maybe my anonymous source was Mike Garrett himself. See how good my anonymous source is?

(I have to tell you, DFW, I’m not particularly impressed with the quality of the argument you’re bringing to the table. It’s not really a difficult topic here. You either have first hand knowledge or you don’t. You seem to think that if it’s said in a blog or in a newspaper it must be true. I guess I’m a little more skeptical. Maybe it’s all the years in a courtroom. Or maybe it’s just having an aversion to group Kool-Aid sipping.)

OK, your turn.

by Fox 71 on Jun 22, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh no

Your source is a Jeff Goodman article with an anonymous source without any clarity whether that source was associate with Arizona or Floyd.

We haven’t seen anyone from Arizona who has mentioned that they had offered Timmeh. From Timmeh’s side it makes no sense whatsoever for him to reject an offer (if he actually received one) only to skip town like did few days ago. There has been no explanation whatsoever for Timmeh’s sudden “departure” and the nonsense you are spouting here is not making your stained program look better.

At this point, what’s clear you are here just to troll and bait everyone else into a flame war (for reference the idiotic references to Sonny V above). So take the nonsense and keep spouting it wherever you came from. Otherwise, if you are going to engage in flame bait and also insult the moderators (we have already deleted one of your post) you will be gone. This is a warning and we won’t give you any more in this thread or anywhere else.

by Nestor on Jun 22, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad he couldn't cut it

Poor DFW. He will go to his grave patting himself on the back about how he tore everyone in the BN to shreads with his brilliant logic and iron clad arguments. I guess he truly couldn’t grasp that calling an opinion a fact doesn’t make it a fact.

Well, DFW trOJan, rest in peace. I tried to lead you away from the road to intellectual error in the hope that you would see the light and renounce your trOJan-ness. But not so. You were truly blinded by the light. (Someone please cue up that song, which is so appropriately dedicated to DFW trOJan, given that the nonsense lyrics of that song match up so well with his nonsense logic.)

by Fox 71 on Jun 22, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

T'is a Pity

You chaps are quite humorous. Too bad we can’t engage in civilized debate on a level playing field. I come here for the witty repartee with virtuous intentions.

Yet, my erudite discourse is censored by overzealous board mods. I offer you keen insight into USC athletics, yet you dismiss my intelligence. I offer you factual information with credible, mainstream sources, yet you discount the fidelity of the sources. I am here to help. Your blind ideological fervor has deafened you to the sound of logic and truth.

USC is innocent in the Bush/Mayo allegations. Timmy was unfairly maligned. Pete’s character remains pristine. The Trojans have committed no infractions. And, there is simply no evidence to suggest the contrary. Your jihad against the almighty Trojans is based on false pretenses. I will continue my work to lead you down the path of enlightenment.

Or, we can settle this old school-style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGGKrMyZ3o&feature=related

The choice is yours. Choose wisely. ;-)

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok still laughing...

but I have to say something. You say you are offering “keen insight”? HOW? You have provided no evidence that $c is innocent of any of the charges. “Factual” evidence? You KNOW the trOJans have committed “no infractions?” How would you know that? I think you must just be trying to get a rise out of people because your above statements are unsubstantiated and ridiculous.

by uclafan11 on Jun 22, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry DFW, you have no insights, keen or otherwise

You label your opinions as fact, and expect the rest of the world to accept your beliefs as fact. You offer absolutely zero first hand knowledge, and you offer zero evidence from anyone else with first hand knowledge. I’m not trying to insult your intelligence, because you do an excellent job of that on your own, but rather trying to point you toward the areas of your argument which are weak. The fact is that you bring nothing to the discussion.

by Fox 71 on Jun 23, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Keen Insight"?

That is truly the most hilarious thing you’ve claimed here, out of all the desperate, self-aggrandizing, meaningless, unsubstantiated tripe you’ve taken the time to write.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Jun 23, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a question

when was the last time SC self reported a violation without the media picking it up first?

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jun 20, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN Promo - Matt Leinart

http://www.fanblogs.com/usc/006280.php

Minor infractions happen all the time to every program. Most are never reported to the press, so I have know idea what the last one was.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 21, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

HIGH-larious!

So U$C self-reports when there’s a promo done that is seen by millions of people on a cable channel. Awesome!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know it was a violation....

when you saw it? of course not. USC self-reported. Silverlake was confused on this issue.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Violation

A Trojie is lecturing people about NCAA “violations”?

by UniversityofSecondChoice on Jun 22, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The NCAA knew

and that’s all that matters.

Other than that, I do know that paying off players is a violation.

And letting agents into your locker room is also a violation.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jun 22, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because

he has always proved his detractors wrong? He has always been popular among fans and players? All the articles about him are positive? Some of them? Any of them?

by SuperBruinMan on Jun 21, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good job on staying classy on this one Bruins. O’Neil is in for a rough ride, and $C* fans with him…

They don’t need our help to feel sorry about their hire…

by impaulv on Jun 21, 2009 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing to "estimate"

We are not going to spend time analyzing Just$C* hoops unless of course you manage to get yourself in the news for violations/scandals (which seems to happens all the time over at Fig Tech).

by Nestor on Jun 21, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Underestimated?"

Pardon the vernacular, but what the hell are you talking about?

Seriously, look up the word “underestimate.” Look up “bane” too, while you’re at it. I think you may be having an episode of disassociative disorder.

What was Tim Floyd, “misunderstood?”

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Jun 23, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jamie dixon

I’m not surprised by the latest hire by the Crosstown Crooks. What did surprise me was all the speculation by the media as well as BN as to the potential hire of Jamie Dixon. Dixon has a great gig at Pitt and he has really got it going. His coaching style is perfect for the Big East. Why would he want to come to South Central and coach in a 3d rate program? I would also think that he respects Ben Howland too much to take on a job at SC. CBH is clearly his mentor and what he learned from his mentor is ethics and values do matter. These are things that do not exist at Fig Tech.

by bruin75 on Jun 21, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Bruin Report Online

was really big on the DIxon really wants to come back to LA and will go to SC if he gets a long contract thing, but I never bought it. It would be a really stupid move, and only a desperate coach would take that kind of gamble.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jun 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially with sanctions in the offing

And Lil Romeo as your starting PG.

$UCk On!

by Tydides on Jun 22, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Gerrity...

will play PG in conference games.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dixon was Extremely Interested

Negotiations lasted the entire week. He wanted more than we were willing to offer at the present time. Dixon obviously does not have so much respect for Howland that he would be deterred from competing against him. As a matter of fact, I would offer that a competitor shows more respect by seeking out compeitition, rather than avoiding it. Besides, in all honestly, wouldn’t a Dixon/Howland matchup really help take the inner-city rivalry to a national-level, benefiting both sides. I think it would be a blast and will happen in 3 years.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

How could you possibly know this?

Did Dixon tell you he was interested? Did you participate in the discussions? What are the facts on which you base these statements? What I heard was that Dixon said (see, this is a statement of fact with an indentification of the source) that his family wasn’t interested in moving from Pittsburgh.

by Fox 71 on Jun 21, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Negotiated for a week

and has been interested in the SC job for quite some time. Timing was bad this time around.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

By negotiating

do you mean that U$C begged and begged and begged while Dixon kept saying No and No and No?

That’s not negotiating, that’s stalking.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jun 22, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG LOL!

When he was at AZ my mom and I called him “Clown Boy” cause he totally looks like that. HAHAHAHA!

by uclafan11 on Jun 22, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My request to BN moderators

Please start referring to this reject as Krusty!! Timmeh To Krusty!!!

by UniversityofSecondChoice on Jun 22, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was the 2nd candidate to receive a term sheet offer

although, we may have discussed terms with Lon Kruger, as well. hiring a coach in June is terrible timing.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh whatever

You are stuck with your 5th choice and no matter how much you troll here that will not change that point. So really we are done discussing with you about the 5th choice of a mid major basketball program. Later.

by Nestor on Jun 23, 2009 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Factual, No Source

Hmmm, just because you say it’s a fact, doesn’t make it so. And, your identified source remains unidentified. You’ve got to wake up much earlier in the morning to pull the wool over my eyes. Yes, we negotiated with Dixon for over a week, made an offer, and a counter-offer. He negotiated back. He wanted terms that were unacceptable to USC. But, he will almost certainly be USC’s coach w/in the next 5 years or so. His wife is a USC grad, he is from the valley, and his family is in SoCal and Hawaii. USC is a targeted destination for Jamie Dixon. The timing simply wasn’t right.

And, why the concern? A Dixon/Howland matchup would be awesome for the rivalry. KO will be better than you guys think, however.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 21, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

This is from Andy Katz
Dixon was and remains USC’s top target, but he has told the Trojans he’s staying at Pitt, as his family has no interest in moving from Pittsburgh to Los Angeles.

Relaying a quote directly from Dixon, so it looks like it’s an identifiable source after all. See, unlike you, Katz is putting his name behind it and he too is naming names. Sounds like you’re the only one here that can’t back his claims up. And what part of KO’s sterling tenure at UA indicates he will be any better than the time he beat you guys but then turned around and got blasted out of Pauley? Yeah, nothing. You lose. Again.

by Tydides on Jun 22, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Umm, that's not a quote from Dixon

You need to look for the quotation marks. " " Nice try.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

KO may be better than what we think

but then again, you have no idea how lowly we think of U$C…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jun 22, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty Low...

is the feeling I get. But, that’s ok. The Pac-Life championship gives me immeasurable joy.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

And that's why you'll always be

justSC*

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jun 22, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pac Life "championship"

I bet you are going to waive around that tshirt when competing for the 9th spot under your new coach – Crusty The Clown – next season.

by UniversityofSecondChoice on Jun 22, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one thing I can say

is that its refreshing to see a trOJan that actually cares about u$c basketball. Rare…

by uclafan11 on Jun 22, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now That IS Sad...

…“immeasurable joy” from that “championship.”

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Jun 23, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stais Boseman

arrested for “allegedly” prticipating in carjacking. Stay classy.

by Bruins095 on Jun 22, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

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