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UCLA: Where Amazing Begins

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 Coach Howland Firing Up His Ben Ball Warriors (Photo Credit: Jack Rosenfeld)

From the official site:

Now that the 2009 NBA Draft is history, UCLA has 14 men's basketball alumni on the rosters of NBA teams. Nine of them have played for head coach Ben Howland, who has produced six first-round picks in the last four years, the highest total in the nation during that span.

Seven of the Bruins are first round draft picks -- Baron Davis (No. 3 in 1999), Jordan Farmar (No. 26 in 2006), Aaron Afflalo (No. 27 in 2007), Russell Westbrook (No. 4 in 2008), Kevin Love (No. 5 in 2008), Jrue Holiday (No. 17 in 2009) and Darren Collison (No. 21 in 2009).

Two of the Bruins have won an NBA championship with the Los Angeles Lakers -- Trevor Ariza and Farmar. Three of the alums will be participating in a USA Basketball mini-camp next month - Ariza of the Lakers, Love of the Minnesota Timberwolves and Westbrook of the Oklahoma City Thunder.

9 of these Bruins played for Coach Ben Howland and from pov 7 of them (you know who they are) earned their stripes as Ben Ball warriors. Either way Coach Howland has more than enough ammo. (data points) to burn up the recruiting trail in coming years.

Apparently there are still number of folks out there who have no idea about the way Coach Howland has prepared his players for the next left. I especially had to laugh a little at this question posed by the Liberty Ballers:

LB: UCLA has had a handful of unpolished, athletic guys who turned out better than expected in recent years. See: Farmar, Ariza, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Westbrook. Holiday seems to fall in this same category. Do you see him developing as well as these guys?

Calling JF, LRMAM and RW "unpolished" out of college? Guess they must have missed all the comments from Jackson and Skiles re. how well prepated they found JF and LRMAM out of UCLA. Of course RW's rookie season speak for itself.

Unless ML comes out next season (and he just might if he has a RW like second season) I think UCLA's streak of first round NBA draft picks will end next year. However, the way Coach Howland is running this program no doubt NBA teams will continue to stockpile with Ben Ball warriors in the coming season.

GO BRUINS.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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good read, but i couldn’t help but notice CBH wearing white sneakers with a suit. good stuff man

by Bruin4ever15 on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's for Cancer Awareness

All the coaches wear white shoes that day. Also, I notice this game is against Clownboy during is Zona days…

by uclafan11 on Jun 30, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh

good to know. thanks!

by Bruin4ever15 on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this official?

Are we calling him clownboy now? One thing about Timmeh, what a great nickname to be stuck with. I also like Cheat Carroll. Do we have one for Kevin O’Neill yet?

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook wasnt able to thrive in Ben Howland's system.

but he’s doing decent for the OKC Thunders. Problem is that Russel isn’t really a shooting PG, but a scoring one. There might be some problems down the road, but we’ll have to see.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 3, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Are you talking about Jim Westbrook, who played for Coach Warren Howland at South East West Northern during the 30’s? I can’t think that you’re talking about Russell Westbrook and Coach Ben Howland.

by Fox 71 on Jul 3, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch ANY UCLA games while he was here?

Your post suggests that the answer is No. You see, the only thing that has been tactically consistent for all of CBH’s years in Westwood, and therefore the only thing worthy of being called a “system” has been on the defensive end, and if you claim that RW wasn’t able to shine defensively then I really have no further reason to listen to anything you have to say.

I would love to hear your definition of “thriving” in a system, because between the highlight Youtube dunks on Cal and Oregon and his defensive ball hawking opposite Darren Collison, he had every opportunity to thrive in 2007-2008 and he made the most of it parlaying his breakout season into a #4 overall pick.

If I wanted to hear ignorant regurgitated talking points about our players and our coach, I’d go hang out on ESPN. Leave the analysis to the guys that actually watch the games: Us. (Incoming gratuitous cheap shot warning: Not that I’d blame a Clipper fan for not actually watching basketball, after all, it is the worst franchise in professional sports according to SI)

by Tydides on Jul 4, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And while you're at it, explain what this means, please.

“Problem is that Russel isn’t really a shooting PG, but a scoring one.” (Incoming gratuitous cheap shot warning: Frankly, you write like a Clipper fan, which makes me doubt that you aced your first two English classes.)

by Fox 71 on Jul 4, 2009 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I never thought a comment would provoke you guys that much.

I can honestly tell you guys I’m a Bruin fan. I’ve been a Bruin fan and will always be a Bruin fan. I grew up in a highschool where it consist of mostly USC fans, but I still screamed for UCLA blue, so there really wasn’t any cheap shot intended there. If you don’t blieve me thats fine, I’m not trying to make a believer of anybody that I’m not a Bruin fan.

Anyways, just to clear things up: If we look back during that season, Memphis vs UCLA. Clear cut that Rose was a great player, speed, intelligent, great handling, etc etc. Seems to me that Rose went over and beyond on Collison. At that point in the game, I would have thought that Howland would have used Westbrook ( I was actually hoping he would since Westbrook was playing for Collison a few games before and preformed well.) Anyways, to clear things up, your right Howland doesn’t exactly have a “system.” (Besides the pick and roll, but who doesn’t use that.) I do retract that “system” statement back, but I guess I meant that Howland didn’t use Russel Westbrook to his full potential.

Well to add on to details, Westbrook isn’t a shooting pg, a scoring one. Its true, currently in the NBA, Russel feels like a combo guard: not the ideal height for a shooting guard, and not an ideal passer for a pg. Within 32 mins, he had 5.3 assist, but 3.3 resulting in turnovers. To get even futher, 58% of his shots were jumpshots, which resulted in 36% actually being made. Whereas close range shots(getting an assist from somebody or not), 34% of his shos were close range shots, which resulted in a 42%.Within those 32 mins also, he shot a total of 39 percent from the field. So while scoring 15.3 ppg is great, he needs to polish up that 39%.

As for the #4 pick argument, it goes both ways. Remember that in most mock drafts, they had Russel Westbrook landing somewhere between #7- 15. #7 only because it was an idea that Russel stays in LA, which would/ could land him in the hands in LA if Eric Gordon( Indianna) falls into NYKnicks hands(#6). The reason Russel was taken at #4 was because of tryouts, not his individual season at UCLA. (Probably the same reason why Tyreke Evan was taken at #4 this year.) Remember that everybody had Rubio at #2, until Rubio pissed everybody off. Tyreke showed everybody( or to be exact Kings) during workouts that he is explosive, and so it could be a reason why he was chosen over Johnny Flynn. Maybe even Jrue Holiday falls into this category? Individual stats alone, Holiday is not a 17th pick (afterall if it were up to individual stats alone, Tyler Hans. could be drafted #2.) But Jrue has talent, not polished yet, and I believe that he could have done better.

As for a "breakthrough season, from 3.4- 12.7ppg, yes, but not exactly #4 pick material. I’m just saying that Russel was selected where he was at mostly because of his workout with OKC.

I think that actually taking a shot at my team( Clippers) was defintiley a very cheap shot. Hell, taking an attack to my intelligence is probably worse becasue you don’t really know me. So please stop assuming things when you say you doubted I aced my two English classes, it really doesn’t help your statments.

As for actually not watching a game, how else would I actually know and play the sport?

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 4, 2009 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Btw I am a fan of Ben Howland

he turned UCLA basketball around.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 4, 2009 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jack, you earned the shots you were given.

And actually, you were let off pretty light.

Now that I’ve finished with that, I suggest you re-group and start over again. You’re new here, and new blood is welcome. My suggestion for what it’s worth is to take a little more time to think things through, and if you’ve got facts to support your thesis then throw them in. As a person who is probably the most guilty of premature clickulation, I know it doesn’t always work and sometimes you hit post before you really want to. Anyway, all that said, welcome to the BN. You have my sympathies being a Clipper rooter. I understand completely, because I’m a Rays fan, and until last year it was a very difficult burden to carry.

by Fox 71 on Jul 4, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I think your "comment'' of writing like a Clipper fan is quite disturbing.

Shouldnt throw something like that out.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 5, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand by my comments on your writing style.

You earned the shot. The Clippers may be your favorite team, but they aren’t that good. You may be a fan of your writing style, but I think it compares quite favorably to the Clippers’ style of basketball.

You may not be a fan of my writing style. You would not be the first person to line up in that camp.

by Fox 71 on Jul 5, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not sure if that was what you meant:

“Frankly, you write like a Clipper fan, which makes me doubt that you aced your first two English classes.”

That’s like saying everybody that goes for “rays” or whatever the team you root for sucks at writing JUST because of they’re a fan of that specific team. Never stated I was a fan of my own writing, as I know I am in need of improvements, but what shocks me is the stereotype that comment sounded like. Unintentional or not, that comment made you sound like an ahole. Thats EXACTLY like saying most Laker fans are dumbasses that know jackshit about basketball, which makes it more intresting, because I can actually PROVE it more than you proving that ALL Clippers fan can’t write at all.

I dont want to get into an argument of whos writing is better, cause quite frankly, I dont give a shit. It’s online in a blog, making a comment on another persons blog. I don’t feel a need to argue with someone online over nothing.

But I DO hope you apologize for your CLIPPERS writers remark. IF, however, you meant that my writing is poor, thats fine, (BUT the way you wrote that sentence however seems to be a stereotype to ALL Clippers fans.)

Anyways, now that we have that in check, nice to meet you too FOX 71.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And after that little comment, I once again stand on my comment about your writing style

I shouldn’t have to explain this, but apparently it’s necessary. The Clippers’ record for the past ten years is 306-514, for a winning percentage of .373. That’s not very good. I haven’t bothered to check whether that’s the worst ten year record in the league, but it doesn’t need to be. It’s just not a very good record. I started off by trying to be a little sarcastic and a little bit funny (although that obviously failed) by comparing your writing style to that of your favorite team, which, as noted, isn’t very good.

Then you got a bit irate, and in my opinion your ability to communicate slipped, which confirmed my judgment that your writing style was on a par with your favorite team. Then you got more irate, and my opinion was solidified.

You are to be commended for your loyalty to your team. I hope for the sake of your nervous systen and for that of all Clipper fans that they reverse their fortunes and become a powerhouse in the league. Stranger things have happened. I was a fan of the Rays when their only hope was to not finish last, so I know the elation that can come to pass when a perennial loser actually wins something.

My opinion remains, however, that your writing style needs improvement. That’s just my opinion, formed over three decades of making a living by writing. Not everyone will agree, I’m sure.

by Fox 71 on Jul 7, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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