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List FAIL: ESPN's Aaron Schatz

Jason King is not the only writer from the traditional media (or the new media) who is cobbling together stupid lists during the long off season of football and basketball. Guess the summer months when everyone is bored out of their minds (baseball doesn't cut it for everyone) writers are under pressure to produce content which results in laughable lists penning Just$C* as a "tradition rich" hoops program. Thankfully for Jason as mentioned at the beginning he is not the only one coming up with joke lists this summer.

WWL's Aaron Schatz tried to come up with a list of "25 most over-rated" players in the NFL from this past decade. Here is how the list went from 10 to 9 (which is posted in an Atlanta Falcons message board):

10. DeAngelo Hall
9. Dante Hall
8. Stephen Alexander
7. Ty Law
6. Reggie Bush
5. Adam Vinatieri
4. Jamal Lewis
3. Chris Chambers
2. Michael Vick

And the number 1 guy in Aaron's "list". A familiar name for all of us:

1. DeShaun Foster: Foster is the platonic ideal of a boom-and-bust running back, who breaks one or two highlight runs a game and then spends the rest of the time leaving his unfortunate quarterback in second-and-9 after second-and-9. Once a year he had a huge game against the Atlanta Falcons, and convince everybody he was a good NFL starter for another 12 months. According to Football Outsiders numbers, he was below replacement level in four out of six seasons. He only managed 4.3 yards per carry (average for running backs) in two seasons, and had no year with more than three rushing touchdowns. In 2007, Foster (3.5 yards per carry) had 100 more carries than DeAngelo Williams (5.0 yards per carry). Good luck explaining that one.

Huh? Riddle me this. How can Foster be the most over-rated player in the NFL from last 10 years considering he was not a top-10 pick? Wait a minute. He was not even a top-20 pick. Oh wait. What's that? Apparently he wasn't drafted in the entire first round. Foster if you can remember was drafted in the second round, after his college career ended abruptly over allegations over driving an SUV. Not only that he also had to battle through a number of injuries. Still he did what he could and considering where he was drafted did pretty well with the Carolina Panthers.

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Meanwhile, somehow Reggie Bush is well bellow Foster. Unlike Foster, Bush never had to suffer the consequences of alleged extra benefits (in Bush's cases it involved hundreds of thousands of dollars (alleged) extra benefits going to his family members which would be illegal under NCAA rules), and rode into NBA with LeBron James like hype without producing anything close to match it.

Of course, the names glaringly missing from that list include players such as Alex Smith (I say that as a Niners fan), Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Matt Leinart, and to be fair Cade McNown (my favorite Bruin QB of all time).

So the question before publishing this kind of garbage list on a major national network such as ESPN, does it go through some kind of editorial process exercising common sense knowledge? I get it. It's a slow time. So one of the main reasons to write up list pieces like this is to kick up some dirt and get a conversation going. But does that really mean people can get away with writing something that is so dumb?

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Any list that doesn't include Ryan Leaf

is simply not credible

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jul 11, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

The list says it goes back to the year 2000

which is the only reason I am assuming Ryan Leaf (’98) is not on this list, as well as a few of the other omissions that Nestor mentioned.

by godblesstyus95 on Jul 11, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

"But does that really mean people can get away with writing something that is so dumb?"

In a word: Yes

In more words: As you alluded to, lists are the ultimate filler piece. You don’t need to do any real research, you can write off the top of your head, and because it’s purely subjective, there’s no need to be actually be correct. In fact, if I ever start up with my blog again, I’ll probably begin with a few lists just to shake the rust off. Because even in my current brain dead state, I can churn those out with ease; and like you mentioned, they are sure fire conversation starters.

As for Foster being #1 on this list, my only guess is that the author must play a lot of Fantasy Football and was burned by DeShaun one season; and this is his chance at payback.

by insomniacslounge on Jul 11, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Another example of why the MSM is swirling around the bottom of the commode

This piece illustrates the fact that you don’t have to be intelligent or be a good researcher or be a good writer to get a column published. All you need to be is hired and to be up against a deadline. This list is the ultimate fluff list. All he has to have is a list of draft choices, and he can look at them and list anyone he hasn’t heard of or guys like bu$h.

by Fox 71 on Jul 11, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't see how Bush is not #1

Has anybody entered the NFL with more hype? And, I’m not just talking about recent memory. I mean period. I don’t think so. Meanwhile he has only managed a pedestrian performance in the NFL.

Furthermore, I find it laughable that when ESPN feels the need to run Bush highlights it might be one big play in a game in which he did little else. I remember last season they used a clip of a run up the middle with the narrator saying something like, “and they say Reggie Bush is not tough; that he won’t run it up the middle.” And yet, it was at best a two yard run and only one hand off out of many.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 11, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Reggie...

BU$T!

They love to say “the jury is still out” on Reggie BU$T, but I think it is safe to say that he is a bust. What is he going on 3 years without paying-out? Even if he turns it around and becomes a mediocre player, he still has 3 years of jack-squat.

Seriously, I hate this pr*&ck, really I do. The good part about all this “failing to pan-out” is the commercials featuring him are dying down and hopefully will disappear after this season.

Troy will fall.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jul 12, 2009 2:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Great Nickname

From here on out he will always be Reggie Bust to me.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 13, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

you all are being too kind to Ballroom Matt

Remember how Ballroom Matt Lienert was supposed to save the Cardinals? He should be number 2 to Reggie Kardashian at number 1.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jul 12, 2009 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed:

Total pass on Matt “we still think we’re better than them” Lineart.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 12, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a bitter fantasy owner than an actual journalist.

"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."

by S Jay Bruin on Jul 12, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Not that I agree with Schatz's list but...

It looks like the idea here is to point out guys who have gotten undue reps after repeatedly proving themselves to be below the NFL average. This is not a list of “biggest busts.”

by LVBruin on Jul 12, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow

This list is ridiculous? Half the people on there I disagree about and please, no leinfart? WOW!

by uclafan11 on Jul 13, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

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