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Venegas supporter: Open letter to Guerrero & Toth

A copy of my email to them both today. I was directed to a couple forums by a Bruin teammate and thought it would be worth sharing the point of view of a former athlete who has seen the ups and downs first hand, including this past season while training with Art & the throwers for the USA Track & Field Masters Div:

Gentlemen,

As a member of the 1987 & 1988 Championship teams (Decathlon/Javelin) I have to express my strong disagreement with the decision to not renew the contract for Art Venegas.  Many of us from that "golden era" have stayed in direct touch with the program specifically because we like what both Art and Anthony Curran have been doing.  We also know what causes the highs and lows.  I am disappointed that the larger picture was not the focus when it comes to the hundreds of titles and honors won by the men and women (especially throwers) during Art's time with UCLA...including the past decade.  One must realize that while we athletes always felt as part of a team, track is not truly a team sport, rather individual efforts at individual moments.  More importantly, the "head" coach affects that "team" less than any other sport, since he plays little direct role in any training/competing in the events he does not cover. The coaches of each discipline are nearly 100% responsible for their athlete's preparation, and indirectly, their recruitment.  When I was here, I can assure you Bob Larson had ZERO input to any of the sprint corp, jumps, hurdles or throws.  Nor did he effect recruiting for any.  Incoming athletes are interested in the overall program only after their interest of their specific coach has been addressed.  Athletes came to UCLA Track specifically for Art Venegas, Anthony Curran, John Smith, Bobby Kersee.....and soon we might have said the same for a new sprint coach.  Nobody was better at preaching the responsibility of being a Bruin than Art.....nobody inspired the parents of high schoolers more, and nobody bled Bruin Blue more.  I am a better man/father/businessman because of him and I've seen those who came after me do the same.  I am afraid the program may be set back 3-5 years  considering the potential loss of support from the deep pocketed donors that were on board due to Art, the athletes that may not return, and future recruits that may be lost.  If this is the case, it will be some time before it begins to rebuild. Keep in mind that the top high school athletes bring more of the same, and that momentum was ramping up next year and beyond.  Now it might be lost.

I will grant you these two issues the Athletic Dept is forced to overcome, and puts UCLA at a disadvantage:
- As a non-revenue generating sport, the budget is not there to bring in high grade asst coaches (though you have/had two of the best with Curran & Venegas)
- The academic requirements are strong and no lines are crossed like the other top programs are doing, which gives me pride nonetheless.

You can't be criticized for having both of these hold the program back a little, nor can you place them on the shoulders of a great Bruin like Art Venegas.

I can assure you those of us still on the track when this news became known were not happy and quite surprised, especially considering what the future held.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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Good stuff

I like hearing opinions like this, especially from a former athlete. You make some good points and I’m interested in hearing what the Morgan Center has to say. If you get a response, please ask the sender if it would be okay to post the response. If he allows it, I’d be very interested in reading it.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jul 6, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for sharing Badcarp

Please stick around and voice your opinion on other Bruin topics. You will find a fine community of ardent Bruin loyalists and many well thought out opinions on this board.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 6, 2009 10:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to move on...

Venegas, by 95% of accounts, was a great guy, a great Bruin and a world-class assistant coach. (Quite similar to KD in many ways). His record as head coach, however, is not satisfactory by UCLA standards in any sport, let alone one that has contributed 13 NCAA titles and had not lost to USC in the dual meet since 1977 (we’ve now lost to them 2 of the past 3 years!! ). I love what he’s done with the throwers and appreciate his efforts greatly, but what’s done is done and it’s time to move on.

Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...

by rich87 on Jul 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Reply from Glenn Toth

Since it was requested above, Glenn Toth replied to my email above and thanked me for my “candor and communication.” I responded and cc’d Dan Guerrero, and since there was no reply as yet I don’t have permission to paste it here. It was the standard response…tough decision…need to get back in the team title hunt….head coach is responsible for the entire team’s performance….stay with us, we’ll hire an excellent coach…..

My reply:
Thank you for the reply Glenn. I agree it must return to those ranks and I don’t accept mediocrity at UCLA, but I can’t completely agree with your head coach comments. This isn’t basketball for example, where the head coach is involved with every aspect of every play/practice and manages the entire game. If you add a few words to the sentence you wrote, you’ll see what I mean: “Ultimately, it is the head coach who is responsible for the performance of the sprinters he does not train.” Thus, if an amazing new head coach comes in and you give only enough funds to hire a mediocre hurdle coach and the hurdlers turn in poor performances, should the head coach lose is job? Conversely, did Bob Larson’s actions result in the multitude of sprinting championships & Olympic medals by the athletes that John Smith recruited and trained? Track & Field is an odd “team” sport in that way.

I’ll stay with you, but it’s naive to think that a new head coach will make everything better unless the assistants are equally as great. I was on the track during practice this season many times and it only took me a week to sense the sprinters did not respect or fear (fear of disappointment) Tony Veney. Without that, these athletes will not thrive. Except for Art & Curran, we have not had that in a long time, and that put Art in what I think was an unfair position.

by BadCarp on Jul 9, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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