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Fall Scrimmage Notes 8-22-2009

Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N

I'm no football analysis expert, but for whatever it's worth, here are my thoughts on the scrimmage today. Forgive me if things are a little rough, but I wanted to get this posted ASAP.

Player of the Night- Brian Price. Every time he was on the field, he was making plays. He had a sack, a couple tackles for losses, and a pressure that caused an interception. He is going to be scary this year. I'm curious if he would have made as many plays with Kai Maiava in there, but Maiava sat this scrimmage out.

Pleasant Surprise of the Night - Damien Thigpen. He looked absolutely brilliant every time he touched the ball. He hits the line sooo fast and squeezes through the tiniest holes. He seemed to pass through the line like a ghost. Even after he got hit he was fighting for yards and always falling forward. He was fantastic on returns too, getting a huge kickoff return and a punt return. If I'm coach, I make him the starter tomorrow, even if he couldn't block a 120lb pregnant mother on a blitz. He's too dangerous to keep off the field.

Letdown of the Night - Carroll and Presley two of our biggest name freshmen, both had a tough night. They had opportunities, but couldn't really do anything with them.

Reality Check - Our offensive line still needs LOTS of work, especially in pass protection. Our run blocking was ok against the 2nd team, but really whenever Price was in, we couldn't go anywhere. We still didn't get to see Maiava (I'm getting worried about his tendency for injuries)[Edit- the announcer said Maiava wasn't playing, but LAT reports he was]. On the plus side, our freshmen didn't look like weak links out there although they were still getting beat at times.

Interesting Highlight - On one play Knox lowered his shoulder and delivered a pretty big blow to Viney, although Viney still took him down. A few series later Viney came back with vengance and delivered a big hit on Knox. It's fun to watch those little (literally they are both really small!) rivalries on the field.  

Funniest Moment- Demitrius Papadakis had a couple good runs. After his second good run, someone in the stands starting yelling, "Is Petros here? Your little brother is better than you! And he doesn't talk as much either!" (maybe not those exact words but close) I laughed and a lot of people around me did too.

The Team as a Whole - everyone looked a little tired out there today. The energy level didn't seem real high considering it was a scrimmage in front of thousands of fans. I know it's hard to get fired up for a scrimmage, but I would have liked to see a little more hustle. Everyone seemed kinda lackadaisical between plays. Multiple big returns against our coverage teams tells me that either we weren't hustling or we need to get some new guys on punt and kickoff coverage. The defense also seemed to slow down a few times before the play was over. On the Franklin touchdown, for a sec it looked like the defense thought he was stopped, and I think that brief hesitation allowed Franklin to break it. Then again there were a few times when practically the whole defense was in on a tackle. 

Star-divide

Position by Position - keep in mind that I was trying to get this out in a hurry, so none of my stats are confirmed. I'm going only off my notes, which I think might be incomplete in some areas. Also, a lot of these guys were going against 2nd and 3rd string defense which can make them look better than they are.

QB's 

Prince wasn't doing so hot against the first team. Most of the time it wasn't his fault, but then again he wasn't always making the throws he needed to make when he had the chance. Overall not a great night for Prince. My ROUGH stats ( I was taking some notes) 9-19 for 83 yds and a pic and a rushing touchdown (arguably, we had a defender that might have been able to stop him). He would have made 50% completions but he had an easy one dropped by Carroll.

Brehaut - He looked ok, but he wasn't playing much if at all against the first defense. He made a real nice throw on an out pattern. Rough stats - 3-6 with a drop by Presley. Looking at my notes, he didn't get a whole lot of time out there.

Craft - He looked ok as well. He was running around a lot and trying to make plays with his feet. I have him 0-1 with an 8 yard run and a zero yard run. That sounds wrong to me, but that's what my notes say... I'm sure we'll have something better shortly.

Crissman - He helped himself today. His first pass was a touchdwon to Joseph Fauria who is not eligible to play this season. He showed great pocket presence and was able to move away from the rush well. His second pass was almost a touchdown as well. Presley probably could have had it. It was perfectly thrown but coverage was tight. I didn't write down how many yards the touchdown was but it was a lot. Maybe 40-50 yds? His stats - 1-3 with a TD. He also got sacked once when the pocket completely collapsed on him.

Landers - Landers showed good arm strength and confidence. He connected with Jerry Rice on one long play when PI was called. I couldn't tell if Rice made the catch for sure, but it looked like he did. I'm showing 2-2 for 14 yds not counting the long PI play against Rice. I think he had another long one that was incomplete, but I'm not showing here... hmm.

Running Backs

Ramirez - He didn't get in too much and didn't do much when he did. At this point, I'm a little worried that he is our starter. I'm showing 2 rushes for -3 yards.

Coleman - He also didn't do much. I can't say it was his fault though. He was almost always getting hit before he ever got out of the backfield. This helps confirm for me that we should be using someone like Franklin or Thigpen who is extremely quick and can change directions and cut back in a hurry, so when those guys slip through line we have a chance to get by them. On one goaline situation they handed to coleman twice and he get zero yards both times. He looks big out there and fairly quick too, but not quite like Franklin, Thigpen, Knox. I'm showing 4 rushes for -1 yards and a 10 yard reception.

Franklin - He had a fantastic night out there. His 60 yard touchdown run was probably the best single offensive play of the game. It looked like he was going to get stuffed in the backfield on the left side, but then he cut back and then just outran everybody to the far side line and took it in for 6. He looked very fast all night, and was probably tied for Thigpen as the most explosive back out there today. I have him at 6 carries for 100 yards and a wopping 16.6 yards a carry! His only negative on the night was a dropped ball.

Knox- He was solid. He going forward every time and usually making good yards. He had a nice combination of tough running, speed and agility. He was overshadowed by Franklin and Thigpen though. I have him at 9 carries for 33 yards. He almost made 4 yards a carry.

Thigpen - I'll admit it. I really like this kid. He can play. I don't know if he's better than Franklin but he's certainly right there. He was squeezing through the tiniest holes and was hitting the line very, very fast. On one play in particular where he picked up 9 yards it was like he warped forward. I can't explain it. It was like he just appeared 9 yards down the field. This kid is rarely going to get caught for a loss. He also had two absolutely amazing returns. His speed is incredible, and I nominated him  My Pleasant Surprise of the evening. He had 7 carries for 42 yards. I didn't record his return yardage, but he got one TD on a punt return and a kick off return to the defense's 35 yard line where I think the whole return team missed him once or twice before they finally brought him down.

Fullbacks - Moline made a couple good catches out of the backfield and made some good blocks. Theriot had a great catch too and a great lead block for Prince on Prince's touchdown run. Allmond looked HUGE.

Overall, I'd love to see either Franklin or Thigpen spending a lot of time running the ball this year. I know the coaches want someone that can block, but I don't know how you leave weapons like those two off the field.

Receivers-

I'll just keep this brief. The receivers didn't do a whole lot tonight. They were dropping some balls and missing some catches that they might have been able to get. Fauria, Chandler and Rice made the best catches today and they probably won't even see any time on the field this year. Carroll dropped a pass that could have gone for big yardage. It was an underneath throw and the linebackers were playing off too much. He might have been able to sprint by them and up the side line. I have a feeling he was already looking for where he was going to run to and forgot to focus on the ball (typical freshman mistake!).


Defense

Defensive Line - Brian Price was a force of nature. Aside from him the dline did ok at all levels, especially considering how much depth we are lacking there. It looked like the middle was a weak spot when Price wasn't in there though. The freshmen played well out there. Keenan Grahm, Ian Davis, and especially Iuta Tepa did really well.

Linebackers - The first team was smothering. Bosworth looked good out there. One play he made a great tackle on Ramirez to hold him to one yard, and then on the very next play he knocked down a throw intended for Logan Paulsen (I think it was). Out of the back ups, Sean Westgate was all over the place. Sloan made some decent plays too and had a nice goal line stop. I thought I saw Papadakis on defense too? Does anyone know if he is going both ways at linebacker and running back?

Secondary- We are DEEP in the secondary. Viney is going to be a good replacement for Verner next year. My only complaint here was the fact that we had several PIs called on this group. I didn't catch the names on who was causing them. Moore had a nice pic I believe, but I don't recall who got the initial pic-6.

Special Teams - While Thigpen stole the show on the returns we got to see some other guys as well. Courtney Viney returned one for a touchdown ( I want to say a punt?). Marvray was lining up on the first team as a returner, but he looked like the weakest out of the group. He muffed a punt but was able to pick it up and keep running. He looked pretty quick, but not Thigpen or Viney quick.

Jeff Locke was on FIRE tonight. He had one punt for over 60 yards. Another one was a 46 yarder that went out of bounds at the 1 yard line. His punts were all spirals with huge hang time. He is going to be a weapon. Also, we don't need to worry about Forbath leaving after this season. Locke nailed a 53 yard kick and didn't miss one field goal tonight. When you have so many great players in your kicking bunch you've got to wonder how much the long snapper, Yount is contributing to that. He is a pre season all american and he deserves it. Look at the performances of Perez, Forbath and now Locke over the past few seasons.

Our coverage teams were BAD tonight. They better practice coverage more before the San Diego State game or we're in trouble.

It was a fun night and it was great to see all the players out there signing autographs after the game. Only two weeks left till game time!!! Go Bruins!!!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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I must have been sitting near you

The guy who yelled “your brother is better than you” was about 15 rows behind me. Petros was there on the field. Weasel.

Conversely, it was great to see Jerry Rice Senior there! :)

by uclafan11 on Aug 22, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Was hoping Petros would sport a UCLA jersey

But I suppose you can’t make concessions like that when you’re a ladies’ man

petros

sorry to do that to everyone

by insomniacslounge on Aug 23, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on now...

He does a decent job covering UCLA football I think. I know he’s USC homer (for good reason), but he seems to deal with us pretty fairly when I hear him at least.

by captainqtp on Aug 23, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY!

He sounds like the Aflac Duck and it drives me crazy. I have to turn him down.

by uclafan11 on Aug 23, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet

you still listen to him! So you agree that what he says is fair. You might also agree that he’s pretty funny at times. Okay, I guess that’s just me…

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Aug 23, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a difference of opinion for us

He just bugs me. Sure, he says something funny now and then. I was saying I turn him down so I try not to listen but if he is the announcer, I’ll suck it up. I just prefer when its someone else. I go to all the home games and some road so I get spared a lot. :)

GO BRUINS!!!

by uclafan11 on Aug 24, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could hear that guy

very well, I think he was a couple rows above me. I was to the right of the band.

by BruinFanBaby on Aug 23, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was right

behind the band. I think the guy yelling at Petros was to my right.

by captainqtp on Aug 22, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I was in the section just to your right. :)

by uclafan11 on Aug 23, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to do a scrimmage recap

but you, along with ucla84, have it pretty much covered. You two have done a great job analyzing most of what went on so instead I’ll do a post this week evaluating each unit, not just on the scrimmage, but where they stand after training camp. Great job guys.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Aug 23, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I wanted to help out since I haven’t been able to go to practice. I enjoy this ;)

by captainqtp on Aug 23, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great writeup

Awesome job, as usual. Couple additions – I thought Knox on returns was great. Also, couldn’t have been more impressed by Locke – both punts and kicks (other than kickoffs). Thank god our MVP won’t be the punter this year, but thinking it will still be a big position this year.

by bruin_nerd on Aug 23, 2009 12:38 AM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

sorry

somehow missed your Locke note – great summary.

by bruin_nerd on Aug 23, 2009 12:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Nice recap
Also, we don’t need to worry about Forbath leaving after this season.

Isn’t he a junior?

by SuperBruinMan on Aug 23, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

You’re right… It seems like he’s been on the team for a long time. I just assumed he was a senior.

by captainqtp on Aug 23, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to the scrimmage last night as well...

It was a great turnout and I sat directly at the 50 yard line, which was to the marching band and captain’s left and, also, probably the greatest view I’ll get to watch all season (darn corner student section). I met my favorite player in ATV who signed my #1 jersey and some of the other players, and I even managed to shake hands with Jerry Rice Sr. All in all, it was a great time and now I can’t wait until I make it to my first game, which would be the 2nd home game (Kansas St.?) as I will be in Australia during the SDSU game (I have not yet decided if it’s a good tradeoff).

Anyways, some of my thoughts:

-Brian Price is a beast. I felt that he was involved in every single play when he was on the field, whether is was a tackle in the backfield or putting pressure on the qb when Rahim Moore got his pick six. If I do recall, I also believe he tipped a pass at the line of scrimmage. Nonetheless, he was definitely a presence on the field.

-I think the announcer said that Jonathan Franklin ran six carries for 99 yards. He had a play of ten yards which would have easily gone the distance if not for a tackle from behind by Aaron Hester. This dude is quick and he impressed me.

-You can definitely notice the difference in speed from last year to this year. I remember three deep balls thrown: 1 to Jerry Rice, which the officials ruled not caught but there was pass interference; 1 to Morrell Presley in which he dropped; and I forgot the last one but the play was doneover due to offsetting penalties.

-Speaking of speed, like qtp, I really like Damien Thigpen. He’s was pretty much a blur returning punts and it was impressive watching him shimmy through the big linemen. He was a good get this past recruiting season.

-I don’t know what to make of our offensive line play. I felt that it was inconsistent the whole night. For every good run blocking or pass protecting play, I felt there was also a bad one. I wish I could say this about them going against the 1st team defense, but it also happened when the projected starters were going against the 2nd team. It’s definitely tough to be starting 4 new guys on the line, but it’ll also be fun to watch them develop.

All in all, I feel that this season will have its ups and downs considering the growing pains, especially on offense. Win or lose, I’m making it to every home game except for the first, which I plan on making up by taking the trip up to Palo Alto.

by TrueBlueAndGold on Aug 23, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

keep in mind

that while Frnklin, knox, and Thigpen are GREAT athletes they did NOT go against our first team D. I believe that our first D is one of the best in the Pac-10 if not the country, so lets not get too worried about Ramirez and Colemans play last night, the Bruins will be ready to push back opposing defenses this year.
   -Remember we don’t face Price, or a linebacking corp this talented IMHO. Our line is young and they will have they’re ups and downs, but like Wayne Cook said our fresmen “reminds him of Jon Ogden”… that would be awesome if they were to develop like Ogden! here’s to coach Palcic getting a group of 10 guys who can go in there and play at a D-1 level. 10 men because i want the backups to push our first team guys to make them better, also if an injury does happen they need to fill in with a minimum drop-off.
   This coming from a guy who loves football, played it my whole life, thats what i see, Great post!

G.Granillo

by g.granillo on Aug 23, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh

That’s kind of self promotion we believe in here at BN. Please keep it coming!

by Nestor on Aug 23, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

You are going to get in trouble if you keep hanging around here? Isn’t this your wife’s B’day?!!

by Nestor on Aug 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha...I know...I'm living dangerously

She’s on the phone w/ her mom right now, so that should take awhile.

by insomniacslounge on Aug 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wanted to say

that, as much as I appreciate your photos, I appreciate your captions as much. Informative, insightful, and often humorous. Of pancakes, Sheldon’s realization that something was wrong, and perfect punts that go out on the 1 yard line.

Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to put these slide shows together.

by Bruinut on Aug 24, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic

What a great way to spend my lunchtime. You really have a gift for capturing the details of the action. Normally, I go through these kind of slide shows relatively quickly, mostly because my knowledge of the intricacies of football is not that advanced even though I’m a huge fan and watch every game. I agree with Bruinut that your captions really help me understand what’s happening and make me a more informed fan. Thank you.

by truebluebruin on Aug 24, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

great write up Cap'n!

Some of your notes are very sobering considering all the recent news of the greatness on the field. It will be hard to temper expectations, since I begin every year thinking this is going to be the year. (OK, admittedly not recently and that is why Dorrell had to go) Reading your notes remind me that is still a team under construction.

As for UCLAFAN’s comment:
 

I must have been sitting near you

This just underscores how cool it would be to have BN Tshirts to wear to Bruin Athletic events. BN logo on the front. User name across the shoulders and the number 12 on the back. Then when we spot each other at games we can shake hands and thank people personally (like the greeks) for all their hard work on this board and for some very insightful comments.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that yesterday

like “I wonder if the person to my right or left is someone I know from BN?” I am sure many of us have crossed paths and we don’t even know it!

by uclafan11 on Aug 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

T-shirts

Hey, I’d be a football nerd and wear one too! Great idea.

by BruinAl on Aug 23, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I Did See A BN T-shirt There

Did someone have a prototype shirt from when they were being considered a while ago?

Also, if anyone has the ear of someone in the dept.—PLEASE suggest they open the HOF on weekends when there’s a sports event happening on campus, there was a great turnout for the scrimmage and a lot of people would have enjoyed going through the Hall. This would apply to basketball season too.

by bru79 on Aug 23, 2009 11:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The HOF is open prior to basketball games

It’s a pregame ritual for me and the boy. Check out some trophies…..and hit the bathroom right before the game. :)

by insomniacslounge on Aug 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick Comments

Trueblue – I’m showing the announcer shorted Franklin 1 yard and when that one yard is the difference between 2 and three digit rushing numbers, well, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Granillo – I’m just worried Ramirez and Coleman won’t be able to make people miss when penetration gets into the backfield. Also, at one point, Franklin had a bunch of big runs in a row that got us close the goal line, and then they put Coleman in against the same guys on defense and he got stuffed twice when it looked he could have broke one of them off to the right. Granted goal line is a different animal, but Franklin was making it happen and Coleman wasn’t.

Mexi, Bruinai, bru79 – you could always try to make a jersey (I almost typed Jerzy as in Siewierski, boy do I have UCLA football on the brain) here….

by captainqtp on Aug 23, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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