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Some Morning Thoughts and Questions About the Victory

Nothing like the morning glow of a great football victory, which gives you confidence and peace of mind the rest of the week, and makes it much more pleasant to watch the remaining weekend of games. Some key plays (in my mind) from yesterday's win that stick:

1. The Milton Knox play. His beautiful, MJD-esque move on 3rd and 10 that saved our only touchdown drive and made up for a missed block by Hasiak. Knox followed that up with another first down run, and is looking more and more like a major playmaker.

2. The goal line stand. Here's where I have some criticism. Our stop on 4th down was superb -- but I would've taken a timeout to make sure my two best DTs (by far) were in the game for that play. In 1997, Bob Toledo called a 4th down goal line running play for Jermaine Freakin Lewis at WSU because Skip Hicks was "tired." We had one timeout remaining, and that decision cost us a trip to the Rose Bowl that year. We know what happened to SC against Texas.

Maybe someone can tell me why it would've been wrong to use a timeout there, but otherwise I think nothing's more important than having your best players in for a game-deciding play. Just a thought.

3. What gave me the most hope going into yesterday's game was Jonothan Crompton. A lot is said about the balanced nature of football, but I can't get over the fact that a bad QB is almost insurmountable. For the second year in a row Crompton made his vaunted, humongous O-line look bad (at least to me). It seems that any underdog has a chance against a sub-par QB, no matter how the rest of the team matches up. (See 13-9, and almost any UCLA loss since 1998, excepting one fluky year from Drew Olson.)

4. Chuck Bullough. A very sound start from him -- after that disastrous first quarter last week. For every possession since, our defense has looked very...coordinated, with no blown plays and few schematic gaps. Then again, we're yet to face a real QB. But still promising.

5. Lane Kiffin. He looked very, very nervous on that sideline.

6. I've never in my life seen an illegal formation penalty on a field goal, an immediate safety call when the ball has obviously crossed the goal-line, or a delay-of-game penalty that came before the clock expired. Whatever.

***Forgot add, number 7: 

I think I'm ready to see Thigpen or an actual playmaker return the kicks. Austin has never impressed me as a returner -- he's extremely hesitant on kick-offs, and makes poor decisions on punts. He has some good ones now and then, but for a senior he isn't very wise, and he certainly doesn't have gamebreaking speed.

I know it's tough replacing a senior, but personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Thigpen back there (or Carroll?).

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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I agree with the Crompton is horrible thought. When you do it to him two years in a row, it starts to look like a pattern. Lindley didn’t look good against us either after the 1st Q against SDSU. Our cover guys are really good. When all your options are burried in coverage, and you are getting consistent pressure from the defensive line, it’s hard to make the right choices.

Also, we may not see a decent QB until we play against Oregon (and Masoli was horrible against Boise St… didn’t see Purdue, but they put up some points). I think we’ll know better then whether or not we have a stifling pass defense.

by captainqtp on Sep 13, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not a safety?

The refs tried to steal the game for the good old southern boys. They made so many bad calls that it was obvious the game was in the fix. Would someone please tell me why there was no safety called on the Vols when the Vol player muffed the kick on about the 10 yard line then retrieved it in the end zone, attempted to run it out of the end zone, was tackled in the end zone for an apparent safety—then no safety is called by the refs and the Vols end up with the ball on the 20 as a touchback? WTF!!!

by bruin75 on Sep 13, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering about that too,

I was in a loud bar so I couldn’t hear any explanation for that.

by layout on Sep 13, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The returner

needs to gain possession and then go into the end zone where tackled for a safety. A muffed punt, as it was, is not a safety because possession was never gained. The rule doesn’t make sense to me, but that’s how a UCLA official explained it to me after the game.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 13, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been researching this

and found this:

Player B2 catches a punt in his own end zone. He attempts to advance the ball, but is tackled behind his goal line having never crossed it. Does Team A score a safety?


NCAA Football Rules:
No. Rules 8-6-1-b and 8-7. In this case, a touchback is awarded to Team B. A safety can only be scored if a team is responsible for the ball being behind its goal line when it becomes dead. By rule, responsibility for a ball being dead behind Team Bs goal line on a kicking play rests with the kicking team (A) as long as the ball crossed the goal line under the momentum it gained from the kick.

Regarding the last part about the ball crossing the goal line “under the momentum it gained from the kick,” though the UT player touched the ball, the ball crossed the goal line because of the kick. However, since the UT player touched the ball, he had to go after it, since UCLA could have recovered in the endzone for a TD.

by Telemachus on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's good info

and too bad we didn’t just wait for him at the 1 yard line. :)

by bornagainbruin on Sep 14, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding.

this game was terribly officiated. not sure about the non-safety call…maybe the rule is different in college?

also, what about the offsides call at the end (i’ve checked the replay…no one jumps and everyone is lined up perfectly fine. an absolute PHANTOM call that negated moore’s 3rd frickin’ pick)? ayers hits crompton in the shoulder with his helmet and that’s 15 yards? i was flipping out from all the bad calls….almost clawed my eyes out.

by hicalliber on Sep 13, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goalline Stand

Actually I thought the key to the whole stand was that they did substitute and that the subs were able to play very well. By taking out Price, he was able to be rested up for the ensuing posession and was very disruptive (as we saw). I think it was a huge gamble of a call by the coaches, but it really paid off in the end.

by karaethon on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Time out

I thought we should taken the timeout after Tenn ran the ball on second down (2nd down run was 3 yards to the 4). We were looking really gassed and I think the extra rest would have more than offset the added time for the offense to figure out their play.

I also think we should have called a timeout in the first quarter after our fumble. Too many times defenses get burned big on the first play after the offense turns it over. Obviously, you can’t burn a timeout each time the offense turns the ball over, but it was deep in our territory, we still had all three timeout remaining, AND it was in the first half. I think an extra two minutes or so would have allowed our D to get a little more mentally prepared for the Vol’s first play.

by bornagainbruin on Sep 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Safety

Thanks for the explanation Rye. That’s what makes it more egregious. The return man muffed the punt, regained possession and made an effort to run out of the end zone and was tackled for the safety. Even the TV announcer thought it was a safety. I agree with Tommy Prothro when he said in 1965 he would never bring his teams to the South again.

by bruin75 on Sep 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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