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I don't think anyone can say anything about the Pac-10 with absolute certainty right now. Who's the best team? Who will win the conference? How many teams will go bowling? The conference looks extremely deep with UCLA, Stanford, Washington, Arizona St. and Arizona, all teams expected to be mediocre at best showing flashes of brilliance early on, but all have struggled with consistency from series to series, let alone game to game. If nothing else, the first four weeks of Pac-10 play have showed us that this conference is going to represent everything we cherish most about sport. Effort, intensity, discipline, explosiveness and above all else, unpredictability.

Player of the Week: Nick Foles, Arizona- In a contest many missed because it was on Versus, Nick Foles had himself a ball game. On the road at Oregon St., the sophomore Foles was 25-34 for 254 yards, three touchdowns and none of his passes ended up in the hands of an Oregon St. defender. Not bad for a sophomore making his first start.

Stat of the Week: 155-77- The home teams went 4-1 this week in games involving Pac-10 teams, outscoring their opponents 155-77.

Game to Watch: USC at Cal, 5:00 pm PDT, ABC- Who would think that USC's chances at winning the Pac-10 could ride on a game on October 3? If the Trojans lose, they then must go undefeated and count on Oregon to lose two Pac-10 games and Cal to lose two more. Meanwhile, the Bears will undoubtedly be ready to go after last week's humiliation

Pac-10 Power Poll

1) Oregon Ducks, 3-1 (3 first place votes)- Who would have foreseen a turnaround like this? Yeah, some people thought the Ducks would topple the Bears in Eugene, but 42-3? The defensive line, which looked awful early on this year, didn't allow Jahvid Best any room to run and put Kevin Riley on the ground time after time, while Jeremiah Masoli had the offense clicking. Pac-1 frontrunner? A visit from Washington St. shouldn't tell us much. Last Week: 4

2) USC Trojans, 3-1 (2 first place votes)- A win is a win, right? After jumping out to a quick 20-0 lead, the Trojans' offense sputtered and one again, there are legitimate concerns as to whether or not it can do enough to win the Pac-10. The defense should do a decent job slowing down the Cal offense this week, but the offense will need to move the ball with some consistency and make sure to get points in the red zone if they want to get win #4 in Berkeley. Last Week: 2

3) California Golden Bears, 3-1- Destroyed, demolished, embarrassed, whipped. All of those could be used to describe what happened to Cal at Autzen Stadium. Losing 42-3, no matter the opponent or venue, is not going to play well and doing so as a top 10 team is just shocking. The offensive line was run over, Kevin Riley looked like he did last year, Jahvid Best had nowhere to go and the defense wasn't any better. They better rebound quickly though with SC coming to Stawberry Canyon. Last Week: 1

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4) Stanford Cardinal, 3-1- The Cardinal are better than last year and everyone knew they would be, but taking control of a conference game early on and cruising to victory is no easy feat. Stanford made Jake Locker look average, while Toby Gerhart was a monster as he rushed for 200 yards. Meanwhile Chris Owusu returned his third kickoff for a touchdown and could very well made it four this weekend with UCLA visiting. Last Week: 6

5) UCLA Bruins, 3-0-  Who would have guessed that the Bruins would be the Pac-10's last undefeated team? Even the most diehard of UCLA fans didn't predict such a thing, but here we are. The Bruins had a bye week to get healthy, but that didn't apply to Kevin Prince, who is still out and won't be ready for Saturday. Can the Bruins really go on the road and beat a surging Stanford team with their backup QB? We'll find out soon enough. Last Week: 3

6) Washington Huskies, 2-2- You can't turn the ball over three times on the road and expect to win the game. The Huskies couldn't hold onto the ball, couldn't move the ball and couldn't stop Stanford from moving it. Oh yeah, they couldn't win special teams either. That's not exactly a winning formula.  Their win over USC is in the past and they'll have to be better at Notre Dame this Saturday. Last Week: 5

7) Arizona Wildcats, 3-1- Arizona hasn't had much of a problem running the football, but now they have themselves a quarterback. Nick Foles looked awfully good and if this team can add a consistent passing game to stretch the field some, this offense can be truly dynamic. The defense can't continue to give up 400+ total yards though and they'll have a bye this week to shore up that side of the ball. Last Week: 9

8) Arizona St. Sun Devils, 2-1- The Sun Devils were outplayed by Georgia last week, but came up with enough big plays to put them in a position to win it. Unfortunately for them, they had a field goal blocked, then Georgia put one through the uprights to win it. Jarrell Holman had himself a big game with two picks, one taken back for a touchdown and may need another one to hold off a visiting Oregon St. squad this week. Last Week: 8

9) Oregon St. Beavers, 2-2- The Beavers had no issues moving the ball against Arizona, totaling over 400 yards, but their pass defense bit them yet again. Oregon St.'s pass defense ranks 109th in the nation and have now allowed over 300 passing yards in consecutive games, both at home. Lucky for them, Arizona St. hasn't shown much of a passing game so they've got a shot in Tempe this week. Last Week: 7

10) Washington St. Cougars, 1-3- 27-6 is a hell of a lot better than 69-0 and that's because this year's Wazzu squad is a heck of a lot better than last year's. They played USC to a draw in quarters two and three at the Coliseum and found a new quarterback in Jeff Tuel, who looks like a real player. The freshman will have the tough task of winning at Autzen Stadium this week though. Last Week: 10

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I agree with this list except...

I would move the two AZ schools ahead of Wash.
Washington’s yards allowed per rush are abysmal.
Locker is an awesome talent, but when teams can run at will against your D it makes for a long season.
I think they have already had their moment in the sun for the season.

by Rico Bruin on Sep 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Man

we didn’t make one mistake on saturday, and we still drop two places!

by captainqtp on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

This and Every Other Poll

Is pretty much going to go up and down like crazy this year cause parity in the sport is officially IN. There’s talent everywhere. Don’t mind polls till like the 6th or 7th week when an accurate assessment of the current season can be taken. But alas, until then, our sports hungry minds and hearts will churn out all these polls, numbers, front-runners, and desires that occupy our minds cause we have nothing else to do.

by TheNewbster on Sep 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Parity

aka the spread offense

by mdjohns4 on Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone else notice

how UCLA is last in the Pac 10 in yds/game (301) and 8th in scoring (25)?

We could easily be 3-3 after Stanford, Oregon, and Cal. Then we have the next two on the road against Arizona and Oregon St.

If this team is going to double its wins from last year, the offense is going to have to get Prince back and hope he’s able to pick right up and play at a high level.

Sorry for being a buzzkill.

Someone talk about how our defense is so good the offense won’t matter that much. Please. I need some reassurance.

P.S. 37 days until basketball starts.

by mdjohns4 on Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a buzz kill

I think your points are legit. I think this Saturday is a big game for our offense. What I am really interested in finding out is whether they can keep their composure against a legit opponent (and Stanford is a legit team IMO).

If we can pull it off this weekend (which I think is a toss up game) it will put us in a good position to fight against Oregon (we played them tough last year in Eugene). I just want to think about Stanford and see what happens this Saturday. I will move on from there. But your points re. offense are valid. I hope we can find some answers this weekend.

by Nestor on Sep 28, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Don't Think Our Defense is So Good ...

that we can get by without offense, but I think our offense is better than we’ve shown. If we can just eliminate the penalties, that will go a long way to improve our total output. There are holes in Stanford’s defense, particularly the secondary, that we should be able exploit.

That said, this may well be our defense’s toughest game of the year. To win will take an all around supreme effort on both sides of the ball, but I think we’ve already shown that we are capable of such an effort.

by snorkeldorf on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with "our offense is better than we’ve shown"

Also remember CRN has put the stop on our offense to let the defense finish off the game. Once CRN feels comfortable with the O, I think we’ll see NC open up and produce some more.

by brewnz on Sep 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Offense

Yes we need Prince back to see more of the offense, but it does seem like NC hasn’t shown all his cards yet. With the extra week off, and getting everyone back will change our production numbers.

Brewnz hit it on the money, our defense has finished off games. We have had nice leads, less need to pile on tons of extra yards.

On a side note, compared to last year our OL looks incredible. Watching Craft, he has so much more time to plant and throw. hopefully he improves from the Kansas St game.

by Bruin'96 on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Power Running Game

To me, this makes the biggest difference from last year. The offensive production hasn’t been stellar, but the running game is miles ahead of where it was last year. Provided that our passing game can be ball-control oriented and focused on setting up the run, we have every opportunity to be in every game we play this year.

They key, of course, is ball security. Turnovers killed last season and they can do the same this year; I hope Craft realizes that the running game is much more proficient and he doesn’t need to force things as much….we’ll see.

by CAJason80 on Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the one hand, the offense

is capable of performing better. On the other, we’ve played three games, two of which were against decidedly bad teams and haven’t performed well offensively. So there’s not a great body of evidence that would support our optimism.

Brewnz, the SDSU game was aided by a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown. That 10 point swing probably put the game out of reach, but Prince had not played well at all in the 2nd half. To think that his bad reads and interceptions are a result of Norm Chow holding the offense back is an argument that just doesn’t hold much weight. Because turnovers are what held back the offense from putting up yards in that game, not Norm.

Bruin’96, we certainly did not have a nice lead against Kansas State until Austin’s touchdown with just under 8 minutes left in the fourth. The offense scored 23 points, 2 below its season average. We then turned the ball over the next possession forcing our defense to be on the field rather than put KSU away with another score. Just because our defense has been able to finish off games against inferior competition doesn’t justify the offensive mistakes and incapability of moving the ball and getting first downs late in a game. Having less of need to pile on tons of extra yards doesn’t explain the end of game mistakes and miscues that keep bad teams close and allow better teams to steal a victory.

I don’t mean to get down on the offense, but it has not performed well with exception to the offensive line and the running backs (however Franklin needs to fix the fumbling issues and the line needs to fix the penalties). Prince and Craft are the weak links in the offense right now. And that’s a pretty crucial position to the success of a football team. Logan needs to step up and play much better, as he is quickly falling behind Moya and Harkey in both playmaking and blocking. I like the offensive potential, but right now it’s only potential. And a loss to Stanford can quickly spiral into 5,6, maybe 7 in a row considering the distribution of talent in our conference.

There are offensive issues with this team that everyone should be aware of before we start thinking that we are likely to even stay the fifth best team in the Pac 10 for the remainder of the season.

by mdjohns4 on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come the SBNation bar on the side

Has the caption “UCLA: Pac-10 Contenders?” when the post it links to doesn’t suggest that at all? Closest it gets is a quote from Ted Miller saying that the Pac 10 is wide open this year.

by Tydides on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Kind of goofy. I suggested Saturday is a huge game but definitely not making that leap without knowing how Saturday goes. Whatever I guess.

by Nestor on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also since I have been posting my vote in this thread

Every week … for mojo’s sake … here is my ballot:

1. Oregon
2. Stanford
3. U$C*
4. Cal
5. UCLA
6. Arizona State
7. Arizona
8. Washington
9. Oregon State
10. Washington State

by Nestor on Sep 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Oregon

After watching Oregon lose to Boise State… in an ugly fashion, my perspective of them has somewhat been altered. My opinion was changed when Utah lost to the Ducks… in an ugly fashion. Then my view for Cal changed when they couldn’t perform well against a middle rung Big 10 School. It all changed/confirmed when Oregon destroyed Cal.
1. Oregon
2. U$C
t. 4. UCLA
t 4. Stanford
5. Cal
6. Washington
7. Oregon State
8. Arizona State
9. Arizona
10. Washington State
In my opinion, rankings should be opinionated by how they would perform against the rest of the field on any given day, and statistically analyzing it, I think these are just about right, but still debatable.

by ucla13_usc9 on Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal at 3?

Wow, that’s way too much respect from you guys. Seriously. 5th sounds about right. Maybe. We’ll see.

Then again, I don’t understand how anyone voted for Cal in their Top 25 ballot. With Maryland look more and more terrible by the week, the Bears’ résumé just doesn’t merit ranking at this point.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Sep 28, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal still has some explosive playmakers

and potential. Stanford lacks some of that explosiveness and aren’t overly fast enough on defense. They also have lost their only road game this year so while they’re much improved and I think will be a tough team to get by this weekend, I’m not completely sold yet. As for us, if Kevin Prince were healthy and has gotten to run the offense versus Kansas St. and shown me out offense can really step it up, I’d have jumped us ahead of you. Our offense is too much of a question mark right now though for me to put us in the top three. I has Arizona at #6 and while I think they’re basically even with us, I want to see if Foles is the real deal first.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 28, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC's Pac-10 title hopes just took another hit...

Running back Stafon Johnson was seriously injured in a weight room accident. Looks like he’s done for the year.

My vote:

1. Oregon – Now these are the Ducks we were expecting.

2. USC – big game at Cal this weekend. Have to go without Stafon Johnson. They’re margin for error is the slimmest it’s been since Carroll’s first season.

3. Stanford – Gerhart is a beast. Cardinal looked awesome against UDub.

4. Cal – Another pratfall by Jeff Tedford and the Bears. Do Cal fans still think they’ve reached elite status after the @ss rip they got in Eugene? And where does Oski go from here? I don’t know, I think they can still beat SC

5. UCLA – want to rank them higher, but the Prince injury is a huge concern. Not convinced at all that Craft can win Pac-10 games. The defense will have to carry them

6. Arizona State – actually showed me something in the loss between the hedges.

7. Arizona – Nice win in Corvallis.

8. Oregon State – Typical Mike Riley slow start. Home loss to ’Zona?! Better get it going, Beavs.

9. Washington – What a difference a week makes.
 
10. Washington State – bad team without a lot of Pac-10 talent.

by BillyZoom on Sep 28, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Out for the season?

Where did you see that? Everything I’ve heard is there is no timetable yet. Either way, it’s a tough break for Johnson. You hate to see kids get hurt and especially in a freak accident like this to the throat. It hurts just thinking about it.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 28, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I heard

Johnson is currently in critical but stable condition. Guy I know who is wired into the SC program doesn’t expect Johnson to play again this season.

by BillyZoom on Sep 28, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious injury

Ya its terrible, it happened lately locally and it didn’t turn out so well. Since it was a bench press injury, I think he’ll be a serious question-mark, but in past experience, he probably won’t be back.

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just heard...

the injury described as a “crushed larynx”. Very serious injury. Johnson is a senior, and this kind of severe injury almost assuredly ends his career at USC. Of course, at this point all that matters is his health. Let’s hope he makes a quick recovery.

by BillyZoom on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Miller reported a 10+ hour surgery

I would say he most assuredly had to undergo a tracheostomy to secure his airway. This doesn’t take that long. My guess is they went ahead and reconstructed his larynx, which was likely fractured. He will need time for swelling and bruising to go down, and healing to occur before the trach could even be removed. I think he is in for a long haul before he will see the playing field again. If you thought a mandible fracture was bad, this is far worse. I wish him a complete recovery.

by Give me a B... on Sep 28, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i look at it differently

I think you have to base it on what teams have accomplished and how they are playing today, not how good we think they could be. With that criteria my rankings are:

1 oregon

2 stanford

3 arizona

4 arizona state

5 ucla
 
6. Usc

7 oregon state

8. Cal

9 uw

10 wsu.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 29, 2009 12:28 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree

Kal has to dive in the ratings after that no-show at Oregon. They should have just phoned in a forfeit and saved the world the carbon footprint from their trip.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with SilverLake

Cal has to drop like a rock in a lake. They need to receive the Oregon treatment for losing as badly as they did.

That being said, I pretty much disagree with everything else. South Central stays at 2 followed by Stanford followed by us. (We’ll rectify this at the farm later this week)

I still don’t buy the hype on the Arizona schools, so I got them lower 7 & 8 sound about right. Despite the loss, I like the way UW is playing, so I would slide them into the 5 spot.

This leaves OSU, WSU and Cal at the bottom. So, move the Zona schools up one notch each.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Sep 29, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

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