[UPDATED] Former Bruin Football Greats Weren't Welcome In Dorrell & Toledo's UCLA Programs
UPDATE (N): Since I wrote this post Meriones did some research and found info. that contradicts the assertion that former Bruin football greats weren't welcome in Dorrell's program. See the info. over here. Players such as James Robinson, Jamir Miller, and Kenny Easley were welcome back to Westwood during Dorrell's reign as honorary captains. So, in this case it would be good to get more specific information from Golden (or Tim Wrigthman) in terms of which coacing regime they were alluding to. GO BRUINS. - N
On the eve of the most anticipated UCLA football season in years, I hate to look back. But this is absolutely necessary because the news below is so amazing (at least to me) it's another jarring reminder of the ongoing culture change under Rick Neuheisel's UCLA football program. It also serves as another data point on how the program was completely neglected and mismanaged under the previous regimes.
So here is our honorary Captain for tomorrow afternoon's game:
HONORARY GAME CAPTAIN - The honorary captain for the 2009 season-opener is Tim Wrightman, a tight end on the 1978-81 teams. Wrightman was named a consensus All-American following the 1981 season and finished his career as the No. 2 receiver in UCLA history with 73 catches. He was also selected to the 1981 football Academic All-America squad. Wrightman was a third-round pick of the Chicago Bears and was a member of the 1986 Bears Super Bowl team. Tim was inducted into the UCLA Athletics Hall of Fame in 2003.
If you are wondering what a honorary team captain is here re the details from Gold in the Daily News:
Each week, a Bruin football alumnus serves as the team's honorary captain. He attends the Friday walkthrough and then speaks to the team. He stays with the team on Friday night and participates in the pre-game coin flip with the team captains.
So perhaps there are BNers here who were around those days who can tell us more about Tim.
Meanwhile more interestingly, Tim Wrightman who has been in Westwood this week for all the pre game festivities gave rather startling quotes to Jon Gold:
In recent years, there was less a focus on the past and more on the present. Old heroes were forgotten, Wrightman said.
Now they are back.
"I took a sabbatical from UCLA just because of the way that the former players were treated," Wrightman said. "They weren't really welcomed back. What Rick has done is create an atmosphere that the older guys are going to be honored. That's a great lesson for these players now. They know they're not just going to put in their four years of service. They realize they will be cherished.
"It makes me proud to be a Bruin again. I'm tired of hearing the BS that you're a Bruin for four years and a Trojan for life. Thirty years later, I'm talking about being a Bruin."
So if I am reading him right Bruin greats such as Tim did not feel welcome to Dorrell and Toledo's programs? Guess I am not all that surprised by Toledo. However, I am definitely amused by the implication that former Bruin legends did not feel welcome in Dorrell's program beacuse they were either forgotten or just neglected.
It kind of makes sense I guess. Dorrell often couldn't remember the players he had on his team (i.e. he forgot Manny White was on his team in his first game as a head coach against Colorado). So how he could he possibly remember all the Bruin greats from previous years.
All I can say, thank God those nightmarish days are over.
GO BRUINS.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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to be fair...
if what mr. wrightman says is accurate, it wasn’t just dorrell and toledo that failed on this front but terry donahue as well.
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Sep 4, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
take back
misread his comment, disregard my post
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dorrell often couldn’t remember the players he had on his team (i.e. he forgot Manny White was on his team in his first game as a head coach against Colorado). So how he could he possibly remember all the Bruin greats from previous years.
But Dorrell always remembered everyone’s birthday! Surely that must count for something (tongue in cheek here, in case that isn’t obvious). Anyway, as a recent grad who only started following UCLA sports in 2004, I am glad to see former football players being honored in the same way that former basketball players have been honored by Howland’s program. It’s certainly a welcome part of the culture change in Spaulding.
by rhoticity on Sep 4, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Toledo makes some sense
he wasn’t a UCLA guy, although it was still stupid.
Dorrell not welcoming players in, even though he was one, is just mind blowing.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Sep 4, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explain to me
Why you wouldn’t bring back old players? Surely they all have something to contribute, and at worst they couldn’t possibly hurt a team building effort.
by Tydides on Sep 4, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a reminder
of yesteryear when UCLA was a good football program. That would have made Dorrell look bad.
by mdjohns4 on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness, I seem to recall CTS bringing in former players...
… as honorary captains on a fairly regular basis.
Most of the reports I’ve heard over the years was about BT giving the cold shoulder to 80s-era Bruins.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Sep 4, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Examples, just from a quick Google search...
10/03 — Former HC Terry Donahue.
9/04 — 1940s-era All-American DE Burr Baldwin.
10/04 — 1970s-era All-American LB James Robinson.
10/05 — 1970s-era All-American DB Oscar Edwards.
9/07 — 1990s-era All-American DE Jamir Miller.
9/07 — 1970s-era All-American DB Kenny Easley.
I think either Tim Wrightman or our new beat blogger Mr. Gold is mistaken.
Wrightman may not have felt welcome during the Toledo years — as we’ve all heard reports that Toledo wasn’t exactly welcoming to our former players — but I respectfully disagree as to whether CTS did the same thing.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Sep 4, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Although most of us agree that Dorrell was not the right head coach, I think it is unfair to say he didn’t welcome back the past players. I don’t see that in the quote. Until some of the past players say something to that effect we should show a little more respect for Dorrell. After all, he is a Bruin and was a very good receiver during my days on campus.
by 84 on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Those are good data points M. I will update my post accordingly.
by Nestor on Sep 5, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, N.
Heaven knows we’ve got truckloads of reasons to blast CTS’ coaching decisions — Manuel White amnesia, unimaginative play-calling, stagnant offensive production, etc., etc. — but this probably wasn’t one of those prima facie reasons.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Sep 5, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I am still very curious about those comments though. Perhaps the former players today feel closer to the program because CRN and his staff might be doing more beyond this kind formal “honorary captain” stuff? May be CRN is doing more to establish relationship with previous players? I really wish Golden expanded on those comments lot more.
But you are right based on the evidence you provided, I can’t ding Dorrell for this.
by Nestor on Sep 5, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seem to recall CRN saying he was big on giving our youngsters a sense of tradition
… and let’s face it, CRN is clearly more of an out-of-the-box thinker than most HCs, not just Dorrell.
In some ways, I think of it like a difference in filmmaking styles. Dorrell would probably tell kids about the story of UCLA with a straight-forward, chronological documentary. Doing the job, but maybe not as much fun,
CRN, on the other hand, would probably go all Coppola (Godfather Trilogy) and pull out rich, complex narratives and jump back forth in time, add some of the heartfelt witty tone of Rob Reiner (When Harry Met Sally) and the biting satire of Alexander Payne (Election), the big-budget production values of producer Frank Marshall (Bourne films), and add some visual flair like Gore Verbinski (Pirates of the Carribean films)
And just note all the esteemed Bruin alums I threw in there, too.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
by Meriones on Sep 5, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this explains why I never saw Mr. Aikman on campus during his offseason
The only former player I recognized on campus during my student years (1996-2000) was Jonathan Ogden.
by bruinbabe2000 on Sep 5, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not every trOJan is a trOJan for life.
Some are 8 and a half to 25.
by Fox 71 on Sep 5, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
brilliant!
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on Sep 6, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it!
Classic.
That’s also about how long it takes some of their players to get their degrees.
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
by HoozierDaddy on Sep 7, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Wrightman
Tim is absolutely right. The Dodgers realized the same thing after several years of neglecting their former players.
I don’t really know Tim very well. He is a friend of one of my cousins. I can tell you a story that I think reflects the quality of this man. Several years ago, when Tim was inducted into the UCLA Hall of Fame, he invited my son to join him at the induction dinner and at the game the next evening. I was able to go along to the game and Tim took my son up to the press box at halftime. That was an unforgetable weekend for my son. My wife was still recovering from a bone marrow transplant for leukemia, so what Tim did really lifted our spirits. When Tim was announced as the honorary team captain, he called my cousin and asked if we wanted tickets. We had to give up our season tickets this year due to finances.
To our family: Tim Wrightman is what being a True Blue Bruin is all about.
I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!
by HoozierDaddy on Sep 7, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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