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Spaulding Roundup: Good Weekend Film Reviews For Prince & OL, Pivoting Into A Rocky Top Mindset

"I tell you what, you will not find anybody else in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than Ed Orgeron and Lane Kiffin.'' - GoVolsXtra.com

by Wade Payne - AP

"I tell you what, you will not find anybody else in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than Ed Orgeron and Lane Kiffin.'' - GoVolsXtra.com

Let's start the Labor Day Monday with little more on what the coaches' saw on game film from this past weekend before shifting our mind over to the Rocky Top. Per the reports this am Neuheisel was pretty impressed with what he saw from Saturday's game film. From the LA Times:

The good:

"The touchdown was a perfect example," Neuheisel said. "He saw the defense, knew the opportunity, checked the play and executed it perfectly."

The bad:

"Later in the game, he checked out of a play, executed poorly and forgot how many steps he was supposed to take," Neuheisel said.

Still, even with the mistakes, Prince's reaction impressed Neuheisel.

"They were ill-advised reads," Neuheisel said of the interceptions. "I think we can fix it. On both occasions, he came over and nodded. Now he knows what he did wrong. You learn from those mistakes, and those balls you won't see again."

It was also pretty cool to see how Chow called for pass plays in the early drives which ensured that Prince didn't find himself in 3rd and long situations after run,run, pass calls. Chow got his young quarterback in the flow early and kept him in rhythm. Neuheisel was also happy with the play of his offensive line:

Neuheisel, however, was particularly encouraged by the play of a young offensive line which had moments of greatness against SDSU defensive coordinator Rocky Long's complex 3-3-5 scheme.

"It was a complicated defense they were playing, and there were times when we didn't get the push we wanted, but we certainly look like we're a better front," Neuheisel said. "We still have a ways to go, and there were a couple time the guys looked confused."

Cautious optimism, though, never is a bad thing.

The improved OL play made Palcic sound like a "proud father" after Saturday's game"

"Last year was probably the toughest year of my career," Palcic said. "These kids worked hard during the off-season and did enough good things to be proud."

That can be charted by numbers. Johnathan Franklin had a 12-yard scoring run for the first touchdown.

The Bruins' nine rushing touchdowns in 2008 totaled 18 yards.

Derrick Coleman went 29 yards in the second quarter.

UCLA's longest scoring play was 21 yards -- a pass play -- in 2008.

Of course there is lot more work to do. As much improvements as Prince and his OL showed from last year's squad on Saturday, they are going to have to take their play to another level if they want to hang in there against the Volunteers next Saturday night in Knoxville. I have some early notes on Tennessee after the jump.

Star-divide

We will have time to go through the Tennessee roster notes to check into the matchups. However, the topline for Saturday's game begins with their coaching staff. I know I have seen lot of shots directed at Lane Kiffin over here on BN (because of his connections to Chetey Petey). I am going to stay away from all of that on the mainpage because I don't think getting worked up over those off-season stories is not really worthy it. That said there is a history between Kiffin and his key assistant coaches and UCLA. Apparently they are not shying away from playing up their rivalry with UCLA dating back to their Trojan roots (emphasis added):

Now it's Tennessee with the new coach promising to restore the program to past glory.

That coach, Kiffin, can count UCLA among the opponents from whom he does not receive Christmas cards.

In 2005, as Southern Cal's offensive coordinator, Kiffin called the shots as the Trojans routed their crosstown rivals 66-19. He was also on the staff of USC teams that beat the Bruins by the likes of 27-0, 52-21 and 47-22.

"I tell you what, you will not find anybody else in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than Ed Orgeron and Lane Kiffin.''

That was Orgeron on Kiffin's TV show Sunday morning.

Orgeron, UT's recruiting coordinator and defensive line coach, was 6-1 against UCLA in his tenure at Southern Cal, part of which overlapped Kiffin's. Suffice it to say he won his share of recruiting wars with the Bruins.

Okay then. That was from Mike Strange at GoVolsXtra.com which has this early primer on UCLA-Tennessee.

So those guys will most likely be charged up for this matchup. Add into the mix the revenge factor of last year's upset at the Rose Bowl (leading to Fulmer's firing), the entire Vol Nation will be frothing over the prospect of a Bruin massacre on national TV. The key for our guys will be poise and concentration:

"It all depends on your concentration," Coach Rick Neuheisel said. "If your concentration level is strong, it’s added energy. There is nothing like playing in front of a big crowd."

And it the concentration level is not strong?

"It can be a distraction," Neuheisel said. "If you’re distracted, you’re not paying attention, you might miss one of the nonverbal communications we use and end up missing a call."

Needless to say this will be a severe test for Prince and the young offense. I am sure as much as the coaches were pleased with what they saw on game film this weekend, they haven't wasted any time to let their guys know how they will have to set aside all those good feeliings, and get locked and focused on the Volunteers right away.

If the Bruins are hoping for any kind of good showing next Saturday, they cannot afford to have the kind of slow start they had on defense against San Diego State. Tennessee is not the kind of team that will sit on their lead. They will come at us with 60 minutes of relentless tenacity, and they will be even more dangerous given the extra incentives due to prior history with their current coaching staff and the immediate history of last year's tough loss.

Hope our guys are paying attention during practices all week and carry that over to Saturday night.

GO BRUINS.

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Let’s just hope that the Bruins learn from the mistakes that they made during the SDSU game and come out looking sharp against Tennessee. I was impressed with the effort of the defense after they scored on twice. They need to come out firing on all cylinders. Who would of thought that our offense would keep us in the game and would have to wait for the defense to come together? Go Bruins!

by djrbruin on Sep 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If anybody should be fired up, it should be UCLA

I was at that miserable game at $UC when they destroyed us 66-19. That was the same year we got 10 wins, only to be completely embarrassed by $UC scum. Not to mention, the walk back to our cars, was the longest walk of shame I have ever experienced in my college experience.

I hope Coach Neu is getting those tapes out just to show our players that its time for payback, and nothing sweeter then getting back at Kiffin at their home. I hope we’re fired up next saturday, this should be a great game!

by UCLABRU1 on Sep 7, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk of shame

that game and the Miami game were pretty similar “walks of shame” for myself.

by bornagainbruin on Sep 7, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

45 -42 is not shameful

especially when you get beat on phantom fumble call

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 7, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well....

I was sitting in the row in FRONT of the student section, and talking a ton of smack, especially when we were up 17 mid-4th quarter.

by bornagainbruin on Sep 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Becoming more impressed with the offensive line play

after watching the game again. SDSU brought pressure from so many different spots, and stunted often as well. I was very pleased to see that Kevin Prince has good pocket presence, and can take a hit.
The running game really impressed me, as the backs showed a huge amount of patience (especially Coleman). I recall only one obvious occasion where a receiver and the quarterback seemed to be on the wrong page in the playbook (Prince threw an out pattern ball while the receiver went in). Not only did Prince realize his 2 bad reads, but he was also irritated with himself on the series before the second pick, as the camera showed him coming over sideline shaking his head. This team has a feel to me like the Neuheisel team of his senior year (I hope without the 1-3-1 start) as they got better each week and wound up destroying U of Illinois in the Rose Bowl.

by sam_in_hb on Sep 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coaching Matchups and X factors

Rick Neuheisel vs Lane Kiffin: UCLA
Norm Chow vs Jim Chaney: UCLA
Chuck Bullough vs Monte Kiffin: Tennessee

X Factors:
Home field advantage: Tennessee
Gutty little Bruins: UCLA

We can win this game, but that home field advantage is huge. I would love to get out to an early lead and shut that crowd up. I’m getting pumped up just thinking about it.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Sep 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i think its a toss up

I give them the edge cuz of home field, but I think the teams are pretty darn even.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong matchups

it’s Norm Chow vs. Monte Kiffin, and Chuck Bullough vs. Jim Chaney. And it doesn’t mean a thing if the kids don’t execute.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Sep 10, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot F'ing stand Kiffin

I have always liked and respected the Tennessee football program. Neyland has to be in the top 5 of college football venues. The team has a long and storied history. From what I can tell the fans are knowledgeable and courteous. Yup, one of my favorites. That is, until they hired Lame.

Lame is a no talent, arrogant, big-talking (big hat; no cattle), no-resume having, Class A Jack Ass. To me he is no different that Brennan Carroll. Each got jobs handed to him because of who his Daddy is. Ogre is also a no-talent arrogant jerk. When Lame and Ogre were given head coaching opportunities, both fell flat (and hard) on their face.

I know the odds are stacked against us because Tennessee is an awfully tough place for any visiting team to play in, but I will laugh my ass off if we go in there and steal one from Lame and the Ogre.

I just hope for the Tennessee fans that Kiffin falls hard and fast so that they can move on and get a coach that they deserve. And one who actually deserves to be handed the keys to such an outstanding program.

Hey, has anyone checked yet to see if firelamekiffin.com is available?

by Karl II on Sep 7, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ROFL

Tell us how you really feel!

by Nestor on Sep 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just sayin'

Hey, man-you should know by now that I just call ’em as I see ’em.

by Karl II on Sep 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

And I have no problem with that.

by Nestor on Sep 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You

should have your buddies on the Vols portion of SBN warm up the FLK website just in case. Somehow, I think they will be needing it.

Tell ’em ole Koach Karl says they should be prepared.

by Karl II on Sep 7, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I am going to bet some Tennessee fans are already prepared. I don’t see us winning on Saturday. However, if we steal one … the meltdown is going to be epic.

by Nestor on Sep 8, 2009 4:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I agree, but if we somehow pull it off. . . Laugh. My. Ass. Off. F Lame.

by Karl II on Sep 8, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiffin is Lavin

Ah, another Kiffin Hater… Kiffin IS Steve Lavin. He is almost identical to Kiffin… great recruiter… great personality… takes shots at other coaches in the conference… not too good of a coach, just ask Baron Davis

by ucla13_usc9 on Sep 7, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lavin was NOT a great recruiter.

that is a huge myth. Lavin came in fresh off of our National Championship when the name basically sold itself. For years. But, after years of underperforming the recruits got wise to him and stopped signing up. As evidenced by the empty cupboards he left Ben Howland to work with.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Sep 7, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of great recruiter

I prefer to say Lavin had UCLA. UCLA is one hell of a recruiter.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 7, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not for nothing

but I don’t know if a team with Neuheisel at the helm should be throwing stones re: head coaches.

Anywho, good luck on Saturday, and for any of y’all making the trip, I hope my fellow Vol fans continue the reputation of sportsmanship and hospitality that we have earned.

by danmarcel on Sep 8, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all,

I’ll assume that you meant to say that “fans of a team with Neuheisel at the helm…”

Second, when you compare circumstances, degrees of violation, and punishments meted, both official and personal, Coach Neuheisel’s history compares quite favorably to those of his contemporaries, many of whom have undergone less or no punishment for greater violations. There is ample substantive discussion of the whole story, not just the superficial reputation, on this and other boards.

Third, when you consider Coach Neuheisel’s owning of his transgressions, he looks pretty damn good compared to contemporaries.

p.s. You have to understand that, around these parts, Coach Kiffin’s ties with u$c have everything to do with our barbs, and nothing to do with Tennessee, itself. Good luck to the Vols, too.

by Bruinut on Sep 8, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yards per carry

Earlier in the year Coach Neuheisel commented that a key to this year’s succes was going to be establish the run and get the yards per carry up. Does anybody know what our yards per carry were on Saturday?

Go Bruins
TRM

by G0Bruins on Sep 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He wants at least 4 yards per carry,

so we’ve got some work to do… but wasn’t last season something dismal like 1.8?

by dproduct on Sep 7, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

That seems pretty low, considering we had some monster runs.

by Centric on Sep 7, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the ESPN box score

that’s what we averaged. Remember that in college, sacks count as rushes so it counts as a carry and against the rushing yards. Prince’s 7 rushes for 15 yards definitely hurts.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 7, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we don't take into Prince's rush into account

Our backs ran for 162 yards in 30 carries, averaging 5.4 yards per carry. That’s not too shabby.

by Nestor on Sep 7, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Running Damien Thigpen

between the tackles on the final drive also kept the average down.

By the way, didn’t Damien Thigpen originally commit to Tennessee? If so, I think it would be wonderful if he played a big role in the game (returns, receiving out of the backfield).

by sam_in_hb on Sep 7, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rocky Top Talk

As of right now, its just me and Dodgers holding up the ship over there… here’s what I said… ya i know. Kinda biased, but whatever.

Well first things first… I am ecstatic to see that my next flight is going to Knoxville. I remember when you guys killed us, in I think 105 degree heat.. Smoky passed out i believe. Among the heat, Tennessee, in my opinion, has the best fans in the world. Nicest, most loyal, and football knowledgeable (All three of those traits are lacking for that school across the street… something like $UC or something…) Win, or lose, I can probably be guaranteed a good time.

I’ll try to be as unbiased as possible… it probably won’t be though.

The Good for the Vols:

1. UCLA is a bunch of freshmen. Basically, without the players to interfere, Neyland should make a big enough difference to change the game-plan with almost all freshmen on the line and backfield. On the other hand, it would seem as if Kevin Prince got all of his Freshmen jitters out in the opening game (fumbling snaps, bad progressions).

2. Revenge factor, this one could go either way, and everyone has heard about the Labor Day disappointment, and then UCLA went on to lose 59-0 the next week to a non-BCS team (so sad for the SEC and the Vols, and OU now). Plus everyone knows how Kiffin has dominated Karl “Doperell”, which has always been a pretty task, no matter how good the players (Example: UCLA’s only 10 win season under Dorrell was when UCLA had Maurice Jones-Drew, Drew Olson, & Marcedes Lewis, in which USC won 66-19, the rest were around 500 seasons).

Bad News Bears for the Vols:

1. UCLA’s Offensive Line:
UCLA recruited, transfered around, and look, they put together a pretty good O-Line. Last week had just about the biggest holes I have ever seen in the new Millennium for UCLA, but the true story was Pass Protection. UCLA’s OFFENSIVE LINE, did not give up a sack all game, but the extra blockers with a little less size got beat by blitzing backers in the 3-3-5, causing Prince to scramble, and not throw an interception, notice how I said did not throw an interception instead of getting sacked, because well, Craft would have done that, hence: 4 INT’s – 1 Half. I think there will be a sack or two, but nothing that will force Prince into a breakdown like Craft had.

2. UCLA has a run offense
2a: This offense will warm you up with Jonathan Franklin, hit you in the mouth with Derrick Coleman, and mix in some speed with Milton Knox. Sure, they haven’t seen much adversity, but the concept still exists and probably will work.
2b: Passing, UCLA only had to use 2 receivers on many plays, to get more protection, and still tore up a 3-3-5 defense. (For those of you who don’t know, 3-3-5 stops runs up the middle, can provide blitzing angles from one to all of the 5 “linebackers”, and defends in a lot of man coverage). Those two receivers were Terence Austin, and Taylor Embree (for the most part), and the specialty receivers didn’t even get a chance to catch the ball.
3. UCLA’s Defense is MUCH better than last year. SDSU shouldn’t have scored 14 points, or 7 for that matter, but that’s not the point. The defensive line lost one, but gained the new Brian Price, and even more tenacity and speed. Price took up 3 blockers, and don’t you DARE tell me he’s overrated, because he’s not. The LB’s are better than most teams in the PAC 10 and Tennessee too, IMHO. Carter is just a vacuum, and Bosworth has improved 200 percent, Ayers is still in the learning, but raw talent has shown a lot. The DB’s are sprinkled with POTW honors (Rahim Moore w/ 3 INT’s last week), All American Honors (Alterraun Verner, ya there’s not too much to say… he’s ATV), hmm, sounds a lot like some team that is from Tennessee… hmm…

Intangibles:
Coaching: Neuheisel vs. Kiffin
Personally, I think this might be worth more than just 7 points, (it worked for 17 last year for UCLA), Chow was testing the offense last week, he challenged them to run between the tackles. Looking at it in numbers, its 3-4 blockers vs. 5-7 defenders, and they responded with the biggest amount of yardage since he got there. That would even out, in my opinion, for talent & numbers because Tennessee>SDSU right? But everyone knows. Chow also powdered Prince with plenty of underneath routes, rarely challenging deep, not because of lack of “cahones”, but necessity, due to coverage types, and good reads.

I’m gonna get hell for this, but IMHO, Neuheisel>Kiffin (Kiffin is the Lavin of College Football, look Lavin up…) Limiting the offensive and defensive aggression worked out REALLY WELL, so what happens when he turns the keys over to Chow completely? Kiffin didn’t hold back (63-3 right?), so UCLA has film now (lol, I’m sure he’s got more than just the plays that beat the Hilltoppers)

Prediction:
UCLA will have troubles early, just like last year, but Tennessee will maybe face 2 more defenses with the same veteran crews as UCLA. iT WILL BE A SLOPPY GAME. Both teams will experience offensive problems, mostly UCLA because well… they’re all freshmen, and Orange is a pretty distracting color. But UCLA’s defense should hold Tennessee’s offense for quite a long time, because Crompton doesn’t backpedal… and backpedal… and backpedal like SDSU’s QB did, and he’ll get sacked more than he would like to be. The DB’s will force turnovers, stalemating both sides right?
Let’s look at stars:
Austin cancels out your wide receiver… Rodgers right?
Verner & Price cancel out Berry (Ya he’s a beast)

It can’t end 0-0, but special teams could end up, again, deciding the game. Kai Forbath is the best kicker in the nation.

That was the optimistic Bruin.

Now for reality.

UCLA has many things to fix, Tennessee doesn’t.

Tennessee has experience, UCLA doesn’t.

Tennessee has around 100,000 crazy fans, UCLA never will.

 

There is a fairly good chance UCLA will get blown out, but what can you base that on?

WKU doesn’t have exactly what you would like to call a stingy defense… they have well… not really that much.

Kiffin and Co. can run up the score on WKU, but uh… so can UCLA.

 

My advice to you, Vol Nation, is to not take Crompton, and to the level of different… well, better players around the league. They haven’t proved anything yet but that’s what they think too. They want to prove they’re for real. Which is why the ball will bounce towards the Vols.

I’m not saying that UCLA is going to lose… I never will, but they very well might score less points than their opponent in this game.

Well all game tempers aside, hopefully I’ll see some of the Rockytoptalk nation at Calhoun’s on Friday!

by ucla13_usc9 on Sep 7, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Guys if you are engaging at RockyTopTalk

I would request everyone here to be respectful and represent BN well. They are good people over there at RTT. We had a great time going back and forth with them last year. Hope to have the same kind of interaction with Tennessee fans this week.

by Nestor on Sep 7, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RTT has been bickering

I’m trying to stay as classy as possible… getting some pretty arrant shots at me though. It must have changed since 95’… ya just read my first paragraph

by ucla13_usc9 on Sep 7, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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