Spaulding Roundup: Curious Signals Out Of Tennessee & Other Game Notes
Hmm. We have some interesting soundbites to start out with this Gameweek Humpday. I pointed to the following quote from Ed Orgeron, the Volunteers assistant head coach (who used to be one of Chetey Petey's head honcho across town) setting up the game week (emphasis added throughout):
"I tell you what, you will not find anybody else in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than Ed Orgeron and Lane Kiffin.''
Orgeron made that comment on Kiffin's TV show Sunday morning. Kiffin downplayed the comments from his assistant coach:
"I didn’t say that. I read that. I don’t know. You’d have to ask him why he said that," Kffin told reporters. "He’s never been very fond of their colors or their team. I remember a lot of pregame speeches from him."
Kiffin worked very hard to apparently to let everyone know he didn't make those comments (guess he is not responsible for the actions of his own assistant coaches) and gave the right answers on his relationship with Norm Chow. From the LA Times:
Chow was USC's offensive coordinator and Kiffin a Trojan assistant from 2001-04. That ended when Coach Pete Carroll either promoted Kiffin in order not to lose him or ditched Chow because he was getting too much credit after consecutive national championships, depending on the version.
But Kiffin was ready with the right answer, saying Chow was "very instrumental in my development as a coach. I got a chance to spend four years next to him. I watched him call plays. I watched him run the quarterbacks. I watched him run the offense. I am very grateful to have had that chance."
Well that's really sweet. Kiffin then vowed that his players were not going to look back at last year's game:
"This is a different team, and a different time. We don't talk about the past," he said. "This just happens to be the next one on the schedule. It has nothing to do with whether we've played them before or whether we've had success or not."
[B]erry, the Volunteers' All-American safety, called the loss to UCLA last season a self-inflicted wound.
"I'm not saying we thought we were going to beat them going into the game, but we did ease up on them at the end," Berry said. "We can't let that happen again, with us losing focus and pretty much giving up at the end of the game."
Well I guess thanks to Mr. Berry's kindness and generosity for gift wrapping last year's win. More than happy to take it.
Not sure what to make of all these comments coming out of Knoxville though. It's kind of weird. They seemed to be a little of out of sync with each. It's too bad Jill Painter was barking up the wrong tree to write up her dumb story. It might have been more on point if she had taken an early flight out to Tennessee. More game notes after the jump.
We have talked a lot about Bruins playing 18 freshmen (including 8 true freshmen) last weekend against San Diego State. Bruins will be talking on a Tennessee team that is going through its own youth movement. They played 10 freshmen in their 63-7 win over Western Kentucky. The group was headlined by wide receiver Marsalis Teague who was the only one to start and led the receivers with 86 yards on 6 catches with a 5 yard TD pass. From AP's Beth Rucker:
"I thought Marsalis was extremely impressive, especially for him to start and all the pressure with that," coach Lane Kiffin said.
Kiffin told the Vols before the season they would all have a chance to earn starting positions and playing time — including the true freshmen.
Tailback Bryce Brown got his share of playing time, racking up 104 yards rushing and a touchdown. Fellow running back David Oku added two more touchdowns.
Receivers Nu'Keese Richardson and Zach Rogers, safety Darren Myles Jr., cornerback Mike Edwards, safety Janzen Jackson, linebacker Greg King, defensive tackle Montori Hughes and linebacker Nigel Mitchell-Thornton also played.
Not everything went smoothly in their first game. Richardson fumbled his first punt return. Brown broke a 34-yard run up the sideline but stepped out of bounds rather than pushing forward for more yards.
"He ran out of bounds and did not finish it in the style that we play with here, so that was disappointing, but he'll learn from that," Kiffin said.
I am sure Kiffin and co. will be working these kids hard all week so that they can make a dramatic jump in terms of improvement from Western Kentucky to UCLA. These guys will be in the same situation like our freshmen and first time starters who I imagine are working hard this week on the practice field and film room to learn from their mistakes from first week.
One of the guys who will get a huge shot this week will be redshirt sophomore Courtney Viney, who is going to get the start at other CB spot (because of injury to Aaron Hester). Per Jon Gold of the Daily News, Viney is ready to seize his moment:
"The guy just finds ways to make plays," Neuheisel said. "He's not the biggest guy in the world, but you can't tell him that. That's why small people can play this game, because they don't know they're small and won't buy into the thought they are. Courtney was `Johnny on the Spot' the other night, and we needed him." [...]
UCLA will match up against an offense that put up 63 points - albeit against a Western Kentucky team making its Football Bowl Subdivision debut. The 5-foot-8 Viney will match up against Quintin Hancock for some of the game.
Make that 6-foot-3 senior wide receiver Quintin Hancock.
Viney has some experience against bigger wideouts, including UCLA's 6-3 Taylor Embree.
"I love when I see Courtney going one on one against taller receivers," Lake [Carnell Lake] said. "That's the kind of work he's going to get. Tennessee has those receivers, too."
I think Viney will be up to the challenge. I was impressed with his effort from Saturday. Not only did he look ready to step up he also played a big role in shutting down the Aztecs passing attack. I thought he was a big part of the defensive effort that throttled Ryan Lindley after the first two drives by San Diego State.
I am not saying it is going to be easy for him. No doubt the Tennessee offense will be gunning for him. However, as Lake mentioned, it's not like there will be lack of preparation on his part since he is going to go up against tall, athletic recievers at practice every day.
Saturday is going to be a monster challenge for the entire team. If he can read through the mixed signals referenced above the fold, you can sense how Kiffin and Orgeron will have their guys lathered up with emotion and ready for blood. I think this will also represent a huge opportunity for Neuehisel and our guys to make a statement on national stage.
Time and time again UCLA football team has embarrassed itself on national stage in this kind of situation in recent years. We are not going to get that many opportunities to make a statement on national stage this year (except for couple of other key conference games). I do believe the goal for this year is somehow sneak into a bowl game and keep the recruiting momentum going. However, if we can come out and fight, match their intensity with focus, and sneak out with a win, it will turn into rocket boosters for this program.
I wrote last night how our defensive front-7 will have their hands full with the Tennessee o-line. They will need to hold their own against the size and experience of Tennessee OL. However, it will take more than that. We are going to need a lot of help from our special teams and we are going to need poise and focus from our offense. We can't come out and go three and out like we did against BYU last season. We will have to mount some credible drives early in the game and get on the scoreboard early. All of this again comes down to having focus and the requisite intensity to match the emotion (and possibly hatred) coming from the Tennessee sidelines. We will have to be ready for a fight.
GO BRUINS.
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Special Teams
In my opinion, a huge key to the game. Last year’s game basically came down to special teams (blocked punt for TD, Forbath nailing FG in OT, Lincoln missing their FG). It’s the X-factor that can hopefully overcome the inevitable freshmanitis they will experience at Neyland.
by hicalliber on Sep 9, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What a coincidence!
There is nobody else in the world I’d rather beat more than Ed Orgeron and Lane Kiffin!
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Sep 9, 2009 8:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pete Carroll?
Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?
by bucknellbruin on Sep 9, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, You got me there.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Sep 9, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
El Diablo!
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
El Douchebag!
Glad you agree! Im in Knoxville now gettin ready for Saturday! Hope its a great game! :)
by uclafan11 on Sep 9, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no credit for the bruins
It seems to be that everyone is giving tennessee the edge. There is no doubt that they have a home-field advantage, but to say that last year was a mistake is a poor assumption. Most vol fans say that they lost because the coaching staff stopped running the ball despite the success they had. This is often said in conjunction with them going into a softer coverage scheme as the game wore on (what berry is alluding to). What bothers me is that no one looks at what happened to ucla in the preseason. We lost two starting o-lineman, one o-lineman broke his hand (and later played with a full hand cast), and our starting runningback was dinged up after having off-season knee surgery. Oh and did I mention that our two top quarterbacks went down with season-ending injuries during the summer? And their replacement was a jc transfer? Why yes he was… and he threw four first-half picks. During the first quarter game we also lost a starting senior wide receiver and starting senior tight end; not to mention that we lost our already weakened starting running back to an ankle injury in that very same quarter. By the way ucla won 27 to 24.
I believe it is a little premature to discount the bruins from being competetive in this game.
p.s. we had first year head coach and offensive coordinator
by Bruins4L on Sep 9, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
all very good points
but I’m fine with having UT think they lost the game rather than us winning it. we overcame all of the above and managed to win a game that many thought we had no chance of winning (UT was ranked at the time). this time around seems like deja vu….so I’ll take the same result as last year (minus the injuries).
by hicalliber on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear, hear.
Well said.
Troy will fall.
by Bruins102NCAA on Sep 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year's win
was surprising, at least to me, who went to the Rose Bowl expecting a two-touchdown loss but left with a big grin and a feeling of euphoria that lasted till the next game and never really returned. But this year’s team is so much better on offense that the contrast is like night and day. The available data suggest that Tennessee deserves to be the favorite, but really, there are so many unknowns, that there is no reason not to give the Bruins a good chance. In a sense, both teams are playing their first game. I don’t think that UT’s win over Western Kentucky proves anything beyond the Kiffin-Orgeron willingness to run up the score, something they will certainly do to us if they get the chance. I wish I could hear what CRN and his staff are saying to the team. I am sure that it is different from the pablum they are (wisely) dishing out for public consumption. I know we will be ready to compete, and I am looking forward to Saturday. As always, Go Bruins!
by ReineSeite on Sep 9, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget last year
And forget about last week. The Vol’s played a glorified high school team and SD State is rebuilding. This week is what it is all about. The team that comes out a winner here get’s a huge boost in national recognition. If you go on their sites you’d think they were playing for the BCS Championship. If you go a little deeper you can sense their nervous. They don’t know what they have. We know what we’ve got. If we can get things going defensively early they might get a hairball. As far as the coaches are concerned, K&O are going to try and snatch the pebble from Norm’s hand. Look! We’re as good as Norm. They haven’t proved anything to themselves or others and they will try and roll it up on us if they can. Just say it Lane; I’m good enough, I’m smart enough…Doggonit.
Roll on Bruins!
by BruinAl on Sep 9, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just, out of curiousity
What do the Bruins have, and how do you know that you have it?
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by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nervous?
Come on. We had the #3 defense in the nation last year. That has only improved with the addition of Monty Kiffin as DC <—should not be any argument there. Last years offense ranked 110 out of 118. We took at team full of players recruited to play a pro-style offense and tried to implement some goofy hybrid of the spread. The results show how that worked.
The Vols have gone back to what the players were recruited to play, pro-style offense. Kiffin has brought in energy and enthusiasm that seemed to have drifted away in recent years with Fulmer.
I am not going to try to predict the outcome of the game, but your young Bruins are about to walk into one of the more hostile stadiums in the country. Remember Cal a couple years ago? They were overwhelmed at their surroundings until the second half. At that point it was too late.
I will say this. You are going to have your hands full.
by vol4life999 on Sep 9, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, sure.
all good points. But, Cal is also notorious for choking in big games. That’s why they haven’t been to a Rose Bowl since ’59. Every time they get close, they reach a point where every game is a big game. Inevitably, they end up choking it away.
I like your point about the pro-style offense being reinstated since you have pro-style personnel. But UCLA has played big game in big houses and kept our cool. We’ve beat Oregon in Oregon. Beat Alabama in Bama. Sure, none of our freshman were around for that. But again, we’re not Cal.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Sep 9, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respect for UCLA
Folks, you might want to read local sports headlines if you want a "flava’ or a “sense” of UT vs UCLA. All I have read is what tremendous repsect the coaches and players have for UCLA. I’m not really picking-up on the nervousness as BruinAL… UT made WKU look like a glorified highschool team. See link below.
http://www.wbir.com/sports/college/story.aspx?storyid=98281&catid=146
There is no last year…there’s only Saturday at 4PM EST at Neyland. Erin Andrews will be on the sideline…just a FYI!
Good luck and I hope UCLA plays well. Get ready for a VOL beatdown.
by JaySFL on Sep 9, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a point
Some of the fans here (and on RTT too, I’ll admit) seem to think that both of these teams are the same. Personally, I think Tennessee will win not because of their performance last year, but on these two points:
- Tennessee has more overall talent than UCLA. I mean, I guess this is still debateable but I do believe that UCLA was not the better team talent wise last year, but they certainly were the better team in execution and passion. I think that Lane Kiffin & crew will have this team playing with much more passion for the game – there’s plenty of evidence for that this year! And when both teams play fired up, then I think that talent becomes a bigger issue. App State didn’t beat Michigan because they were better talent-wise.
- Tennessee is at home. I’m not trying to buff up the SEC any more than the media already has, and I’ve never been to a PAC-10 game, but I have been to several ACC games (I live in ACC territory, not SEC land) and I know that the “big” ACC games don’t hold a candle to the SEC audiences. A lot of freshman for UCLA might spell some big trouble for the young Bruins.
- Revenge Factor. The coaches can say all they want about not looking at last year, but I think we all know the Tennessee players from last year will really show up. They’ve got more to prove, especially to their home crowd team.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Three points.
I added #3 without remembering I mentioned numbers in the intro. I blame hooperism. I seem to have caught it.
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by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lamey
is known for the “passion” he successfully brought to the Raiders organization.
by Karl II on Sep 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Passion
Is a lot harder to muster in Pro Athletes, who play for money, as opposed to College kids, who play to play.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobo, you can't really be serious about your money comment.
Do you forget where Lame prepped? He was at just$c*. They had a guy there named bu$h who got more money as a senior than probably half the players at Oakland. You make lots of good points (and a few bad ones, too), but you really lose credibility when you suggest that the players Lame coached at just$c* weren’t getting paid. That has been going on for decades. (Look up Clarence Reece when you get a chance.)
I make no suggestion, hint or anything else that Lame is doing at Tennessee what he learned at just$c* in terms of paying players. I do suggest that the master at whose knee Lame learned what he learned has no real concept about those pesky things some of us call “rules,” which explains the numerous times Lame drove the great orange ship onto the rocks before the season started. That’s not his fault. He was taught that you disregard the rules, and the school will never, ever self-report. It looks like he misunderstood the integrity factor at Tennesee.
Anyway, I’m rooting for UCLA this weekend. This will also be the first year in a long time that I will not be rooting for Tennessee when it is playing someone other than the Bruins. I just don’t like Lame. I always thought that Fullmer had class.
End of rant.
by Fox 71 on Sep 9, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're talking about the same guy
Who Coach Chow “learned” under, right?
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Fulmer might have had class, but Tennessee had a history of having a few classes shorter than what was being reported under Fulmer, because he didn’t really require people to always go.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chow and Fullmer
I didn’t know that Fullmer had integrity problems. He hid them well. I missed the stories about that. Does the local press stick its collective head in the sand about the dark side of Tennessee football? The people of Los Angeles have the good fortune of being in a one newspaper town, and the paper is known as the Fishwrap, because that’s all it’s good for. To give you an idea of the editorial philosphy of the ‘wrap, there was no story in it about Tim Floyd getting caught paying $1,000 in case to one of OJ Payo’s handlers until a month or so after the event. The ‘wrap is also called the Trojan Times. There is a long-term downside to having no inquisitive media, because the coaches start to think that breaking the rules is acceptable. I applaud Tennessee’s administrators for self-reporting Lame. But unless you’re ready trade integrity for wins, Tennessee fans need to keep a close watch on him, because he did spend so much time with Carroll.
Moving on, do you think Coach Chow was “learning” from Cheatie Petie? Sorry, but you really don’t get it. Coach Chow was the offense, Cheatie Petie was the defense. Coach Chow was encouraged to leave when he got in the way of Cheatie’s ego. I’m surprised that you didn’t know this, given Coach Chow’s Tennessee connection.
The bottom line is that Coach Chow has done absolutely nothing to suggest that he has any issues with honesty and integrity. Your new head coach started violating NCAA rules within minutes of getting the job. That is blameworthy, of course, but not entirely unexpected, given that his formative years were spent at an institution where cheating is a way of life.
by Fox 71 on Sep 10, 2009 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary Violations
Really do happen all the time. As was mentioned before, Ole Miss has 5, Alabama has like 4, etcetc, but you don’t hear about those. Actually, a lot of those secondary violations were because of rule changes while Kiffin was in Oakland, and Tennessee did self report those issues.
As for Tennessee papers “hiding” the, ahem, indiscresions of Fulmer’s discipline, trust me I know several people in Tennessee who didn’t cheer on the Vols for that one reason. You’ve heard of the Fulmer Cup, I bet? Yeah, there’s a reason it’s called the Fulmer cup. One thing that impressed me about Lane right off the bat was that he went around to classrooms to make sure people were attending their classes and, if he found out they hadn’t been, he gave them the boot. At least one starter of last year was dismissed from the team because of this.
Tennessee, and Lane Kiffin as far as I’m aware, has never been involved in any of those “paying the recruits” sort of shennanigans that other programs have, like USC and, say, Alabama, other than Tennessee’s involvement in reporting ’Bama’s.
But really, Secondary Violations can be considered cheating as far as .. oh .. well, no, they really can’t. Have you ever heard of NCAA Sanctions for secondary violations? No? Me neither.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 10, 2009 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we really want to talk about head coaches and NCAA infractions?
I don’t think a UCLA fan really wants to walk down that path.
by danmarcel on Sep 11, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bobo the vol
there is no way in hell you just related or game to app. state v michigan. Is that a joke? Are you remebering that our team led by a jc transfer who threw four picks in the first half beat your team?
by Bruins4L on Sep 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I did
In that the UCLA Bruins last year showed me a lot more energy than a more talented Tennessee team did. Same with App State — they played a LOT more fired up vs a much better Michigan team.
I was giving a pretty big compliment to UCLA. I don’t think that UCLA was as good, talent-wise, than the Vols were last year, but UCLA won fair and square. I think part of the Vols problem was their coaching, too, but that goes right back to effort.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bring up the App State game
Quite a bit, because I attended Appy State the year that we upset the Wolverines. And even I’m not brash enough to say that we had more talent than Carr’s team, we just played with more desire to win, like UCLA did in the game against Tennessee last year, in my opinion.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobo,
Did you really just compare UCLA football to App State? You really need to quit while your behind. There is not even a slight resemblance to our program. The fact is the game last year was too close for comfort to be satisfied about anything. Our 3rd string, JC transfer QB threw 4 interceptions and the vols still weren’t able to capitalize. Right now all i care about is that our team shows up prepared and hungry for a win.
I really don’t see how a home game in Los Angeles that was won in overtime by 3 pts. can be used as billboard material. Right now UCLA is playing to prove that it can win when it counts, and the fans are just hoping to see a spirited bruin team.
The truth is, You guys should have never hired Kiffin, he’s a joke, and a clown, much like Carroll, only his method of gaining success is comparable to the $UC culture. Let Daddy buy you in. And in this case, I hope Chow and Neu are showing our players what Oregeron and kiffin did to UCLA the last time they coached against us…
Either way, whether there was less talent or the Vols were talentless I really see no difference in a team that wasn’t able to do more against a very crippled UCLA team. This game should be really close if UCLA doesn’t implode.
by UCLABRU1 on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So, lemme get this straight
Coach Rick Neuheisel, who has been charged with major allegations at his last two coaching gigs (The obvious, obvious one @ Colorado and the somewhat more muddled one at Washington) is an angel, while a guy who doesn’t have the nickname “Liar Lane” or something like that (Note than no-one has brought up the “Slick Rick” name-calling yet, because we believe in not throwing around accusations until their is some basis for those accusations, which I haven’t seen from CRN at UCLA yet, and you haven’t seen from Lane Kiffine at UT yet) is obviously a cheater because he was on the same staff as a cheater? Your argument is somewhat flawed.
Also, if you need no other meme that Tennessee had a more talented team than the Bruins last year (other than, you know, recruiting records, pre-season rankings, etc) look at the final records. Even with a win over Tennessee, UCLA had a worse record. They are called upsets for a reason, and UCLA’s win last year was definately an upset for the Bruins.
Really, I don’t know why you’re so upset that I’m accusing your coach of the following: pumping up his team, calling effective plays, managing the game well, solid second half adjustments. And, from what I’ve seen, the staff you guys have is pretty good at recruiting, but you can’t fill a cupboard as empty as UCLA’s was when Neuheisel arrived in just one or two shopping trips.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 10, 2009 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uclabru1
I think my criticism sufficed and bobo explained himself. You don’t have to go bashing Pete Carroll and calling Kiffin a clown
by Bruins4L on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bashing Carroll
No one has to defend himself or herself here on BN for beating up on Chetey Petey.
by Nestor on Sep 10, 2009 4:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheatie Petie's well-documented life is self-bashing requiring no further discussion, and Lame invited the clown comparison
Nothing further need be said about Cheatie Petie. His soul has been mortgaged. I really pity him, all things considered.
In my opinion, Lame deserves to be called a clown. The guy had no resume when he agreed to coach in Oakland, and the clown make-up started getting applied at that point. When is the last time you heard of any coaching success story in Oakland? But Lame jumped at that chance, and immediately joined the parade of guys with funny hair jumping out of the little car in the center ring.
Then Lame goes to Tennessee and starts shooting his mouth off, apparently just to make sure that everyone saw that he had his red fright wig and his big red nose on. You think the other coaches in the SEC won’t have their teams ready to play? I think it’s highly likely that when UT playes Florida, one of the two teams is going to roll up 60+ points, and “Rocky Top” is not boing to be played 350 times.
To sum up, there is nothing about Cheatie Petie which does not deserve bashing. And Lame is wearing a clown hat, has a clown wig on, has a big read nose, is wearing clownular baggy pants, and has big, oversized clown shoes. To me, Lame deserves to be called a clown under the circumstances.
by Fox 71 on Sep 10, 2009 4:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last time I heard of a Coaching Success in Oakland?
Ever heard of, oh, Jon Gruden, who from 1998-2001 had a 59% win percentage and went to the playoffs twice (went on to win a superbowl @ the Buccaneers) or Bill Callahan who took the Raiders to the playoffs in 2002? Al Davis wasn’t off his rocker at that point, and I don’t see how you accuse someone of a logical fallacy when going from an Offensive Co-ordinator (where he had had quite a bit of Success, as I’m sure UCLA fans are aware) to an opportunity to coach at the highest level?
Not to mention, it’s been well recorded that Lane Kiffin:
- said that he was going to stir things up a bit to Mike Hamilton (UT’s Athletic Director) when he was hired, and say some things that he might not like in order to get Tennessee talked about.
- With that “clown” approach he signed players like #1 Overall Recruit (Scout.com) Bryce Brown, Florida WR commits Nu’Keese Richardson and Marsalius Teague, Super-recruit Janzen Jackson from LSU, and helped elevate a class that was already looking good under Fulmer to a top 10 class according to pretty much every site.
- Since the recruiting season is over, Lane Kiffin has become much less quotable for opposing teams, which would indicate that he knew exactly what he was doing in stirring the pot, doesn’t it?
Also, I’m sick of the “You can bet coach XXX will have his team ready to play against Tennessee” argument. You might not understand this, but any coach in the SEC sure as heck better have his team ready to play any team on any saturday without any bulletien board material, else they’ll quickly find themselves not in a coaching job. Florida wanted to beat Tennessee anyways. Alabama wanted to beat Tennessee anyways. Florida and Alabama wanted to beat everyone anyways.
I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.
by bobo_the_vol on Sep 10, 2009 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clownular?
LOL!
Is that a new word because it is funny as hell?
Troy will fall.
by Bruins102NCAA on Sep 10, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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