Cheatey Petey Leaves Behind A Toxic U$C*: TrOJans Feeling Desperate As Troy Burns Down "In Flames"
by Nestor on Jan 11, 2010 6:25 AM PST
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PrintWell good Monday morning to everyone. What a way to wake up this morning.
Let's get the official news out of the way. Mike Riley has told the Trojies to look somewhere else. He is staying in Corvallis:
Riley and the school agreed to a three-year contract extension that runs through the 2019 season.
"Due to the fact there is a lot of speculation on my future, I want to make it known that I’m very excited to be coaching at Oregon State University and I anticipate doing so for a long time," Riley said in a statement from the American Football Coaches Association convention in Orlando, Fla.
This doesn't surprise me at all. Mike Riley seems like someone who has too much class and integrity to waste his time at a sleaze factory like Southern Cal. He is not the only coach who is giving Trojies the Heisman pose:
Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher and Washington coach Steve Sarkisian already informed USC they weren't interested in the job. Jacksonville Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio is interested, but sources said USC officials have reservations about offering him the job. One reason could be Del Rio's lack of college coaching experience. USC also contacted former Kansas City Chiefs coach Herm Edwards, who was recommended by Syracuse athletic director Daryl Gross, who previously worked under athletic director Mike Garrett at USC. Edwards might be the most controversial choice because of his primarily NFL background. Sources said USC is worried it will run out of qualified candidates if Riley officially turns it down. The school has not yet shown interest in coaches such as Stanford's Jim Harbaugh, Boise State's Chris Peterson, Utah's Kyle Whittingham or TCU's Gary Patterson. That was from Scott Wolff, who was probably a little too punch drunk and delusional when typing up names such as Harbaugh, Patterson, Peterson, and Whittingham. The sense of desperation became a little clear later on his own blog. More on how bad it has gotten for the TrOJans after the flip.
Just how bad is it for the TrOJies? Well I think this tidbit from Wolf kind of gives it away:
My new recommendation is a DeWayne Walker/Norm Chow/Ed Orgeron troika in charge of USC football next season. Walker will be head coach/defensive coordinator, Chow will be associate head coach/offensive coordinator and Orgeron will be assistant head coach/recruiting coordinator. It only takes three phone calls and $1.5 million per coach.
Well here is our recommendation Scott. I'd bet we can find 3-4 volunteers here on Bruins Nation (who are well versed on their Xs and Os), who will take the U$C jobs. Everyone can take a salary in the range of 200gs and then finish burning it all down the ground in next 3-4 years. They can all do it at a cheaper rate than any of those guys in charge.
On a serious note though the fact that Wolf is already pining for assistants shows how desperate the Trojans are feeling this morning and how that job has probably become the most toxic position in college football. I will leave you with the following tasty bit for now(emphasis added):
As Caesar departs in his chariot for Seattle, an athletic dept. official said, ``this department is in flames.''
So sad. So so sad.
GO BRUINS.
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BURN. BABY, BURN -- TROJAN INFERNO!!!
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
LOVE IT!!!!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jan 11, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
CAPSLOCK!!!!
sorry, couldn’t resist. Nothing but rubble in a while! Sanctions next?
Who knew that the Trojan Horse's 'Arse that would lead to the Fall of Troy
is Chetey Petey himself? Who knows, maybe in the end we’ll find out he did it all for the love of a woman, I mean grad student. More likely though is his fear of the “gods” of the NCAA.
I wonder what Victor Davis Hanson would say.
GO BRUINS!
PS: I take no joy in the misery of others, only the fact that justice is finally being served, you reap what you sow and payback is such a “b*tch.”
ESPN ticker this morning
was suggesting that Bates and Norton (!) would both be following him to the Seahawks
oops
sorry, hadn’t read the 2nd home page post before commenting on the 1st…
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
Before we get too full of ourselves, we need to remember to think of others.
1.
That was a moment of silence for plaSChke.
2.
And for slimers.
3.
That was a longer moment of silence for Jill Painter. Last night, with the wind coming from the west, I could hear, very faintly, what sounded like heart-wrenching sobbing and a faint, "Oh, Petie, Petie, how could you leave me. I couldn’t tell if that was Jill or Matt. (You know, that Barkley is some quarterback, but I digress.
I guess all the speculation also means that just$c* won’t be filling its head coaching position with anyone in-house. Oh, wait. There’s no one left in-house. Sorry.
Señora Ross is available to coach
Her “students” can follow her to practice right after class.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
Another thought.
Is Cheatie taking Brendan with him? The answer to that question will show just exactly how much power Cheatie is being given.
Don't like the comments coming from Normie
He sounds like he is seriously considering heading back to SC. I wonder if there is something more to the rumors about him having a poor relationship with Neu.
Don't have time to hunt for links but
I read a few times/daily news stories where Chow was an emphatic “no comment”. This doesn’t mean he is leaving, but he is not going out of his way to say he is staying like Riley at OSU.
Classic Chow.
Chow, just a few weeks ago, when asked if he was coming back, said something cryptic like “check back next week” or something. When everybody started getting in a tizzy about it, he quietly went back to the athletic director’s office, and had them issue a small press release that he was planning to stay.
He likes to tweat the media a little, I think. Unfortunately, that doesn’t turn out well. I don’t want to characterize you as a worrymonger, but IMHO unless we get an official “Chow is leaving” I personally wouldn’t worry too much.
Go Bruins!
Any links? Would be very interested to hear any enw comments by NC.
Besides, I don’t know that NC, even if he just wanted the job for the sake of saying he was a HC before he ultimately retires, would want to take on the HC position at a school that would likely lose so many recruits with PC’s departure and/or the possibility of sanctions on the horizon.
Granted, if the school gets even a one-year ban on postseason play, a certain amount of pressure’s off, but who’d want to take a job knowing they’d be the lamest of lame ducks?
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Ms. M and I were talking...
… on our way home from church, and we both figure that now is the time for the alumni to pony up the extra $$$ to extend NC’s contract, so that way Kirk and Spock are happy and well-compensated for at least, oh, the next 5-7 years.
Just a thought.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
my sources
tell me that petey is asking the ncaa to waive the 3 year rule, which will allow him to draft barkley, who will then be named the starting quarterback of the seahawks ( tounge in cheek)
by bruinbornandraised on Jan 11, 2010 8:21 AM PST reply actions
If it's an NCAA rule
Why wouldn’t Cheatie just ignore it?
by bru79 on Jan 11, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is all very interesting --
but my joy will come when we beat sc on the playing field.
We laughed at all of the turmoil in their basketball program. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go into this game as favorites.
In a place where “moral victories” mean so little, I just don’t get the excitement over sc’s turmoil. I never needed any of this to know we were superior, we were doing it right and that they were not.
But, none of this matters if we are not successful in battle.
sjh
I respect that, 66.
However, I can’t help to enjoy watching at least a little of the Trojan arrogance come back and bite them, even if not on the field of play.
Nonetheless, I have compelte faith that CRN is doing everything he can — within reason AND the rules — to make sure that any recruits that wanted to come to L.A. and join an exciting, winning program have the best option of all still on the board.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
This is true
I’m glad to see SC’s turmoils, mostly because it means that we will have a much better chance, much sooner, of evening things out in football. Even if he had stayed, I felt like Neuheisel has been bringing our team into the right direction and, obviously, SC’s strong position in the Pac 10 was going to erode eventually (because that’s just how things work), so I am confident that over the next 3-6 years, it would have become a far more balanced rivalry (compared to the last 10 years). Now, though, I think that we could see the start of not just a return to balance but maybe even a little Bruin domination for a few years. That’s why I’m happy to see Carroll leave and to see a bit of chaos over at Heritage Hall. Because it’s a sign of good things to come…for UCLA!
by JoeBruin9900 on Jan 11, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
May be so but..
Joe,
Like ’66 says, I would wait until we beat them to truly uncork our joy.
Besides, if SC goes into the toilet because of a Tollner-esque coach and putrid recruiting and we start thumping them like we did in the 90s then who’s to stop the SC fans from using that as an excuse. Much like we would have done when the wethead was at the reins in Pauley.
..still, the schadenfreude is undeniably exhilarating!
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
definitely am more interested in how this helps us get better...
…e.g. by helping us in the recruiting wars, than I am in how it makes the $Cum worse.
I’d be perfectly happy for a cartoon villain like Steve Spurrier to show up in south central who could assemble a team with a decent record (on the field; not decent criminal record) and still be a figure of hatred, making victory over them doubly sweet. My least preferred option is for them to hire a genuinely likeable guy who makes the program a paragon of virtue off the field but a doormat on the field.
And honestly, if the $C game is our last or next to last each year, I’d rather it be a huge national game between two ranked teams than a potential hiccup for a good UCLA team against a bad $C team in which we have more to lose than them. I don’t want to see a 13-9 on the other foot with a bad $C team keeping us out of a BCS title game or Rose Bowl.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Speak for yourself
I don’t care about Trojans being good and having the Rose Bowl on the line for them when we play them. I’d like to see that program burned into the ground. It should be given what they have done during the Pete Carroll era.
I don’t want to see any “Bruin” come here and wax poetic about how they want SC to do “well.”
I am speaking for myself.
Speaking as someone who is more invested in UCLA doing well than in U$C doing badly, and knowing that big wins at the end of the season have an effect on whether our team goes to a BCS bowl, I would like our late season games to be of national interest.
Lobbying to move some other games to the end of the season (Oregon?) is fine with me if you want to give us the best exposure while $C languishes in obscurity. $C doing badly would also help our recruiting in LA and elsewhere, so maybe that is the best of all worlds.
On the satisfaction of beating them: I think I would get more personal satisfaction on a weekend when we beat down a self-important $C team than kicking an $C team that is on the floor; but then again I might get an even greater amount of additional enjoyment from the other 12 weeks of the season if $C is getting hammered every week. Meh.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
I don't care what you do
Don’t come here hoping for USC to have a good season (either directly or indirectly). You can do that somewhere else. Not here.
bb
Knock off the smart ass comments about how we want to run this site. I have already deleted couple of your comments. Next time you do it, you will be gone and not be missed. Thanks.
sorry about that
didn’t mean to keep pushing on a deleted comment; sometimes my browser fails to post (office firewall issue, I think), I wasn’t deliberately reposting.
Go Bruins.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
by which I mean
I deliberately reposted a comment that I thought hadn’t been posted; I didn’t deliberately repost a comment that I thought had been deleted for contravening community rules.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
also should clarify
that I think they should get everything coming to them regarding sanctions, in case that wasn’t clear. Though I also am annoyed that Cheatie is getting out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
agreed
I really wanted CRN to take Cheatie down. Although skipping town is fitting of his character, I was hoping that he would stick around long enough for us to slay the dragon, so to speak.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
true.
But this really should never have been about beating PC. It’s about beating USC. That, IMHO, is the dragon. I don’t care who their coach is. PC is irrelevant now to our purposes.
Go Bruins!
I agree
But, as another poster more eloquently stated, beating them without Cheatie allows for built in excuses, however invalid they may be. Cheatie may not have been a good X’s and 0’s coach, but he was a perfect slimy fit for SC. He was the centerpiece of everthing wrong at SC, and now he has gone into hiding. I know that beating SC is the goal, but I equally despite Cheatie and everything he has stood for over the past few years.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
That is such BS
It’s like us saying U$C only beat us because we had Toledo and Dorrell. Oh wait, he got beat by Dorrell. LOLOL!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 11, 2010 7:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think it's BS at all.
I’m pretty sure the sentiment around here is that if we had a better coach than Dorrell, SC wouldn’t have won so many of the games.
At any rate, all I was saying is that I wanted to see CRN beat SC with Cheatey leading the thugs. Cheatey has been the figurehead of the program, and beating him would have been a great moment IMO.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 12, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
I'm saying
that the built in excuses are BS.
And I too wanted to see CRN destroy Cheatey fair and square, because it WAS going to happen anyway and it would have been even sweeter.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
This is not just taking joy in the turmoil at SUC
This is a wakeup call for all delusional trOJies that the wrong-doing taking place at their school were not just pipe dreams made up by Bruins in an attempt to explain the lop-sided rivalry the last 11 years. Instead, we are finally on the cusp of having legitimate sanctions to point to as proof that their school is a bunch of cheaters. No longer will we need to reference the laundry list of violations and embarrassments associated with the trOJies as they respond smugly that we Bruins are just making it all up and if the claims were substantiated, the NCAA would surely have acted. Because of this, I take great joy in the unraveling of such an unethical program. And the results on the field will surely follow.
by rgalloucla on Jan 11, 2010 9:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can't figure out how to edit...
When I say “Even if he had stayed…”, I obviously mean Carroll. The subsequent statement makes it sound like I’m talking about Neuhesiel doing the departing.
That USC coaching search is going to be very telling, IMO
Even the threat and whisper of sanctions is likely to scare off most big-name candidates. I think Del Rio is probably the most likely choice for the Trojans – it will be very difficult for them to pry a big-name college coach from another program, given all the controversy swirling around the program. Even ignoring the fact if the NCAA does somehow manage to not levy any penalties, the fact that the rumors are out there are enough to scare off plenty of folks.
Del Rio’s in trouble in Jacksonville, so it may make logical sense for him to look towards the USC opportunity as a way to bail, either before or after he gets canned. I’m not entirely certain what to think of Del Rio if that is who the Trojans ultimately target. I can’t say I’d be too terribly worried about having Del Rio as the coach of the Trojans. We’ll see, though.
The most interesting part about Del Rio
Is that if they wait for him to get fired, they may be wating a while. It seems like it would be in JDR’s best interest to get fired and then hired by SUC – maximize his buyout in Jacksonville.
Unfortunately, for the Trojies, the longer the HC position is in flux, the worse the implications for their recruiting.
Personally, I’d love to see a sloppy, drawn out search where eventually they get stuck with Steve Lavin.
Three-headed monster
Walker will be head coach…, Chow will be associate head coach… and Orgeron will be assistant head coach…
I’m no management consultant, but this strikes me as completely bonkers.
more obviously completely bonkers
than interviewing Walker, Chow and CRN for our head coaching job and having the two ‘less preferred’ HC candidates as assistants?
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
I mean
I think it was good for us as a ‘start-up’, but obvious that we wouldn’t be able to keep the three together for long given DW’s ambitions.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Key difference -- who's in the big chair/ hot seat?
With us, we were talking about keeping guys in their most natural fits —
HC — CRN, as he had the most HC experience.
DW — DC, as that’s where he had the most success.
NC — OC, ‘only’ one of the greatest of all-time.
But $C? Let me get this straight…
DW — Ripping him from one year at a new school as HC to take over?
NC — Asking him to be HC at a school on the way down due to departing coaching talent and possibly recruits AND sanctions?
EO — as DC?
Not the cleanest or most stable fit, IMO.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
I don't think just$c* needs any help from us
Remember, guys, the guy choosing the next head coach may well be Garrett. He’s the guy who went with the “win at any cost, never mind the ncaa sanctions” approach, which was pretty good in the short run but which may have a terrible toll.
Also remember, that any idea posted here, no matter how stupid (accidently stupid or intentionally stupid) is likely to be more intelligent than anything emanating from the just$c* campus. Remember the old truism – a kid flunked out of UCLA, enrolled at just$c*, and raised the GPA’s at both schools.
No help for the trOJies, please, unless it’s to facilitate confessions.
good point
I will neither contribute suggestions that might be valuable, nor elicit valuable suggestions from other people through my own inane comments…
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
not saying the $C situation would make any sense whatsoever
but from an ego standpoint, we were asking NC and DW to accept playing second banana to a guy in CRN who was coming back in from the wilderness at the only school apparently willing to give him a second chance as a HC after his ‘scandals’ in his two former gigs; and to play second banana at a school at which they thought they had the qualifications and talent to be head coach.
I agree our situation made infinitely more sense from a natural fit perspective. $C’s situation is also different in that they are presumably looking for some long-term stability rather than jump-starting a program; they still have more in the cupboard now than we had when CRN took over from Karl Dorrell.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
anyone notice...
…that Sark and Cheatie will be in the same town? Wonder if they will get drinks after work…you know, just to chit chat about football and how much fun it was to burn Troy to the ground.
I have the solution for SC
Their search for a coach is over. I am willing to take the job as the new head coach of the usc football program.
Oh! RESUME you ask… well if you must know, I have won ten straight national titles on EA’s NCAA Football 2006. How is that for a resume. Lets get the news out of my availability.
Have you mastered
the popping of ketchup-colored bubbles, which earn you special tools and weapons, such as SUV and house giveaways?
It's a great day in LA
Run Pete run! Couldn’t happen to a better "university’. I can’t help this giddy feeling. I was sick of seeing the guy’s face. I can’t wait for National signing day.
Go Bruins!
Garrett not doing the hiring?
Anybody else hear the buzz that Garrett might get his wings clipped and either be gone?
What are Hacket and or Tollner doing these days?
Go Bruins
TRM
Actually, the longer this takes the more worried I would get
After all, SC’s immediate candidates are always underwhelming. I would much, much rather have seen Riley or Sarkisian or Del Rio already take the job then wonder now about whether they’ll be “falling back” on Petersen (rumor right now) or Whittingham or some other real deadly coach. No matter what the sanction threats are, the money and potential and current talent of the program makes it a plum job, so I think SC’s “misses” are probably all to their benefit.
The Chow reports are pretty strong — that old guard wants him back as OC and will pay top dollar. If we’re interested in keeping him, we should be working on an extension right now.
If they want to really be CLEAN. they'd go after Ty W. or (shudder) KD.
And if that happens, I might fall out of my chair laughing.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Overheard in Orange County
I was walking in Corona Del Mar, a pretty strong bastion of trOJandom, on Saturday.
First, as I was meeting a friend on the sidewalk, I raised my arms in victory and told him loudly “Cheatey’s gone baby!”. This lady in her workout spandex, sitting on a bench in front of Starbucks with her poodle on a leash (I kid you not), felt the need to say to me, with utter disgust and disdain: “Well don’t get your panties in a bunch!”. BWAHAHAHA! I literally skipped away, singing “down goes the ty-rant, down goes the ty-rant”.
On the same day, my friend ran into a wealthy and influential trOJan alum, who said that they were going after Jon Gruden. Interesting choice, I think his fiery personality would do well in college, but I believe he would go back to the NFL before the excrement pit in South Central.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I would love for them to get Gruden
He’s a horrible coach, really. Mentally, he’s just another CTS, loving as he does the West Coast Offense. And if he’s a good at spotting high school talent to recruit as he was in spotting college talent to draft, we will have nothing to fear.
Incidentally, Tasser, I don’t think I would do any skipping and singing. It’s, well …. it’s a little …. Uh, it makes me think you’re about to take up figure skating. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) Sorry, but I’ve been hanging out at Double T Nation regarding the Coach Leach fiasco, and I’m gittin’ a bit red-necked. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, either.)
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