Los Angeles Times Working Over Time To Help Cheatey Petey To Spin His Way To Seattle
by Nestor on Jan 11, 2010 10:54 AM PST
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PrintWell the headline is of course kind of a no brainer. Meriones already destroyed Bill Plaschke for his pathetic attempt to spin Pete Carroll's cowardly escape to Seattle. Now it looks like Cheatey Petey is officially using the LA Times to get his talking points out on why he is leaving behind a pile of rubble that is his scandal ravaged program.
Garry Klein, the Trojan lapdog beatwriter for LAT, who has dutifully cut and pasted Petey's talking points all those years stepped up this am posting Petey's parting comments on why he is high tailing out of Los Angeles:
"I had given up on it," he said during a phone interview early this morning, "but it came out of nowhere."
Yeah sure Petey. You have given up on it? LOL. Yeah, I am sure you never get NFL offers (the boilerplate ones without total control) and weren't expecting it in the coming years. Whatever you say. I am sure it was those Angels descending down from heaven to come up with this offer to wreck another NFL franchise "out of nowhere". Okay. More on LAT's shameless Petety spin after the jump.
Baghdad Bob, I mean Klein then went on to cut and paste the following from Petey:
Carroll said his decision to leave was not influenced by the specter of possible NCAA sanctions that could result from an investigation of allegations that Reggie Bush and his family accepted improper benefits while the Heisman Trophy winner was playing for the Trojans in 2004 and 2005.
"Not in any way," Carroll said. "Because I know where we stand. It's just a process we have to go through. We know we've fought hard to do right."
Uh hum. Yeah, Petey has done it "right" for those who live in the delusional and shameless world of Bill Splashme. The Pete Carroll press release adds this:
But before he begins a transition back to the NFL, where he last worked in 1999, Carroll will meet today with USC players at Heritage Hall.
"By far the most difficult thing is leaving the young guys that just came into the program and just started," he said.
Soooo difficult that the players had to be informed via text message. LOL
So you can get a sense of what will be Petey and his lapogs spin will be for next 24-48 hours. This spin is already being broadcast all over ESPN this am without any kind of perspective or reality check on why Pete Carroll is jumping off what looks to be a sinking ship for just another NFL offer. It's not surprising at all considering what we have seen from these shameless lapdogs in last 7-8 years, but still sickening to watch (and read). Interestingly this time around even lot of Trojans are not falling for Petey's and his lap dogs PR lines.
GO BRUINS.
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I agree with 82
I don’t care all that much either.
Sort of reminds me of the old Yogi-ism
Nobody goes to that restaurant — it’s too crowded.
Why on earth would you bother to post on a subject you don’t care about? (Now excuse me, I have to go post on the John and Kate website, and on the Real Housewives of West Covina website, and ….)
I love Kate's new hairdo
I only know because it was on the home page of Yahoo. I swear!
I haven’t heard about the Real Housewives of West Covina. When does it air? Are they hot? I’m intrigued. Forget carroll and suc news. Lol
Obviously, they cared enough to read and post here. This is big news and will affect UCLA in terms of recruiting for years to come. I’m sure CRN and staff will capitalize this opportunity to bring us back to the glory days
Yes, you got it!
I care enough to read and post here. I care more about how this directly affects us, not so much about them. That kind of information is what I hope to find when I read the posts.
Real Houses Wives of West Covina, now that is new worthy.
I see your point. But
what happens over there does directly affect us over here. UCLA-u$c are interlinked and intertwined.
We are always interlinked but not always directly afftected..
Indirectly yes. Don’t get me wrong, this is great news but we have so many issues with ourselves to deal with that need immediate attention/ focus.
Just my two cents. Different strokes for different folks.
No ones stopping you from posting about those issues then
If your posts are substantial, breaking, and relevant, they will get attention. If you’re here to just complain about coverage though, then I’ll just tell you what I tell every other person before who has complained about what or how something has been written here without having any intention of rectifying the situation themselves: Goodbye.
Huh?
No complaining here. Just a difference of opinion and replying as to why I read BN. Nothing more, nothing less.
Look, Nestor, if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times.
I’m not interested in this stuff, and I’m not posting about it. In fact, I think I have told you a thousand times that I’m not posting about this stuff because I’m not interested.
'I don’t care all that much either' does not equal no interest
It just means my interest is considerably less than all yours. Is that possible, not to feel the exact same way as you guys? And why can’t I state that here on this blog?
I am required to say something ‘substantial, breaking, and relevant’ in order to comment. Not true if you read most of these comments here.
I think you are missing the point.
I don’t agree with a lot on here, and I say so when I have a point to make. This string was in response to you saying that you didn’t care without making any point whatsoever. Only after being called on it did you make your point that what happens at SC does’t directly affect us. Had you started with that, the dialogue would have been different.
There is no requirement to say something substantial, but posting that you don’t care is a waste of everyone’s time, including your own.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
You missed the very first post, which is what I was responding to..
It has since been deleted. But point taken.
this is very common in the blogosphere
I especially love it when people post “First!” Wow, what a great contribution.
If you call yourself a UCLA fan and you are unfazed by a top, rival coach leaving their program (in shambles), then you are probably not much of a fan. No offense to all non-fans out there ;)
This is huge for any bruins fan! The fall of troy are you kidding, the timing just makes it sweeter. And I believe Ted miller the PAC 10 blogger on the wwl said we have the most to gain from this. This weekend Riley came and is now seriously considering ucla and zumait completley has written $c off it’s between us and Stanford
Today is such a great day!
Just the look on all the $uc grads here at work is priceless! Of course I’m not rubbing it in…. Hahahaha What a great day to be a Bruin!
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011110aaa.html
Guess it’s official.
Aaron Corp
Aaron Corp is the one that I feel sorry for. The way he was treated by classless Pete. Petey knew, probably before Aaron transferred out of $c, that he was taking the job in Seattle. You think he could have told Corp to stay or at least tell him that Petey was leaving and maybe he would have a chance at the QB position. What an arrogant, ignorant,classless SOB. I know Matt B. is also wondering what he is going to do now that “dad” is leaving for Seattle. Maybe Pom Pom will find a way to take his cabana boy with him. I feel for the guys that stay behind – although why they picked to go to SCumbag U. is a real question!!!
by Forever a Bruin on Jan 11, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions
Nope. Nope. Huh-uh.
You might feel sorry for Corp, but not me. The only way he could not know known what was going on at that campus was if he were brain dead, and if he were brain dead he wouldn’t have been offered a scholarship. (He could have aced all his classes of course, but he couldn’t have memorized the playbook.)
He voluntarily, willingly, happily, press-conference-ly went to just$c*. He knew first hand what the program in general and what Cheatie in particular was like before he agreed to go there.
This is the exact equivalent of the guy who murdered his parents asking for leniency because he’s an orphan.
Corp got out, so I salute him for that, just as I salute anyone who sincerely asks for forgiveness of a past sin. But sympathy for his plight – nosiree. Maybe someone else, but not me.
I don't feel sorry for Corp either.
Face it, he wasn’t a very good QB regardless of how he was rated coming out of high school. Corp found himself in the same situation as Chris Forcier – buried on the depth chart with no real chance, other than injuries, to see the field. The way he was treated by Petey probably made it easier to leave. But, if he really thinks he has a future in football, his only option would be to transfer.
Curious about Norm Chow and others...
Petey’s gone…GREAT!!!
This is so similar to the Titanic, there’s a great big gash on the side of the ship and the first officer (Pete Carroll) abandons ship leaving the captain (Mike Garrett) to sink with everyone left on board.
But I digress,
what I’m really curious about is Norm Chow, what will he do next? Stay, leave, does it matter? I also read somewhere that Ken Norton is following Pete to Seattle, can anyone verify? Should we care?
Look up our previous posts on Chow
and the links that go with it. Should give you the answer. It’s a topic we have discussed enough and unless we see news from credible source we are not going to go over it over and over again. Look info up here before asking questions. Thanks.
ESPN (and others) reported on Norton
that he was going as linebackers coach to the Seahawks
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Petey was more like the owner ...
who dressed like a woman so he could sneak off the Titanic.
by Gen2Bruin1987 on Jan 11, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is one of the weirdest coaching debacle I've seen
but then again I’ve only watched college football for 3-4 years.
Usually when a coach is about to depart the priority is to find a replacement or possible candidates. The candidate can be in-house staff promotion or outside candidates. And it’s very important to secure the recruits. Walker’s backers argue that he would save the recruiting class once KD left. Brian Kelly was offered to help secure the recruits and set up base. It’s clear that the school is the priority.
But so far all we’ve heard is all Petey Petey Petey Petey. Sure there are concerns about recruits jumping off and other coach candidates. But what have they done to reach out? Text messages? Ridiculous.
A part of me is glad that classless pete is leaving
but another part of me is not so glad. I was really looking forward to seeing his look when CRN opened up a can of whoop ass on him and his princess (matt b.) at the rose bowl. Oh well, the victory at the Rose Bowl this year will be a good one.
And now former USC baseball player Mark McGuire admits to steroid use
This is NOT been a good year for them.
Go Bruins!
Off topic..
But who would have thought Jose Canseco was telling the truth?
Uh-huh
He told Costas that studying pitchers and making his swing shorter led to his increase in home runs and that he could have hit them without PEDs.
“I truly believe so,” McGwire said. “I believe I was given this gift. The only reason I took steroids was for health purposes.”
Does the mere act of attending $c make one stupid, or does $c attract the stupid?
Cheatey's "success"
Just wanted to throw a little more jet fuel on the fire. Allow me to rant a little and to throw some facts and comments out there.
I’m really tired of hearing about how “successful” Cheatey was at $C. In terms of pure wins and losses, he was extremely successful. But if I broke all the rules I could and used players who had no business being on the field, I probably would be successful, too. Keep in mind that Reggie “Free House” Bush won a Heisman, meaning that he was the best college football player in America. Do you think Cheatey might have won a few (or many) games just because he had him? What if Cheatey and $C played by the rules and Bush was not allowed to play? Do you think it’s possible Cheatey would have been less successful? I think so.
Let’s look at McKnight as just one example of how Cheatey became so “successful.” All quotes are from this past Saturday’s LAT, all emphasis is mine, and no links for you:
McKnight was considered a blue-chip prospect in high school, and he created a stir at the news conference to announce his college choice when he told reporters he had talked to Bush on a conference call with USC Coach Pete Carroll while being recruited.
Such an arrangement might have constituted a violation of NCAA rules, but McKnight’s high school coach later claimed the running back misspoke and USC officials have declined to provide details of the outcome of their investigation into the matter.
So $C investigated this little $candal—which happened three years ago, I believe—apparently completed its investigation (there is an “outcome”) but they won’t provide details. Um, excuse me, but if you are totally innocent, wouldn’t you just say, Cheatey and Bush were at Disneyland together and neither called anyone on this date and McKnight really was misstaken? Instead, they “declined to provide details.” I wonder why. That doesn’t sound like they are cooperating in any NCAA investigations, does it?
Moving on to the latest $candal:
McKnight told The Times that the Land Rover was owned by his girlfriend’s boss and insisted he had never driven it. [Note: The LAT has repeatedly called out McKnight on this blatant lie.] A USC spokesman later said that McKnight was “mistaken” in his comments and had previously reported to the school that he was using the vehicle.
Uh-huh. McKnight sure “mis-speaks” a lot. $C’s got his back on this one but keep in mind that Cheatey lobbied $C hard to let McKnight play in the Nut Bowl. Very simply, he wanted to use a player who probably broke the rules big-time because he, McKnight, would help $C win the game. Nevermind those pesky rules.
And for some comic relief, the latest lie:
McKnight said USC’s investigation had no bearing on his decision to begin a professional career. “I didn’t decide to go [pro] because of that,” he said.
Feel free to laugh as long as you want at that one.
Sorry for the long rant. It’s just a little tiring when guys like Cheatey who don’t play by the rules are glorified as “winners.”
Yep
Pete Carroll made a deal with the devil circa 2002 and now it has come time to pay up. Instead of taking his licks, however, he is scurrying off to the NFL.
I am pretty convinced that everything we have heard about the program in the last several years, from Bush, to Jarrett, to McKnight, etc, is only the tip of the iceberg of what actually went on behind the scenes. There were likely countless infractions that occurred that will probably never be reported.
I would have been interesting to see SUC languish under Carroll’s leadership, once the sanctions kicked in and Neuheisel had a chance to resurrect our program. No matter, though, we will put this forgettable decade behind us and forge a successful foundation built the right way.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
One more take on Cheatie's "success"
Remember the typical just$c* fan’s response to accusation that there is institutionally approved and condoned cheating going on. Generally excuse number two is “Hey, everyone does it.” (Number one excuse is kill the messenger.) Let’s assume that the hyperbole means really that the just$c* fan thinks that some other teams do it, and let’s assume, hypotheticlly, that the other team was not a big school, but a Small Medium University (“SMU”).
If just$c* actually chose not to cheat, the touted recruits would soon know this, either because they would be told flat out that there would be no cheating or because the word in the recruiting grapevine was that Cheatie didn’t cheat and wouldn’t put up with it. The prize recruit would continue to look around, and pretty soon SMU would come calling and would dangle big rewards. Well, even a trOJie can figure out that recruits with the moral sensibilities of a bu$h or a Jarrett or a McSUV would go to SMU instead of just$c. But we’re in the real world, not in a hypothetical world, and in the real world Cheatie cheated all he could.
In the real world, Cheatie’s “success” was as a direct result of his cheating. just$c* was a middle of the pack team before Cheatie got here with his middle of the pack coaching record when the playing field was level. Then he tilted the playing field by blatantly cheating.
That’s the Carroll legacy. Cheating. Make no mistake about it — if Cheatie had played fair, he wouldn’t have had the great winning records. He won because he cheated. The only difference between Cheatie and Timmeh is that Cheatie had more intermediaries between him and the actual payments to the players. But both of them paid the players as surely as God made trOJan fans arrogant. Without the cheating, Cheatie Petie is just average. That’s what his record has demonstrated.
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