Getting Uglier: Pete Carroll & Southern Cal Get Rocked By New Drug Scandal
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I had a feeling it was going to get uglier this am. Had no idea things were going to get this ugly this fast.
SI.com just posted a brand new disturbing story about former assistant football coach of Pete Carroll name Dave Watson. The title of the article reads, "Carroll knew about coach's drug addiction before car crash." Uh yeah. These is shocking stuff:
[Dave] Watson also confirmed under oath what those closest to him already knew: that he had developed a significant addiction to painkillers since his college playing career in the 1990s. When asked where he had received his prescriptions while coaching at USC, Watson gave the names of 12 doctors associated with the university, six of whom were team doctors for USC football. Watson had already provided the court extensive documentation of these prescriptions, including dates, drug names and pill amounts.
Finally, when asked if he had ever notified a supervisor of his addiction, Watson said yes, he had told his boss and mentor, Carroll, in February 2008, three months before the car accident.
This latest revelation moved Valentin's [54-year-old Alaric Valentin involved in car crash with Watson] attorneys to argue that Carroll is partly responsible for his injuries, pointing out in a letter to USC's counsel that Carroll "is the direct supervisor of Mr. Watson ... had actual notice of Mr. Watson's prescription pill addiction, actual notice that Mr. Watson was using a car provided for work use by USC, [and] actual notice of the fact that USC team doctors were writing the prescriptions for the drugs to which Mr. Watson was addicted, and nonetheless continued to allow Mr. Watson to use the company car."
Got your attention. It gets lot worse (at least in terms of optics) for Pete Carroll and Southern California Trojans. More eyepopping details after the jump.
Apparently Mr. Watson "embodied" Carroll's "always compete" philosophy while he was at U$C*:
USC's newest graduate assistant endeared himself to the players, who called him Coach Sweaty because his shirt was always soaked. That nickname endured through Watson's promotion to full-time defensive line coach in 2006, along with his habit of bounding around the practice field with an energy that defied his bum knee, foot, and ailing back. Watson proved adept at selling Carroll's "always compete" philosophy to recruits because he embodied it so thoroughly himself.
However, the breakup hasn't been pretty:
Carroll fired Watson a year ago this week after the Trojans capped a 12-1 season with a Rose Bowl win over Penn State. Watson, who had taken a brief leave of absence after the car accident and returned to coach the Trojans' defensive line throughout the season, was told by Carroll that he was "too hard on the players, too demanding," according to Watson.
Watson did not accept that as the real reason for his dismissal -- then, or today. His past addiction was no longer a secret. He was let go just four months after The Los Angeles Times published a feel-good story about his road to recovery in which Carroll said, "He's operating at his very best. It's great to see him feeling good." Nevertheless, Watson's abrupt firing gave the impression of a program who wanted Watson, his drug problem, and his messy car wreck to go away. (Last week, USC sports information director Tim Tessalone declined an e-mail request to interview Carroll and six team doctors, stating "the people you list cannot comment" before directing SI.com to the university's legal counsel. That office had not responded to SI.com as of Monday afternoon.)
The story is long and it has lots of eye popping details including this:
It hasn't been easy for Watson to testify about Carroll, whom he still reveres. (Watson said he hasn't spoken with Carroll since January 2009, yet he got choked up when asked about their relationship, calling Carroll "my mentor, a great man.") Although Carroll fired him, and despite USC's efforts to place all blame for the crash on Watson, Watson recently expressed his need to "protect the team" -- the first of Carroll's three cardinal team rules.
I wonder if any of the lapdogs from Los Angeles traditional media will ask him with a straight face what are the real reasons for him escaping U$C*? Now you wonder why the Trojans are firing at each other and lashing out at Petey. Something is very wrong with this picture and we sure hope someone in the traditional media gets to the bottom of this.
Pete Carroll will have his last presser in about an hour. Let's make this an open thread.
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I just read that piece...
All I can is “wow.”
I mean, really? This program is linked to houses, cars, drugs, strippers, date rape drugs, assault and battery…. MURDER. What else goes on at that “university”.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions
...
Not shocked. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Far more will come out.
Can we get another newspaper at the press conference?
I sure hope the LAT dont overtake the whole thing and maybe some other interviewers can ask cheaty petey some tough questions
The timing is interesting, to say the least.
According to the article, the ncaa had written to just$c* advising that the investigation was complete. This letter was apparently at just$c* BEFORE Seattle called out of the blue to offer Cheatie everything he wanted, right down to the house at Malibu complete with all the accessories.
A great trial lawyer told me to always let the jury connect the last dot, and I suppose this works for press conferences, too:
Q: So Cheatie, you have gotten lots of job offers from the NFL?
A: Yes
Q: But none gave you all the control you needed?
A: That’s right.
Q: And none of fhose offers came after the ncaa sent a letter saying it had finished its investigation, right?
A: Yes, that’s right.
Q: And then Seattle called.
A: Yes
Q: And that offer was the dream offer?
A.: Yep
Q: And it was the only offer you got after the ncaa’s letter:
A: Yep
Q: No further questions.
Q:
WOW!
No evidence has been produced in the civil suit to indicate that the university knew of Watson’s drug problem when he was hired, or at any time before his alleged conversation with Carroll in February 2008. Evidence has surfaced, however, that in the three months between February ’08 and his car crash, Watson was prescribed a total of 1,680 tablets of pain medication.
Nice
His liver couldn’t handle that much acetominephen, Watson was probably selling some on the side or just keeping a large stash of pills.
As corrupt as that whole regime was...
it seems plausible that they were using this guy’s legit prescriptions to possibly funnel drugs to other people in the program (people who may not have had legit reasons or prescriptions), perhaps even players.
Easy money and faithless women, red-eye whiskey for the pain...
Sounds crazy, but your body can build up amazing levels of tolerances.
I played with a guy that would literally chew pills by the mouthful.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
sad story for Watson and the victim
the doctors should be fired for their failure in care.
Maybe
More likely is that the people involved will get a visit from the State Board of Consumer Affairs regarding the prescriptions an there medical need in this case.
I guess in some ways
it is the system that failed, rather than individual doctors, if they really don’t have a system that keeps track of who is being prescribed what.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
they do
Every narcotic that gets prescribed or filled is tracked. Both by patient and each physicians DEA number. I just think the state is so overwhlemed with other things, this area at the moment isn’t on top of the list.
I bet Watson used different names, pharmacies, and other techniques to also skate by the system. I’m also curious how many scripts/total number of pills each doctor at SC prescribed him.
truly a sad story
although I take some pleasure in watching the OJan Karma coming back to hit them, there is no positives from a story like this. Obviously people were put in danger as long as this guy was useful. Enabling a known addict, and using sc’s medical resources to do so is a sickening charge. DUI’s are serious and a responsible employer (Chetey in this case) would have ensured the resources would have been used to help with treatment.
This is like mafia stuff, keeping someone dependent on your program and having a mantra of “protect the team” as a Cardinal rule.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Is anyone planing on posting relevant portions/summary for those of us at work?
It would be greatly appreciated.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
"really important to me how we work together"
“we have had fun together”
talking about the Trojan beat writers. ROFL.
ah i see this is the open thread
we were laughing about his “at least I graduated” shot at sanchez lol
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
perfect
Had ESPN paused on the DVR. McGwire needs to get out of the news and keep more attention on $C directly related to Carroll.
I think he broke the story today to protect the football
its a massive conspiracy! lol
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
other way round, I think
in the classic quote, “A good day to bury bad news”
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
talking about the schools relationship with the LAPD lol...
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
or to keep protecting the
players that break the law
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Never leaving his foundation
because one day, players will be able to go straight from high school to the pros, so I need to keep that recruiting pipeline open
Unbelievable
How Pete can completely screw his underlings by being an enabler and then firing them, yet they still get choked up about him. What a bunch of lemmings.
Cheatie
…gives phony a bad name. He’s coming back to Southern California “to keep this thing going?”. Right!
by TfXc79 on Jan 11, 2010 3:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
sounded like he named his wife and kids
but I didn’t catch the name, so maybe he was referring to a pet poodle or something.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
"unforgettable" & "heavy" relationship with "his players"
“I like it like that”
That’s what he is saying. Not me.
These soft ball questions...
are going to make me THROW UP.
Won’t someone ask him about the NCAA notice of allegations?
Who thinks Matt Barkley
is standing oof to the side, teary-eyed and ready to fling himself upon Petey as he starts walking away
for those who can't watch
you can listen in la on am 710
He's got to be on something stronger
He said he hasn’t slept in days. Maybe those suc doctors prescribe some pills for him
"the decision to leave the university was difficult"
translation: “I didn’t have to think twice about it.”
Agree
With Cheatie that U$C is an “unbelievable university.”
by TfXc79 on Jan 11, 2010 3:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The applause at the end tells you everything you need to know about that press conference
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Jan 11, 2010 3:35 PM PST reply actions
Doesn't sound like it was a press conference.
More like a spin.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
there you go. We can call it a spin conference
Troy is burning
by bruinbasketball on Jan 11, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
There wasn't one question about NCAA scandals
Or the drug stuff that broke this afternoon. Just ridiculous.
Utter disgrace.
I can’t believe that one person wouldn’t ask a tough question. Not a single person with a shred of integrity in that room.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
the one question asked about the scandals was prefaced with "c'mon, Pete, scout's honor"
Disgustingly deferential.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
he still felt the need
to give matt barkley one more verbal bj. lmao
Great piece
I think Woods is probably the strongest commit they have at this point. Paul Richardson needs to work some magic on his HS teammate. We need to soften their top recruits on SUC and land a few over here in Westwood.
this isn't nearly so good
I am just entertained by the picture of the guy writing it. Looks like a Petey acolyte…
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
The WWL's
First live-televised circle jerk.
by TfXc79 on Jan 11, 2010 3:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions
ESPN is showing a Matt Barkley interview
and I literally punched the TV. I can’t wait to see that kid spend all afternoon in the Rose Bowl in his ass
by Sideout11 on Jan 11, 2010 3:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
But back to the subject at hand...
I am not entirely sure what to make of this drug story. Specifically, it seems to me like the plaintiffs in some lawsuit want to be able to attach to SC’s deep pockets in order to win more money. I’m not really convinced that Pete Carroll did something truly wrong here, so I’m having a hard time lumping this in with the other reasons why a lot of folks don’t like him/why SC athletics might be seeing some big trouble in the future.
If Cheatey knew that Watson was addicted to painkillers and allowed him to use the company car, there is a strong argument for negligence. Add the fact that six USC team doctors prescibed Watson medications, and you have a serious problem.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 11, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
from the damning testimony, all you have is a guy answering yes to a question as to whether he ever told anyone that he might have a problem, without any follow up questions like "did you tell him how much of a problem you had, how many pills you were popping? etc.
Sounded like he tried to give the guy an opportunity to sort himself out (offer of better treatment for the causes of the pain etc). Definitely a poor decision in retrospect, but the sort of poor decision people make all the time with regards friends and relatives. Admittedly he was in a position of responsibility, but I would blame the people prescribing the meds – or the system that lets all those doctors prescribe him drugs without any communication amongst them – as the larger problem. I am curious as to whether there is a ’don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy with the doctors? I think that a story about how the team jeopardized player health by deliberately cycling in additional doctors (if there were somehow some advantage to doing so) woyld be a much bigger scandal.
And I am equally skeptical about the plaintiff going after the money. I would guess that their first hope was that $C would settle quietly out of court.
by britishbruin on Jan 11, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
This isn't news...
P-USC has had a drug culture for years…remember Brandon Ting ?
The Ting brothers had steroids provided by their own father.
Did anyone know if they got into med school? I remember the whole deal about them quitting football to concentrate on their med school applications and their study. Then a week later, thesteroid use came out.
Are we sure
this presser wasn’t staged by FEMA?
I swear this is true
I was strolling my 6. Month old daughter to sleep, and had some easy listening music channel on. When she fell asleep, I changed the channel to ESPNews to see the Cheatey presser…and she started crying. So I started over, put the music on, she fell asleep, I put on Petey again, and she started crying again! I kid you not! I wonder if it was his voice or the smell of sulfur from his podium…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 11, 2010 5:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Her blue and gold blood make her smarter than other babies
My little guy has already showed the same characteristics.
by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 11, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
A couple of facts about the lawsuit which you might think are interesting.
I looked up the two lawyers mentioned in the article. Bruce Schechter is with Hollins, Schechter. They are a good firm, and do a lot of work for State Farm. I don’t know if they are actually State Farm’s captive counsel, but I do know they do a lot of work for them. I had a case against them years ago, and they are very good and very thorough. That’s not to say the lawyers I dealth with were hateful, nasty people, because they were not. It’s just that I had no easy days working against them. Sort of like playing against Coach Howland’s defense when it was running on all cylinders and at full speed. FYI, if Bruce Schechter is actually working the case full time, his undergrad degree is from ASU.
I don’t know the plaintiff’s lawyer, Ira Fierberg. He’s been a member of the bar for 20 years, according to the State Bar attorney search website. Get this though – his undergraduate degree is from
wait for it
wait for it
UCLA.
I don’t think we have to worry that Cheatie Petie might get a free pass.
I wonder if he would like any volunteer help getting ready for Cheatie’s depo?
Wow
Is all I can say. Just incredible.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jan 12, 2010 4:29 AM PST reply actions

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