After Cheatey: Trojans Down To Fourth Choice, Eying Kiffin While UCLA Emerging As "Place To Be"
Obviously the lead story today is Mike Garrett desperately going after Jack Del Rio from Jacksonville Jaguars (after pathetically striking out with Mike Riley, Jeff Fisher and (even (really?)) Steve Sarkasian (LOL)). The reports on whether he will stay in Jacksonville and be in position to collect at least $15 million or come to a nuked program facing NCAA sanctions are conflicting. However, I found the following tidbit from Wolf's report on Jack Del Rio very tasty (emphasis added throughout):
If hired, Del Rio would fit USC's choice of an NFL coach with a defensive background. His hiring, though, would also show that the search didn't cover many candidates. Sources said Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin was under consideration Monday and former Kansas City Chiefs coach Herm Edwards was contacted to gauge his interest but wasn't a serious candidate. Lane Kiffin at Heritage Hall will be a dream come true. Now going back to Del Rio, Jon Gold breathlessly "broke" the news about Trojies not just going after Del Rio but putting together a package deal that would bring in former Notre Dame defensive Jon Tenuta. Well I didn't have interest in doing any thorough analysis on Tenuta but I took a cursory look at my two favorite Fighting Irish blogs. More on what I found and other notes after the jump.
Here is the Tenuta flavor from Rakes Of Mallow following ND's home loss against Pittsburgh (that sealed Charlie's fate in South Bend):
I still feel like Weis has gotten a bit of a raw deal in the luck standpoint, at least when it comes to defensive coordinator. He's made his own bed with the atrocious special teams over the years - don't even look at the punting numbers from last night, you'll want to punt something through a window yourself - but Jon Tenuta has been such a colossal failure it's hard to even fathom it. The defense might as well not be out there most plays, as they just sort of wait for a pass to fall incomplete or a running back to trip at the line, biding their time between allowing long touchdowns. The blitzes are laughably ineffective and the next time a defensive back not named Kyle McCarthy makes a play on the ball will be the first this season.
Ouch. Another analysis from Jay at Blue Gray Sky on Tenuta coached defense's performance following Irish's loss against Navy wasn't pretty:
Put this (loss to Navy) on Tenuta and Brown (and Weis) for not reacting quickly enough: our players were flailing to cover, alternately, the fullback and the pitchman, and by Navy's second drive we were already down 14.
Jay saw "serious issues with coaching on the defensive side of the ball." I am sure we can get lot more into Tenuta if he indeed ends up in University Of Fourth Choice (hey they are down to their 4th choice per Wolf's own report).
I know what some of you are thinking as Cheatey Petey himself was Mike Garrett's third or fourth choice when they desperately jumped into each others lap four years ago. However, I think the situation now for whoever comes in is going to be very different. This time a Trojan head coach will probably not have the kind of free reign, Cheatey enjoyed over the years when recruiting (at least according to the reports) was done without any respect to rules or regulations. Plus there is the real possibility of NCAA hammer looming in the horizon. No wonder you see coaches (with great job securities) not showing a lot of interest in this tainted position.
Meanwhile, across town Coach Rick Neuheisel is being methodical, deliberate and chipping away. Per the LA Times, CRN is being "cautious":
Asked how the situation had changed, Neuheisel said, "It remains to be seen. I felt like the landscape was changing anyway, in the reception UCLA was getting in homes. There are those still entrenched with the Trojans and those entrenched with the Bruins and a whole bunch in between."
But Neuheisel conceded that in recruiting, "You have to do a good job of explaining what the future looks like. It’s a little more difficult to predict the future on the other side of town."
Neuheisel said he already thought the Bruins had made some inroads in the fertile Los Angeles-area recruiting fields. A year ago, UCLA landed wide receiver Randall Carroll and tight end Morrell Presley, both of whom had previously committed to USC.
But the Bruins were already feeling better since the news that Carroll might leave broke late last week.
La Canada St. Francis High safety Dietrich Riley, who appeared to be leaning toward USC, popped in at UCLA over the weekend on an official visit. Xavier Grimble, a tight end from Las Vegas Bishop Gorman who has committed to USC, told the Las Vegas Sun he is now "listening" to other schools and has added the Bruins to his list. He is expected to take a recruiting visit to UCLA this weekend.
"There is a lot of confusion out there," Neuheisel said. "A lot of kids thought they had it all figured out and now the world changes. It will take a little while for it to settle down, but I don’t think it will be as drastic as everybody pretends it will be." He added, "There will be a new coach there and he will say a very convincing tale."
Well we expect Neuheisel to tell convincing tales to our guys considering the way he bleeds blue and gold. It sounds like lot of guys are buying into it. UCLA commit - Mater Dei blue chip OL Chris War - gave us a little peak though in terms of the vibe around recruiting circles about being in Westwood:
"I definitely think we're going to put UCLA back on the map, that's for sure," Ward said. "It's all kind of coming into place somehow, just like Coach Neu was telling us earlier. We were getting to know these guys even before the Pete Carroll thing came come up, and right when that happened everyione was like 'Oh, wow, this really is the place to be right now.'"
The place to be. We already knew that Chris. Now bring everyone home.
GO BRUINS.
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simply delicious
Some OL and DL recruits would be outstanding.
by RealisticBruinFan on Jan 12, 2010 6:33 AM PST reply actions
Oh baby....
I certainly don’t mind if this thing drags on for one more month. Sweet times are ahead.
Trojies must get used to crying from now on since they will do alot of that…. Go UCLA/
Time Machine is going back a little starting from 2010.
It is sure a happy new year…
Just when I thought Splashme couldn't out-do his previous pro-USC groveling...
…that windbag outdoes himself. Here’s a couple gems:
Then, yes, bite your lip and call the guy who many think would be a good first choice, that Trojan-disturber up north known as Jim Harbaugh.
He has the swagger. He has the brains. He’s one of the few coaches who could be cool enough to coach here at the coolest place in the country.
I thought he was weak for tacking on that two-point conversion against Carroll this season, but if coated in a little more class that brashness can be a strength.
Did Bill have a lobotomy on November 29th, or do standards apply to everyone except the coach he’s been slobbering over for years?
There will be some talk that coaches will be afraid of the USC job because of the possibility of NCAA sanctions.
That should not lower Garrett’s sights.
Anybody watching Carroll’s remarkable goodbye news conference Monday was reminded that he’s been coaching this team under an NCAA investigation for several years.
Carroll was always arrogant enough to believe they would not be punished. That’s not what drove him away. And even impending sanctions should not keep a top replacement away.
I guess I have to concede his point that PC was probably the most narcissistic personality college football has seen in a while, but I somehow can’t imagine how hiring another primadonna in his place is going to play when the NCAA starts slapping $UC around for real.
Just… wow.
GO BRUINS!!!
Yeah
I saw the headline and decided not to bother. Watching that press conference, we all had a pretty good idea what these clowns were going to write. Shelly Smith was equally horrible reporting it on ESPN.
PS … you should consider fanposting your comment … shredding Splashme … (without linking to his crap).
Loving it
This is a great time to be a Bruin! I love seeing Cheety Peety slink out of town before the cops get him. The spoiled children are in a real fix. They will continue to have defections from their recruits and there doesn’t seem to be too many great coaches out there willing to take a chance on SC’s future. However, at least for now, the trojan rats at the Trojan Times are still on board. Did you notice that during PC press conference yesterday, the reporters did not press him on the possible sanctions SC is facing? Are they really buying the bull “I love a challenge and this is too great a challenge to pass up…”?
Kiffin for the win!!!
As awesome as this story has been day to day, I thought it was going to start to lose steam. Could you imagine having Lane back at $C.?!?! He might have more NCAA violations in his first week than Carrol had in his whole fraudulent career. Oh I hope this happens.
Definitely
The Dream Candidate. Actually Sark would be awesome too and I have a hard time believing he is not interested (perhaps he hasn’t been approached yet).
Lane <<<<<<<<<< Sark
For some reason, I don’t have much of a problem with Sark. He seems like a good enough guy and the fact that he stole Holte away from SC seemed like a big f u to Petey. Sark hasn’t had any allegations so far of cheating either. Whereas Kiffin…..oh my goodness, so excited!!! I thought Carrol leaving was too good to be true, but never in my wildest dreams did I think Lane might end up as CRN’s “competition.”
Nah, Poncho. There was something about Sarkisian right after he got to UW
I don’t know what it was. It was minor, on the order of betting on an office ncaa basketball pool. But there was something.
I like Sark
He’s not a real Trojie anyways. He went to BYU by way of El Camino College. I am biased though because he’s a West High Warrior and his parents live a few blocks away.
Kiffin is such an opportunist
of course he would bolt UT for sc. A shady guy with a big mouth would be a perfect fit.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
Maybe SC could hire someone who goes "by the book" and remembers birthdays...
in an effort to clean up their image
by bornagainbruin on Jan 12, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sanctions
I actually wouldn’t mind if the NCAA dragged out the sanctions proceedings for a long period of time. I think the fear of unknown sanctions coming down the pipe is more effective than what the actual sanctions will be. Telling recruits they should come to UCLA because they don’t know what the NCAA will do to SC comes off better than telling them SC will lose 10 scholarships a year for the next 3 years and then they are right back up and running. Let’s face it, the sanctions (if and when they come) will not be major.
Good point
but the fear of sanctions at SUC has been present since about 2007, and it hasn’t seemed to negatively affect their recruiting up to this point. Also, by waiting too long, there may be a sense that sanctions will never come (as many around here have been feeling).
I think the timing right now couldn’t be more perfect. Trying to find the right fit to fill their coaching vacancy is apparently being hampered by the cloud of looming sanctions. It remains to be seen how it will impact their recruiting class this year.
From everything I have read, I think something will come down later this spring. I think the key penalty for us to look for would be a post season ban.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
Sanctions
I dont think we can dismiss the sanctions as likely not to be major.
In addition to loss of scholarships, would it be wishful thinking/flat out dreaming to hope for loss of wins, loss of a National Championship, and Reggie losing the Heisman?
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Jan 12, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Listening to one of my playlists from long ago before downloading songs was a felony
Two songs in a row reminded me of the end of the Cheatie era.
First, it was Steam with “Kiss her Goodbye” – you know, nah nah naaaah, nah, etc., hey, hey, good bye.
The next song was “Day Tripper.” The first line of that song you all remember. It’s what you heard Cheatie saying as he left the press conference: “Got a good reason, for takin’ the easy way out.”
I had no idea that these two, back to back, songs would be so appropriate now. (And the third song after those two was Sam and Dave singing “Hold On, I’m Comin’.” That applies here somehow, but I’ll leave it to the rest of you to add it in.
WOW Jack Del Rio flopped?
And Lame Kitten back in South Central? It’s been like 5 days of Christmas around here.
Getting Lame back would be a double bonus in that it would make it that much easier to like Tennessee again. I would imagine he would bring Monte with him, though. And, he actually knows what he is doing.
Is anybody ready to start an office pool type game where in we all guess an over/under of the amount of recruits they actually end up keeping. Right now, my guess is 2 and under.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
..for the ignorati..
“Lane Kiffin at Heritage Hall will be a dream come true.”
I know I am missing somehting juicy and iron about this were it to eventuate. Can someone regale me why Kiffin returning to TEH CONDOMS be a dream come true?
..speak slowly and use monosyllabic words.
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
my personal reasons for hoping for a Kiffin return are
in no particular order:
1) not a very good coach
2) associated enough with the Cheatey era that we can revel in beating his protege now that he has fled town
3) cheats like his mentor but manages to get caught (also doesn’t have a daughter of an age to be pimped out to recruits, unlike Cheatey back in the day)
4) given the recent Tennessee kerfuffle, Kiffin is likely to remain a figure scrutinized by the NCAA
5) his habit of saying dumb stuff and having to back down makes for some entertainment in LA / adds some additional fire to the crosstown rivalry; also gives CRN plenty of ammunition and opportunities to look very smart by comparison
6) CRN is 2-0 vs Lane Kiffin as head coach
by britishbruin on Jan 12, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Excellent list
I would just add one:
7) Kiffin’s departure from Tenn. would be a blessing for those nice Volunteer fans.
And...
He has a smoking hot wife that I wouldn’t mind looking at.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 12, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
He could pimp out his wife to recruits
Since he doesn’t have a daughter to do the job
by Gen2Bruin1987 on Jan 12, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
CRN's only 1-0 vs. Kiffin
Fulmer was the coach of UT in 2008.
oops, my mistake
please mentally adjust to CRN is 1-0 vs Kiffin on Kiffin’s home turf
by britishbruin on Jan 12, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
There is still a little discussion about Leach
I want them to hire someone other than Leach. I don’t care how long it takes to hire someone other than Leach, but I dont’ want them hiring Leach.
Leach...
…is radioactive with his pending/impending lawsuit against Texas Tech.
UCLA - Champions Made Here
The place to be...
Frank Costanza’s pool room? Maestro?
Seriously, Lame may want this job. After all, they obviously don’t “own” the police in Knoxville.
by Give me a B... on Jan 12, 2010 10:12 AM PST reply actions
Steve Mariucci is apparently a candidate...
I posted on the wrong thread that I just heard an ESPN analyst say Mariucci has been seen @ USC this week, and they are speculating he’d like to coach football again in CA (after coaching Cal and 49ers in the past)
I heard this just now.
And hope it doesn’t come true. I like Mariucci too much. I would hate to see him do that to himself.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
I hear
that the of coach of Central Northwest Idaho Technical Institute of Technology is looking to move up!
Del Rio link from tWWL
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4819513
also includes the Mariucci comment
Peter King
http://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/7677105513
It’s official: Jack Del Rio staying in Jacksonville.
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 12, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Why
Del Rio may have an trojan education but he sure can spell s-a-n-c-t-i-o-n-s.
by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 12:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Interesting that anyone that's been associated with SC
is so quick to turn down the job. Not only can they spell “sanctions” but they also intimately understand why.
by bornagainbruin on Jan 12, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
As I said, don't celebrate all these rejections
Other than Fisher, none of their candidates so far would scare a kitten. If they keep getting rejected by the kind of guys they want they might actually back in to a dangerous college coach.
agreed
del rio didn’t scare me at all. he’s too obstinate, the antithesis of pete carroll. mooch actually somewhat scares me.
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
I think we can celebrate the fact
that there are rejections in the 1st place, that the SC job isn’t in high demand that delusional SC followers would claim it to be, that the spector of pending sanctions actually have some legs, and most importantly, the longer this goes the higher the likleyhood we get some of their recruits.
"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09
People really understimate
what a shitty area that campus is in. And add the LA traffic on top of that, it’s really not that desirable.
The only reason the Humanitarian did his “Angels” project was so that it would help with recruiting, and so he wouldn’t get mugged walking to the mausoleum.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4820737
LANE KIFFIN! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Where’s that clock?)

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