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Trojans Get Rejected By Their 4th Choice, Now Pining For Mariucci & Still Eying Lane & Sark

Well things are getting worse for the Trojans. Looks like (and many of you have linked this up in comment threads already) they just got rejected by their fourth choice:

Jack Del Rio will remain coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, a decision made after Del Rio and team owner Wayne Weaver met Tuesday to discuss the coach's future with the franchise, the Florida Times-Union is reporting.

Ouch. Del Rio was their top choice. So who is the Trojan's next desperate target? It apparently happens to be Steve Mariucci:

With Del Rio out of USC's picture, former San Francisco 49ers and Detroit Lions coach Steve Mariucci and USC have been in contact in recent days, two sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Mariucci works as an analyst at NFL Network, but he has expressed an interest in returning to coaching with the right opportunity.

I wonder how much of it is serious speculation and how much of it is just desperate Trojan sources throwing out names who will stick. Mariucci's name has come up before here on BN (during the Dorrell years and our prior coaching search). For a refresher here was the list of frontpagers' favorite coaching candidates during December of 2007. Don't want to rehash how our process worked out. However, it certainly wasn't the embarrassing spectacle that is unfolding across town. As for Mariucci I think we have mixed feelings about him here on BN.

As a Niner fan I always kind of liked him because I thought he brought a sense of calm during those tumultous transition years following George Seifert, and made the best out of what the Niners had with less than mediocre QBs such as Jeff Garcia. Yet, I know probably many Niner fans probably has reservations about his ability as a head coach and his stint in Detroit was kind of a failure. More on him after the jump.

Star-divide

As for how Mariucci performed during his only season at Cal, thought the following take from California Pete at CGB is kind of interesting:

Mariucci was a joke. His team got progressively worse as the season wore on—even when it was still winning games—and the egg they laid in the Aloha Bowl was epic. Please don’t suggest he "turned around" the Cal program in any way that even begins to resemble the job Tedford has done.

In his only season at Cal, Mariucci started the season with a record of 5-0 but then crashed and burned to a record of 6-6, which BTW included a loss to UCLA in Berkeley. If people think Neuheisel left the Colorado and Washington programs in bad shape, the picture with Tom Holmoe after he bolted for the Niners wasn't pretty. It didn't appear that left a strong recruiting foundation in Berkeley (then again one year is not enough). Perhaps the Trojans think Mooch's media charm will do the trick for them just like it worked out with Petey. However, note the circumstances he or whoever the next guy is would be taking over will be very different than the situation Cheatey waltzed into eight years ago.

Anyway, who knows whether Mariucci talks are serious but Wolf is still eying Sark and Kiffin (along with Herm Edwards). I am rooting for Lane.

GO BRUINS.

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all hat no cattle

Mooch would be perfect for suc. Says the right thing but can’t back it up. With the niners he didn’t have the star power of the years before, but he had some great players and foundation of winning. The year at Cal and his stint as the Lions HC are more indicative of the kind of coach he was.
Any coach that would look at the suc job has to think about a long tenure, they are going to go through some hard times for the next three or maybe for years. Losing bowl and TV time plus scholarships will quickly hurt then in recruitng.
You have to bet that every coach to interview has had a good look at the NCAA sanctions notice. The next sc hc is going to be a desperate man (Tom Cable is next in line)

Go Bruins
TRM

by G0Bruins on Jan 12, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Finally, there'd be a Trojan who I couldn't flat-out hate.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Jan 12, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Still below the two of them

I still feel he got a bum deal at ND.

Oh, and Nestor, Mexi and all other 49er fans here, I just found two games where I will be rooting for them next year. Plus, I might be living in the Bay Area (not pinning my hopes on it though, Tucson is probably more likely).

by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 12, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

And good luck on Mr. BB’s placement; the Bay Area would be a nice spot to spend a year or two.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jan 12, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't mind it at all

He is going to interview next week at the Palo Alto VA. It’s a pretty coveted internship. Arizona is more likely because they have more positions, but it’s still a respectable program. We shall see.

by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 12, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Niners!

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jan 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And the funny thing is that I can't root for anyone else in the NFC West

Arizona, not as long as Pretty Boy Leinart is there (especially with rumors going around that Warner is going to retire after this year). The Rams, they broke my old man’s heart and he vowed never to root for them again, why should I? So that leaves the 49ers. Sure, there was this tiny thing called The Catch, but these things can be overlooked when you root more for your alma mater than you do for some NFL team.

by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah PA VA

not a bad location by Foothill Expway and Arastradero

by maccabita4life on Jan 12, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, the Bay area has...

… the largest presence of Bruins outside of the LA area. The BAB (Bay Area Bruins) chapter is fairly large here.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Jan 12, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey how did you do that?

This is the actual picture.

Pretty scary what photoshop can do…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone up for the challenge

of doing a Dorrell photo? ;-)

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Jan 12, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

*cringes*

Dorrell is still a Bruin. I know he wasn’t the greatest coach for us (I know, understatement), but I’d love for him to rehab his image as an HC somewhere (hopefuly the NFL).

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Jan 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

Dorrell is way too good of a man for U$C.

Steve Lavin would be the perfect fit there. He can recruit.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say, Lavin's not a football coach.

But his time at UCLA proved he wasn’t a basketball one either, so I guess that would work.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Jan 12, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He wouldn't pull something like Cheaty's poodle

He would know better than to sell his soul to the devil.

by bruinbabe2000 on Jan 12, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Dorrell deserves something of a break

I am an unrelenting critic of Coach Dorrell—he failed as a recruiter and the bottom line—he lost too many games. And I think I was the first woman on this site to suggest him for the trojan vacancy. But it is clear he built character (he healed the program to use DG’s words) and 13-9 to say nothing of the Jones-Drew team. However, he never should have been our coach. But you are right hopefully he will learn and when his team (who does he coach for?)plays Seattle—here’s to Karl will tearing their throats out. Go Karl (not just here)!

by peggysue69 on Jan 12, 2010 3:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This isn't the time to bash Coach Toledo's Successor

but I disagree with your take on his nobility. Let’s discuss it after the wreckage of troy is completely picked over.

by Fox 71 on Jan 12, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me

Picked it up from a ND messageboard (linked it in our fanshot section).

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

who are the four that turned down sc? i count riley and del rio.

by NotMaltBaa on Jan 12, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Wolf just reported that they're just now contacting Peterson

They had not contacted him yet, apparently. This is exactly what I mean by backing into a homerun hire.

by bluebland on Jan 12, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Wolf is just throwing up stuff (Chow thing is not working any more apparently).

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

Looks like the Peterson reference is not in Wolf’s original piece any more. Might have to start taking screenshots whenever I am referencing his reports.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Add

None of the candidate worry me at this point. First, as I have mentioned many times, the circumstances the next coach will be taking over is very different (given the signs we are seeing from NCAA). Second, I honestly don’t care much for another head coach from BSU at this point given the results we have seen from Koetter and Hawkins.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Heard

Jim Zorn is the leading candidate at this point, after mooch and peterson turned em down

by NotMaltBaa on Jan 12, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Petersen deserves to be honored apart from those two

For one thing, he was the OC when Hawkins was there, so you can pretty much give him all the credit for then, too. Second, the Petersen BSU team is visibly well-coached, and the offense is beautiful and precise (not just wide open). Sometimes you can just tell.

by bluebland on Jan 12, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't buy it

Sorry bb. Not going to jump on that BSU bandwagon. Once Peterson leaves and the next Boise St. HC thrives, we are going to hear about how it was that Coach X who was behind the master plan. Also, at BSU this year it was Josh Wilcox (their DC) who was the real coaching start behind their current season.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I guess we'll see if he ever takes another job

But…BSU never looked as good under Koetter/Hawkins as they have under Petersen, nor did they score any major national wins that I can think of.

by bluebland on Jan 12, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

BSU was building its profile under Koetter/Hawkins

which increased their visibility over the years which had a big influence in building up their program to the state its now.

Hawkins was as hot of a coaching commodity as Peterson is right now and Colorado paid pretty good money to get him.

by Nestor on Jan 12, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Maaaaaaan.

That link to 2007 when we were in our coaching search just gave me the chills.

Being a diehard Ravens fan and seeing the success he’s had thus far, part of me admittedly wonders what it would’ve been like if we had John Harbaugh, especially given how far along the process he went. Al Golden though? Haha yiiiiiikes …

Is it just me, or didn’t Brian Kelly get some serious consideration, even meeting with the Chancellor?

At any rate, especially in the past couple days, I couldn’t be happier than I am right now with our decision to go with CRN. Next year will obviously be the most telling thus far, but happy nevertheless.

by deepdish on Jan 12, 2010 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

John Harbaugh

definitely seems to be a good coach, but I seriously doubt he would have been as successful as CRN.

For one, he wouldn’t have been able to bring in Coach Chow and keep DeWayne Walker (not because of how good a coach he is but because it helped keep recruits).

He wouldn’t have done as well on the recruiting front, no way.

And, he wouldn’t know how important it is to beat U$C.

I think we have the right guy and got him at the right time.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

As I’ve said, over and over, he was not my first choice but he was the RIGHT choice for all the reasons you give.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 12, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I want SCs recruits

every day, every hour, every minute that the SUCsters are coachless brings us closer to reaching that goal.

"I don't forget very much" Rick Neuheisel, 11/28/09

by Blue Me on Jan 12, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

I don't want all of them

only the ones who can read and don’t have a penchant for criminal behavior.

That leaves about 4 or 5 of them I think.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 12, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Still need the right fit for UCLA.

by Bruin'96 on Jan 12, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

what about Sarkasian

Was he ever talked to or did he say no right away before ever being approached?

by WoodenMania on Jan 12, 2010 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

nevermind

wasnt thinking who Sark was

by WoodenMania on Jan 12, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If things play out the way I think they will...

It’s gonna be hard to watch Conan wear the Ketchup and Mustard but this might be the best option for both parties at this point.

by littlebrother on Jan 12, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

Kiffen is my choice.

With his background, he fits right in and would be so easy dislike and poke fun at.

by LongtimeBru on Jan 12, 2010 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Why would Kiffin, Sark or Mora want to coach at SC?

Kiffin just got the Tennessee job. That’s a high profile team.

Sark just got the Washington job. That’s a high profile team.

Mora just got fired and has no college ties to recruiting. Why would he want the SC job if he can get 400K for doing TV?

Why would any coach want this job with probation and a mass exodus of players coming?

SC needs a coach with a tarnished image who is out of coaching and looking for a way back in.

Like Terry Bowden

by alcor805 on Jan 12, 2010 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

"Why would any coach want this job with probation and a mass exodus of players coming?"

The million dollar question or should I say the multi-million dollar question.
It is beyond me why anyone would want it unless they could hold out through the sanctions and then start with a gutted program. Has to be someone that is looking for a head coaching job or like you say is on the outside and wanting to get back in.

by LongtimeBru on Jan 12, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously

why would anyone be dumb enough to take over a program perilously close to a death sentence.

by sponkey21 on Jan 12, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim Mora's Pac 10 background

He’s a UDub alum, so he does know the Pac 10. That being said, he’d be a giant fool to take the job.

by maccabita4life on Jan 12, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wolf now going ALL-CAPS on Sark

Please, please, please…but I think Wolf’s sources are OU cheerleaders.

by bluebland on Jan 12, 2010 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

Dudes...

Is Kiffin coming?

Troy HAS fallen...again, again, and again.

by Bruins102NCAA on Jan 12, 2010 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

It's Kiffin!

ESPN reporting he has taken the job. I love it. Will be bringing his own NCAA violations with him.

by trbruin on Jan 12, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

is this good or not?

i know kiffin hasnt really won anything as a coach, but isnt he a pretty good recruiter? although he cant be as good as carroll, and we have a great one as well

by dhuang90 on Jan 12, 2010 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

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